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INDIAN PLUMBING TODAY<br />
INTERACTION<br />
What India needs<br />
are three th<strong>in</strong>gs:<br />
Good Plumb<strong>in</strong>g...<br />
Good Plumb<strong>in</strong>g...<br />
Good Plumb<strong>in</strong>g...<br />
An <strong><strong>in</strong>teraction</strong> with Mr. M. K. Gupta<br />
Chairman, IPA DC & MD, MKG Consultants<br />
Mr. M. K. Gupta is a Consult<strong>in</strong>g Eng<strong>in</strong>eer <strong>in</strong> Public Health Eng<strong>in</strong>eer<strong>in</strong>g, Fire Fight<strong>in</strong>g<br />
& Allied Services, with more than four decades of experience. He graduated <strong>in</strong> Civil<br />
Eng<strong>in</strong>eer<strong>in</strong>g and worked <strong>in</strong>itially with U. P Jal Nigam. In 1975, he was sent by the Govt. of<br />
India to Jamaica, West Indies, where he worked for more than 10 years with the National<br />
Water Commission, Govt. of Jamaica, as a Water Supply/Sanitation Expert. Dur<strong>in</strong>g this<br />
tenure, Mr. Gupta implemented and <strong>co</strong>mmissioned many projects which were funded by<br />
the World Bank and other International Institutions.<br />
In 1988, he founded the <strong>co</strong>nsult<strong>in</strong>g firm, M/s MKG Consultants located <strong>in</strong> New Delhi. The<br />
firm has been associated with various prestigious projects <strong>in</strong> India & abroad. This year,<br />
M/s MKG Consultants will be celebrat<strong>in</strong>g the <strong>co</strong>mpletion of 25 years of its establishment.<br />
He is a visit<strong>in</strong>g faculty to various <strong>in</strong>stitutions, and a member of prestigious organizations<br />
such as IEI India, IWWA, AWWA, WPC & American Society of Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Eng<strong>in</strong>eers etc.<br />
He has presented numerous technical papers and presentations <strong>in</strong> National Conferences<br />
on subjects related to his expertise.<br />
Presently, he is the Chairman of Delhi Chapter of Indian Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Association and<br />
under his leadership many milestones related to the upliftment of plumb<strong>in</strong>g fraternity<br />
have been achieved. He was <strong>co</strong>nferred upon with the ‘Lifetime Achievement Award’ by<br />
Indian Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Association <strong>in</strong> the year 2011.<br />
Mr. Kamal Khokhani, Publisher – IPT had a detailed <strong><strong>in</strong>teraction</strong> with this veteran<br />
plumb<strong>in</strong>g professional. Here is what transpired…<br />
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First th<strong>in</strong>g first – please share with our readers,<br />
your professional career, so far.<br />
After my Graduation <strong>in</strong> Civil Eng<strong>in</strong>eer<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> 1971,<br />
it was not a matter of choice to select a professional<br />
career but rather accept what came one’s way. That<br />
was a time when Civil Eng<strong>in</strong>eers were not <strong>in</strong> great<br />
demand and one had to accept whatever first<br />
opportunity came along.<br />
However, for me, it was a matter of <strong>co</strong><strong>in</strong>cidence or<br />
somehow the hidden Grace of Almighty that from<br />
day one, an assignment related to eng<strong>in</strong>eer<strong>in</strong>g<br />
services and specifically related to water and<br />
waste water was given to me.<br />
In my early childhood, dur<strong>in</strong>g visits to my parental<br />
village, the irrigation system for agricultural<br />
purpose <strong>co</strong>nsist<strong>in</strong>g of canal, distributor, siphon<br />
system, open dra<strong>in</strong>s, sludge gates etc used to<br />
fasc<strong>in</strong>ate me. These observations strengthened<br />
my curiosity relat<strong>in</strong>g to water and its distribution.<br />
After a span of four years of work<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> India, I<br />
was fortunate to be selected <strong>in</strong> 1975, as one of the<br />
members of the Indian Delegation of Experts, by<br />
National Water Authority, Govt. of Jamaica, West<br />
Indies, as a good personal diplomatic gesture<br />
between Mrs. Indira Gandhi, Prime M<strong>in</strong>ister<br />
of India & Prime M<strong>in</strong>ister of Jamaica. I was the<br />
youngest member among the 11 member group,<br />
<strong>co</strong>nsist<strong>in</strong>g of ma<strong>in</strong>ly Chief Eng<strong>in</strong>eers & Heads of<br />
various Water Departments of India.<br />
