Park PeopleQ LinesRoland MackThe Mack family lives,sleeps and breathes theamusement industry. Asmanaging direc<strong>to</strong>r ofEuropa-Park, Roland Mackoversees Germany’slargest theme park,working alongside hisbrother Jürgen and sonsThomas and Michael at theBlack Forest businessfounded with his fatherFranz back in 1975. Yetthe family’s roots in thebusiness go back muchfurther than that, <strong>to</strong> 1780when it started buildingwagons for travellingshowmen. Later itprogressed <strong>to</strong>manufacturing rides and<strong>to</strong>day Mack’s qualityproducts can be found intheme parks across theglobe. A founding memberof the German tradeassociation VDFU, RolandMack has also receivedwider recognition, pickingup his country’sBundesverdienstkreuz amBande (Federal ServiceCross) and the title"Chevalier de la Legiond´Honneur" from Frenchpresident Nicolas Sarkozy.As he prepares <strong>to</strong> becomethe first ever Germanchairman of IAAPA, Rolandreflects on the associationand the state of theindustry with Owen RalphMack Rides’ Bluefire atEuropa-ParkHow will you manage the role of IAAPAchairman alongside your commitments atEuropa-Park?It’s a challenge, but I have my two sons in the businessnow and it was my plan <strong>to</strong> take this role if elected.Maybe six years ago it would have been <strong>to</strong>o early, butnow the time is right and it will give my boys thechance <strong>to</strong> take a little more responsibility within thecompany, while I can become even more international.I am proud <strong>to</strong> be the first German coming in<strong>to</strong> thechair, and I hope I will not be the last!What are your goals for the coming year atIAAPA?I think we have a lot of issues in common. Park visi<strong>to</strong>rsare becoming more demanding because they have abig understanding of quality, they are travelling aroundand they see a lot and compare. I think we have <strong>to</strong>acknowledge these demands and satisfy them.The influence of computers and other electronicdevices is something we must consider, and you neverknow they will impact our industry in the future.However, 20 years ago we were talking aboutcomputers and television, and really they are not a bigcompeti<strong>to</strong>r <strong>to</strong> a real experience on a rollercoaster, aride, or a show. People want <strong>to</strong> have joy <strong>to</strong>gether.The recession has affected our industry, at least inthe Western world, and some big companies arefacing major challenges. I think in these circumstancesour association has a role <strong>to</strong> play as an informationexchange, so you can learn about developments andbest practice in other parts of the world.In Europe, the VAT [value added tax] is so diverse.That’s a big, big issue, especially if you are locatednear the border like Europa-Park. In France theysucceeded <strong>to</strong>gether with Disney in convincing thegovernment <strong>to</strong> keep the low 5.5% rate for, I haveheard, another 15 years. We are working with 19% inGermany, but could reduce the price admission atEuropa-Park by €5 if we had the same VAT as France.What are the prospects for growth inEurope?I think there are some opportunities for new parks inthe Eastern European countries. For Germany, and Iwould say a lot of other locations in Europe, most ofthe big markets are already catered for, so you need <strong>to</strong>work with what you’ve got. Families are looking for analternative <strong>to</strong> longer holidays and every park, exceptmaybe the coastal parks, could gain from adding shortbreak accommodation. Corporate business is gettingmore important. We host 1,200 events each year a<strong>to</strong>ur park and a lot of those are corporate events. Youalso have <strong>to</strong> look at how much you offer for cus<strong>to</strong>mersin poor weather, at least in Northern Europe.What progress has been made by IAAPA’snew office in Hong Kong?We have a good man there [Andrew Lee]. The tradeshows are successful and you can see a real appetitefor parks in the Far East. I have a close relationshipwith several Chinese parks, they are always visitingEuropa-Park, and I think they are getting a feel for theindustry in a much shorter time than we did. There’s areal demand for industry know-how, and that isanother reason <strong>to</strong> be present in Asia.How does IAAPA keep trade shows andconventions relevant in an age when you can“see it all on the internet”?The internet makes people curious, they know verysoon what is going on, but they also want <strong>to</strong> see thingsin real life. When you are selling rides, you have <strong>to</strong>talk <strong>to</strong> people. Clients have so many questions andspecial requirements and you can’t deal with that overthe internet, or even the telephone. What we can see isthat the big groups are not sending as many people asbefore, and I think this is because of the <strong>to</strong>ugheconomy. They are sending just the engineers ortechnical guys rather than individual managers.It’s not only about meeting ride manufacturersthough. I think the opportunity <strong>to</strong> come <strong>to</strong>gether withpeople from all over the world, <strong>to</strong> visit parks, go <strong>to</strong>seminars, that’s what it’s all about and that’s why Idon’t see a big risk for the trade shows.How much of an issue for ride manufacturersis copying of intellectual property?It’s something we are discussing very heavily withinIAAPA, and we are taking steps <strong>to</strong> prevent it. We canremove exhibi<strong>to</strong>rs from the trade shows if required. Ifthey are using pictures of your rides in theircatalogues, then really that is a little <strong>to</strong>o much!It’s a big issue for us at Mack Rides, particularly withthe Chinese