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NEW MAGIC<br />

THE EMERGENCE<br />

OF A CONTEMPORARY ART<br />

“All of our research can be helpful to art”<br />

Let’s travel to India to find street magicians, collaborations with philosophers, ethnologists, searches through<br />

old archives, work on current technologies... new magic can lead to all different kinds of studies.<br />

Stradda: New magic is also<br />

interested in the humanities.<br />

Can you tell us about your<br />

areas of research<br />

Raphaël Navarro: A first<br />

section concerns research<br />

techniques, which include several<br />

components. The historical<br />

field – based on the means by<br />

which magic was conceived in<br />

relation to different time periods<br />

and geographic zones, notably<br />

in search of forgotten thought<br />

patterns – is coupled with an<br />

ethnological and anthropological<br />

aspect, in collaboration with<br />

Valentine Losseau, (doctoral<br />

student at the laboratory of<br />

social anthropology at the<br />

Collège de France), a scholar<br />

in constant contact with new<br />

magic. She carries out studies in<br />

the field with Lacandon Mayas<br />

in Mexico. The question of<br />

magic in different parts of the<br />

world – whether its function is<br />

religious, pre-scientific, esoteric<br />

or traditional – is for us a crucial<br />

element of understanding the<br />

role of perception of the real.<br />

Could you describe for us your<br />

fieldwork on traditional magic<br />

R.N.: Our movement also<br />

works to build bridges between<br />

modern Western magic and<br />

traditional forms of magic. For<br />

example, India is a case in point:<br />

traditional street magicians<br />

represent a separate caste.<br />

We conduct on-site research<br />

regarding lost or forgotten tricks,<br />

not only to give them back to<br />

the magic community, but also<br />

to understand the elements<br />

behind these tricks and what<br />

kind of symbols they put into<br />

use. Yearly trips are made to<br />

India, to which we invite modern<br />

French magicians in collaboration<br />

with the Fédération française<br />

des artistes prestidigitateurs.<br />

Conferences are also organised<br />

in France to encourage exchange<br />

between the network of<br />

subsidised performance spaces<br />

and artists from variety shows<br />

or traditional magic, who do not<br />

know each other. For example,<br />

in 2008, such a gathering was<br />

organized near Paris at the<br />

Chaufferie of the Compagnie DCA<br />

– Philippe Decouflé.<br />

Are these field activities<br />

accompanied by academic<br />

research<br />

R.N.: We do draw from the<br />

philosophy and history of<br />

religions through exchange with<br />

scholars like Xavier Papaïs, a<br />

lecturer at the École Normale<br />

Supérieure, or Jean-Pierre<br />

Warnier, co-founder of the group<br />

of researchers Matière à penser.<br />

The academic network is essential<br />

for us. The erudite points of<br />

view that develop there put forth<br />

aesthetic or social proposals that<br />

can nourish art.<br />

Is there another study section<br />

for different techniques...<br />

R.N.: We work on the history<br />

of techniques, both magic<br />

– by looking at old engravings,<br />

theatrical machinery or optical<br />

principles – and mechanical,<br />

in the nautical domain, for<br />

example. The resurgence of all<br />

of these forgotten procedures<br />

since the arrival of motors or<br />

of electricity add to the current<br />

experiments – on new material<br />

or new technologies – to perfect<br />

innovative magic techniques.<br />

We are thus in partnership with<br />

many state-of-the-art companies<br />

for the first aspects, and we are<br />

creating software for the second.<br />

Would you say that you are<br />

trying to outline the perception<br />

of the real by multiple entry<br />

points so as to better divert it<br />

R.N.: These various experiments<br />

are inspired, lastly, by research<br />

on the workings of perception<br />

of the real from a mental and<br />

physiological point of view:<br />

brain activity, memory, social<br />

psychology, psychoanalysis... We<br />

thus open pathways alongside<br />

ethology (the study of animal<br />

behaviour) to try to understand<br />

if magic is an innate principle<br />

of life – since animals use<br />

techniques of illusion and<br />

mimicry in both the hunt and<br />

seduction – or to know if<br />

animals might have some kind<br />

of perception of the surreal. All<br />

of this research can be helpful to<br />

art; these domains are still very<br />

airtight, but they have a lot to<br />

offer each other.<br />

How is the research formalised<br />

R.N.: The transmission takes<br />

place through training and public<br />

events: conferences, seminars,<br />

exhibits...<br />

We also carry out legal work<br />

with the jurist and magician<br />

Guilhem Julia, aiming to propose<br />

copyright laws for magic. In the<br />

end, we would like to create a<br />

research centre for new magic.<br />

Because aside from being a<br />

creative movement, it is truly an<br />

independent artistic principle:<br />

a motor that is becoming the<br />

vector of different expressions,<br />

aesthetics, or even techniques<br />

regarding the arts, carried out by<br />

many artists and companies.<br />

★ TEXT COMPILED BY J.B.<br />

dossier from stradda #16 / page 7

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