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love. It’s a language through which you can<br />

say and explore anything. Some of the dance<br />

styles in India are related to festivals, particular<br />

religious ceremonies and different parts of the<br />

religious calendar, and it’s sometimes difficult<br />

to move away from that. That said, it’s<br />

becoming more progressive, and people like<br />

ourselves are working with organisations there<br />

to produce more hybrid-based choreographic<br />

workshops and masterclasses. I was born<br />

here, I trained here, and so my understanding<br />

of body alignment is subconsciously informed<br />

by other dance forms that I’m watching and<br />

absorbing here in the UK. This means that my<br />

cultural landscape and my dance landscape is<br />

very different, because I’m accessing<br />

contemporary, African and flamenco dance. In<br />

India, all you see is Indian dance. The<br />

reference points are therefore very different<br />

over there.<br />

Do you adapt your performances when in<br />

India?<br />

No, I don’t change. I would just choose things<br />

deliberately not from the repertoire - for<br />

example, a political piece that has nothing to<br />

do with India. I’d also concentrate on Kathak’s<br />

more Islamic influences, which don’t get<br />

celebrated enough.<br />

Would you ever choose Indian subject<br />

matter and use it as a reference point?<br />

I have done, certainly. It always seems new to<br />

them, because my way of moving and the<br />

shapes that I devise are very different to those<br />

of a Kathak dancer who lives in India.<br />

What’s your starting-point when devising a<br />

new piece?<br />

I would say that music is a very big stimulus. It<br />

can be anything; rock, jazz, Purcell - anything.<br />

I could also be influenced by something I’ve<br />

heard on the news, or by a walk in the park.<br />

Inspiration can come from anywhere.<br />

What inspires you to take something to the<br />

next stage?<br />

When I start to get goose pimples with a<br />

particular piece of music, or when something<br />

evokes a particularly strong image in my mind.<br />

It’s a very strong internal feeling that I get.<br />

That’s when I begin to play in the studio. Then,<br />

through listening and moving, things begin to<br />

happen. Over time, when you begin to<br />

improvise and play, you create phases and<br />

dance segments. That’s when the music no<br />

longer plays a major part in the delivery,<br />

because you’ve found something else to hang<br />

on to. The music eventually will stop being<br />

part of it. It’s just a stimulus to feed an idea. I<br />

then work with Sarvar Sabri, who’s our Musical<br />

Director, and explain the kind of sounds I’m<br />

hearing. Or he may have seen what I’ve<br />

created and have some tune in his head, and<br />

a piece develops from there.<br />

Do you give yourself a timescale?<br />

I don’t think it’s as black and white as that. I<br />

usually have an idea early on whether<br />

something’s going to work, and if it doesn’t,<br />

then I lay it to rest. Obviously, if I’m working on<br />

a commissioned piece, I have to make sure<br />

that I have something I can create. It has to be<br />

something that interests me. If I’m generally<br />

excited about it, then I know I can make it<br />

work.<br />

Is there a fellow artist who’s proved to be a<br />

big inspiration to you over the years?<br />

There are a lot of people, actually. I think<br />

Richard Alston is someone who’s been a huge<br />

inspiration, because his relationship with<br />

dance and music is very similar to mine. He’s<br />

also mentored one of our research projects,<br />

offered his pearls of wisdom and given us, as<br />

a company, some great feedback. Richard<br />

loved Kathakbox and invited us to perform at<br />

The Place in London as part of their fortieth<br />

anniversary programme. It was there that he<br />

announced to the whole auditorium that he<br />

was ‘a real fan of Sonia Sabri’... Shobana<br />

Jeyasingh is another choreographer who I<br />

really admire. She’s very interesting, because<br />

she asks similar questions about her style of<br />

dance to those that I ask, like ‘why can’t it be<br />

classical and contemporary at the same<br />

time?’. She’s also created some very stunning<br />

pieces of work which take her art form to a<br />

completely different dimension.<br />

How do you balance your time between the<br />

educational side of the company and<br />

performing?<br />

We’re now beginning to delegate more work. I<br />

now have dancers coming through who can<br />

deliver workshops and perform. It’s all about<br />

legacy as well. I can’t be dancing forever, and<br />

my work should continue when I’m not here,<br />

but I can only do that through dancers and<br />

musicians who have trained through the<br />

company. A lot of our company dancers are<br />

going out and work-shopping, which frees me<br />

up to do what I should be doing - the work<br />

which needs more time; the choreography, the<br />

performing and the creating of works for the<br />

company.<br />

What does it mean to you as a company to<br />

have finally secured funding from the Arts<br />

Council?<br />

It’s a wonderful feeling. We’ve been knocking<br />

on their door for the past nine years. I’ve<br />

always believed that the company has<br />

delivered new work and groundbreaking<br />

pieces within South Asian dance which really<br />

ticks all their boxes. But no doubt the Arts<br />

Council has had its own agenda, and I<br />

suppose they only have a certain amount of<br />

money to allocate at any given time. But I can<br />

now understand why they’ve given it to me, as<br />

they probably think they’ve had enough of me<br />

saying the same thing over and over again.<br />

And we do an awful lot of international work.<br />

There’s no other dance group in the Midlands<br />

that does as much international touring. I don’t<br />

like to blow my own trumpet but there aren’t a<br />

lot of small-scale companies who do forty<br />

shows in a tour, so we’re in a very privileged<br />

position. However, I wish that they’d<br />

recognised us earlier on, because we could<br />

have done something really, really fantastic.<br />

How will the funding be spent?<br />

It’s not a great amount but it will enable us to<br />

sort ourselves in terms of space. It allows us<br />

to recruit a couple of part-time staff, but<br />

that’s about it.<br />

How much of your success do you<br />

attribute to your Birmingham roots?<br />

An awful lot of it. I’m a Brummie-trained<br />

dancer, because my teacher was from here,<br />

and mac has been there all along, offering<br />

support. Also, I met my husband Sabri here -<br />

he’s the Musical Director - and if it wasn’t for<br />

the one hundred-and-ten percent effort that<br />

he gives to the company, we wouldn’t have a<br />

company. If the two of us hadn’t put in so<br />

much personal time and investment, we<br />

wouldn’t have lasted for even two years. The<br />

amount of times we’ve been up at 2am<br />

sticking labels on flyers... I consider myself<br />

really fortunate to be in Birmingham. I’ve<br />

been given numerous invitations to move to<br />

London - because that’s where it all happens<br />

- but I’ve always turned them down. I’ve<br />

seen the people who’ve gone there and<br />

they’re really struggling. London is so cutthroat;<br />

in Birmingham, artists support each<br />

other. I also make a point of giving work to<br />

musicians and dancers based in<br />

Birmingham. We’re very much homegrown...<br />

Sonia Sabri Dance Company appear at mac<br />

Arts Centre, Birmingham, from Fri 23 & Sat<br />

24 <strong>Nov</strong>ember.

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