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DIRECTOR Q&A<br />

Anurag Kashyap<br />

India’s iconoclastic helmer discusses epic Cannes entry, challenging<br />

<strong>the</strong> status quo and his upcoming collaboration with Danny Boyle<br />

By Nyay Bhushan<br />

WHILE HE HAS BEEN RISING<br />

steadily in India with his own<br />

brand of unconventional cinema<br />

— starting out as a writer with <strong>the</strong> 1993<br />

hit Satya — Anurag Kashyap, 39, is �nally<br />

having a breakout year with two of his �lms<br />

in <strong>the</strong> o�cial Cannes lineup. As a direc<strong>to</strong>r,<br />

his two-part drama Gangs of Wasseypur<br />

features in <strong>the</strong> Direc<strong>to</strong>rs’ Fortnight, while<br />

Peddlers, which he co-produced via his<br />

AKFPL banner, unspools in <strong>the</strong> Critics’<br />

Week sidebar. Not bad for someone whose<br />

direc<strong>to</strong>rial debut, 2003’s edgy youth drama<br />

Paanch (Five), has still not been released<br />

because of censorship concerns. <strong>The</strong> direc<strong>to</strong>r<br />

recently talked with <strong>The</strong> <strong>Hollywood</strong><br />

<strong>Reporter</strong> about �ghting <strong>the</strong> establishment.<br />

What is Gangs of Wasseypur about?<br />

It is a �lm spanning six decades, from<br />

1941 <strong>to</strong> 2009, and set on <strong>the</strong> lower rungs of<br />

<strong>the</strong> ma�a (in India’s eastern hinterlands).<br />

Through <strong>the</strong> (characters) we learn <strong>the</strong><br />

his<strong>to</strong>ry of that place. <strong>The</strong>y are not very<br />

educated and are <strong>to</strong>tally obsessed with<br />

Bollywood stars who inspire <strong>the</strong>ir lives. It is<br />

about his<strong>to</strong>ry, social issues, but it is also a<br />

revenge drama. It was di�cult <strong>to</strong> �nd funding<br />

since nobody could understand what<br />

I wanted <strong>to</strong> do and why I wanted <strong>to</strong> make<br />

such a long �lm. <strong>The</strong> challenge was <strong>to</strong> make<br />

it in two parts that are independent of each<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r, yet still create a complete s<strong>to</strong>ry.<br />

How do you see your entries at Cannes<br />

validating what you’ve been striving <strong>to</strong><br />

do in India?<br />

If you get validation from outside, <strong>the</strong>n<br />

suddenly everything you do at home is<br />

justi�ed. We are brought up in a way<br />

where we do what our fa<strong>the</strong>rs do. You are<br />

not expected <strong>to</strong> rock <strong>the</strong> boat, you don’t<br />

change <strong>the</strong> status quo, especially in �lms,<br />

which have been traditionally controlled by<br />

a handful of people, actually �lm families.<br />

Outsiders are not supposed <strong>to</strong> change anything.<br />

I can’t complain about that, but now<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is change happening. <strong>The</strong> young �lmmakers<br />

really don’t give a damn about <strong>the</strong><br />

establishment. <strong>The</strong>y want <strong>to</strong> do <strong>the</strong>ir own<br />

thing, <strong>the</strong>y are not star-struck, especially<br />

if you see <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r Indian �lms at Cannes<br />

[direc<strong>to</strong>r Ashim Ahluwalia’s Un Certain<br />

Regard entry Miss Lovely and Vasan Bala’s<br />

Peddlers]. I still have one foot in Bollywood<br />

(<strong>the</strong> mainstream Hindi industry),<br />

but <strong>the</strong>se guys are <strong>to</strong>tally independent of<br />

that. <strong>The</strong>y worked hard for years <strong>to</strong> get<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir �lms made independently. My �lm is<br />

still funded by a studio [Viacom18 Motion<br />

Pictures]. My responsibility is now only <strong>to</strong><br />

Vital Stats<br />

Nationality India<br />

Born September 10, 1972<br />

Film in Cannes Gangs of Wasseypur<br />

Selected Filmography<br />

That Girl in Yellow Boots,<br />

Mumbai Cutting, Udaan<br />

Notable Awards<br />

2011 Filmfare Award for best screenplay: Udaan<br />

21<br />

my kind of cinema, but <strong>the</strong>se new direc<strong>to</strong>rs<br />

will do more <strong>to</strong> change Indian cinema since<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir �lms are very fearless.<br />

