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12—SATURDAY Vanguard, AUGUST 3, 2019<br />

Why Yoruba<br />

don’t speak<br />

with one voice<br />

Afenifere scribe, Basorun Seh<strong>in</strong>de Arogbofa bemoans<br />

•Tells Nigerians to watch out for a united tribe<br />

•Traces division to Awolowo’s exit<br />

•Frowns at Yoruba leaders who have turned beggars<br />

•Asserts that ‘We’ll rise aga<strong>in</strong>st them at the appropriate time’<br />

•Recalls what Obasanjo did to Bola Ige<br />

•Restructur<strong>in</strong>g will save Nigeria<br />

By Dayo Johnson Akure<br />

NATIONAL Secretary of the Pan- Yoruba socio- political<br />

group, Afenifere, Basorun Seh<strong>in</strong>de Arogbofa recently<br />

turned 80. He spoke with Saturday Vanguard on a<br />

number of national issues. He gave an <strong>in</strong>sight <strong>in</strong>to what<br />

led to the crisis <strong>in</strong> Afenifere and the allegations and<br />

counter allegations of those who destroyed the group,<br />

spate of <strong>in</strong>security <strong>in</strong> the south west, the vexed RUGA<br />

Programme and appo<strong>in</strong>tment of new m<strong>in</strong>isters<br />

amongst other issues of national <strong>in</strong>terest.<br />

Excerpts-:<br />

There are allegations and counter allegations<br />

of those who destroyed Afenifere. Can you give<br />

us an <strong>in</strong>sight as to what led to the crisis.<br />

l will say ego was one of the reasons,<br />

<strong>in</strong>ord<strong>in</strong>ate ambition of some, <strong>in</strong>discipl<strong>in</strong>e and<br />

what we now call the youths’ idea of try<strong>in</strong>g to<br />

be on the fast lane. These are the ma<strong>in</strong> reasons.<br />

Dur<strong>in</strong>g the time of Pa Obafemi Awolowo,<br />

there was discipl<strong>in</strong>e even though, there were<br />

already signs of <strong>in</strong>ord<strong>in</strong>ate ambition that<br />

could cause a lot of havoc. After his<br />

(Awolowo) death, it became<br />

more manifest. You would<br />

recollect the story of some<br />

people claim<strong>in</strong>g that his shoes<br />

were rather too large for them.<br />

The struggle was already there.<br />

After that episode outsiders<br />

penetrated the Afenifere and<br />

the situation became worse.<br />

For example, when President<br />

Olusegun Obasanjo wanted a<br />

second term, they had to play<br />

the governors aga<strong>in</strong>st one<br />

another to such an extent that<br />

only one of the governors, the<br />

late Chief Adebayo Adefarati<br />

stood with the Awolowo’s<br />

philosophy. All the other<br />

governors went the way of<br />

Obasanjo. You know Obasanjo<br />

is a military man, and people<br />

said he lured them by<br />

promis<strong>in</strong>g to assist them to<br />

have a second term. And <strong>in</strong> that<br />

k<strong>in</strong>d of situation, you could<br />

remember his relationship with<br />

Bola Ige. They were very close<br />

and for reasons best known to<br />

Bola Ige, he went to Obasanjo.<br />

And when he got to him, what<br />

Obasanjo did to him is now<br />

history. He was said not to be fair to<br />

him.<br />

Aga<strong>in</strong>, Chief Falae and Bola Ige<br />

contested for the presidential candidacy of<br />

AD. That was said to have really annoyed<br />

Bola Ige to such an extent that he found it<br />

difficult to cooperate with the leadership<br />

of Afenifere. So from there, a lot of th<strong>in</strong>gs<br />

started happen<strong>in</strong>g with different factions<br />

com<strong>in</strong>g up.<br />

One house was not handed over to Baba<br />

Fasoranti then because it was already a<br />

divided house and that is what we have<br />

been try<strong>in</strong>g to manage ever s<strong>in</strong>ce.<br />

As at the time Chief Adesanya was<br />

leav<strong>in</strong>g office<br />

apparently because of<br />

ill-health and Chief<br />

Fasoranti was made<br />

the leader jealousy<br />

crept <strong>in</strong> on the<br />

leadership and we<br />

can’t rule out T<strong>in</strong>ubu’s<br />

role <strong>in</strong> this k<strong>in</strong>d of<br />

situation. I’m aware<br />

that Afenifere literally<br />

begged him to come <strong>in</strong><br />

and let us know what<br />

he had <strong>in</strong> m<strong>in</strong>d so that<br />

we could come<br />

together. I wouldn’t<br />

know why he refused<br />

that opportunity and<br />

the gap became wider<br />

and wider.<br />

Only those who see<br />

Afenifere as a<br />

philosophy are the<br />

authentic. We are the<br />

authentic Afenifere. We<br />

are the ones who have<br />

the <strong>in</strong>heritance from<br />

Awolowo to Baba<br />

Ajas<strong>in</strong> to Abraham<br />

Adesanya and now to Chief Fasoranti. It<br />

has never been <strong>in</strong> history where all the<br />

Yoruba people come together and speak<br />

with one voice. When Awolowo was there,<br />

Yoruba people did not speak with one<br />

voice, but majority of the people were with<br />

Awolowo and he was able to br<strong>in</strong>g them<br />

together. While he was fight<strong>in</strong>g for true<br />

federalism not all of the members were <strong>in</strong><br />

support. He wanted Yoruba to have a<br />

voice, not just follow, follow voice. This is<br />

what has been happen<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Afenifere for<br />

