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Question and Answer: Colombian<br />

Foundation for Freedom of the <strong>Press</strong><br />

Interview with María Teresa<br />

Ronderos – Foundation for<br />

Freedom of the <strong>Press</strong><br />

Interview by Mariela Hoyer Guerrero<br />

María Teresa Ronderos is the<br />

president of the Colombian Foundation<br />

for Freedom of the <strong>Press</strong> (FLIP) and a<br />

teacher at the Foundation for the Ibero-<br />

American New Journalism (FNPI). She is<br />

also a consulting editor for Semana, a<br />

prestigious economic and political magazine,<br />

which reported on the illegal wiretapping<br />

of politicians and journalists between<br />

2004 and 2009, carried out by the<br />

Colombian government’s national intelligence<br />

agency (DAS).<br />

Ronderos answers questions from IPI<br />

about press freedom under the government<br />

of former President Álvaro Uribe, and<br />

comments on her expectations about his<br />

successor, President Juan Manuel Santos.<br />

What is the main enemy of press freedom<br />

in Colombia?<br />

Drug trafficking and politicians associated<br />

with this crime are still the main enemy.<br />

On one side, we find these politicians trying<br />

to cover up their alliances with drug<br />

traffickers, and on the other, journalists uncovering<br />

these links. As politicians have to<br />

preserve their power and names, journalists<br />

must be silenced. In addition, a very<br />

damaging phenomenon has emerged in<br />

Colombia that affects democracy: illegal<br />

wire- tapping and threats by agents of the<br />

state, particularly the DAS, towards judges<br />

and journalists.<br />

Was the DAS wire-tapping case unique<br />

in the region? Had it been seen before?<br />

It had been seen before in many countries.<br />

The difference is that now it happened<br />

under a democratic regime, and we have<br />

been able to find out about it in detail. It is<br />

not the first time that this has occurred in<br />

Colombia. In fact, there have been complaints<br />

since the 1980s about state agents<br />

intimidating or persecuting journalists,<br />

but these had never been confirmed<br />

through official state documents. This<br />

time the scandal was so great, and the<br />

work of the press was so accurate, that<br />

everything was uncovered.<br />

How do you evaluate the investigation?<br />

It is advancing, and there have been some<br />

sanctions, but I think it's going slowly. The<br />

Prosecutor’s Office and the Attorney General’s<br />

Office are only going to determine<br />

the responsibility of some public officials,<br />

but what is unclear, and what will be very<br />

difficult to know, is whether President Álvaro<br />

Uribe ordered or knew about the illegal<br />

interceptions, because the president<br />

can only be judged by a special Congress’<br />

Commission. He has the political responsibility,<br />

because he was the head of state<br />

when it happened, but it is difficult to determine<br />

criminal liability. He has continually<br />

denied it. The commission opened an<br />

investigation, but these investigations are<br />

notoriously unreliable because they have<br />

a huge political bias, since the commission<br />

is all made up of Uribe’s supporters.<br />

Do you think Uribe favored security over<br />

freedom of the press?<br />

I don’t see it that way. Uribe's government<br />

pacified the country. As the levels of violence<br />

from armed groups significantly<br />

dropped, the violence against journalists<br />

also decreased. I believe that government<br />

spying did not have to do with fighting the<br />

FARC. I think it had more to do with the<br />

government's attempt to control the opposition.<br />

Uribe's government became extremely<br />

paranoid and started to consider<br />

everyone as an enemy.<br />

President Santos was a journalist, but<br />

still very close to the previous government.<br />

What do you think will be his position<br />

regarding freedom of expression?<br />

I think Santos is very different. I never<br />

heard a harsh statement against journalists,<br />

the media or the courts. The DAS director<br />

has given the Prosecutor all documents<br />

needed for the investigations. Santos has a<br />

more liberal approach; he has been a journalist<br />

all his life, and his brother was president<br />

of the Inter-American <strong>Press</strong> Association<br />

(IAPA). I do not see history repeating<br />

itself. The dangers to the press have to do<br />

with violence, and some local politicians,<br />

but I don’t see Santos beginning a massive<br />

