Volume 1: Pages xxxiv to lxxi - Cork Past and Present
Volume 1: Pages xxxiv to lxxi - Cork Past and Present
Volume 1: Pages xxxiv to lxxi - Cork Past and Present
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lxiv BISHOP DOwNES' HISS.<br />
cited by Godolphin seem <strong>to</strong> prove ; unless there be some particular<br />
constitution <strong>to</strong> the contrary. [Godolph.,Abridge.,p.41-SedQuwre.]<br />
And, besides, T think I have heard that it is so in the province of<br />
Ardnragh, <strong>and</strong> I do believe it is so in this province, but I have not<br />
time now <strong>to</strong> enquire particularly in<strong>to</strong> it. I suppose he has by some<br />
act acknowledged you <strong>to</strong> be Guardian of the Spiritualties.<br />
As <strong>to</strong> the second.-I suppose the power of the Vicar-General<br />
ceases upon the vacancy of the Bishopric-so says Barbosa de jure<br />
ecelesi., de vicar., et coadju. epi. No. 44; <strong>and</strong> I know, that Sir<br />
John Topham, upon the vacancy of the See of Dublin, takes out a<br />
new commission from the Deans <strong>and</strong> Chapters of Christchurch <strong>and</strong><br />
St. Patrick's, as Guardians of the Spiritualties, <strong>and</strong> besides a Vicar-<br />
General has very rarely the power of institution granted <strong>to</strong> him in<br />
his commission.<br />
As <strong>to</strong> the third.-I suppose he may be cited <strong>and</strong> censured in your<br />
court, <strong>and</strong> the institution be declared null unless there be some particular<br />
constitution or prescription in the diocese of Cloyne, which<br />
makes the Deane <strong>and</strong> Chapter Guardian of the Spiritualties, <strong>and</strong><br />
that he acted by virtue of a commission from them ; <strong>and</strong> I don't<br />
know what other court can properly take cognizance of it. [6th<br />
Dec., de off, vie. c. p. Amana Ecclesia.]<br />
As <strong>to</strong> the last.-I suppose there lyes no appeal from Cashel <strong>to</strong><br />
the Primate, that provence being no way subordinate <strong>to</strong> the See of<br />
Ardmagh, the Primate having no authority but in his own province,<br />
unless it be in wills <strong>and</strong> faculties for as much as I know of the<br />
matter, so that if there be any appeal it must be <strong>to</strong> the King in<br />
Chancery.<br />
Your predecessor, Marsh, <strong>to</strong>ld me, that in the last vacancy of the<br />
See of Kilialloo, he granted a commission for the administration of<br />
the Spiritualties. The Primate was Guardian of the Spiritualties<br />
when Dromore was last vacant.<br />
If neither the Archbishop of Cashel nor the Dean <strong>and</strong> Chapter<br />
spew any precedents nor prescription, the question will then be<strong>to</strong><br />
whom of common right the Guardianship of the Spiritualties<br />
does belong The books generally say, that the Dean <strong>and</strong> Chapter,<br />
of common right, are Guardians of the Spiritualties-cede vacante,<br />
cus<strong>to</strong>dia spiritualium et temporalium de jure communi pertinet ad<br />
capitulum. [Lyndwood.]<br />
The lawyers say the common law of Engl<strong>and</strong> is the same with<br />
the comuron law of Irel<strong>and</strong>.<br />
When there is a controversy between a Eishop <strong>and</strong> Archbishop<br />
concerning j urisdictiou, the King is <strong>to</strong> declare their bounds. [Godolp.,<br />
p. 18.]<br />
The Archbishop may not exercise his jurisdiction over the subjects<br />
