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<strong>Entrepreneur</strong> <strong>roundtable</strong><br />

<strong>Services</strong> <strong>with</strong> a <strong>smile</strong><br />

The founders of four businesses discuss the factors behind their success<br />

in creating innovative services, in a discussion moderated by Tyler Brûlé,<br />

Editor-in-Chief of Monocle.<br />

No two businesses are the same, but there is much that can be<br />

learned from the similarities between successful businesses. In<br />

a <strong>roundtable</strong> discussion at Monocle’s head office in London at<br />

the end of October, four entrepreneurs discussed what made<br />

them tick and the factors that were behind the success of the<br />

businesses they had created.<br />

Moderator Tyler Brûlé, himself a noted entrepreneur, began<br />

the discussion by asking the participants what the drivers<br />

were in the success of their businesses. Theo Kyriakou, a Greek<br />

media entrepreneur, answered <strong>with</strong> one word: passion. “I only<br />

invest in things I enjoy, in projects where I can feel and see the<br />

endgame.”<br />

He immediately added that a second driver of his business<br />

was talent—the team of managers he had chosen who shared<br />

his values. This struck a chord <strong>with</strong> James Daunt, the former<br />

investment banker who built up a much admired chain of<br />

bookshops and now runs Waterstone’s, the UK’s largest<br />

bookshop business. Asked by Tyler Brûlé how the staff in his<br />

stores were always able to make great book recommendations,<br />

he said it was all about investing in people. “We try to<br />

motivate, develop and reward people so that they have longterm<br />

careers in what is largely a minimum wage sector.”<br />

Kit Kemp, who co-founded a chain of seven boutique hotels<br />

<strong>with</strong> her husband Tim, said she was driven by the challenge<br />

of finding the right building or site, and then turning it into a<br />

welcoming place for customers. “It’s all about comfort at the<br />

end of the day: when you go into a hotel bedroom, you must<br />

feel that the chair is beckoning you, that the bed is the most<br />

comfortable one, and that you want to wrap yourself in the<br />

towels. There must also be a sense of arrival—we all feel mass<br />

produced these days, but I hate the idea of hotel brands and<br />

want customers to be treated as individuals.”<br />

Such attention to the individual needs of customers was<br />

also central for the fourth panel member, Avid Larizadeh,<br />

the co-founder of Bottica, an online marketplace selling high<br />

quality jewellery from inspiring places. The products sold on<br />

her website come from some 200 designers in 40 countries,<br />

and the relationships forged <strong>with</strong> those designers are what<br />

produced the unique pieces sought by her customers. “We<br />

have one-on-one relationships <strong>with</strong> our designers, and we have<br />

created a storefront which fits <strong>with</strong> their brands. When we talk<br />

about the business, we talk about them.”<br />

A common element in the four businesses, Tyler Brûlé noted,<br />

was that they acted as editors or curators—selecting the right<br />

<strong>Entrepreneur</strong> <strong>roundtable</strong>: <strong>Services</strong> <strong>with</strong> a <strong>smile</strong> | Winter 2012


choices for individual customers in<br />

marketplaces <strong>with</strong> a multiplicity<br />

of products. James Daunt said this<br />

curating role was central to his bookselling<br />

business: “Some bookshops<br />

sold the best display places to the<br />

publishers, so the selection process<br />

effectively disappeared. In my own<br />

shops, I aimed to restore the art of<br />

curation—to draw people into the<br />

shops and thus to sell more books.”<br />

Avid Larizadeh said that her business<br />

was also highly curated. “There are<br />

objective criteria based on quality<br />

and certain standards, and subjective<br />

criteria such as the need to have an<br />

inspiring story behind a piece. But<br />

it’s not just my taste: we have a team<br />

of style-hunters who travel the world<br />

and some of them will select pieces<br />

that would not have been my choice.”<br />

Had social media changed the<br />

programmes produced by Theo<br />

Kyriakou’s Antenna media group,<br />

asked Tyler Brûlé? “Is it down to who<br />

is making the programmes, or is it<br />

the pull of the crowd through online<br />

messages and tweeting?”<br />

Social media were an unstoppable<br />

power, Mr Kyriakou said, and his<br />

group had invested in both Facebook<br />

and Twitter. “But the media business<br />

is still nothing more than content<br />

distribution—the best content <strong>with</strong><br />

the best brands through the best<br />

distribution network to reach the<br />

viewers. Our editors are always<br />

customer-oriented, of course: people<br />

change their habits and their media<br />

consumption, and you have to be there<br />

before the competitors.”<br />

Bottica also evolved its business<br />

model, said Avid Larizadeh, to reflect<br />

developments in online browsing<br />

behaviour. But it would not turn into<br />

what Tyler Brûlé described as “a grand<br />

souk” in London or Paris: “It wouldn’t<br />

make sense. Our business model is<br />

based on holding no inventory and<br />

we couldn’t be global if we did that.<br />

The whole point is that you can get<br />

something from the other end of the<br />

world <strong>with</strong>out going there.”<br />

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For James Daunt, the changing nature<br />

