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ing room at home.<br />
That’s amazing. So much has changed.<br />
So much. We moved to East Avenue—actually,<br />
we took the space next to it. It was<br />
a carbon copy, and we broke through. So<br />
then I had 500 square feet at $500 a month.<br />
That was a big deal. Then we got our first<br />
employee. When the Rochester Plaza opened<br />
downtown, they came to us for some reason,<br />
and we got the account.<br />
When was that? That was 1984 or 1985.<br />
We really just outgrew our old space. I remember<br />
working out in the parking lot at the<br />
old store because you just did it. You didn’t<br />
think about it. And then I saw that space on<br />
East Avenue, and they had just redone it, the<br />
whole entire store, and it was for lease. And<br />
to me it was a lot of money. My father was<br />
totally freaked out. He thought for sure I was<br />
going to be penniless. I put all the money I had<br />
saved into the space. And I remember going<br />
in super early the morning we were supposed<br />
to open. It was the week before Thanksgiving.<br />
And I looked around, and I was scared shitless.<br />
I thought, “What the fuck have I done?”<br />
And then the doors opened, and we were<br />
mobbed, and it never stopped. It was kind of<br />
scary actually.<br />
Did you have any idea how forward-thinking<br />
you were, moving into that space, looking<br />
back at it now?<br />
I do feel pride in it. That’s our corner. Even<br />
if people don’t come in to buy something, they<br />
enjoy the window maybe, or they’re inspired<br />
by something. We’ve lived through all the<br />
changes in that area. I think that’s important<br />
on some level. But we were different back<br />
then. East Avenue was a nice address. I wanted<br />
to be upscale. I thought upscale was the way<br />
to go. But now I look at pictures, and I’m horrified,<br />
because our logo was a bird of paradise,<br />
you know?<br />
You used to do bird of paradise?<br />
Oh my God, I get uncomfortable looking<br />
at it. It makes me—I’m a little embarrassed.<br />
So why the change?<br />
We ran like a machine for years until<br />
one morning I woke up and said, “I can’t do<br />
this anymore. If I see another fucking bird of<br />
paradise. If I see…” People just had this image<br />
of an Arena’s look that they wanted. But in my<br />
soul, it was like naturalism and earthy and the<br />
way flowers grow. So one morning I met with<br />
everybody, and I said, “We’re not going to do<br />
this anymore.” We had a whole identity crisis.<br />
Jonathan Rutherford<br />
Issue 9 <strong>January</strong> / <strong>February</strong> <strong>2015</strong> | <strong>POST</strong> 19