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there would be an accommodation<br />

made in the context of<br />

international norms, st<strong>and</strong>ards,<br />

rules <strong>and</strong> laws with China.<br />

Admiral Swift rejected the notion<br />

that the world is entering into<br />

another cold war. The Cold War<br />

between the US <strong>and</strong> the erstwhile<br />

Soviet Union was a result of the<br />

great doubt on both sides about<br />

each other’s strength that led to<br />

great uncertainty around the world<br />

about which was more powerful<br />

<strong>and</strong> consequently who would side<br />

with who became a matter of<br />

concern globally, he explained.<br />

That is not the case where the<br />

world is today, he said. Because of<br />

its economic weight, China is a<br />

global power from a policy<br />

perspective, but from a military<br />

perspective, it is a regional power,<br />

he observed. Hence, the<br />

perspective of power is different in<br />

the Cold War context, he added.<br />

The Unpredictable North Korea<br />

Admiral Swift observed that North<br />

Korea is the primary concern today<br />

because it is difficult to predict<br />

exactly what the government in<br />

North Korea is striving for. He<br />

noted that Kim Jong-un’s recent<br />

success of getting a satellite in the<br />

space followed <strong>by</strong> a nuclear test<br />

<strong>and</strong> now the latest ratcheting up of<br />

tensions are of great concern.<br />

Even as Pyongyang is said to be<br />

seeking a dialogue with the United<br />

States, its method of threatening to<br />

generate a discussion is not<br />

acceptable, he pointed out. Admiral<br />

Swift noted that the United States<br />

takes the threat seriously <strong>and</strong> it has<br />

been taking measures to reduce the<br />

risk. He said the US is in a dialogue<br />

with other countries in the region<br />

that are equally concerned about<br />

how destabilizing an open conflict<br />

would create <strong>and</strong> the fact that it<br />

would be the first order<br />

consequences, the second <strong>and</strong> third<br />

order consequences from an<br />

economic perspective. He observed<br />

that the capabilities that some<br />

attribute to North Korea are<br />

somewhat exaggerated, even<br />

though the risk is a serious one.<br />

The danger is the unpredictability<br />

<strong>and</strong> without underst<strong>and</strong>ing the goal<br />

of North Korea, it is difficult to<br />

develop a policy approach that<br />

would deescalate the situation, he<br />

suggested.<br />

Admiral Swift said that all the<br />

rhetoric coming out of North<br />

Korea may be something that is a<br />

cover for something smaller that<br />

might occur in the background <strong>and</strong><br />

needs to pay attention to, he said.<br />

He noted that North Korea would<br />

not utilize international norms,<br />

st<strong>and</strong>ards, rules <strong>and</strong> laws to resolve<br />

disputes, given that it is not even<br />

approachable in a dialogue.<br />

South China Sea <strong>and</strong> the<br />

Senkakus/Diaoyu Isl<strong>and</strong>s<br />

Admiral Swift noted that China<br />

may underst<strong>and</strong> the necessity of<br />

turning to international arbitration<br />

to resolve the territorial issues, if<br />

not value the global norms. With<br />

respect to the Philippines bringing<br />

its claim in Scarborough Reef to<br />

international arbitration, he said,<br />

the Chinese rejection would not<br />

matter as the issue would be<br />

resolved <strong>by</strong> the international<br />

tribunal with or without China’s<br />

participation. He observed that<br />

China’s position has been clear all<br />

along in rejecting multilateral<br />

resolution, but its bilateral<br />

approach to resolving differences is<br />

problematic, he added.<br />

He observed that taking the issue<br />

to an international court empowers<br />

other countries in the region <strong>and</strong><br />

the move itself is a victory, even as<br />

China rejects the outcome. Admiral<br />

Swift made an interesting<br />

observation about what if China<br />

were to win the case in absentia.<br />

This would raise the dilemma<br />

whether it would embrace<br />

international arbitration or not. He<br />

also pointed out that Vietnam may<br />

be interested in pursuing the<br />

Philippines’ way.<br />

On the Senkaku issue, Admiral<br />

Swift noted that Japan is unwilling<br />

to acknowledge that there is a<br />

dispute because from the Japanese<br />

perspective the acknowledgment of<br />

the dispute diminishes the power<br />

of their opposition. He also noted<br />

that China thought that the same<br />

model that proved successful with<br />

Scarborough Reef would gain the<br />

same level of success with the<br />

Senkakus.<br />

Admiral Swift said Taiwan does not<br />

support the Chinese position on<br />

the disputed isl<strong>and</strong>. The Taiwanese<br />

position is that the Chinese claim is<br />

not valid <strong>and</strong> that their claim to the<br />

isl<strong>and</strong> is valid, he added. The great<br />

risk is that if there is no arbitration<br />

<strong>and</strong> dialogue to resolve these<br />

issues, the unfortunate experience<br />

globally is, people turn to force, he<br />

pointed out.<br />

On Japan’s move towards relaxing<br />

some of their laws to govern their<br />

activities of self-defence, Admiral<br />

Swift observed that Tokyo appears<br />

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