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31a<br />

centrated animal feeding operation, or vessel<br />

or other floating craft, from which pollutants<br />

are or may be discharged.<br />

33 U.S.C. § 1362(14). The definition in no way depends<br />

on the manner in which the pollutant arrives<br />

at the “discernible, confined and discrete conveyance.”<br />

That is, it makes no difference whether the<br />

pollutant arrives as the result of “controlled water<br />

used by a person” or through natural runoff.<br />

We agree with the analysis of the district court in<br />

Environmental Protection Information Center v. Pacific<br />

Lumber Co. (“EPIC”), 2003 WL 25506817 (N.D.<br />

Cal. 2003). Relying on Forsgren, Judge Patel concluded<br />

that stormwater runoff from logging roads<br />

that was collected in a system of ditches, culverts,<br />

and channels, and then discharged into protected<br />

water, was a point source discharge requiring an<br />

NPDES permit. After an extensive analysis, the district<br />

court wrote:<br />

The water runoff system this action addresses<br />

is an elaborate and extensive one.<br />

Blending a variety of drainage methods, the<br />

system covers a substantial amount of land<br />

and addresses a significant amount of water.<br />

Where this runoff system involves “surface<br />

drainage[ ] or road construction from which<br />

there is natural runoff,” section 122.27 [the<br />

Silvicultural Rule] may control. But where<br />

the system utilizes the kind of conduits and<br />

channels embraced by section 502(14), section<br />

122.27 does not control: It cannot control,<br />

for one, because section 502(14) of the<br />

CWA trumps section 122.27’s operation, as<br />

EPA may not alter the definition of an existing<br />

“point source.” And it cannot control, for

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