FALL/HARVEST ISSUE NO. 65 SEPTEMBER 2013 - St Paul's ...
FALL/HARVEST ISSUE NO. 65 SEPTEMBER 2013 - St Paul's ...
FALL/HARVEST ISSUE NO. 65 SEPTEMBER 2013 - St Paul's ...
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CONGREGATIONAL MEETING (Adapted) JULY 14, <strong>2013</strong><br />
OPENING PRAYER – The Reverend Bob Hartley gave the opening prayer.<br />
WELCOME TO ALL – At 11:10 a.m. Warden Dave Golding welcomed the 63 people in attendance. Mr. Golding referred to the<br />
challenge made in the Vision <strong>St</strong>atement to “Know Jesus and Make Him Known”. The purpose of the meeting was to inform the<br />
congregation of the financial situation that <strong>St</strong>. Paul’s is facing at the moment.<br />
REVIEW OF THE LETTER SENT TO THE PARISH MEMBERS – Mr. Golding noted that <strong>St</strong>. Paul’s has been dealing with a number of<br />
challenges, both spiritually and physically this past year. He accepted that there has been a lack of due diligence and protocol carried<br />
out in certain situations. He mentioned that the Youth Ministry should be continued and that part-time positions to support seniors and<br />
children in the parish would be welcomed and needed ministries. These ministries could be initially financed using seed money from<br />
the Diocese but we would have to grow our revenues to continue them in future years. In 2002, <strong>St</strong>. Paul’s understood that they would<br />
receive a grant of $30,000 for the Youth programme for <strong>2013</strong> and we received $10,000.00 of that at that time. We thought that we only<br />
needed to reapply in <strong>2013</strong> for the additional $20,000.00. The Reverend Warren Leibovitch put in an application for $187,000.00 in early<br />
May before he left on his Sabbatical. This was to cover the salaries of a full-time Youth Pastor plus a Children’s coordinator and a<br />
senior’s Pastor. We were turned down “carte blanche”. Dave Golding asked the question: How do we fund the Youth pastor for 1014 -<br />
2015 The Warden met with Bishop Linda Nicholls who said that <strong>St</strong>. Paul’s needs to prove more sustainability for the future years.<br />
OUR SOLUTIONS TO FUND YOUTH MINISTRY FOR <strong>2013</strong><br />
(a) Increased givings-raise by $1.00 each week would equal $12,000.00 and meet our obligation to Dave Edney.<br />
(b) Grown the church. There has not been an increase in the number of families.<br />
Youth programme, a Christian-driven Outreach programme, is bringing in kids-teenagers.<br />
(c) Gift cards—more usage required.<br />
(d) PAR—need more support of the programme<br />
ADDITIONAL WAYS<br />
(a) New service—bring next generation in to the church<br />
(b) Bishop Linda advised that our application for a 2014 grant be submitted.<br />
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QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS<br />
Harold Brown: How is this shortfall going to be funded Will it deplete our cash-in-hand Answer: Dave Golding: The Wardens do not<br />
intend to touch our investments this year. If that is required a Special Vestry must be held. Harold Brown: 3 areas where there is<br />
money that we could use. 1. Music Fund—no Music Director since Arlene’s resignation<br />
2. Rector’s discretionary Fund-Rector on Sabbatical leave—not using Fund<br />
3. Planned purchase of audio visual equipment-church cannot afford this now<br />
Answer: 1. Part of music allocation is now being used to bring in organists each Sunday<br />
2. Rector’s Discretionary Fund is simply that – at the behest of the Rector<br />
3. There are no audiovisual funds set aside at the present time. Purchase of equipment would have to be budgeted or raised.<br />
Don Tansey: Squeeze more money out of the parishioners. Increase the congregation with special services. Give more support to<br />
the Youth Pastor. Answer – Frank Mills: We are working on a service tailored for the under 40 crowd. There is a need for it. Many<br />
younger people find the church intimidating.<br />
Garnet Powell: <strong>St</strong>. Paul’s hit a low point in the 70’s. Ernie Lowen was Rector and there were many structural problems to deal with. A<br />
Talent Fund was started which instigated such events as the Pancake Supper, Fair Food Booth, <strong>St</strong>rawberry Supper and more. With<br />
regard to the letter sent to the congregation it was too bad that the children’s programme had been shelved—was this due to a lack of<br />
funding The good news was that the Diocese turned down the request for $187,000.00. We cannot afford these programmes. I<br />
suggest that we consider a part-time senior’s ministry like that in place years ago—2 days a week—to be started ASAP.<br />
Paul Carpentier: I concur with Garnett’s statements. We cannot sustain these programmes and also we need to be invested in any<br />
programmes not just rely on a hand-out from the Diocese. We need to be realistic—do we really need these positions We need good<br />
budgeting practices.<br />
Brenda O’Keefe: We are a congregation of seniors. I will donate a diamond ring to help cover costs. Dave Golding: Thank you<br />
Brenda—that won’t be necessary.<br />
Bob Whitfield: We need to be tapping in to the many newly retired people coming to Lindsay. These are folks in their early sixties.<br />
Gina Coleman: We need more transparency with regard to our finances. We should not make commitments that we cannot pay for.<br />
The money needs to be there (i.e. grants) before we start programmes and hire new staff. There needs to be due diligence and we<br />
require a Finance Committee to oversee our expenditures.<br />
<strong>St</strong>. Paul’s Anglican Church, Lindsay, ON 705-324-4666 office-st-pauls-lindsay.ca www.st-pauls-lindsay.ca 6