ENGINEERING - Royal Australian Navy
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5 6 N A VY EN G I N E E R I N G B UL L ET IN F E B RU A RY 20 0 2<br />
The above can appear to be all<br />
doom and gloom, but this is not<br />
the case, AMSA will and do give<br />
a level of recognition, but it is<br />
dependent on what you have<br />
accomplished during your time in<br />
the <strong>Navy</strong>. They treat the<br />
recognition on a case by case<br />
basis. As mentioned earlier,<br />
DNPR(E&L) is working with AMSA<br />
to simplify and streamline the<br />
recognition process.<br />
DNPR(E&L) may be successful in<br />
gaining a streamlined process<br />
but one factor will always remain;<br />
and that is the sitting of an AMSA<br />
oral examination. Even those<br />
people who obtain a Diploma or<br />
Advanced Diploma from an AMSA<br />
approved Training provider still<br />
have to sit an oral examination,<br />
it is part of the license regime.<br />
SO WHAT RECOGNITION<br />
DO I GET FOR AN OPERATO R<br />
Q UA L I F I CATION?<br />
At the AMSA or National level you<br />
could expect to gain recognition<br />
for half your sea time, your<br />
civilian trade qualification should<br />
be recognised, whether it is a<br />
NSW Tradesman’s Certificate or a<br />
MERS Certificate III. They may<br />
recognise aspects of First aid,<br />
Firefighting and Survival at Sea.<br />
AMSA would then expect you to<br />
complete an approved course at<br />
an approved Training Provider<br />
before they would allow you to sit<br />
an oral examination.<br />
If however you wished to apply<br />
for a State based ‘Certificate of<br />
Competence’ then the process is<br />
a lot better. DNPR(E&L) gained a<br />
level of recognition with the<br />
National Marine Safety<br />
Committee (NMSC) last<br />
November. The NMSC consists of<br />
representatives from each of the<br />
State and Territory Marine<br />
Authorities and AMSA. The NMSC<br />
produced a ‘Guideline for<br />
Recognition of <strong>Australian</strong> Defence<br />
Force Marine Qualifications’. This<br />
publication is available at the<br />
NMSC we b s i te (www. n m s c . g ov. a u ) .<br />
The guideline gives the examiner<br />
in each State or Territory<br />
guidance on how much<br />
Recognition of Prior Learning they<br />
should give sailors who hold an<br />
AMOC, MWC or EWC. The<br />
guideline gives almost equivalent<br />
recognition as follows:<br />
• AMOC – Marine Engine Driver<br />
Class 3<br />
• MWC – Marine Engine Driver<br />
Class 2<br />
• EWC – Marine Engine Driver<br />
Class 1<br />
T h e re may be some short falls in<br />
some areas for exa mple Math s<br />
at the Marine Engine Dri ve r<br />
Class 1 level. The guideline also<br />
accepts that you would have<br />
a t tained the re qu i red seatime,<br />
a fter all you would have had to<br />
been at sea to gain an AMOC,<br />
M WC or EWC. It also assumes<br />
you have comp l e ted Fi rst Aid,<br />
Fi re Fighting and Surv i val at Sea<br />
t raining. You will, howeve r, have<br />
to sit an oral examination pri o r<br />
to being awa rded the re l eva n t<br />
C e rt i fi c a te of Comp e te n c y.<br />
This will satisfy the Licensing<br />
re qu i re m e n t .<br />
If the examiner is not confident<br />
with your abilities, he will not<br />
award you with the Certificate of<br />
Competence, he will advise you<br />
on the short falls and how you<br />
can address them before sitting<br />
the oral examination again.<br />
Remember he is taking<br />
responsibility for ensuring you<br />
meet a regulation of an Act of<br />
Parliament.<br />
As you will be sitting an oral<br />
assessment I would suggest you<br />
check out the Uniform Shipping<br />
Laws (USL) Code, Section 2/3.<br />
It is expensive to purchase in its<br />
entirety, but you would only need<br />
sections 1, 2 and/or 3. They are<br />
available from Government<br />
Information Shops. Section 1<br />
covers Introduction, Definitions<br />
and General Requirements and<br />
costs $4.00, Section 2 covers<br />
Qualifications and Manning,<br />
Trading Vessels and costs<br />
$6.95, and section 3 covers<br />
Qualifications and Manning,<br />
Fishing Vessels and its cost<br />
is $9.50.<br />
Please be aware that there is<br />
change afoot to the USL Code by<br />
the introduction of the National<br />
Standard for Commercial Vessels<br />
(NSCV). Part D of this covers<br />
Crew Competencies. The NSCV<br />
has yet to be passed into<br />
legislation by an ‘Act’ of each and<br />
every State, so this may take a<br />
while.<br />
CO NC LUSION<br />
As you can see from the above,<br />
gaining a license, whether it be<br />
for an A Grade Electrician or<br />
Marine Engine Driver, is no mere<br />
formality. It is not something the<br />
<strong>Navy</strong> can do for you, as <strong>Navy</strong><br />
cannot give the license, as <strong>Navy</strong><br />
is not the regulatory body.<br />
The qu a l i fications <strong>Navy</strong> does<br />
awa rd you are a step towa rd s<br />
these licenses, but may not cove r<br />
all aspects of what you need.<br />
T h e re fo re, use the DASS system to<br />
‘ top-up’ on the education aspects.<br />
DNPR(E&L) is working towards<br />
making the processes of gaining<br />
licenses as easy as possible, but<br />
when each State licenses in a<br />
different way this makes things<br />
very difficult. Changes are<br />
happening, with things like the<br />
introduction of National Electrical<br />
Licensing but they usually have to<br />
be brought into legislation by an<br />
‘Act’ of State Parliament, and we<br />
all know how long politics takes.<br />
If you would like to discuss any<br />
details of this article then I can<br />
be contacted by email at<br />
rob.allard@defence.gov.au or by<br />
phone on (02) 6266 4110.<br />
About the author Rob Allard spent<br />
22 years in the <strong>Navy</strong> as a MTP and MT,<br />
he paid off in January 1997 as a Warrant<br />
Officer, his last posting was as the DMEO<br />
on HMAS Melbourne, which he regards<br />
as the ultimate job for a sailor. He has<br />
worked in DNPR(E&L) since its inception,<br />
and in DEP(N) before that. He has been<br />
involved with training and employment<br />
issues since he started in DEP(N) in June<br />
1997 and his ultimate goal is to gain as<br />
much recognition for the MT operator<br />
qualifications as possible, as he never got<br />
any when he paid off.