of the global marketplace in books<br />

posed an awkward problem. “You<br />

can get exactly the same product I’m<br />

selling from Amazon and prices are<br />

always driven down to the lowest<br />

common denominator. We don’t own<br />

the content, and Amazon is now trying<br />

to publish its own books to own the<br />

content. It will be interesting to see<br />

whether book retailers seek to follow<br />

suit—if they do, it will be back to the<br />

future: Victorian booksellers were also<br />

publishers.”<br />

When it came to questions from the<br />

audience, the entrepreneurs were<br />

asked what they would define as great<br />

service. Kit Kemp’s answer was that<br />

it is all about people wanting to come<br />

back. “When people travel, they are<br />

often tired and people take 24 hours to<br />

get to know the hotel. It’s a matter of<br />

taking something they are not used to<br />

and turning it around so they enjoy it<br />

and become a friend who believes in<br />

the place.”<br />

Tyler Brûlé asked her about the<br />

honesty bars in Firmdale hotels— fully<br />

stocked bars in a public space <strong>with</strong> a<br />

<strong>Entrepreneur</strong> <strong>roundtable</strong>: <strong>Services</strong> <strong>with</strong> a <strong>smile</strong> | Winter 2012<br />

notebook for people to record what<br />

they had taken. “The reasoning,” Kit<br />

Kemp said, “was that if you’ve been<br />

to the theatre or are going somewhere<br />

and you want a drink, you can serve<br />

yourself, as if you were entertaining<br />

at home. Some people make a great<br />

show of signing the book, but you’re<br />

also going to find those who have half<br />

a bottle of vodka in their pocket—and<br />

I think that’s quite funny!”<br />

“The media business is still nothing<br />

more than content distribution—the<br />

best content <strong>with</strong> the best brands<br />

through the best distribution network<br />

to reach the viewers.”<br />

Theo Kyriakou, CEO of Antenna<br />

“If you’ve got all those, everything else<br />

can still go wrong and you’re OK.”<br />

Theo Kyriakou said that in free-toair<br />

television, his clients were the<br />

advertisers. “We must attract the<br />

audience, the eyeballs, and deliver the<br />

demographics advertisers need at the<br />

right time. As television becomes more<br />

competitive <strong>with</strong> more stations, you<br />

need to be closer to the client and to<br />

deliver every single day.”