a long time. It is not that com<strong>in</strong>g together<br />

is not possible, but everyth<strong>in</strong>g is be<strong>in</strong>g<br />

monitized as some are lured away with<br />

Dur<strong>in</strong>g the time of Pa<br />

Obafemi Awolowo,<br />

there was discipl<strong>in</strong>e<br />

even though, there<br />

were already signs of<br />

<strong>in</strong>ord<strong>in</strong>ate ambition<br />

that could cause a lot<br />

of havoc. After his<br />

(Awolowo) death, it<br />

became more<br />

manifest<br />

•Basorun Seh<strong>in</strong>de<br />

Arogbofa<br />

money. That is why I said, our own<br />

Afenifere has an ideology, it has a<br />

philosophy, it is about welfarism and if<br />

you preach welfarism, you can’t be<br />

popular, the leadership can’t be popular.<br />

What we do know will happen is this, at a<br />

po<strong>in</strong>t <strong>in</strong> time, when we suffer, all of us will<br />

see reason to be united. It happened<br />

dur<strong>in</strong>g the time of Abacha. We were<br />

exceptional. We fought Abacha to a<br />

standstill without fir<strong>in</strong>g a gun. Yoruba<br />

people will come together. A Yoruba man<br />

doesn’t want an <strong>in</strong>sult but he will fight for<br />

what belongs to him. Not everybody will<br />

come under Afenifere, it is not possible,<br />

when it started, it had never been like that.<br />

But all I know is that circumstances will<br />

br<strong>in</strong>g us together.<br />

Why is it difficult for Yoruba leaders to<br />

speak with one voice<br />

The Yoruba man that I know is highly<br />

cultured, highly exposed, cerebral. He<br />

wants to develop a new idea and follow<br />

his m<strong>in</strong>d, all these th<strong>in</strong>gs make it difficult<br />

for anybody to just tailor the th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g or<br />

the m<strong>in</strong>d of an average Yoruba man. From<br />

time immemorial, except <strong>in</strong> time of crisis,<br />

Yoruba people have always found it<br />

difficult to come together, they rationalize<br />

on issues. If you look at Yoruba history,<br />

you will discover, even though very late,<br />

that Yoruba warlords were able to rally<br />

their people <strong>in</strong> the Oke Mesi war when<br />

they were able to bail themselves out and<br />

put an end to the Fulani menace. Even<br />

dur<strong>in</strong>g the time of Awolowo, despite all he<br />

did, the Yoruba people did not speak with<br />

one voice, but the majority were on the<br />

side of Awolowo. Not everybody was with<br />

him and the reason is clear from what I<br />

have said that Yoruba man doesn’t want to<br />

be a “follow, follow man” at all. But at the<br />

right time, maybe when Yoruba people<br />

discover that they are be<strong>in</strong>g enslaved or<br />

conquered or tortured, they will forget<br />

their differences and come together from<br />

different groups to fight their cause. What<br />

is happen<strong>in</strong>g now is not far from what<br />

happened <strong>in</strong> the past about various<br />

divisions among Yoruba groups and<br />

leaders. Apart from materialism that has<br />

crept <strong>in</strong>to our politics which has<br />

accentuated the situation, I am not<br />

surprised at what is happen<strong>in</strong>g. The word<br />

‘Afenifere’ is generic, anybody can say he’s<br />

Afenifere, no problem about that because<br />

Afenifere means “you like me and I like<br />

you” and Yoruba people like one another<br />

when they are <strong>in</strong> groups or <strong>in</strong> their homes.<br />

The issue of religion doesn’t separate or<br />

divide them , anybody can claim to be<br />

Afenifere at any time. But <strong>in</strong> our own<br />

Afenifere, the one headed by Pa Rueben<br />

Fasonranti, members of the group see<br />

Afenifere as a philosophy, far away from<br />

the generic terms, to us Afenifere is a<br />

philosophy. That was what we <strong>in</strong>herited<br />

from the founder, Chief Obafemi<br />

Awolowo, Chief Ajas<strong>in</strong>, Papa Adesanya<br />

down to Fasoranti. The Afenifere we<br />

<strong>in</strong>herited from these people is Afenifere<br />

that has a philosophy and what is this<br />

philosophy? Welfarism, service to the<br />

people and this is espoused <strong>in</strong> the welfare<br />

philosophy of education for all, that’s how<br />

we show our love to the people, that once<br />

you have education you will be a better<br />

somebody. Then job creation for<br />

everybody, if you look at what is<br />

happen<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> the country now,<br />

unemployment is becom<strong>in</strong>g the bane of<br />

the country. So our philosophy is that able<br />

bodied people should be ga<strong>in</strong>fully<br />

employed. Then, another philosophy is<br />

that healthcare should be accessible to<br />

Cont<strong>in</strong>ues on Page 13

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