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BY EILEEN SHAPIRO<br />

CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT<br />

THE WINNER OF<br />

VH1 RUPAUL DRAG RACE<br />

Sasha<br />

Velour<br />

The dashing, avant-garde queen Sasha<br />

Velour joyfully accepted her treasured<br />

crown at the grand finale of season nine<br />

of “RuPaul’s Drag Race” amidst a titanic<br />

explosion of brightly colored rose petals<br />

cascading onto the stage during an<br />

“Emotional” Whitney Houston ballad.<br />

With some incredible depth in<br />

representing the true meaning of<br />

radical artistry, bohemian fashion,<br />

contemporary insanity and most<br />

importantly the meaning of creative<br />

drag, Sasha Velour quickly became a<br />

fan favorite during the season nine<br />

competition. Her victory over other<br />

finalists—Shea Coulee, Trinity Taylor<br />

and Peppermint—was a self-proclaimed<br />

struggle, according to the jubilee<br />

queen, who will also be present at Drag<br />

Con on September 9 and 10 at the<br />

Jacob Javits Center.<br />

Velour was born Alexander Hedges<br />

Steinberg in Berkeley, California, and<br />

attended Vassar College and the<br />

Center for Cartoon Studies, where she<br />

received a Master of Fine Arts. She was<br />

also a Fulbright Scholar in Moscow,<br />

where she worked on a project that<br />

strived to understand the role of art<br />

forms in contemporary Russian society.<br />

She is currently Brooklyn based and<br />

is also a designer, creative director,<br />

illustrator and editor of her own<br />

magazine dedicated to drag. Velour also<br />

produces a monthly drag show called<br />

Nightgowns.<br />

Admired on “Drag Race” for her spirited<br />

“I Feel So Honored and<br />

So Lucky Everyday”<br />

sense of fashion (Vivienne Westwood,<br />

watch out), her overwhelming dress<br />

creations would make any fashion<br />

designer seethingly jealous. However,<br />

aside from her exclusive talents, Velour<br />

is a kind, warm and humble queen. We<br />

spoke in depth about her experience<br />

while on the Emmy-nominated<br />

competition, her winning celebration<br />

and her future aspirations.


I just heard about your<br />

Italian greyhound.<br />

The true star of our<br />

household.<br />

What’s his name?<br />

His name is Vanya, a nice<br />

Russian name, like Uncle<br />

Vanya.<br />

How cute! So first of all,<br />

congratulations on your<br />

fabulous victory.<br />

Thank you!<br />

I felt from our first interview<br />

that you would be the<br />

victor.<br />

Thank you. Yeah, you and I<br />

had a special connection from<br />

that first interview.<br />

What went through your<br />

mind as they announced<br />

you as the winner? What<br />

were you feeling at that<br />

moment?<br />

Oh my gosh, I was so<br />

thrilled. I was so proud. It<br />

hadn’t been the most simple<br />

journey, from the very first<br />

day of the competition. I<br />

had many moments where I<br />

think lots of people doubted<br />

me: people watching, the<br />

judges, sometimes even<br />

myself. So getting to the<br />

end and getting to win was<br />

a huge accomplishment and<br />

such a huge battle. All my<br />

competitors had been so<br />

talented. I think this was one<br />

of the most talented seasons<br />

of “Drag Race” ever. So it was<br />

really tough.<br />

I have to agree with you<br />

about the talent this season.<br />

Everyone was so extra on<br />

point.<br />

Yeah, and it’s been interesting<br />

since the competition,<br />

getting to travel with the<br />

other contestants and<br />

perform alongside them. I do<br />

see just how talented they<br />

really are, and what a tough<br />

competition it was. These<br />

girls are capable of doing<br />

really impressive stuff.<br />

Yes, but so are you, and I’m<br />

glad a New York girl won.<br />

Those New York queens have<br />

done quite well on the show.<br />

I think it’s because it’s so<br />

hard to make it in New York.<br />

There is so much drag, there<br />

is so much competition, and<br />

it is such a hard lifestyle. We<br />

enter already with a bit of an<br />

advantage, because of the<br />

New York lifestyle.<br />

You might be right about<br />

that. I was speaking to<br />

Peppermint, who thought<br />

that because there was<br />

such a special camaraderie<br />

this season between all<br />

of the girls—there was no<br />

wig snatching or drinks<br />

thrown—so there might<br />

have been some audience<br />

flack regarding that. What is<br />

your take on that?<br />

The fan base of the show<br />

loves to complain about<br />

the show. As a lifelong fan<br />

myself, I can absolutely<br />

speak to that personally. I’ve<br />

always complained about the<br />

show. [laughs] I think that it<br />

is great that people are so<br />

opinionated about the show<br />

and about drag at the end<br />

of the day. It’s great to say,<br />

“Well, drag needs more this,<br />

or drag needs to be more<br />

that.” Those feelings have<br />

motivated me to do a lot of<br />

different drag. Everyone who<br />

thinks this show should be<br />

different should go put on<br />

some drag and give it a try to<br />

personally shift the direction<br />

that drag is going in.