of his suffragan but in certain cases. Ilostiensis enumerates<br />
twenty-one cases. [Godolp., p. 19.]<br />
The King's letter [is necessary] <strong>to</strong> s<strong>to</strong>p any patent so that, I<br />
suppose, your patent will remain of force.<br />
BISHOP DOW NES' DISS. 1xv<br />
But the case of the institution is not altered, but is voyd now if it<br />
was so before ; <strong>and</strong> the person that instituted may be proceeded<br />
against for meddling with a thing that he had no right <strong>to</strong> meddle in.<br />
The persons that had grants of the livings have been delay'd, it<br />
seems, so long, that there has been opportunity given <strong>to</strong> defeat<br />
their grants.<br />
Stat . concerning citations out of the diocese - Arclriep. potest<br />
excommuuicare Vivarium Epi., si deliquit circa officium commissum<br />
- si peccaret in its qua soot jurisdictionis . [Barbossa de archiepis.<br />
seu metrop ' no. 30.]<br />
Archiepus . potest punire crimina no<strong>to</strong>ria subdi<strong>to</strong>rum suffraganei.<br />
[Spala ., vol_ i ., p. 454.]<br />
Ex ecclesiastica consuetudine et in<strong>to</strong> canouico non jure divino<br />
metropolitanus est episeopus animaruni suorum suffraganeorum.<br />
[Spalatensis vol. i., p. 455.]<br />
Metropolitanus juries ordinarius sufr aganeormn . [Spat., p. 456.]<br />
Convocata Synodo ex Gregorii magni response ad Inter August-<br />
A, rchiepi Cantuarii n e Arelatensis palhatus privetur authoritate in Epo.<br />
Canon apost. 33 Epi nihil prreter conscientiam capitis gerant pmna<br />
ametrop, ill rt r Lpis ltiic. Cantuar' uspendit a divinis , Ep ob turbatarn<br />
alterins Epi burr dictionem [p. 458] [p. 459] - Quidquid potest<br />
ecclesia <strong>to</strong>tes in episeopos id potest Metrop' in suffraganeos ipsius,<br />
enim nomnine inter eomprovinciales Epos . ille prwest . [p. 464]-<br />
Cone. Sardicensi - Qui ejicitur facultatem habet confugiendi ad<br />
Epum. metropolis ut ipsins causa diligenter cognoscatur.<br />
Causas devolvi ad metropol . per appellationem etiam nova jura<br />
confirmant - de otfic. Leg. c. cum non.<br />
Ex ne,,ligentia Eporum . etiam cause subdi<strong>to</strong>rum devolvunt ad<br />
nretropolitannrn . L'ausquisq . Epus. est universal is jure divino sed<br />
jure ecclesiastico ordiuarie metropolitanus solos debet supplere<br />
negligentiaui Epi hullo negotio excep<strong>to</strong>.<br />
Ko<strong>to</strong>ria crimina subdi<strong>to</strong>r - suor-. suffrag. libere corrigat Metropoli<br />
decens C. Romana 6. Quod Abbas intelligit non solurn in<br />
visitatione . [Spat., p. 465.]<br />
Patriarchte nretropolitanornm consecrationem habuerunt [p. 480],<br />
etiann j urisdiction em in illus.<br />
Non omnes eccles i r subjectm sunt patriarchis [p. 487] sed ilia;<br />
sohe quw erant illis subjecttr tempore Concilii Niceni.<br />
AT THE end of Brsrrop DowNES' manuscript is stuck in a printed<br />
copy of Letters Patent of King William III ., dated 7th of April,<br />
11th of the King [ 3.D. ], addressed <strong>to</strong> the Archbishops <strong>and</strong><br />
Bishops of Irel<strong>and</strong> , authorizing <strong>and</strong> directing a collection in aid of<br />
the Vaudois inhabiting the valleys on this side of the River Cluson<br />
(whose distressed state is set forth at length) <strong>to</strong> be made after the<br />
Stir of May, which was appointed for a day of General Fasting <strong>and</strong><br />
Humiliation.<br />
Dublin : Priute 4 by Andrew ('rook. m)cxcix.<br />
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