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Public Meeting of CouncilThursday, August 11, 2005Page 16guarantee whatsoever by us, you’re right. No guarantee for or against the project, seriouslycould be either way.Gloria Snow: But then we won’t have 6 rows of houses in between. We’ll have minihomes in our back yard.Wayne Hambly: Well, you see, right here – if I can make this little red thing work here –that’s the .. right behind Hunter Lane Kevin, yeah, right along there … that’s… I canguarantee you definitely that street and the other side of the street will never be asked to bechanged from its R1S zoning ___. And then you see that big tree line that’s right there.Even if we ever did decide to come back for a rezoning on a future phase, well those treelines… you would still have the opportunity to voice the same opinion you’re voicing thisyear but I don’t know what …Gloria Snow: Wayne, I’m sorry but we’re tired of trudging the streets, getting names,we’re tired of it because one developer comes in ….Mayor Lee: I’m going to jump in here Gloria …Gloria Snow: I’m sorry, I’m sorry…Wayne Hambly: I just have a couple of …Mayor Lee: We’ll give you a chance in a few minutes to respond, ok?Gloria Snow: I know, sorry.Wayne Hambly: I really think I need to thank Frank Murray for the referral. Frank, I doappreciate that. But again, the point I’m making is, Parkwood Estates, which was built in1968 and sure some of the homes are getting older in there now, but I tell you the peoplethat own those homes still have a very strong pride of ownership. That park was in place in1968. He says I’m the new kid on the block. I’ve been in that community since 1968, sowe’ve been around for a long time and again, people building in that area – that park wasalready there and if it was such a big problem, why would you build there? And that goesback to 1968. The same thing Hunters Lane, if it’s such a big problem, Riverview Estateswas already there, why would you build there if it was going to be such a big problem? Andthen the 3 rd point about the small lot size, R1S versus R1L, the way the cost of developingland today is going and every developer will tell you this, the cost of putting in the streets,the water and the sewer and the fire hydrants, today lots are getting smaller not bigger justbecause that’s the only way developers can afford to develop subdivisions and make lotsaffordable. So, when the City in its wisdom, and I certainly think it’s the right way to go,developed not only an R1L lot which is 75 foot frontage, they also developed an R1S lotwhich is 59 foot frontage to allow for developers to put housing in that wouldn’t have thelarge capital cost of development so they could offer land for development to the consumerat prices they could afford. And that’s a standard planning program in any City, develop
Public Meeting of CouncilThursday, August 11, 2005Page 17smaller lot sizes. If you’re in Toronto, they have 28 foot frontage lots so we’re not doinganything different than just what … the cost to developers to try to do now. So those are thepoints I’d like to make.Mayor Lee: Thank you.David MacKenzie: Mayor Lee, I’d like to comment …Mayor Lee: Sure.David MacKenzie: Mr. Hambly made a …Mayor Lee: Could you just identify yourself..David MacKenzie: I’m sorry, David MacKenzie. Mr. Hambly made reference to acomment that I made and so that you all didn’t make the same mistake in the interpretationhe did, the graduation I was talking about was to make a buffer between commercialdevelopment and residential development and not between a nice river like the HillsboroughRiver and residential development. Mr. Hambly has a very nice mini home park atRiverside ….Wayne Hambly: Riverview.David MacKenzie: … Riverview Estates, nicely isolated on the opposite side of AcadianDrive, which is supposed to become an arterial road and it will probably be there as a gatedcommunity like was described before and he’s right, didn’t see it and as I’ll reiterate, when Iwas planning to build my home I saw that certain___ down there and I pictured the modularhomes hence buying my property. _____ mini homes in that particular area that Mr.Hambly cannot guarantee will not come back through this whole process again ____, couldnot. In fact, Mr. Hambly, to his due, would not guarantee that because as a business man heknows that he still is going to be in the same boat again. That’s why I asked you here to getit into Plan, in a good and well organized way. Thank you.Brenda MacNeill: Brenda macNeill. I just want to address Mr. Hambly’s comments aboutwhy we purchased our homes in the area knowing that Riverview Estates existed. When Ipurchased my home it was a very big decision for me. It was the first home I had everpurchased. I was lucky to have a really good real estate agent who really looked out for myinterest I thought at the time. I was quite aware that the land was there, that it was R1zoned. I was quite aware that Riverview Estates existed, I was quite aware that ParkviewEstates existed at the time. Therefore, the home that I purchased on Hunter Lane at the thattime … if I had been purchasing that same home in another part of the City I would havepaid probably $30,000 more for it. So, yes, I did take all those factors into account, but oneof the main factors I took into account was that R1 zoning that existed. The other issue Iwanted to address is he talks about there’s six building lots deep separating us from his minihome park. I mean, those are empty lots until he can get someone to purchase a modular
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