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interview<br />

And we took down the neon, and we changed<br />

the logo, and that was when we added the<br />

sunflower. I wanted something that isn’t in<br />

a flower shop. And, at that time, sunflowers<br />

weren’t in a flower shop. I said, “Let’s just go<br />

to botanical.”<br />

How did people respond?<br />

It was so awkward. People didn’t know.<br />

People were ordering, and they wanted the<br />

old Arena’s. We actually did both for a while.<br />

The new was still beautiful, but it wasn’t birds<br />

of paradise. It wasn’t sculptural. It was low<br />

and mossy and that craggy branch and some<br />

beautiful roses. It was the new pretty.<br />

When was that?<br />

It might have been mid-’90s. We went<br />

completely natural—we went the other way.<br />

So it was shortly after that I think that<br />

you started bringing into the showroom<br />

accessories.<br />

Yes. We were only a florist. But people<br />

started wanting to buy the tables and displays<br />

we were using in the store. Then, before you<br />

know it, everything had a price tag on it. So<br />

the retail piece was sort of secondary. But I<br />

think that made us fresh.<br />

So that was a turning point?<br />

The turning point was when I went true to<br />

what I really loved—when I gave myself permission<br />

to actually design instead of producing<br />

what I thought people had grown to like<br />

or what I thought was the right thing to do to<br />

make us be noticed. Then I was much happier<br />

with Arena’s.<br />

What about the upstairs at Arena’s? The idea<br />

of Organic Luxe and interior design?<br />

We did interior design because it was just<br />

this—I said no to it for so long, and then I<br />

would take on a project here and there. And<br />

then I started selling houses I was living in<br />

because people liked the aesthetic. They liked<br />

the aesthetic in the store. But I was always<br />

afraid of losing my focus or doing too much<br />

and fucking up. So I would take one project<br />

at a time. Then when Jonathan (Ragusa) came<br />

onboard, we really set ourselves up for interior<br />

design and made a commitment to it. It was<br />

only when I really thought it was a good fit.<br />

Like a really good fit, like it was with Greg<br />

(Lipphard, a dear friend and antiques dealer).<br />

He said to me the week before he died, “I’m<br />

giving you all my books. …You can do it.” I<br />

remember how hard it was to pick up all those<br />

books. There was so much of Greg in them.<br />

It just kind of boosted me to say, you can do<br />

this.<br />

And now you do commercial and private<br />

interiors?<br />

Yes, both. We’ve been really fortunate that<br />

people entrust us and let us into their personal<br />

space.<br />

What do you think people would find surprising<br />

about you?<br />

I’m shy. And I don’t have patience for<br />

drama. I’m better one-on-one than in groups.<br />

I’m not a party animal. There are no parties at<br />

6 a.m. in the morning. Those parties you don’t<br />

want to go to. They’re scary.<br />

If you had to give design advice to someone<br />

who’s designing their own living space, what<br />

would it be?<br />

Don’t rush it. Bring your favorite things,<br />

20 <strong>POST</strong> | Issue 9 <strong>January</strong> / <strong>February</strong> <strong>2015</strong>

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