They need to walk in your<br />

high heels for a moment.<br />

Exactly. I think “Drag<br />

Race” itself is somewhat<br />

responsible for making<br />

different types of drag<br />

performers get along better.<br />

I think that before the show<br />

started there were some<br />

really big divisions within<br />

the drag world, between all<br />

these different categories<br />

of drag. The show kind of<br />

introduced people to all<br />

these different categories<br />

of drag. Now, people across<br />

the categories are able to<br />

understand and respect<br />

each other more. The kind<br />

of inner drag tensions and<br />

dramas of drag are the kind<br />

of things you saw in season<br />

four, when people were<br />

saying, “That’s not drag;<br />

this is what drag is.” Those<br />

don’t exist within the drag<br />

community, because we’ve<br />

sort of seen everything.<br />

We’ve grown to love it all.<br />

That’s a very true<br />

statement. So how has<br />

winning “Drag Race”<br />

changed your life?<br />

Literally - it’s not a joke to<br />

me - how hasn’t it changed<br />

my life? Every aspect of my<br />

life has changed, except<br />

that I’m doing what I’ve<br />

always wanted to be doing.<br />

What I have always been<br />

able to do on this side of<br />

things, I now get to do<br />

every day, and that’s the<br />

main thing. That is, I feel so<br />

honored and so lucky every<br />

day. In this position, through<br />

“Drag Race,” we get to<br />

reach people like us, queer<br />

people who are struggling<br />

and looking for forms of<br />

self-expression all around<br />

the country, and really<br />

connect with them.<br />

Did you have a bestie on<br />

the show?<br />

I kind of had two besties.<br />

People saw my friendship<br />

with Shea. It’s beyond<br />

a personal friendship.<br />

We really see eye to eye<br />

creatively. Even after we<br />

had to face off at the final<br />

battle, we still have just the<br />

most love and appreciation<br />

for each other and for<br />

each other’s drag. Then, of<br />

course, Miss Peppermint<br />

from New York. I’ve been<br />

able to see her throughout<br />

the year. Kind of jokingly we<br />

live on opposite sides of the<br />

A train. We have an hour<br />

and a half on the A train<br />

between us, but we still see<br />

each other.<br />

I’m glad you mentioned<br />

her, because Peppermint<br />

mentioned you regarding<br />

that same question.<br />

Oh, that makes me happy.<br />

Aside from “Drag Race”<br />

tours and traveling, what<br />

other plans are there in<br />

Sasha’s future?<br />

So, I have what I call “The<br />

House of Velour.” That’s<br />

the production side of the<br />

things that I do, because<br />

there’s my own drag, and<br />

it’s a career. However, I<br />

also have always been a<br />

producer of drag too.


