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the big interview<br />

that is our expectation. And, of course, the independent<br />

dealer represents by far the largest share of our business,<br />

so it’s an important part of our customer base.<br />

<strong>OPI</strong>: Let’s move on to the US wholesale industry.<br />

Were you surprised at Daisytek’s fall from grace?<br />

DG: Not too surprised. It was a virtual rather than an<br />

asset-rich <strong>com</strong>pany. Once you lose your funding, can’t pay<br />

suppliers and don’t have inventory, it doesn’t take long<br />

for customers to switch. And so the flight was very rapid.<br />

“Companies who have drifted off<br />

purely in pursuit of greed, have got<br />

into big trouble, reinforcing the<br />

position that it’s dangerous territory”<br />

<strong>OPI</strong>: A flawed business model?<br />

DG: Clearly. What was not fully appreciated was the difficulty<br />

and the amount of capital required to enter into the<br />

full line supply of office products. This industry is built on<br />

speed, and the only way you’re going to get speed and low<br />

cost is to have inventory in local markets. That requires<br />

huge investments in physical facilities and inventory. A<br />

slightly lower price while giving up on service, is not a<br />

proposition that will sell, so it was an underestimation of<br />

what it required to get into that segment of the business.<br />

<strong>OPI</strong>: Ostensibly, that leaves you and SP Richards. Is<br />

that a good thing?<br />

DG: It was SP Richards and United before Daisytek as well,<br />

because it was not a full line supplier. It’s when it tried to<br />

be<strong>com</strong>e a full line supplier that it exacerbated its problems.<br />

So really the industry has been served for sometime by two<br />

national wholesalers. All customers need at least two<br />

choices. Whether you need three or four remains to be<br />

seen. Here you’ve got two good options - both well run,<br />

well financed and healthy. So each dealer has a choice.<br />

<strong>OPI</strong>: Do you expect the likes of Tech Data, Synnex,<br />

Ingram Micro to try and move into the market or<br />

will they stay niche orientated?<br />

DG: It would be a whole different<br />

service proposition for<br />

them and requires a different<br />

business model. I think<br />

they’ll continue to be active<br />

players in the segment that<br />

makes sense for them.<br />

<strong>OPI</strong>: You bought<br />

Daisytek Inc for a<br />

knock down price of $1<br />

million. What does it<br />

offer you?<br />

DG: We were interested in<br />

the intellectual property. It<br />

has some software capabilities<br />

too and clearly we<br />

get the customer lists and<br />

suppliers and there is<br />

some information that I’m<br />

sure will be new to us. It<br />

had a software engine that<br />

allows you to do some<br />

product <strong>com</strong>parisons and<br />

which the industry had<br />

been using. We wanted to<br />

make sure the industry<br />

didn’t lose this, so we’ll<br />

try to keep that available.<br />

<strong>OPI</strong>: So some of the<br />

things Daisytek did<br />

were very impressive.<br />

DG: Yes. It didn’t get<br />

where it got to without<br />

delivering some good<br />

products and service to<br />

the industry.<br />

<strong>OPI</strong>: Will you keep that<br />

name - Daisytek Inc?<br />

DG: I don’t know - it wasn’t<br />

our primary focus. I don’t<br />

snapshot<br />

age: 53<br />

job title: CEO and president of<br />

United Stationers<br />

lives: Winnetka, Illinois<br />

favourite food: hamburgers!<br />

favourite restaurant: McDonald’s<br />

favourite drink: iced tea<br />

loves: The City of Hope<br />

hates: dysfunction<br />

education: under graduate degree<br />

in engineering from North<br />

Western, and MBA from Harvard<br />

alternative career: in the nonprofit<br />

world<br />

favourite past time:<br />

volunteering<br />

holiday destination: Colorado<br />

skiing<br />

biggest fear: Not responding<br />

fast enough to customers<br />

biggest hope: the industry<br />

learns to collaborate better<br />

nickname: none<br />

know whether or not there is some future use for that name.<br />

<strong>OPI</strong>: We’ll move onto your results over the period<br />

you’ve been there. Sales of $923 million for Q4 2002;<br />

$970 million for Q1 2003; and $955 million for Q2<br />

2003. Why the fluctuation?<br />

DG: That’s normal. January is a big month, so you get some<br />

extra pop in the first quarter. People cut off purchases but<br />

January is the new budget period so they’re replenishing<br />

inventories. Our sales for the first half of 2003 were up<br />

about 4%, heavily driven by growth on the <strong>com</strong>puter consumables<br />

side. The good news is that furniture has gone<br />

from big negatives to closer to flat, so that’s moving in the<br />

right direction, but certainly not driving any sales growth.<br />

<strong>OPI</strong>: Are you happy with sales overall?<br />

DG: I’m concerned about the more traditional office products<br />

segment, because that hasn’t picked up. The brakes are still<br />

on in large <strong>com</strong>panies in terms of spending, and the control<br />

of spending, even to the point where <strong>com</strong>panies talk<br />

about how you get a choice of one pen or one pencil and if<br />

Office Products International • December 2003

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