My tenure of more than ten years <strong>in</strong> that <strong>co</strong>untry<br />
was a milestone <strong>in</strong> my life, as I had an opportunity<br />
to be exposed to various levels of people, dur<strong>in</strong>g<br />
With Mr. C S Gupta, Hon. Gen. Secratary - IPA; Dr. Yoganand Shastri<br />
Ex M<strong>in</strong>ister-Health, Government of Delhi; Mr. Sudhakaran Nair,<br />
President - IPA dur<strong>in</strong>g WPD Celebration<br />
the <strong>co</strong>mpletion of about 150 projects funded by<br />
World Bank relat<strong>in</strong>g to water and waste water.<br />
On return<strong>in</strong>g to India <strong>in</strong> 1985-86 and after work<strong>in</strong>g<br />
with Mr. Deolalikar for about two years, I started<br />
my own <strong>co</strong>nsultancy firm <strong>in</strong> the name of M/s MKG<br />
Consultants. This year, we will <strong>co</strong>mplete 25 years<br />
of our organization. Dur<strong>in</strong>g this period, we have<br />
ac<strong>co</strong>mplished a number of prestigious projects<br />
<strong>in</strong> India and overseas, relat<strong>in</strong>g to 7 star hotels,<br />
hospitals, townships, malls, low <strong>co</strong>st sanitation<br />
and voluntary works <strong>in</strong> regular sanitation.<br />
Which are the areas <strong>in</strong> which your organisation<br />
renders its expert services?<br />
Our organization renders its expert services<br />
<strong>in</strong> the field of Water, Waste Water, Plumb<strong>in</strong>g,<br />
Fire Fight<strong>in</strong>g, Solar Hot Water, Solid Waste<br />
Management, Ra<strong>in</strong> Water Harvest<strong>in</strong>g and<br />
Industrial Pip<strong>in</strong>g, etc. right from <strong>co</strong>ncept stage to<br />
execution stage.<br />
You have had the opportunity of work<strong>in</strong>g abroad.<br />
How is it different from work<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> India?<br />
With Mr. Ron George and his team at IPA New Delhi Chapter<br />
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One of the ma<strong>in</strong> differences, which I observed<br />
as a young man work<strong>in</strong>g abroad was that there,<br />
the system of work<strong>in</strong>g is very professional, nonbureaucratic,<br />
transparent and performanceoriented.<br />
One is duly rewarded for one’s hard<br />
work and achievement irrespective of one’s age or<br />
seniority and that is what made me reach to the<br />
top amongst all the members of my group after<br />
three years.<br />
With your rich experience <strong>in</strong> the field of Public<br />
Health Eng<strong>in</strong>eer<strong>in</strong>g, Fire fight<strong>in</strong>g and Allied<br />
Services, how do you view Indian plumb<strong>in</strong>g<br />
practices <strong>in</strong> today’s <strong>co</strong>ntext?<br />
Provid<strong>in</strong>g the <strong>co</strong>nsultancy services <strong>in</strong> the field of<br />
public health eng<strong>in</strong>eer<strong>in</strong>g & allied services <strong>in</strong> the<br />
present scenario is a great challenge, especially<br />
<strong>in</strong> the present trend of real estate development,<br />
when all over the place, high-rise build<strong>in</strong>gs are<br />
<strong>co</strong>m<strong>in</strong>g-up and efficiency and energy-sav<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong><br />
the environmental aspects are one of the biggest<br />
challenges. One has to dedicate one’s time and<br />
knowledge professionally, though there are lot of<br />
<strong>co</strong>nstra<strong>in</strong>ts and demands from the clients’ side<br />
also. It’s be<strong>co</strong>m<strong>in</strong>g more streaml<strong>in</strong>ed and the<br />
challenge to fulfill the multiple requirements of<br />
the various stakeholders is higher.<br />
How far do you th<strong>in</strong>k such activities have been<br />
successful <strong>in</strong> improv<strong>in</strong>g public health and safeguard<strong>in</strong>g<br />
the environment?<br />
With the <strong>in</strong>volvement of organizations like Indian<br />
Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Association and participation of likem<strong>in</strong>ded<br />
people, lot of awareness have <strong>co</strong>me <strong>in</strong> the<br />
m<strong>in</strong>ds of people and certa<strong>in</strong> neglected issues <strong>in</strong><br />
sanitation are be<strong>in</strong>g given quite a bit importance<br />
now, whether it is the quality of water, waste water<br />
treatment plant, recycl<strong>in</strong>g, ra<strong>in</strong> water harvest<strong>in</strong>g,<br />
