BPM October 2010.indd - Benefits and Pensions Monitor
BPM October 2010.indd - Benefits and Pensions Monitor
BPM October 2010.indd - Benefits and Pensions Monitor
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LODER: I have always found it somewhat perplexing that the<br />
guidelines refer specifi cally to plans that offer investment choice<br />
only. Is the question of offering choice not one that has been considered<br />
in common law <strong>and</strong> in the arguments for fi duciary prudence?<br />
NEWTON: Yes.<br />
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JOHANNSON: And it’s misleading, as it assumes that the courts<br />
will not hold you to the same st<strong>and</strong>ard if you only have one choice.<br />
There are no precedents to guide us. The courts may well hold<br />
plans with one choice to higher st<strong>and</strong>ards in terms of investment<br />
selection <strong>and</strong> monitoring. The assumption has been that the guidelines<br />
do not apply so st<strong>and</strong>ards would be lower. There is no evidence<br />
of this <strong>and</strong> so this exclusion could be misleading.<br />
LODER: I have always thought it unfortunate that the guidelines<br />
appeared to provide an exemption for plans that offered no investment<br />
choice.<br />
NEWTON: There was a lot of back <strong>and</strong> forth on that issue on the<br />
CAP committee. At the fi rst stage, that qualifi cation wasn’t there.<br />
And then there was a lot of backlash from some employers who had<br />
CAP plans that were invested exclusively in employer stock. They<br />
said, ‘we shouldn’t have to comply with the CAP guidelines, we’re<br />
just offering one plan. We don’t really have to educate employees, so<br />
really the bulk of the CAP guidelines wouldn’t apply to us, therefore<br />
we should be exempt.’<br />
There are employers, as we all know, in all parts of the spectrum;<br />
some with no choice, some with some choices, a dozen or<br />
so choices, <strong>and</strong> some who just put you in a plan with hundreds<br />
of choices.<br />
BEESLEY: Then why are plan sponsors so concerned?<br />
NEWTON: Well, it will just take that one large action, whether<br />
it’s around fees, improper education, or improper promises. There<br />
are a couple of dozen class actions that have happened in the recent<br />
past in the States <strong>and</strong> there’s no reason why those types of actions<br />
could not take place here.<br />
SINNAEVE: I agree. And to further Mark’s point, without bet-<br />
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ter clarifi cation <strong>and</strong> substance to the guidelines, plan sponsors in<br />
Canada may be pleased that they are not held to these st<strong>and</strong>ards in<br />
law, but they also have neither safe harbour nor comfort that the<br />
st<strong>and</strong>ards they are following will be suffi cient.<br />
MODERATOR: Concerning designing your CAP program,<br />
how important are the demographics of an<br />
organization in delivering an effective program?<br />
JOHANNSON: You have to know the demographics of your<br />
population. Are they across the age spectrum or do you have a<br />
heavy concentration in the boomer segment, requiring more preretirement<br />
transition support versus having a younger population<br />
that is more challenging to engage in a retirement discussion? They<br />
are in different places in their lives with very different immediate<br />
concerns.<br />
NEWTON: One way to help engage employees with a pension<br />
or savings plan is not to have a st<strong>and</strong> alone plan, but to combine<br />
it, in some way, with other services such as banking <strong>and</strong><br />
mortgages, bringing in providers with different services to act<br />
together to get employees to think about retirement savings on an<br />
ongoing basis.<br />
They’ll see that by providing different services, the employer will<br />
better engage employees <strong>and</strong> likely trigger action for retirement<br />
savings. Employees will say ‘oh, yeah, the pension plan, the savings<br />
plan. I use the same provider for my mortgage, maybe these<br />
parts of my fi nancial life should work together.’<br />
All these services help employees to think about their fi nances.<br />
JOHANNSON: And it speaks to where they are in their life<br />
stage, <strong>and</strong> how should they manage their money at each stage to<br />
meet their overall needs. It has always been diffi cult to engage<br />
the younger employee who is more concerned with fi nancing<br />
today’s needs rather than those when they retire in 30 years. If<br />
we can speak in relevant terms to their current life stage <strong>and</strong><br />
provide services that are more tailored to this stage, then we<br />
can capture their attention <strong>and</strong> help them with today’s needs as<br />
well as start contributing sooner to their retirement. Additionally,<br />
we can then speak more holistically to the needs of the<br />
older employee <strong>and</strong> how they should h<strong>and</strong>le their dollars as they<br />
approach retirement.<br />
NEWTON: Exactly, it might help them decide whether to put<br />
more into their mortgage at times <strong>and</strong>, at other times, more into<br />
their pension plan.<br />
JOHANNSON: True, or how can I use my RRSP funds to acquire<br />
a home but still work towards my long-term retirement goals? For<br />
older members, it may be more about debt consolidation <strong>and</strong> better<br />
debt pay down strategies to free up money for retirement investment<br />
<strong>and</strong> post-retirement lifestyle.<br />
NEWTON: But, if the employer has some subsidized product<br />
offering on the mortgage side, on the banking side, pension <strong>and</strong><br />
savings, <strong>and</strong> they all work together, it really helps with communication<br />
<strong>and</strong> engagement.<br />
SINNAEVE: That would certainly be attractive to plan members<br />
<strong>and</strong> encourage them to take charge of their overall fi nancial situation<br />
to better secure their personal retirement promise.<br />
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