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Public Meeting of CouncilThursday, August 11, 2005Page 22John Williams: Point of clarification… you have park land and taking 1.5 acres and puttingit up by Hunter Lane. We’re not asking for that, like, what are you doing? Are you helpinghim?Councillor Brown: Again, points of clarification.John Williams: That’s a good point of clarification.Mayor Lee: Thank you.Gloria Snow: Also, we’re not here representing Hunter Lane. We’re here representingHillsborough Park as per the 471 people that have been opposed to this and you know,they’re probably going to be many more. I mean, this isn’t a Hunter Lane issue. I don’tknow what’s happening here but it’s not just us so he can say he can put this row of R1S,you know, behind our street – so what! We’re representing our community, you know, andwe had a lot of thanks from people … ____tell you that many comments we’ve had from thepeople to thank God we’re doing what we’re doing because this would go through and theneverybody would say, oh, what did we do? What did we do? And they said, you know,kudos to us for doing what we’re doing because we’re not doing it for us, we’re doing it forHillsborough Park, to leave the land zoned R1 the way it is in our Official Plan. Thank you.Brenda MacNeill: I have to say I’m totally confused again because now we’re here againtalking about park land down by the ball field. That just gives me the feeling that this issomething like what happened seven years ago when it started out as 40 acres. We got to apublic meeting and we discovered it was 55 acres – isn’t that what the situation .. why arewe talking about park land outside of the rezoned area? Like, I’m totally confused by thatPhilip.Councillor Brown: There were points of clarification. I asked …the 65 acres is based on10%, ok, 10% in cash in lieu or 10% of the land. That’s what he showed me, 6.5 acres,that’s what I asked for a point of clarification. That’s what we’re supposed to do is whenwe’re asking these questions.Brenda MacNeill: Ok, the other issue that we have is this here guarantee of, you know, notcoming back for a rezoning in the future and everything. I just want to let known that Iplace no value on any guarantees that are given. When this proposal was put forwardbefore, like, we were talking 7200 square foot lots with 60 – 70 foot frontages on them. Imean, what do we see here? We see 5800 so I mean he’s not going to do anything otherthan what is required of him as a minimum in the bylaws and I don’t blame him. I mean,you know, that’s his right so I mean, why are we asking for a guarantee to something that,you mean, it doesn’t mean anything. Nobody is going to enforce it.Mayor Lee: Can we have … Councillor Garrity?
Public Meeting of CouncilThursday, August 11, 2005Page 23Councillor Garrity: Thank you. First of all congratulations to all presenters, I think you dida great job. Some lady said she was scared but Gloria, you should run for politics, you did asuper job. And you were all good, Wayne was good, everybody did a good job, that’s clear.I have one question and I just must have missed it. In the gentle yellow versus the brightyellow areas, the bright yellow or the orange, whatever it is, what size lots are those now orproposed to be if it’s finished? Is it 5900 square feet, did I hear that?Wayne Hambly: When the zoning R1S, was designated R1S back six or seven years ago,the plan was drawn to meet R1S specification. Now even though we’ve designated andasked for a rezoning in that area there, we haven’t changed the plan from the original plan interms of lot size.Councillor Garrity: Ok, that’s what I wanted to know. So their the same size, the whole …all the yellow, even though their bright for this purpose?Wayne Hambly: No, but Bruce, to the point, they’re not all exactly 60 feet, some may be 65feet, some maybe 200 feet deep, some maybe a 120 feet deep. You know, the lot squarefootage varies from one lot to another simply because of the layout of the …Councillor Garrity: Sure, thank you very much.Mayor Lee: Any other questions?Cindy Williams: But the point I’d like to make too with … if he receives MH zoning withthis 15 acres, the minimum he can go with the 5000 square feet, that would be his right to dothat. So telling us that he’s going to, you know, with 5800 square feet and lah, dee, dah,doesn’t mean he’s not going to because if he gets the zoning, he has that right to use theminimum 5000 square feet.Brenda MacNeill: I just want to add to Cindy’s comments there. I totally agree with whatshe’s saying there. There’s, you know, nothing to prevent those lots from being 5005 squarefeet. I mean, even when I talk to the Planning Department here, I was told that until therezoning goes through, a survey does not have to be done. They said lots do not have to be___. Absolutely nothing that would prevent that from being rezoned and he’s entitled torezone it … ___ entitled to have the 5000 square foot lot and I don’t see how you canprevent him from doing that.Mayor Lee: Any comments from Council – Councillor Bernard?Councillor Bernard: Thank you Your Worship. I just want to .. Your Worship, I had ameeting, a Town Hall meeting here about a week and a half ago on this issue. I want tothank Wayne for coming and doing his presentation to my constituents and I want to thankthe constituents again for coming out tonight. Thank you very much.
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