At WPC booth at ISH - Ch<strong>in</strong>a. Seen <strong>in</strong> the picture (L to R) : Ms Lily Lee,<br />
Mr. C S Gupta, Mr. Sudhakaran Nair, Mr. Kamal Khokhani and<br />
Hans Tiedemann<br />
fire fight<strong>in</strong>g or solar hot water generation system,<br />
etc. are <strong>co</strong>ncerned.<br />
In the field of plumb<strong>in</strong>g, better<strong>in</strong>g the practice +<br />
employ<strong>in</strong>g susta<strong>in</strong>able techniques is the need of<br />
the hour. How do you th<strong>in</strong>k we can successfully<br />
achieve the required susta<strong>in</strong>ability ratio?<br />
Education, standardization, proper understand<strong>in</strong>g<br />
of the system, awareness through tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g and<br />
self-<strong>co</strong>nsciousness are the ma<strong>in</strong> factors. We<br />
should try to use the latest products and modern<br />
techniques, but keep<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> m<strong>in</strong>d the susta<strong>in</strong>ability<br />
of the project with least disturbances, the e<strong>co</strong>system<br />
of the surround<strong>in</strong>g environment should<br />
be balanced ac<strong>co</strong>rd<strong>in</strong>gly. For example, us<strong>in</strong>g<br />
of multiple ra<strong>in</strong> showers <strong>in</strong> hotels by high-end<br />
users may be adopted. However, we have to be<br />
<strong>co</strong>nscious of select<strong>in</strong>g the tested, certified and<br />
standard showers so that excess amount of water<br />
is not wasted and yet we get the same effect.<br />
The year 2013 will be observed as ‘International<br />
Year of Water Co-operation’. In what ways can<br />
we implement this <strong>in</strong> Indian <strong>co</strong>ntext?<br />
India is one of the develop<strong>in</strong>g <strong>co</strong>untries where<br />
water supply and sanitation needs great attention,<br />
especially <strong>in</strong> rural areas. Millions of people<br />
neither have access to safe dr<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g water nor<br />
to the sanitation system. There are still many<br />
villages where there is not a s<strong>in</strong>gle water supply<br />
system or toilet facilities. Spread<strong>in</strong>g the awareness<br />
<strong>in</strong> this field and implement<strong>in</strong>g practical solutions<br />
for safe dr<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g water and sanitation shall be a<br />
great <strong>co</strong>ntribution <strong>in</strong> Indian <strong>co</strong>ntext. Celebration<br />
of World Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Day on March 11, every year <strong>in</strong><br />
India by Indian Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Association along with<br />
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World Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Council to spread the awareness<br />
is one of the steps.<br />
How do you review a change <strong>in</strong> the plumb<strong>in</strong>g<br />
<strong>in</strong>dustry with the implementation of various<br />
plumb<strong>in</strong>g <strong>co</strong>des?<br />
Till recently, there was no Uniform Plumb<strong>in</strong>g<br />
Code <strong>in</strong> India especially for the plumb<strong>in</strong>g services<br />
<strong>in</strong>side the campuses of the build<strong>in</strong>gs. Indian<br />
Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Association along with IAPMO did a<br />
great job by publish<strong>in</strong>g Uniform Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Codes<br />
and review<strong>in</strong>g them after a fixed period. These<br />
<strong>co</strong>des along with illustrations and guidel<strong>in</strong>es<br />
can be very helpful <strong>in</strong> the plumb<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>dustry, if<br />
properly followed.<br />
In your view, how can plann<strong>in</strong>g and architecture<br />
aid to smooth plumb<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>stallations?<br />
This is a very important aspect for a project<br />
for achiev<strong>in</strong>g good plumb<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>stallation. An<br />
architect & plumb<strong>in</strong>g designer should sit down<br />
together from the <strong>co</strong>ncept stage of the project<br />
so that, proper <strong>co</strong>-ord<strong>in</strong>ation is done from the<br />
beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g for provid<strong>in</strong>g sufficient space and size<br />