I edit a magazine that<br />

features lots of different drag<br />

artists. It tries to describe<br />

what drag is all about for an<br />

audience, kind of the way<br />

“Drag Race” does. I also<br />

produce a live show called<br />

Nightgowns. It’s a bit of a<br />

dream cabaret of drag. It’s<br />

really heartfelt and creative<br />

drag performances from<br />

across the spectrum of what<br />

drag can be in terms of style,<br />

in terms of gender. And I<br />

want to expand that side<br />

of what I do, really make<br />

my mark as someone who<br />

curates and produces drag.<br />

I want to give other drag<br />

performers opportunities<br />

the same way that I have. I<br />

think the world needs more<br />

drag, and I want to play a<br />

role in helping to expand the<br />

conversation in terms of that.<br />

There is nothing in the<br />

world like a drag queen.<br />

I love hearing you say<br />

that. That combination of<br />

heartfelt earnestness with<br />

sharp, bitchy wit—it really is<br />

the most perfect thing.<br />

If you could say anything to<br />

your fans and followers, what<br />

would that be?<br />

Just to keep staying openminded<br />

and full of love. The<br />

people that follow me and<br />

support me have such an<br />

open mind and such a kind<br />

and creative spirit. I think<br />

that’s exactly what we need<br />

more of right now. So I just<br />

want to thank the people<br />

that support me for their<br />

amazing energy. I hope they<br />

just keep it up, because we<br />

have a tough year to get<br />

through together. I hope<br />

that drag can keep pushing<br />

people to be courageous<br />

in their everyday life. I’ve<br />

gotten to see in the last<br />

couple of months the way<br />

drag can inspire people. I<br />

hope we can all keep doing<br />

that together.<br />

Aside from winning, what<br />

was your most glorious<br />

moment on the show?<br />

I think just walking on<br />

set. There is such a glory<br />

to just being part of the<br />

“Drag Race” experience.<br />

It’s already a competition<br />

just to walk in the door. I<br />

felt like stepping into the<br />

workroom itself was a victory.<br />

Maybe that’s why I walked<br />

in screaming. I did feel<br />

pretty triumphant just to be<br />

there in the first place, and<br />

open-minded to whatever<br />

would happen. I got to leave<br />

screaming too! So it all<br />

worked.<br />

You’re going to be at Drag<br />

Con I’m sure.<br />

Yes, exactly. I’m going<br />

to have a nice big setup.<br />

I’m going to be there all<br />

day. Then I’m doing a<br />

Nightgowns performance on<br />

Sunday night, following Drag<br />

Con weekend, as a final<br />

performance. It will have<br />

some queens from “Drag<br />

Race” and some performers<br />

from Brooklyn. I am very<br />

excited. It’s going to be at<br />

NYU’s Skirball Center at 9<br />

p.m.!


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Cover: Sasha Velour<br />

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CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT<br />

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REVERSE<br />

THE BEAT<br />

Trans pop diva Dina Delicious has just<br />

released her newest track titled “Reverse the<br />

Beat,” an optimistic, positive, buoyant tune<br />

that celebrates the pride of self. It is available<br />

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Raised in Brooklyn by a single mom, Dina<br />

Delicious is a well-known NYC-based transgender<br />

nightlife personality, recording artist<br />

and actress. She proclaims that her music<br />

“is an extension of my personality: wild and<br />

unpredictable,” set in the dance music/<br />

club genre. She goes on to say, “Ultimately, I<br />

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experience that everyone is invited to.”<br />

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clubs all over the country, partaking in several<br />

