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Leadership | 3<br />

Flying is another passion in Rob Hoult’s<br />

life.<br />

The importance of leadership<br />

Following a 30-year career as an officer in the New<br />

Zealand Defence Force, Rob Hoult left the service and<br />

established his consultancy Team Leader Leadership<br />

Development Limited. <strong>Forward</strong> 50 talks to Rob about his<br />

career change, his passion for leadership and why we<br />

need good leaders across all sectors of our community.<br />

You were in the defence force for 30 years -<br />

what made you decide to step back into ‘civy<br />

street’?<br />

I’d run out of things to do! I’d made the decision back<br />

in the late ’90s to limit my career for the sake of gaining<br />

stability for my family, and had made the Selwyn District<br />

my home. The army had been fantastic in allowing me to<br />

work in niche areas and thus not have to move around<br />

over my last 10 years of service.<br />

Were there challenges moving from military<br />

to civilian life and if so what were they?<br />

Surprisingly, there were very few challenges. My roles<br />

in the military had been quite autonomous, and most<br />

of them had required wide engagement across other<br />

government departments and organisations in the<br />

private sector. The hardest thing was leaving the security<br />

of a salary and accepting the uncertainty that goes with<br />

owning and running your own business.<br />

I’m pretty laid back, but I also must confess that I<br />

found people out of the military are a little more relaxed<br />

about keeping to time – which isn’t necessarily a bad<br />

thing of course.<br />

I also had to go and buy a lot more clothes…there’s<br />

something about the ease and convenience of having a<br />

uniform. That said, I love being able to wear the work<br />

clothes I want to wear.<br />

When did you first discover your passion for<br />

leadership and what triggered it?<br />

I first tasted the challenge and satisfaction of<br />

leadership as a high school student, both at school, and<br />

through the Air Training Corps. If I’m really honest, I<br />

think my attraction for leadership roles comes from<br />

being pretty purposeful, and wanting to achieve. It’s much<br />

easier to get the things done that you believe in when<br />

you’re in charge!<br />

I’ve never considered myself as a particularly good<br />

leader – like many others, I am pretty conscious of what<br />

I’ve got wrong, and it’s not good to get too big for your<br />

boots.<br />

What are the essential characteristics of<br />

an effective leader and are these innate to a<br />

person or can they be learnt?<br />

There have been literally thousands of books written<br />

on the topic of leadership, but that said, I do have<br />

my opinion. Leadership effectiveness is pretty much<br />

determined by personality – things like being curious<br />

and open-minded, conscientiousness and determination,<br />

being interested in and getting along with other people,<br />

and having enough confidence to take on challenges.<br />

So, whilst these things are to a degree innate, most<br />

people have some capacity for leadership, especially<br />

if they are willing to learn and listen to feedback. I<br />

also think it’s important that those in leadership roles<br />

understand that they are there to serve their followers,<br />

as much as their followers serve them.<br />

Why do you see strong leadership as<br />

important – in the business community and in<br />

society as a whole?<br />

Leaders are the people that work out what needs to<br />

be done to make the world safer and more prosperous<br />

for their people (tribe, team, company, family, sports<br />

group etc.) and then harness the individual efforts of<br />

many into a strong and unified collective effort. It’s<br />

all about understanding what motivates the people<br />

that make up the team and pointing them in the right<br />

direction to get the important things done.<br />

What difference can a good leader make<br />

and what are the outcomes if the quality<br />

of leadership in an organisation is less than<br />

ideal?<br />

A good leader makes all the difference. The symptoms<br />

of a good leader are a highly performing team of people<br />

who get the job done whilst feeling safe, contented and<br />

enthused.<br />

Poor leadership is disastrous to a team or group. The<br />

group won’t achieve the things it sets out to do, there<br />

will be conflict within the team, and the end result is that<br />

people leave the team because it does not give them<br />

what they both deserve and need as a human.<br />

How did you develop your Team Leader<br />

programme?<br />

I spent over a decade designing and running leader and<br />

team development activities and courses for all levels of<br />

the New Zealand Army and the wider defence force. This<br />

has given me a very wide perspective on how to grow<br />

capable leaders and high-performing teams. I also had the<br />

privilege of leading military teams both in New Zealand<br />

and in multi-national contexts overseas throughout my<br />

30-year career.<br />

Leaders and teams have similar characteristics<br />

no matter what organisation they exist in. Once<br />

I understand the culture and context of a client<br />

organisation, I am able to use all of my expertise and<br />

experience to develop world-class team and leader<br />

development opportunities for my clients.<br />

One of my highlights this year has been working with<br />

the successful Crusaders Super Rugby team. My role was<br />

to help them be the very best team members that they<br />

could be.<br />

Are there any leaders in New Zealand – in any<br />

field – that you particularly admire, and if so<br />

why?<br />

There are so many outstanding New Zealand leaders<br />

that it’s hard to single one out. Two that I will mention<br />

are locals – Scott Roberston, the Crusaders coach, who<br />

has a very expressive style, yet has a big heart – he<br />

completely understands what makes each and every<br />

one of his players tick. The other is Peter Beggs, the<br />

boss of Antarctica New Zealand. Peter is an incredible<br />

ambassador for Christchurch and New Zealand, and<br />

leads through very strong values, a sense of fairness and<br />

a keen curiosity for possibilities and how we can build a<br />

better New Zealand.<br />

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