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703 Debate on the Address<br />

15 MAY 2013<br />

Debate on the Address<br />

704<br />

[Ian Swales]<br />

corporation tax rate that is the most competitive in the<br />

G20. Unfortunately, large companies can easily move<br />

their profits and operations outside the G20. I want to<br />

speak about the effect that this is having on the UK<br />

economy and growth.<br />

There is widespread bafflement about how we can<br />

have an extra 1.2 million private sector jobs and so little<br />

growth. Part of the answer is tax avoidance, because<br />

many of those workers are employed by offshore companies.<br />

For example, Amazon is growing in this country at<br />

more than 20% a year. It employs thousands of people,<br />

but its sales of £4 billion do not appear in our economy.<br />

They appear in Luxembourg. Microsoft, eBay, Google<br />

and others have large businesses in the UK but their<br />

figures do not show up either, and the Google chief<br />

executive proudly talked about avoiding $2 billion in<br />

tax last year.<br />

Now let us turn to the companies that are based here.<br />

The tax system encourages them to move manufacturing<br />

and other parts of their supply chain overseas. The<br />

Government’s change in controlled foreign company<br />

legislation makes this even more likely. Companies that<br />

do declare large profits here will find that they get a<br />

knock on the door from a well paid tax partner of a<br />

large accountancy firm, who will put forward schemes<br />

whereby corporation tax can be avoided, the simplest of<br />

which is to export the profits to Luxembourg via interest<br />

payments. This is a route followed by well-known companies<br />

such as Vodafone and Pearson, owner of the Financial<br />

Times. In fact, it is done by most of our national<br />

newspapers, which might explain why media reporting<br />

of this issue is patchy at best.<br />

If a profit-making company fails to succumb to the<br />

charm offensive of the tax partner, something more<br />

sinister is likely to happen. The next knock on the door<br />

could be from the vulture capitalists—representatives<br />

targeting an aggressive takeover of the company. Let us<br />

take a current example. The outstanding business success<br />

and growth of Betfair has led it recently to declare £247<br />

million in profits. Its prospective suitors are CVC Capital.<br />

What will it bring to Betfair—better management;<br />

outstanding new internet technology? The clue is probably<br />

in the description of CVC as a London and Luxembourgbased<br />

venture capitalist. I am guessing that it will bring<br />

a shameless approach to exporting Betfair’s profits to<br />

avoid paying UK corporation tax. Boots and Thames<br />

Water are just two of the many companies that have<br />

been taken over and had their UK profits stripped out<br />

of the country and placed in tax havens.<br />

The Government have themselves facilitated tax<br />

avoidance, not just through the tax framework but<br />

through their procurement and private finance initiative<br />

activity. The Green Book on PFI assessment still contains<br />

an assumption that 10% of total PFI payments, not<br />

profits, will come back to the Government in tax. This<br />

is risible when one examines the facts. The vast bulk of<br />

PFI deals now have an offshore element. HMRC’s own<br />

offices are owned in Bermuda, the Home Office HQ is<br />

owned in Guernsey, PFI schools in my constituency are<br />

50% owned in Jersey, and, most bizarrely of all, junction<br />

1A to junction 3 of the M40 is 50% owned in Guernsey.<br />

This is the story throughout the country. It is high time<br />

the Green Book was changed.<br />

The leakage of money from our tax system and the<br />

incentives for companies to operate in certain ways are<br />

bad for the economy, bad for growth and bad for<br />

individual taxpayers. I welcome the moves that the<br />

Government have already made. Let us remember that<br />

nearly all the framework was put in place or left in place<br />

by the last Government, and they compounded the<br />

problem by sucking up to their friends in the City,<br />

stripping high-level resource out of HMRC and telling<br />

it to go easy on big companies.<br />

I hope that the Government will consider limiting<br />

offshore interest payments and closing the loopholes in<br />

Luxembourg and Holland, via our membership of the<br />

EU. They should prosecute tax evaders and expose and,<br />

where appropriate, prosecute their advisers. They should<br />

add advisers to their team who are not from big business<br />

or big accountancy firms and can speak up for ordinary<br />

taxpayers and small business, and they should increase<br />

specialist HMRC resources. Tax evasion and avoidance<br />

is a cancer in our society and I hope that the Government<br />

will keep on acting aggressively to cut it out.<br />

4.27 pm<br />

Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op): The<br />

debates on the Queen’s Speech are a good time to look<br />

again at the relationship between us as elected Members<br />

and those who sent us here. I always feel that the one<br />

thing that I should be doing for my constituents in<br />

Huddersfield is to try to ensure that they have a good<br />

life, and most of us know what that entails. One of the<br />

things that make me feel that the good life is achievable<br />

is that over the years we have come closer to being a<br />

high-skilled, high-paid economy. However, in recent<br />

years we have faltered, and we must look closely at the<br />

challenges that we face, globally and internationally,<br />

that might lead to us being a low-skills, low-pay economy.<br />

There is already great competition around the world<br />

from people with high skills who are low paid, and I<br />

think of India in particular. Any Queen’s Speech debate<br />

on the economy must think thoroughly about the policies<br />

that we pursue in order to obtain the good life for our<br />

constituents, with high pay in a high skills economy.<br />

I quite liked some measures in the Queen’s Speech,<br />

including those relating to capital allowances and the<br />

employment allowance. It is not all bad; it is just all a bit<br />

vapid. There are some big gaps; big opportunities. We<br />

have just spent about 18 months with almost nothing to<br />

debate in the House, so there is plenty of room for a<br />

vigorous programme to get this country moving and<br />

working again.<br />

I would have loved to see more vision, leadership and<br />

courage in the Queen’s Speech. There are so many<br />

things that we could be doing. Everyone will know of<br />

my interest in skills. I think that any Queen’s Speech at<br />

this time, when nearly 1 million young people are<br />

unemployed, should have introduced a Bill to abolish<br />

unemployment before the age of 25. It would cost only<br />

between £4.5 billion and £5 billion a year, but it would<br />

have stopped politicians condemning young people to<br />

live in the shadows of society on a bit of unemployment<br />

benefit here and a bit of housing benefit there. We could<br />

have ensured that every young person in this country<br />

was in education, training or work experience of some<br />

kind. That would have broken, and can still break, the<br />

curse of intergenerational worklessness. That is what we<br />

should have had in the Queen’s Speech.

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