Prides and preparing to release more music.<br />

She believes that, “People matter. I feel so<br />

blessed to be a part of this community, and<br />

if there is anything I could do to change<br />

people’s lives for the better, I’ll do it, forever.”<br />

I love your new release.<br />

Tell me about it.<br />

Oh, I’m so happy with it.<br />

We started to shoot the<br />

music video a few weeks<br />

ago. I rushed it, because<br />

I had to perform it for<br />

Pride, for ABC. Usually<br />

I would have the video<br />

ready and done, but<br />

everything happened kind<br />

of quick. Then I went to<br />

San Diego Pride. In the<br />

interim, I’m also in a film<br />

and theater conservatory,<br />

so I just had a busy few<br />

months. I can’t complain<br />

about that at all.<br />

Busy is good.<br />

Yeah, busy is good.<br />

So are you planning<br />

to tour with this new<br />

release?<br />

Well, we’re going to finish<br />

the video, then I had the<br />

two dates in New York<br />

and San Diego, and now<br />

I have six other cities that<br />

I’ll be going to in the fall.<br />

I’ll be going to Florida,<br />

Chicago, Atlanta, Palm<br />

Springs, I’ll be back in<br />

San Diego for a club<br />

booking...yeah, it’s great.<br />

It’s going well. There<br />

will be a whole bunch<br />

of songs coming out<br />

that I’m going to release<br />

individually, and then<br />

package them as an EP


instead of bringing it all out at<br />

once. People don’t consider<br />

music the way they use to.<br />

Especially for an independent<br />

artist.<br />

That’s a great idea!<br />

I feel like “Reverse the Beat” will<br />

be a song that will live forever.<br />

It’s a classic theme. It’s relatable<br />

to everyone.<br />

It’s a great song.<br />

I’m so happy with it. Thank you<br />

for saying that. I love hearing<br />

people’s reaction to it. In San<br />

Diego I really got a great<br />

reaction, because it was a huge<br />

crowd, and New York City Pride<br />

it was a huge crowd, but we<br />

were doing it more for TV, for<br />

ABC. For the broadcast, you<br />

kind of don’t know what’s going<br />

on, because you’re dealing with<br />

different cameras, and the march<br />

was going on. So it was a little<br />

different for me. I’m used to<br />

doing New York City Pride in a<br />

different way. So this year it was<br />

a totally brand-new experience<br />

for me. It was fun, because it<br />

was different. It caught me off<br />

guard, which kind of pushed me<br />

a little bit more. I didn’t know<br />

what to expect. It wasn’t like<br />

regimented, because I’ve been<br />

doing it for a while. It was also<br />

the first time I ever performed<br />

the song. I never performed it<br />

before. So I didn’t know what to<br />

expect. It was a good moment.<br />

I’ll never forget it. I liked New<br />

York City Pride.<br />

So did you name the new EP yet?<br />

No, it’s not named yet. I haven’t named it yet,<br />

because there’s one more song I really would<br />

like to add to it, and I think the last song<br />

might be the name of it. I’m not exactly sure<br />

what I’m going to name it. I have more than I<br />

need, but I have to kind of go by the thread of<br />

the EP, and then I’ll name it.<br />

Did you write all the songs?<br />

Yeah. I have some co-writers after I write it, but<br />

musically I come up with the whole concept.<br />

The song, the lyrics, everything. Then we sit<br />

down and rework it and what have you, but it<br />

basically comes from me.<br />

I didn’t know you were a songwriter as<br />

well.<br />

I’ve had “Reverse the Beat” in my arsenal of<br />

songs for so long, but I changed some words,<br />

re-recorded it and just let the baby go. I knew<br />

now was the perfect time to release the song,<br />

especially with the political climate being<br />

what it is. I wanted to do something very<br />

empowering.<br />

I love NYC pride. There’s<br />

nothing like it anywhere.<br />

No, not at all. That’s why it’s<br />

getting bigger and bigger,<br />

because it’s preparing for<br />

World Pride. There is a lot of<br />

preparation. Everything has got<br />

to be down to a T. It’s going to<br />

be beyond.


Do you have an idol?<br />

I would definitely say that I’m<br />

very influenced by some of<br />

the legends of pop music. I’m<br />

definitely influenced by Madonna,<br />

Britney Spears and Nile<br />

Rodgers—he’s very inspirational<br />

to me. As far as production wise,<br />

I look at Dr. Luke as a producer,<br />

because I think he’s just amazing.<br />

I refer to a lot of that work when<br />

I’m working on my mixes. Pop<br />

music and dance music has<br />

changed, and it’s all evolved, I<br />

think in a good way. I’m all about<br />

harmonies; harmonies are very<br />

important to me. I like it to have a<br />

bubbly feeling to it, and there has<br />

to always be a sweetness. Even<br />

if I was to put out a dark song,<br />

there would have to be some sort<br />

of sweetness to it. There has to<br />

be a yin and a yang to everything.<br />

I don’t think anything comes just<br />

one way.<br />

I wanted it to be a really feel-good and<br />

empowering song that speaks to so<br />

many communities. I never try to write<br />

from a place just for a specific audience; I<br />

always write for everyone. This song is for<br />

everyone, because we all go through stuff.<br />

Sometimes we need a little push, a little<br />

bit of positivity. There is so much negativity<br />

going on. I’d rather focus on the positive. I<br />

don’t have the energy to give to negative.<br />

What would be your ultimate stage<br />

fantasy?<br />

For me, I’d love to be with a live band,<br />

definitely with some crazy sets. I would<br />

love to have some dancers. I’m not really<br />

big on having tons of dancers, because<br />

sometimes they can be a distraction. A<br />

great band and of course amazing clothes<br />

and good hair help, people there to have<br />

a good time and just people there that<br />

are full of life. The best way to entertain<br />

is playing for a lot of people at once. I<br />

guess Madison Square Garden would be<br />

my ultimate fantasy, or Radio City Music<br />

Hall—something really historic, something<br />

that has a history, that you could say, “I did<br />

that!”<br />

Anything else that you wish to<br />

promote?<br />

I’m doing club appearances, the<br />

music video. I’ll be touring across<br />

the country with the music for the<br />

next few months. Look out for the<br />

music video, which will probably<br />

come out at the end of <strong>August</strong>,<br />

then there will be a new release.<br />

Follow Dina Delicious on<br />

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BY IAN-MICHAEL BERGERON<br />