For Avid Larizadeh, good service<br />

was something that made customers<br />

recommend the business to friends<br />

or colleagues. “It’s the emotional<br />

connection you create <strong>with</strong> customers<br />

by talking to them or delighting<br />

them <strong>with</strong> their user experience. It<br />

is easy to find any kind of goods or<br />

services today, and customers will not<br />

remember you unless you create that<br />

connection.”<br />

That word of mouth was also the best<br />

marketing tool, Avid Larizadeh said<br />

when asked about the most effective<br />

form of marketing. “But when you<br />

want to expand, you have to work out<br />

which channels work best for you—<br />

for us, direct mailing our customer<br />

base or search engine optimisation.<br />

We do very little offline marketing:<br />

advertising in some magazines will<br />

sell depending on position and<br />

accompanying editorial, but 90 per<br />

cent of our marketing is online.”<br />

James Daunt agreed on the importance<br />

of word of mouth, in his case helped<br />

by friendly columnists and other<br />

media writers plugging the chain he<br />

founded. A member of the audience<br />

said she thought his best marketing<br />

tool was the iconic linen Daunt bag<br />

produced by fair trade methods in<br />

India—“the greatest thing you did.”<br />

The best marketing tool for Kit Kemp<br />

was what people wrote about her<br />

hotels in the press. “Also having the<br />

best website so everyone can see the<br />

rooms and everything that’s going on.<br />

Advertising doesn’t add up to a row of<br />

beans.”<br />

The problem for Theo Kyriakou was<br />

that the launch of a new television<br />

station could not be advertised<br />

on competitors’ channels. “So it’s<br />

newspapers, magazines, radio and a<br />

lot of outdoor advertising.”<br />

The entrepreneurs admitted there had<br />

been times when they had had fears over<br />

the future of their businesses. But there<br />

was an interesting divergence of opinion<br />

when asked whether they planned to<br />

hand them on to the next generation or<br />

sell them to professional managers.<br />

The youthful Avid Larazadeh’s answer<br />

was shortest: “I have no idea—I<br />

haven’t even thought about it yet!”<br />

“It’s the emotional connection you<br />

create <strong>with</strong> customers by talking to<br />

them or delighting them <strong>with</strong> their<br />

user experience.”<br />

Avid Larizadeh, CEO of Bottica<br />

The equally youthful Theo Kyriakou,<br />

however, had given it some thought.<br />

“Some entrepreneurs see their<br />

businesses as an extension of their<br />

lives and want to have it extended<br />

to the next generation. Like my<br />

ancestors such as Alexander the Great<br />

who put up statues of themselves and<br />

named cities after them to perpetuate<br />

their names. It’s a great way to<br />

overcome the idea of death, but in my<br />

humble view, businesses are different<br />

from life. What you pass to your kids<br />

is your values and a good education.<br />

Businesses should be run by those<br />

who can manage them best, whether<br />

it’s management or shareholders.”<br />

James Daunt, in his late forties and<br />

admitting to a few grey hairs, saw<br />

a European divide on the issue. “I<br />

come from a traditional Anglo-Saxon<br />

world where friends of my age are<br />

all busy selling their businesses—<br />

succession involves handing on<br />

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the cash. But <strong>with</strong> continental European colleagues,<br />

they want to pass on the business. I was recently<br />

introduced by an Italian to the next managing director<br />

who happened to be six—I admire that approach<br />

enormously and a huge strength comes from that.”<br />

But the contrarian view came from Kit Kemp, whose<br />

daughter was in the audience. “I don’t want to sell<br />

anything, because all you do is hand it to the taxman.<br />

I want to pass it on, and I want to pass on a business<br />

which I haven’t taken anything out of and which is<br />

bigger than what we started <strong>with</strong>. I want our tiny<br />

squidgy empire to go on for several generations and<br />

hopefully get bigger still.”<br />

To which Tyler Brûlé said “Bravo”.<br />

The following entrepreneurs participated<br />

in the discussion:<br />

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Tyler Brûlé has launched two<br />

groundbreaking print titles in<br />

Wallpaper* and Monocle, and is<br />

currently Editor-in-Chief of the<br />

latter. Brûlé is also the founder<br />

and chairman of the design agency<br />

Winkreative.<br />

James Daunt opened his first shop<br />

in 1990 at the age of 26. Since<br />

then, his small, independent chain<br />

has built a loyal following. Mr. Daunt<br />

is now boss of the UK's largest and<br />

only surviving national book chain,<br />

Waterstone's (300 shops).<br />

Avid Larizadeh is co-founder of<br />

Boticca, an online marketplace that<br />

connects the world’s most talented,<br />

independent fashion accessories<br />

designers directly <strong>with</strong> customers<br />

seeking exquisite, unique pieces<br />

from inspiring places.<br />

Kit Kemp is the co-founder of<br />

Firmdale Hotel Group, which she<br />

started in 1986 <strong>with</strong> her husband.<br />

It now comprises a collection of<br />

seven stylish boutique hotels, six in<br />

London and one in New York."<br />

Theodore Kyriakou is a ship-owner<br />

and a principal shareholder as well<br />

as Group Chief Executive Officer<br />

of the Antenna Group. The Antenna<br />

Group is a privately owned media<br />

and entertainment group.<br />

<strong>Entrepreneur</strong> <strong>roundtable</strong>: <strong>Services</strong> <strong>with</strong> a <strong>smile</strong> | Winter 2012<br />

PICTeT & CIe<br />

This is the latest in a series of <strong>roundtable</strong>s in which <strong>Pictet</strong><br />

& Cie brings together a group of entrepreneurs to discuss<br />

matters concerning them directly. The objective is to create a<br />

community of interests in which some of the leading players<br />

in the business world share their experience, producing<br />

added value for all participants. These entrepreneur<br />

<strong>roundtable</strong>s are thus held at regular intervals on a different<br />

specific topic each time.<br />

<strong>Entrepreneur</strong>ship lies at the heart of <strong>Pictet</strong>’s values. The<br />

bank, organised as a limited partnership, is owned and<br />

managed by eight Partners who share joint and unlimited<br />

liability for its commitments. The Partners thus act as<br />

managers, shareholders and the board of directors. With this<br />

entrepreneurial spirit forming the basis for its growth, <strong>Pictet</strong><br />

& Cie currently has almost 3,000 employees, 22 offices, and<br />

assets under management and custody of CHF 364 billion<br />

(end- September 2011). It is also ranked among the largest<br />

independent asset management institutions in Europe.

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