of the shaft, for do<strong>in</strong>g proper structural plann<strong>in</strong>g<br />
ac<strong>co</strong>rd<strong>in</strong>gly and <strong>co</strong>-ord<strong>in</strong>ation with other services<br />
so that there are no h<strong>in</strong>drances / <strong>co</strong>mpromises <strong>in</strong><br />
future <strong>in</strong> implement<strong>in</strong>g the scheme.<br />
Please share with us your journey <strong>in</strong> the IPA <strong>in</strong><br />
brief.<br />
S<strong>in</strong>ce the very beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g, when Shri S.G. Deolalikar<br />
ji thought of form<strong>in</strong>g Indian Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Association<br />
with like-m<strong>in</strong>ded people <strong>in</strong> 1993, I had tried to<br />
associate myself with the activities <strong>in</strong> one way or<br />
another, though I was not an active member <strong>in</strong><br />
the beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g. However, it was <strong>in</strong> 2007, that Shri<br />
C.S. Gupta ji and his team members approached<br />
me to take the responsibility of the Chairman of<br />
IPA-Delhi Chapter. From that time, I have been<br />
very actively <strong>in</strong>volved <strong>in</strong> various activities of IPA<br />
<strong>in</strong> this region. This shall be my third tenure as<br />
Chairman of IPA-Delhi Chapter with the dedicated<br />
<strong>co</strong>mmittee-members to br<strong>in</strong>g the chapter to the<br />
highest level among all the other chapters.<br />
As Chairman of Indian Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Association’s<br />
Delhi Chapter, please share with our readers<br />
about the vast activities that are undertaken and<br />
the chapter’s growth.<br />
As Chairman of Indian Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Association’s<br />
Delhi Chapter, follow<strong>in</strong>g are some of the<br />
highlights:<br />
• Till date, IPA-DC has grown to 327 members.<br />
• 20 Sem<strong>in</strong>ars/ Events have been organized till<br />
date <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g 15th IPC.<br />
• IPADC won ‘Best Performance Award’ <strong>in</strong> 2009-10.<br />
How do you see IPA five years from now?<br />
If, all of us, as like-m<strong>in</strong>ded people keep work<strong>in</strong>g<br />
with the same current enthusiasm, motivation<br />
and selfless goal, I can say undoubtedly, IPA <strong>co</strong>uld<br />
be<strong>co</strong>me the strongest fraternity <strong>in</strong> the plumb<strong>in</strong>g<br />
field and its name will not only be re<strong>co</strong>gnized<br />
<strong>in</strong> India, but also at the <strong>in</strong>ternational level, as we<br />
have very capable leaders and work<strong>in</strong>g members.<br />
With Mr. S G Deolalikar dur<strong>in</strong>g Indian Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Conference at New Delhi<br />
What, ac<strong>co</strong>rd<strong>in</strong>g to you, should be the thrust<br />
area for IPA, now on?<br />
Implementation of already framed <strong>co</strong>des, tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />
and awareness <strong>in</strong> various parts of India and not<br />
<strong>co</strong>ncentrat<strong>in</strong>g only on a few cities.<br />
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What are your views about skill development<br />
for better plumb<strong>in</strong>g practices <strong>in</strong> the <strong>co</strong>untry?<br />
This is a very crucial factor for do<strong>in</strong>g good<br />
plumb<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>stallation especially <strong>in</strong> our <strong>co</strong>untry.<br />
At present, we are very very short of skilled<br />
manpower <strong>in</strong> plumb<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>dustry. Most of the<br />
people are do<strong>in</strong>g their job <strong>in</strong> plumb<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> their own<br />
way and <strong>in</strong> a very unorganized manner, whether<br />
they are designers, manufacturers or <strong>co</strong>ntractors.<br />
For example, anybody without proper tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />
and education be<strong>co</strong>mes a plumber, just by hold<strong>in</strong>g<br />
a wrench <strong>in</strong> his hand for few months. This needs<br />
to be checked very strictly and therefore, we have<br />
to provide the tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g and certificate <strong>co</strong>urses all<br />
over India at various levels.<br />