@ianmichaelinwonderland<br />

When it comes to friends<br />

with benefits, one of two things<br />

typically seems to happen:<br />

You become straight-up fuck<br />

buddies, only calling each other<br />

for a booty call, or one of you<br />

falls in love.<br />

I was pretty certain I didn’t see<br />

M in a romantic way, but I’d<br />

never really thought about it<br />

before. He’d never asked me<br />

on a date, and when we fooled<br />

around I was the one who came<br />

onto him.<br />

Surprisingly, our friendship<br />

seemed to stay the course.<br />

We’d get food, go out to bars,<br />

get drunk—and, occasionally,<br />

return to his apartment<br />

afterward and fool around.<br />

But friendships, just like<br />

anything else, do change with<br />

time. After a year or so, I got<br />

a new job that changed up my<br />

schedule, and M moved into<br />

deep Brooklyn. We stayed in<br />

touch, of course, but our weekly<br />

nights of debauchery mostly<br />

came to an end.<br />

PART THREE<br />

Friends with Benefits<br />

Three years after we first met,<br />

we went out to the Ritz for<br />

our tri-yearly night of drinking.<br />

“Seeing anyone?” I asked, four<br />

(or five?) drinks in.<br />

“Just ended something,<br />

actually,” he shrugged. “I<br />

made it clear that I didn’t want<br />

a relationship, but he stuck it<br />

out for five months, hoping I’d<br />

change my mind.”<br />

“And you didn’t?”<br />

“Eh, I’m not ready for a<br />

boyfriend now anyway.”<br />

“Even me?” I teased, poking<br />

him in the rib.<br />

“You’re a special case for me,”<br />

he said seriously, not making<br />

eye contact.<br />

I choked on my drink. “What?”<br />

“I never let down my emotional<br />

guard for him, I guess. With<br />

you, I did right away.”<br />

Baffled, I leaned back against<br />

the wall. I didn’t expect that,<br />

and if I were expecting it, I<br />

wouldn’t have had so much to<br />

drink.<br />

“You asked,” he went on. “I<br />

can’t lie to you.”<br />

“Are you saying you have<br />

feelings for me? Like, real<br />

feelings?”<br />

“I always have.”<br />

“But you never said anything to<br />

me. For three years you never<br />

said anything.”<br />

“For two and a half of those<br />

years you kept getting back<br />

together with The Ex Fiancé,”<br />

he said evenly, not allowing<br />

himself to get upset. Not to<br />

mention, he wasn’t wrong.<br />

“Maybe I dodged the issue all<br />

those years. The timing was<br />

never right, I guess.”<br />

“But you never let on. At all.<br />

Not a bit. Not even a hint.”<br />

“I guess I thought that I did.”<br />

We stood there in silence for<br />

a while, then paid our tab.<br />

He walked me to the subway,<br />

nodded goodbye, and hopped<br />

into a cab.<br />

Maybe it’s possible to be friends<br />

with benefits, but for M and me,<br />

that was not the case.<br />

We never talked about it again.<br />

PHOTO BY STEVE BRENNAN<br />

WARDROBE: NATHAN AYON


BY EILEEN SHAPIRO<br />

CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT<br />

RANDY<br />

JONES<br />

STILL<br />

MAKING<br />

NOISE<br />

The achievement of having a song chart on Billboard is enormously prodigious in<br />

itself; however, celebrating a hit on the charts approaching the eve of the 40th<br />

anniversary of the first time you appeared on the charts ever is triumphant. Randy<br />

Jones, the original cowboy of the Village People, is the only member of the disco<br />

phenomenon recognized for their onstage costumes representing American<br />

masculine cultural stereotypes who has charted as a solo artist, with his newest<br />

release, “Hard Times.”<br />

“Hard Times” is the one thing Jones is certainly not having these days, with a hit<br />

record on his hands; starring in, writing and producing horror films; working on an<br />

EP; making personal appearances at national Comic Cons; and traveling around the<br />

country performing. With barely a moment to breathe, I was fortunate enough to<br />

catch Randy in New York. We made arrangements to meet at the legendary Bowery<br />

Bar in The Village, following his television taping for “MetroFocus” on PBS.<br />

It was an exceptionally humid <strong>August</strong> day as I sat on the electric blue and white<br />

striped couch, sipping my ginger ale brimming with ice and adorned with a<br />

chartreuse lime. I observed the eclectic decor, the variations of ivy climbing the walls<br />

of the outside enclosure, the brick floors and burnt orange and turquoise fireplace,<br />

thinking that nothing matched, yet it all worked.<br />

Ultimately Jones sauntered in, tall and full of smiles, looking not very different<br />

than he did 40 years ago, proudly giving out his new remixed CD to myself and the<br />

restaurant hostess. Within seconds of being seated, Randy was informed that the<br />

kitchen employees were blasting “YMCA.” He then strolled into the kitchen and<br />

happily posed for pictures with the staff, definitely making their day and leaving<br />

them thrilled. They were young and spoke an array of native tongues, yet even they<br />

recognized Jones as a legend.<br />

We sat during a long lunch and spoke in depth about his career spanning over 50<br />

years in the entertainment industry. He is still going strong, with his new Billboard<br />

hit song and his vast movie endeavors, as well as all of his scheduled appearances<br />

around the country and internationally.


