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Oral History of Robert Everett - Computer History Museum

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<strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> <strong>of</strong> <strong>Robert</strong> <strong>Everett</strong><br />

and since the nuclear weapon can take out the hard ones, there was no point in spending money on the<br />

hard ones. That was a decision I was not privy to. But things like that went on.<br />

Hendrie: Yes. I remember reading something about a much smaller version <strong>of</strong> the SAGE computer, a<br />

transistorized version. Was that ever done? Did that replace the tube versions in operation? Could you<br />

talk a little bit about that? What you know about that.<br />

<strong>Everett</strong>: No. There was a proposal to put in a so-called “Super-SAGE,” which was a transistorized<br />

machine, which originally was intended to be underground. And it was made out <strong>of</strong> transistors, not the<br />

kind we have today but individual transistors. And a decision was made not to go ahead with that<br />

program. Now there was also the BUIC System, which was not made by IBM. It was made by, I think,<br />

Burroughs, which did the tracking and so on at the radar site. And the idea was that then there were more<br />

<strong>of</strong> them.<br />

Hendrie: And so a little bit less vulnerable?<br />

<strong>Everett</strong>: BUIC stood for "Backup Interceptors something". So that was the idea. It's funny, the first BUIC<br />

machine came to MITRE and was set up and turned on. And they found out – it was very interesting – that<br />

when it started running it used up all the computer time available without any airplanes or interceptors. It<br />

was all overhead . It was much faster than the SAGE system, so here was this computer with<br />

five times the capacity or something and only supposedly ten percent <strong>of</strong> the airplanes that…it didn't have<br />

any capacity at all . Partly it was written in a higher level language. SAGE was written in<br />

machine language.<br />

Hendrie: That was a question I had. Could we pause for just a second, and I'll get that question?<br />

I had a question about what kind <strong>of</strong> s<strong>of</strong>tware was available. Maybe going back to the Whirlwind,<br />

were there any assemblers, or any math libraries? The development <strong>of</strong> standardized or reusable s<strong>of</strong>tware<br />

that would help people write their programs? And then maybe you could continue the comments into the<br />

SAGE system.<br />

<strong>Everett</strong>: Well, I can't recall all the details, but there were growing amounts <strong>of</strong> these things. At first, people<br />

just sat down and wrote it. And then if one person could do a thousand instruction program, and keep it in<br />

his head and get it right. But when you get twenty people for a fifty-thousand instruction program, that<br />

won't work. So there were all kinds <strong>of</strong> things that were invented, and there were certainly standard subroutines<br />

for various functions, that you could use. And there were assemblers, I guess you would call<br />

them. The original SAGE program was written with, not instructions or something, but with the names <strong>of</strong><br />

the things you wanted. If you wanted some interceptor base, you could put it in the interceptor base. And<br />

then the assembler line, the support line would just…programs would put them in the right places, and<br />

things like that. So, it was called a Compool, which contained all that information. And people could go <strong>of</strong>f<br />

and write it, independent <strong>of</strong> where it'll end up, could write it. And then this thing came in, and they put it all<br />

together and made sure it was all right. But it was not in a higher level language.<br />

CHM Ref: X3877.2007 © 2007 <strong>Computer</strong> <strong>History</strong> <strong>Museum</strong> Page 41 <strong>of</strong> 56

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