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1 That's all I can say at this point in time. So far back I cannot recall.
2 Q. 61 Do you remember any talk about the Carrickmines sewer and the introduction of
3 the Carrickmines sewer which was --
4 A. I tried to read it up before I came in here. But it wasn't clicking with me.
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5 Q. 62 Uh-huh. Well as I understand it, a sewer was going to run through the
6 Carrickmines Valley.
7 A. Uh-huh.
8 Q. 63 To serve the Ballyogan lands.
9 A. Okay.
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10 Q. 64 That had been agreed by the council.
11 A. Okay.
12 Q. 65 And it was in fact going to cut through the Monarch lands themselves.
13 A. Uh-huh.
14 Q. 66 Now, looking at that map. You might be able to help the Tribunal,
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15 Ms. Ormonde. Can you see any reason as to why one would apportion different
16 densities to any of those yellow lands?
17 A. Sorry, would you repeat that again for me.
18 Q. 67 If you just look at the map for a moment, all yellow are zoned residential.
19 A. Okay.
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20 Q. 68 Now, can you, Looking at that map and considering in particular the lands
21 outlined in red, which are the Monarch lands. Can you now think of any reason
22 as to why one would seek to zone the Monarch lands at a different density to
23 the balance of those yellow lands?
24 A. Well I wouldn't have thought about it at all because I didn't know who the
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25 owners. It didn't mean anything to me the ownership of the lands.
26 Q. 69 Let's leave aside ownership, Ms. Ormonde.
27 A. Yes.
28 Q. 70 Just look at the map and bring your experience since 1985 as a councillor to
29 bear on that map. And forgetting about who owns the lands. Can you see any
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30 reason why anybody would want to zone any portion of those at one particular
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