You have been in the<br />

entertainment industry<br />

since 1966. Do you recall<br />

your first gig entertaining<br />

people?<br />

Yes I do. It was in “The Music<br />

Man.” I think I played Tommy<br />

Djilas, the dancing boyfriend<br />

of the mayor’s daughter. I<br />

was 15.<br />

Then you actually began<br />

acting before singing?<br />

I am an actor. I would say that<br />

before singing or anything,<br />

I am an actor. That’s how I<br />

really do approach every<br />

song from the point of view<br />

of an actor. Most pop songs<br />

that I consider a real song<br />

are a verse and the chorus,<br />

verse and the chorus, and tell<br />

a story. It’s kind of like a play<br />

in three or four minutes. You<br />

have a beginning, middle<br />

and an end, with a certain arc<br />

of drama. For me, I choose<br />

songs because in some way<br />

they help illustrate a story I<br />

want to tell. That’s how I’ve<br />

always appreciated songs<br />

and singing from an actor’s<br />

point of view. My mentor,<br />

who totally revitalized my<br />

interest in singing and also<br />

gave me the best perspective<br />

I believe, that helped me<br />

crystallize my thoughts as<br />

a singer and an actor, is<br />

Julie Wilson. She said that<br />

when you are in front of an<br />

audience, whether it be a<br />

big concert hall, a cabaret or<br />

just singing to someone at<br />

the dinner table, the words<br />

are what you use to tell the<br />

story with. You’ve got to be<br />

able to engage that audience<br />

with what the story is that<br />

you’re telling. You’ve got to<br />

get them involved from the<br />

beginning to the end. She<br />

helped me understand that<br />

as an actor the words are<br />

really the most important part<br />

of the song.<br />

Where were you the first<br />

time you heard one of your<br />

songs on the radio?<br />

I had heard “Macho Man”<br />

just a little bit. The first time<br />

I ever got out of the car was<br />

with my sister. I was in North<br />

Carolina seeing my family.<br />

I remember when “YMCA”<br />

came on. It was a local radio<br />

station in Raleigh, North<br />

Carolina. We stopped the<br />

car, and we jumped out and<br />

ran around it three times,<br />

like a Chinese fire drill. It was<br />

just that exciting! “Macho<br />

Man” was the first song that<br />

got radio play, but not to<br />

the extent of “YMCA.” It<br />

was on everybody’s list and<br />

played all the time. It was a<br />

pretty remarkable feeling. If<br />

I were to look at YouTube,<br />

it’s approaching 100 million<br />

views, just “YMCA.” With<br />

all of the stuff I’ve done with<br />

Village People, and all of the<br />

stuff I’ve done as a solo artist,<br />

I have close to 400 million<br />

views on YouTube, which is<br />

approaching half a billion.<br />

That is a remarkable<br />

statistic; however,<br />

considering “YMCA” is<br />

probably still one of the<br />

most popular<br />

songs in the<br />

world, and<br />

with the<br />

fact you are<br />

still making<br />

music that’s<br />

charting,<br />

I’m not too<br />

shocked.<br />

And YouTube<br />

hasn’t been<br />

around that<br />

long. If you<br />

think about<br />

the times on<br />

television,<br />

YouTube and<br />

radio, over 50<br />

years... I don’t<br />

think about it a<br />

lot, only when<br />

I’m asked or<br />

prompting.<br />

There are<br />

millions and<br />

millions and<br />

millions, if not billions of<br />

eyeballs and ears, that I have<br />

had the blessing and the<br />

luxury of performing for. I am<br />

very grateful at this ripe old<br />

age that I am still able to do<br />

that, and enjoy doing that<br />

and have had the balls to<br />

put out a CD last year called<br />

“Mister Right,” where I sat on<br />

a chair on the cover with no<br />

damn pants on.<br />

What is your proudest<br />

career moment?<br />

It’s nice to play for the<br />

Queen of England. It’s nice<br />

to perform for the presidents<br />

at inaugural balls. It’s nice to<br />

do outdoor concerts with a<br />

quarter of a million people.<br />

It’s nice when the helicopter<br />

picks you up on the rooftop<br />

of the hotel and flies over<br />

the crowd, like in the movie<br />

“The Rose.” It’s nice to make<br />

a movie with Bruce Jenner<br />

and Paul Sands and all of<br />

those great people. However,<br />

I think one of the proudest<br />

times I ever had was on a tour<br />

when we did 56 shows in 70<br />

days.


