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interview<br />
And we took down the neon, and we changed<br />
the logo, and that was when we added the<br />
sunflower. I wanted something that isn’t in<br />
a flower shop. And, at that time, sunflowers<br />
weren’t in a flower shop. I said, “Let’s just go<br />
to botanical.”<br />
How did people respond?<br />
It was so awkward. People didn’t know.<br />
People were ordering, and they wanted the<br />
old Arena’s. We actually did both for a while.<br />
The new was still beautiful, but it wasn’t birds<br />
of paradise. It wasn’t sculptural. It was low<br />
and mossy and that craggy branch and some<br />
beautiful roses. It was the new pretty.<br />
When was that?<br />
It might have been mid-’90s. We went<br />
completely natural—we went the other way.<br />
So it was shortly after that I think that<br />
you started bringing into the showroom<br />
accessories.<br />
Yes. We were only a florist. But people<br />
started wanting to buy the tables and displays<br />
we were using in the store. Then, before you<br />
know it, everything had a price tag on it. So<br />
the retail piece was sort of secondary. But I<br />
think that made us fresh.<br />
So that was a turning point?<br />
The turning point was when I went true to<br />
what I really loved—when I gave myself permission<br />
to actually design instead of producing<br />
what I thought people had grown to like<br />
or what I thought was the right thing to do to<br />
make us be noticed. Then I was much happier<br />
with Arena’s.<br />
What about the upstairs at Arena’s? The idea<br />
of Organic Luxe and interior design?<br />
We did interior design because it was just<br />
this—I said no to it for so long, and then I<br />
would take on a project here and there. And<br />
then I started selling houses I was living in<br />
because people liked the aesthetic. They liked<br />
the aesthetic in the store. But I was always<br />
afraid of losing my focus or doing too much<br />
and fucking up. So I would take one project<br />
at a time. Then when Jonathan (Ragusa) came<br />
onboard, we really set ourselves up for interior<br />
design and made a commitment to it. It was<br />
only when I really thought it was a good fit.<br />
Like a really good fit, like it was with Greg<br />
(Lipphard, a dear friend and antiques dealer).<br />
He said to me the week before he died, “I’m<br />
giving you all my books. …You can do it.” I<br />
remember how hard it was to pick up all those<br />
books. There was so much of Greg in them.<br />
It just kind of boosted me to say, you can do<br />
this.<br />
And now you do commercial and private<br />
interiors?<br />
Yes, both. We’ve been really fortunate that<br />
people entrust us and let us into their personal<br />
space.<br />
What do you think people would find surprising<br />
about you?<br />
I’m shy. And I don’t have patience for<br />
drama. I’m better one-on-one than in groups.<br />
I’m not a party animal. There are no parties at<br />
6 a.m. in the morning. Those parties you don’t<br />
want to go to. They’re scary.<br />
If you had to give design advice to someone<br />
who’s designing their own living space, what<br />
would it be?<br />
Don’t rush it. Bring your favorite things,<br />
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