companies. I really don’t know what’sgoing <strong>to</strong> happen, but I was talking <strong>to</strong> my engineersand I think we have still have a chance. It’s a reallyspecialised industry and you need a lot of experience<strong>to</strong> make rides work properly. We are in some ways apro<strong>to</strong>type industry and that always gives a goodchance <strong>to</strong> the innova<strong>to</strong>rs. That is why we do not havemany huge companies as competi<strong>to</strong>rs; they would notbe able <strong>to</strong> succeed with new ideas every one <strong>to</strong> twoyears and such small numbers of rides.How does a family-owned operation such asEuropa-Park successfully compete againstcorporate parks?Maybe by being in the park every day, not so much inthe office, and acting a little faster when you havegood ideas. The biggest problem with a familybusiness is if you want <strong>to</strong> develop things and your kidsdo not want <strong>to</strong> be in the business – luckily mine do.That is when the big companies jump in and take over.That’s kind of sad, but that’s how it is.36NOVEMBER 2011
www.parkworld-online.comPark PeopleAre there enough talented young peoplecoming in<strong>to</strong> the industry?I think you have some educated, energetic young kidsthat have the opportunity <strong>to</strong> look around theexhibitions and work in other parks worldwide. Mysons did this, they have been in America, Australia,Italy, Spain and Scandinavia. When I was young it wasmore difficult. So there are a lot of talented people,they do things differently <strong>to</strong> how we did them, but ifthey concentrate on the key issues – service and quality– then they can push the industry forwards.Do you expect much more industryconsolidation in Europe?Last year Plopsa bought Holiday Park, and in the middleof Germany Fort Fun was sold some years ago <strong>to</strong>Compagnie des Alpes. However I think the parks have<strong>to</strong> be a certain size <strong>to</strong> be of interest <strong>to</strong> the bigcompanies. In Germany there is Phantasialand, Europa-Park, Hansa Park and Tripsdrill, where the family is veryheavily involved, so I do not see much happening soon.In Great Britain many of the big parks are alreadyowned by Merlin. There was the big deal a few yearsago with Walibi and Compagnie des Alpes, but recentlythey sold some of their smaller parks. Parques Reunidosis always talking about selling its business. So maybe,like in America with Six Flags, things will go backwardsand there will be a chance of former family businessesgoing back in<strong>to</strong> family ownership.Speaking at Euro Attractions Show inLondon, Merlin Entertainments’ Nick Varneyremarked that European theme parks areunder priced (see page 42). Do you agree?He is right if he compares theme parks <strong>to</strong> other kindsof attractions, and it is true that we priceconservatively. We all need money <strong>to</strong> development ourbusinesses, however sometimes there is a gap betweenthis thinking and Merlin’s price strategy. If Merlin isselling annual passes [in Germany] that let you visit 15attractions for nearly a third of a Europa-Park annualpass, then maybe Nick should start with his ownprices! It was interesting <strong>to</strong> hear he wants <strong>to</strong> makeHeide Park the market leader, and I am happy <strong>to</strong> takeon this challenge, but I do not want <strong>to</strong> be the biggestpark in Germany by reducing prices.What park or attraction has most inspiredyou during your travels in the last year?I like very much Legoland’s idea <strong>to</strong> build a submarineride [at Legoland Windsor], not only because they used aMack Rides system, but because it is a new development.Disney was doing it years ago with animatronics, but nowit is done with real animals. I think that is reallyinteresting.The development of Chimelong in China is fascinating.They are doing almost 8 million visi<strong>to</strong>rs in Guangzhouwith a waterpark, animal park, ride park, hotels andconference centre. I was so impressed with the qualityand what they’ve done in such a short amount of time –and it’s done by a family. Now they are doing a resortpark with animals across from Macau [in Zhuhai]. I willbe very interested <strong>to</strong> see that when it’s finished.What can the attractions industry learn fromother industries?Maybe we could improve government relationsbecause every park needs infrastructure and you can’tdo infrastructure without lobbying the government. Ifyou look at the car industry in Germany, they aremuch better organised. Overall I think we do betterthan many other industries in combining our effortsthough, and 90% of the global players are membersof the association.“In Europe,the VAT is sodiverse. That’sa big, bigissue,especially ifyou arelocated nearthe border. Wecould reducethe priceadmission atEuropa-Parkby ¤5 if wehad the sameVAT asFrance”Roland Mack at Europa-Park with astatue of his late father FranzEuropa-Park plansWhat’s new at Europa-Park for the next 18 months?Already announced are plans for a major woodencoaster next spring courtesy of Great CoastersInternational. Then, in the summer, the Europa-ParkResort will launch its fifth hotel, the New England themedBell Rock (as pictured). “Maybe we will get anopportunity <strong>to</strong> use the hotel in some way for the IAAPAdirec<strong>to</strong>rs’ meeting in June,” says Roland Mack.The park’s managing direc<strong>to</strong>r can also provide a hin<strong>to</strong>f what’s in s<strong>to</strong>re for 2013:“We have startedconstruction of a newfairytale themed area in cooperationwith a big moviestar from France,” he tellsPark World. “This willfeature a completely newride development of theMack company.“www.europa-park.deNOVEMBER 201137