I remember when we played<br />

Greensboro Coliseum in<br />

North Carolina, an hour and<br />

a half from the town I was<br />

born in. My family booked<br />

four buses, and family and<br />

friends came to that concert.<br />

They were in the audience<br />

with posters, and they had<br />

big blowups of me when I<br />

was three years old, dressed<br />

as a cowboy. I remember my<br />

mom and dad and brother<br />

and sister and grandparents<br />

were there. That was a very<br />

proud moment, especially in<br />

the light of thinking about<br />

my dad, because they were<br />

all alive, and they got to see<br />

me do something that no<br />

one else in our family had<br />

ever done.<br />

It seems like you are the<br />

only one out of the Village<br />

People with a very active<br />

and thriving solo career.<br />

Do you ever see any of the<br />

others from the Village<br />

People? Do you know<br />

where they are today?<br />

Glenn Hughes who was<br />

the biker, the leather guy,<br />

has passed away. He died<br />

in 2001. The construction<br />

worker, Dave Hodo, does<br />

not perform with the group<br />

anymore. I think he retired<br />

about three or four years<br />

ago. Alex Briley, the soldier,<br />

he was performing with the<br />

group until recently; he may<br />

still be. Felipe Rose, the<br />

Native American, has been<br />

performing. Those are the<br />

only original ones.<br />

Since the Village People’s<br />

songs are still looked<br />

upon as gay anthems in<br />

many cases, I know that<br />

people wonder if the<br />

group members were gay,<br />

straight or whatever?<br />

First of all, I never did<br />

anything with any of them,<br />

so I can’t tell you first hand.<br />

I do not think that every<br />

member of the group was<br />

gay. I can tell you I’ve been<br />

with my husband 34 years.<br />

The Village People was a<br />

mixture of ethnicity, races,<br />

lifestyles, sexualities, sexual<br />

orientations. It was a true<br />

village. It was a mixture of<br />

everything. I know everybody<br />

in the group was not gay.<br />

Would you sing with them<br />

again?<br />

They’ve approached<br />

me, but I just don’t have<br />

time. I’m booked through<br />

next year, with film, with<br />

appearances. I think it would<br />

have been remarkable, if<br />

everybody had survived, to<br />

do a reunion as a group.<br />

We charted as a group 40<br />

years ago this summer with<br />

“San Francisco,” and that’s<br />

something I’m really glad I<br />

did. But 40 years later I’m<br />

the first and only one of<br />

the Village People that has<br />

charted as a solo artist. I<br />

really love that.<br />

Recently you completed<br />

a horror film titled “Tales<br />

of Poe.” I understand that<br />

you are a big fan of horror<br />

films. What inspired that?<br />

I love the genre. I was<br />

raised up in the ‘50s and the<br />

‘60s when TV was young.<br />

Universal and RKO would<br />

allow the movies to be<br />

played on television. So I<br />

saw the werewolf movies,<br />

all the Dracula movies, the<br />

Frankenstein movies, all on<br />

television. “Tales of Poe”<br />

is an anthology of three<br />

different stories. I’m in the<br />

middle one called “The Cask<br />

of Amontillado.” I think it’s<br />

on Netflix. It’s on Amazon.<br />

Have you seen any of “Child<br />

of the ‘70s”?<br />

I haven’t; that’s another<br />

series you recently did.<br />

I heard it was like an<br />

homage to sitcoms of the<br />

‘70s?<br />

It’s like a novela. Like a<br />

Spanish soap opera. Michael<br />

Vaccaro has created this Web<br />

series called “Child of the<br />

‘70s.” It’s got Ann Walker,<br />

Bruce Vilanch. Ann and I kind<br />

of played love interests with<br />

each other.<br />

You also have a new film<br />

coming out shortly?<br />

It’s called “Prepper’s Road,”<br />

where I play a righteous but<br />

evil backwoods preacher. It’s<br />

a horror film. He’s a minister<br />

for the West Nile Baptist<br />

Church.<br />

West Nile, like the virus?<br />

Like the virus.<br />

You also appear at Comic<br />

Con to sign autographs.<br />

I do these signing shows<br />

with Tony Todd, the African-<br />

American guy from “The<br />

Night of the Living Dead.”<br />

He does all the “Candy Man’<br />

movies. I’m trying to collect<br />

a portfolio of horror films,<br />

because I know that the<br />

fans and followers for these<br />

horror movies are very loyal,<br />

and there is so many of these<br />

signing conventions. So I<br />

am putting together in my<br />

career three or four or five or<br />

as many as possible horror<br />

films, so that I have that<br />

audience.<br />

So “Hard Times” is charting<br />

right now?<br />

“Hard Times” is the single<br />

that’s charting right now.<br />

It’s the first time that I have<br />

charted as a solo artist. It’s<br />

number three Break <strong>Out</strong>.<br />

By the time you put this<br />

together, it might do better.<br />

It’s the first single from the<br />

upcoming album that comes<br />

out in 2018 called “Still<br />

Making Noise.”<br />

What a cool name.<br />

I think it’s a great title. “Still<br />

Making Noise,” because I<br />

am. That’s out early this year,<br />

February I think.