phone-tapping campaign.<br />

How do you read the Radio Caracol car<br />

bomb incident, only five days after President<br />

Santos took office?<br />

It is very difficult to know who planted the<br />

bomb. Some e-mails apparently referred to<br />

it and said it was a plan conducted by the<br />

FARC. I think that's still unclear. If the goal<br />

was to silence Radio Caracol, then the objective<br />

was lost because Caracol and the<br />

media did not feel intimidated by it.<br />

Cambio magazine was closed this year,<br />

supposedly for economic reasons. How<br />

is Semana surviving; what is its strategy?<br />

Cambio was part of El Tiempo newspaper,<br />

which had taken a pro-governmental editorial<br />

stance. Cambio had been uncovering<br />

scandals about government corruption, so<br />

it was becoming uncomfortable. Besides, it<br />

wasn’t producing money, so they decided<br />

to close it. The case of Semana is different<br />

because it does not belong to any economic<br />

group and that gives it greater independence.<br />

Of course, it has been under pressure,<br />

some journalists have been monitored, but<br />

Semana has been toughened, it has remained<br />

independent.<br />

What are the differences between journalists<br />

from the Colombian capital Bogotá<br />

and those from regional media?<br />

Always in Colombia, the great sacrifices for<br />

press freedom have been made by regional<br />

reporters. They are the ones who have to<br />

deal with very brutal powers; many journalists<br />

have been silenced. Those from Bogotá<br />

are better protected.<br />

Are the media publishing the stories they<br />

want, or are they under government<br />

pressure?<br />

The only pressure is that the regional<br />

media depends on local government advertising<br />

and if they don’t have it, they die.<br />

In many cases, the governors or mayors remove<br />

advertising when the media is being<br />

very critical. Some local governments have<br />

been closely linked with corruption, drug<br />

trafficking or paramilitaries, and the brutal<br />

threat they constitute causes self-censorship.<br />

Journalists are afraid to publish the<br />

truth because they know that the paramilitaries<br />

or the guerrillas are capable of serious<br />

retaliation. The pressure is always official,<br />

but I don’t think the national government<br />

will directly pressure regional or<br />

local media.<br />

After the DAS scandal, what was the reaction<br />

of the population regarding freedom<br />

of expression?<br />

I think that in Colombia freedom of expression<br />

is well-established. People were<br />

shocked and critical about the government<br />

abusing its power. However, often people<br />

do not understand that freedom of expression<br />

is the counterpart of their right to be<br />

informed. If there was a serious attack<br />

against a respected media outlet in Colombia,<br />

I'm sure there would be great solidarity.<br />

When was the last serious attack?<br />

The major attacks took place in the late<br />

1980s and the early 1990s, when drug terrorism<br />

was taking place. The director of El<br />

Espectador was murdered, car bombs destroyed<br />

El Espectador and Vanguardia Liberal…<br />

Still, in recent years there have been<br />

attacks. There have been national news<br />

media executives who have been forced<br />

into exile by threats, like columnist and<br />

news director Daniel Coronell.<br />

María Teresa Ronderos<br />

What would your recommendations be?<br />

1.Definitely, impunity has to be eliminated.<br />

Almost all crimes against journalists remain<br />

unsolved, except those in which<br />

there were confessions made by paramilitaries.<br />

FLIP and CPJ have been pushing for<br />

efforts to tackle impunity.<br />

2. The state has to be much more transparent<br />

and open with information allegedly<br />

implicating journalists in criminal acts.<br />

3. It is essential to promote public awareness<br />

of the importance of freedom of expression.<br />

4. Another problem is the role of the police<br />

in demonstrations covered by journalists –<br />

whom they sometimes attack.<br />

5. The state, in Latin America in general,<br />

should establish clear guidelines on how to<br />

distribute the official budget, so that it<br />

doesn’t become a way of silencing or pressuring<br />

the media. The rapporteur is designing<br />

parameters to avoid this problem.<br />

That's another big challenge in Latin America;<br />

if we win, the freedom of expression<br />

profile in the region will change.<br />

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