How do you perceive the significance of World<br />
Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Day with respect to the Indian <strong>co</strong>ntext?<br />
As already expla<strong>in</strong>ed, the World Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Day<br />
has be<strong>co</strong>me extremely significant, especially<br />
<strong>in</strong> the Indian <strong>co</strong>ntext, where so many people<br />
are deprived of good sanitation facilities. This<br />
will def<strong>in</strong>itely spread the awareness for good<br />
plumb<strong>in</strong>g among the people and hence, improve<br />
the health of citizens of India and the e<strong>co</strong>nomy<br />
will automatically have positive impact.<br />
With IPA host<strong>in</strong>g the 10th World Plumb<strong>in</strong>g<br />
Conference this November, it will be creat<strong>in</strong>g<br />
yet another milestone <strong>in</strong> its achievements. How<br />
is the IPA prepar<strong>in</strong>g to create a dist<strong>in</strong>ct mark<br />
and impact with the same?<br />
I th<strong>in</strong>k IPA is prepar<strong>in</strong>g to host the 10th World<br />
Plumb<strong>in</strong>g Conference <strong>in</strong> November at New Delhi<br />
<strong>in</strong> a very meticulous, systematic and excit<strong>in</strong>g<br />
way! India is already famous for its hospitality.<br />
However, be<strong>in</strong>g one of the members of the Steer<strong>in</strong>g<br />
Committee, I can emphatically say that, under the<br />
leadership of our President, IPA is mak<strong>in</strong>g its full<br />
efforts to make this event a very successful and<br />
mega one, whether it is the matter of speakers,<br />
topics of various sessions, cultural programs or<br />
hospitality to the partners. God will<strong>in</strong>g, this should<br />
be a landmark event <strong>in</strong> plumb<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>dustry of India.<br />
You have dual responsibilities as far as WPC<br />
2013 is <strong>co</strong>ncerned – as a member of Steer<strong>in</strong>g<br />
Committee and as Chairman of Host Chapter.<br />
How have you and your team at IPADC geared<br />
up to make it a mega and memorable event?<br />
Under the umbrella of IPA Delhi Chapter, we have<br />
formed the follow<strong>in</strong>g <strong>co</strong>mmittees to assist and to<br />
provide <strong>co</strong>ntribution to the event:<br />
a) Reception & Registration Committee - Headed<br />
by Mr S. K. Duggal<br />
b) Hospitality & F&B Committee - Headed by<br />
Mr B. P. Gupta<br />
c) Logistics & Stage Control Committee – Headed<br />
by Mr Manish Ja<strong>in</strong><br />
Besides this, I will be <strong>in</strong>teract<strong>in</strong>g with other<br />
<strong>co</strong>lleagues, and try to provide assistance for<br />
whatever best can be done.<br />
How do you rate IPT as a platform for<br />
dissem<strong>in</strong>ation of <strong>in</strong>formation amongst the<br />
plumb<strong>in</strong>g professionals?<br />
This is a highly rated magaz<strong>in</strong>e and as per the<br />
previous re<strong>co</strong>rd, people look forward for every<br />
issue as it provides great <strong>in</strong>formation.<br />
As one of the members of Editorial Board of IPT,<br />
what changes do you perceive and plan to br<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong><br />
to make the magaz<strong>in</strong>e even more reader-friendly?<br />
We are try<strong>in</strong>g to get more and more professional<br />
people <strong>in</strong>volved by <strong>co</strong>ntribut<strong>in</strong>g their experience,<br />
technical knowledge, etc. Recently we have formed<br />
an IPT Round Table <strong>in</strong> which, we are plann<strong>in</strong>g<br />
to send sets of technical questions on prevail<strong>in</strong>g<br />
problems to experienced members <strong>in</strong> the relative<br />
fields so that we can get their feedback and publish<br />
them <strong>in</strong> the form of articles <strong>in</strong> IPT.<br />
With his wife Mrs. Nirmal Gupta at VIEGA Factory <strong>in</strong> Germany<br />
What message would you like to <strong>co</strong>nvey to the<br />
members of the plumb<strong>in</strong>g fraternity, through<br />
this <strong><strong>in</strong>teraction</strong> with IPT?<br />
Please jo<strong>in</strong> us whole-heartedly and support our<br />
fraternity selflessly to be able to project the idea<br />
everywhere of good plumb<strong>in</strong>g, good plumb<strong>in</strong>g<br />
and good plumb<strong>in</strong>g! IPT<br />
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