So you don’t think Gangs of Wasseypur is<br />

fearless?<br />

It is fearless only in its cost and casting [as<br />

it has mostly non-marquee but great ac<strong>to</strong>rs,<br />

like Manoj Bajpai]. In terms of s<strong>to</strong>rytelling,<br />

it is entertaining and mainstream, but not<br />

that fearless. It is not a Bollywood �lm, but<br />

about a place that is impacted by Bollywood,<br />

so it makes it commercial. <strong>The</strong> West<br />

sometimes doesn’t understand Bollywood,<br />

but <strong>the</strong>y can de�nitely understand how Bollywood<br />

in�uences people.<br />

What is your agenda at Cannes?<br />

We want <strong>to</strong> reach out <strong>to</strong> as many people<br />

as possible and try and sell our �lms as<br />

widely as possible. We want <strong>to</strong> expand our<br />

audience — that’s my main agenda. [Parisbased<br />

international sales agent] Elle<br />

Driver has taken on Gangs of Wasseypur<br />

and Peddlers, and we are working closely<br />

with <strong>the</strong>m [via Kashyap’s banner AKFPL]<br />

<strong>to</strong> expand <strong>the</strong> market for <strong>the</strong>se �lms.<br />

One of your upcoming projects is Bombay<br />

Velvet starring <strong>to</strong>p Bollywood star Ranbir<br />

Kapoor. How are you exploring uncharted<br />

waters with that?<br />

It is not an o�eat �lm, but for me<br />

Bombay Velvet is one that rede�nes <strong>the</strong><br />

mainstream. It’s a love s<strong>to</strong>ry set in 1960s<br />

Mumbai, showing <strong>the</strong> changing face of <strong>the</strong><br />

city, <strong>the</strong> subculture and <strong>the</strong> jazz age. It’s a<br />

�ctional take on actual events. It’s a �lm<br />

noir in <strong>the</strong> jazz underworld.<br />

Wasn’t Danny Boyle involved with Bombay<br />

Velvet? Your connection with him goes back <strong>to</strong><br />

Slumdog Millionaire, for which he extensively<br />

referred <strong>to</strong> your 2004 film Black Friday.<br />

In spirit, Danny Boyle is with Bombay<br />

Velvet, but details as <strong>to</strong> what kind of participation<br />

he will have are still <strong>to</strong> be �nalized<br />

later with <strong>the</strong> studio [Viacom18 Motion Pictures].<br />

Danny is always backing me. I keep<br />

bouncing Bombay Velvet stu� o� of him.<br />

How do you see an unconventional direc<strong>to</strong>r<br />

like you working with a mainstream star like<br />

Ranbir. Is <strong>the</strong>re a conflict in sensibilities?<br />

I don’t think so. Today <strong>the</strong>re is a new crop<br />

of mainstream ac<strong>to</strong>rs like Ranbir Kapoor,<br />

Ranveer Singh and Arjun Kapoor, who are<br />

of a di�erent sensibility. I think <strong>the</strong> Internet<br />

has changed <strong>the</strong> world. Even in <strong>Hollywood</strong>,<br />

direc<strong>to</strong>rs such as <strong>the</strong> Coen bro<strong>the</strong>rs,<br />

Chris Nolan and David Fincher were all<br />

considered experimental. And now <strong>the</strong>y are<br />

<strong>the</strong> ones <strong>to</strong>tally rede�ning <strong>the</strong> mainstream.<br />

I mean <strong>The</strong> Dark Knight is a really good<br />

movie that reached both critics and mainstream<br />

audiences. In Indian cinema that is<br />

missing, but now it is changing. THR<br />

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