Sum up all the noise you’re<br />

making, besides your hit<br />

song “Hard Times.”<br />

We’ve got “Tales of Poe”;<br />

it’s out on Google Play, it’s<br />

on Amazon, it’s on Netflix,<br />

and that’s the horror film. I<br />

just finished “The Rack Pack”<br />

earlier this year, it’s that one<br />

you saw about the bomb<br />

going off. It’s a comedy,<br />

family and children-friendly<br />

adventure<br />

film. Then<br />

there’s the<br />

one I’m<br />

shooting<br />

in October<br />

called<br />

“Prepper’s<br />

Grove,” and<br />

that should<br />

be out early<br />

next year.<br />

To me as<br />

an actor, I<br />

remember<br />

a teacher<br />

I had said,<br />

“Once you<br />

complete<br />

something,<br />

have<br />

something<br />

else to look<br />

forward to.<br />

Keep doing<br />

what you’re<br />

doing. If<br />

you’re an<br />

actor, act.<br />

Keep going<br />

from one<br />

project to<br />

another.”<br />

That’s not<br />

always the<br />

easiest<br />

thing to do, but I like my<br />

agent, and if I’m not having<br />

something to act in, I’ve got<br />

a record that I’m working on.<br />

Working on a record takes a<br />

lot, not only to record it, but<br />

to write it. Also, you have to<br />

promote it. You’ve got to be<br />

photographed for it, perform<br />

it on TV, and then if all of<br />

that’s not enough, I’ve got<br />

an agent for those signing<br />

conventions. You go for two<br />

or three days with 68,000<br />

people that come in, and you<br />

sign all those autographs.<br />

I was just there with Run<br />

DMC, Ralph Macchio, Lee<br />

Majors (the “Six Million<br />

Dollar Man”), and then there<br />

are the video games, the<br />

characters in video games. I<br />

don’t even know them, cause<br />

I don’t play them. But, I’m in<br />

one called “Postal lll.” It’s a<br />

shooter game. It’s worse than<br />

“Grand Theft Auto.” I didn’t<br />

realize when I did it that the<br />

object of the whole game is<br />

just to shoot people.<br />

I think the older kids play<br />

those kinds of games.<br />

They do, totally do. It’s kind<br />

of crazy. I play the leader of a<br />

biker gang. “YMCA” is used<br />

in Grand Theft Auto, too.<br />

“YMCA” will always be a<br />

phenomenon.<br />

It crosses all boundaries, all<br />

age levels, all cultures. It’s<br />

one of the most precious<br />

things that I can carry around<br />

in my pocket.<br />

For more about<br />

Randy Jones:<br />

randyjonesworld.com<br />

cowboyrandyjones<br />

@vpcowboy1


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BY SHAUN MELADY<br />

@ShaunMelady<br />

Listen, when I lived in Orlando, brunch was a<br />

time that was coveted by many people. If you<br />

could not make brunch at Ember for Sunday<br />

Fun-Day, you were having a serious case of<br />

FOMO (fear of missing out, for those of you<br />

who may not know). Here in Manhattan, you<br />

can turn the corner and find brunch at the<br />

nearest Dunkin Donuts for all you know.<br />

This time of day that falls at the quintessential<br />

hour. This meal. This gathering of momos,<br />

straights, trans-folk and all sorts of people.<br />

This is a time of fellowship. Can I get an amen<br />

from my fellow brunchers? Literally all of<br />

NYC should be saying “amen” right about<br />

now. It’s a thing here.<br />

Brunch is all about drinking as many<br />

mimosas, margaritas or bloody Marys as you<br />

can within the seemingly short 90-minute race,<br />

or plotting with your gal pals about going to<br />

see Chicago on Broadway over the coming<br />

weeks. Shout out to my friend who made this<br />

promise to our small, fun-filled group, and you<br />

know who you are - I’m holding you to it. It’s<br />

in writing, ya hear … or … see?<br />

After the marathon of unlimited spirits and<br />

the bloated stomachs from eating too much<br />

delicious food, one would think that it would<br />

be all over and time to take a nap. Nope!<br />

It’s time for more. Time to see which bar or<br />

lounge we can hit next in order to continue<br />

this celebration that happens only once a week<br />

- well, twice a week, depending on how badly<br />

brunch is calling your name.<br />

Brunch. Need<br />

I Say More?<br />

Since we were feeling great and carrying<br />

on our brunch day, we ended the day at<br />

Therapy. For those of you who do not know,<br />

Therapy is more than a wonderful session<br />

with a professional counselor. It’s also a gay<br />

nightclub on 52nd Street. Instead of a trained<br />

psychologist or psychiatrist listening to<br />

what you have going on in your life, you are<br />

venting, laughing, crying and much more with<br />

your old and new friends who are throwing<br />

one back with you, all while watching a drag<br />

show on the stage of the second story.<br />

Needless to say, brunch is more than just a<br />

meal here in fabulous NYC: It’s a staple.<br />

There are hundreds of restaurants that<br />

concoct an immaculate meal, and I’m ready<br />

to experience them all - and then hit the gym<br />

right after, because I do not<br />

want to gain the LBs.<br />

Who’s with me?<br />

After my posse and I were finished engorging<br />

ourselves at Fonda in Chelsea, we decided that<br />

we were going to this open-air bar right in the<br />

middle of Hell’s Kitchen called Atlas Social<br />

Club. It was great! It seemed as though the<br />

small bowl of Chex Mix sitting at the lounge<br />

table at the front was working miracles and<br />

casting out drunken demons, because we were<br />

able to continue and be fine for more. It was<br />

amazing!<br />

PHOTO BY: SHAUN MELADY


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