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has been an evolution in ingredients and cooking techniques,<br />

and if <strong>the</strong> probiotics and enzymes are from sprouted seeds,<br />

<strong>the</strong>y can withstand a lot more punishment and survive much<br />

better. The “mortality rate” is very small and <strong>the</strong> nutrition far<br />

exceeds that in any o<strong>the</strong>r “complete and balanced” food. This is<br />

hard to believe for raw food advocates, but we are very transparent<br />

with our data and we have <strong>the</strong> analysis to back up <strong>the</strong>se<br />

claims.<br />

How does <strong>the</strong> nutrition in Carna4 compare to a raw diet?<br />

Of course, <strong>the</strong> very best way to feed your dog is by purchasing<br />

a variety of good quality fresh meat, after grilling <strong>the</strong> butcher<br />

about his sources and what processes are used, <strong>the</strong>n adding<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r whole foods and supplementing appropriately. But this<br />

takes a lot of knowledge and time, and not everyone has <strong>the</strong><br />

ability to do <strong>the</strong> research, or <strong>the</strong> access to <strong>the</strong> whole foods and<br />

nutrition <strong>the</strong>ir dog requires. If your choice is prepared food,<br />

Carna4 is as nutritious as anything you can buy in a package<br />

- and without adding any potentially harmful syn<strong>the</strong>tic supplements.<br />

Some people feed raw but use Carna4 for greater convenience<br />

when <strong>the</strong>y are rushed, or on <strong>the</strong> road. O<strong>the</strong>r customers<br />

have switched from raw or home prepared foods to Carna4.<br />

Since Carna4 is not heated to high temperatures, how do you<br />

ensure <strong>the</strong> safety of <strong>the</strong> food?<br />

First of all, <strong>the</strong> baking temperature we use (195 o F/90 o C) is<br />

sufficient to kill pathogens like salmonella. But, to be certain<br />

<strong>the</strong> food is completely safe, we thoroughly check <strong>the</strong> finished<br />

product before it’s released for sale. Our quarantine program<br />

ensures that each batch does not leave <strong>the</strong> plant until all <strong>the</strong><br />

testing is done. We test every single batch for 64 different nutrients<br />

as well as for salmonella, E. coli and o<strong>the</strong>r pathogens,<br />

including aflatoxins, mercury and arsenic. We test down to one<br />

part per billion and we don’t find any contaminants, which is<br />

due to using really good quality ingredients and making <strong>the</strong><br />

food in small batches.<br />

<strong>the</strong> necessary nutrients without <strong>the</strong> risk of contaminants, and<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is a need for products with only natural nutrition.<br />

Carna4 is quite expensive compared to o<strong>the</strong>r packaged foods<br />

- can you comment on that?<br />

People do get sticker shock when <strong>the</strong>y first see our prices. But<br />

it doesn’t make sense to compare Carna4 to an ordinary bag<br />

of dog food - which has no real food in it! The higher nutritional<br />

value of Carna4 means it is more appropriate to compare<br />

it to raw food. The daily feeding cost is actually quite modest; it<br />

compares very favorably to many premade raw foods, and we<br />

have provided some analysis on our website.<br />

What is your vision for <strong>the</strong> future of <strong>the</strong> company?<br />

We intend to stay small. We are a real family business. Maria<br />

and I love working toge<strong>the</strong>r: some couples don’t but we do, and<br />

I have recently moved my office into a space in Maria’s clinic.<br />

We also seek out o<strong>the</strong>r family businesses to work with. We buy<br />

our sprouted seeds from a family business in Iowa; our baking<br />

is done by a family business and our packaging is supplied by a<br />

family business.<br />

We want to remain a real family business, and we want to continue<br />

producing small quantities of really good food. We would<br />

much ra<strong>the</strong>r focus on maintaining <strong>the</strong> high quality of our product.<br />

f<br />

This is very important. Most pet food manufacturers are now<br />

doing testing to show <strong>the</strong> FDA, but <strong>the</strong>y are not testing every<br />

batch. If every batch were tested, you would never have recalls.<br />

After <strong>the</strong> melamine contamination one company decided to<br />

start using a quarantine program - it lasted only a month!<br />

With all <strong>the</strong> recent scares about contaminants in vitamin and<br />

mineral premixes used in kibbles, people are becoming much<br />

more aware of what <strong>the</strong>y are feeding. Even though many companies<br />

say <strong>the</strong>y “source” <strong>the</strong>ir premixes in <strong>the</strong> US, that doesn’t<br />

mean <strong>the</strong> country of origin is <strong>the</strong> US. Some vitamins are just not<br />

made in <strong>the</strong> US, and 80% of <strong>the</strong>m are produced in China and India.<br />

Dog owners are looking for alternative foods that provide<br />

54 May/June 2012 | <strong>Dogs</strong> <strong>Naturally</strong> <strong>Magazine</strong>

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