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14—SATURDAY Vanguard, AUGUST 3, 2019<br />
EDO: How our trouble<br />
started – Speaker<br />
Political solution be<strong>in</strong>g<br />
foreclosed for court solution<br />
‘My colleagues said they would<br />
only do what Oshiomhole wanted'<br />
Rt. Hon Frank Okiye, the Speaker of the Edo State House of Assembly speaks on the crisis <strong>in</strong> the<br />
state legislature, the threat of take over by the Senate and the role of the All Progressives Congress<br />
(APC) National Chairman, Comrade Adams Oshiomhole <strong>in</strong> the crisis, among others.<br />
•Rt. Hon<br />
Frank<br />
Okiye<br />
You’re the speaker of a house that is the<br />
source of controversy now. How did the<br />
problem <strong>in</strong> Edo State Assembly start? Let’s<br />
have the details from you.<br />
Before the elections, the 24 APC<br />
lawmakers who were candidates as at then<br />
were already <strong>in</strong>teract<strong>in</strong>g and some of them<br />
even as candidates were already see<strong>in</strong>g me<br />
as their possible speaker because of the way<br />
I emerged as candidate. So, the relationship<br />
was cordial as candidates then and even<br />
when we won the elections. So, go<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>to<br />
the election that took place on March 9, we<br />
all did campaigns together and we<br />
congratulated ourselves upon our victory.<br />
In fact, when all the 24 were declared<br />
w<strong>in</strong>ners, they started call<strong>in</strong>g me their<br />
speaker, even before we got sworn <strong>in</strong>. About<br />
eight of them gathered and met with me,<br />
two of them were even negotiat<strong>in</strong>g what<br />
offices they could hold and what committee<br />
they could be assigned. Everyth<strong>in</strong>g was go<strong>in</strong>g<br />
on smoothly with<strong>in</strong> our fold until the body,<br />
Edo Peoples Movement, emerged and then<br />
trouble started.<br />
What did the Edo Peoples Movement do?<br />
I just noticed that these same persons that<br />
we were speak<strong>in</strong>g cordially as brothers and<br />
soon-to-be colleagues started foot-dragg<strong>in</strong>g<br />
and some were not even answer<strong>in</strong>g my calls<br />
any longer, then I knew that there was a<br />
problem. At the end of the<br />
day, everyth<strong>in</strong>g snowballed<br />
<strong>in</strong>to whether the lawmakerelects<br />
were will<strong>in</strong>g to be<br />
<strong>in</strong>augurated. They now<br />
started say<strong>in</strong>g that they were<br />
wait<strong>in</strong>g for the green light<br />
from Oshiomhole and his<br />
stance on the house<br />
leadership; that if he asked<br />
them to vote otherwise, they<br />
would do so, but if he asked<br />
them not to vote otherwise<br />
then I could be sure of their<br />
votes. That was how the<br />
whole problem started with<br />
the horsetrad<strong>in</strong>g and<br />
lobby<strong>in</strong>g.<br />
What was the position of<br />
the Edo state chapter of the<br />
APC when the horsetrad<strong>in</strong>g<br />
commenced s<strong>in</strong>ce all 24 are<br />
from the same party?<br />
The party actually stood up<br />
to be counted and one must<br />
commend the effort of the<br />
party <strong>in</strong> the state. The party<br />
made its stance known as to the shar<strong>in</strong>g of<br />
offices for the Assembly based on the<br />
pr<strong>in</strong>ciple of equity to ensure that no zone or<br />
constituency <strong>in</strong> the state was left out. They<br />
carried everyone along <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g those who<br />
refused to come for their <strong>in</strong>auguration. That<br />
was why its irritat<strong>in</strong>g and unfair when<br />
people said Governor Obaseki was the one<br />
who handpicked pr<strong>in</strong>cipal members of the<br />
house. In fairness to him, he was not <strong>in</strong>volved<br />
<strong>in</strong> the process. It was the party that devised<br />
The section of the<br />
constitution which<br />
empowered National<br />
Assembly to take<br />
over the functions of<br />
a State House of<br />
Assembly is clearly<br />
and unambiguously<br />
stated <strong>in</strong> sections<br />
11(4) and 11(5) of the<br />
Constitution<br />
the framework on the emergence of the<br />
leadership of the House based on the<br />
pr<strong>in</strong>ciple of equal representation. Go and<br />
check it, the constituted leadership <strong>in</strong> the<br />
house is balanced and every constituency<br />
has someth<strong>in</strong>g to show. The party actually<br />
came out clearly with its stand as to who are<br />
the people that should occupy each of the<br />
offices and our names were declared <strong>in</strong> the<br />
presence of stakeholders of the party, all 24<br />
members-elect were present at the meet<strong>in</strong>g.<br />
Why didn’t they align with the decision<br />
of the party?<br />
They were say<strong>in</strong>g all sorts of th<strong>in</strong>gs and it<br />
was at that po<strong>in</strong>t we started hav<strong>in</strong>g all the<br />
problems that we are now hav<strong>in</strong>g. They said<br />
Comrade Oshiomhole, the National<br />
Chairman of our party, must tell them this<br />
and tell them that. They said he was the only<br />
one that could talk to them and eventually<br />
they told me that Comrade had ordered that<br />
they should go the other way. Later, they<br />
came and said they wanted money. I told<br />
them that I had not been <strong>in</strong>augurated and<br />
they could not be mak<strong>in</strong>g a demand for<br />
money. They said no, that they knew that<br />
Governor Obaseki wouldn’t give them<br />
money because some of them knew the<br />
governor very well and that if he didn’t give<br />
them money at that time, he would not give<br />
them aga<strong>in</strong>. They also said<br />
that they figured the<br />
governor was <strong>in</strong> support of<br />
my candidacy and they<br />
would not agree because<br />
they didn’t want anyone<br />
who had the support of the<br />
governor as the speaker. So,<br />
until the party met with us<br />
and rolled out the list of the<br />
people they wanted <strong>in</strong> the<br />
office, we all thought it<br />
would be easy and over.<br />
What eventually<br />
culm<strong>in</strong>ated at the<br />
<strong>in</strong>auguration day of the<br />
elected members?<br />
It was clear that they had<br />
other ideas than the wish of<br />
the party. On the Monday<br />
morn<strong>in</strong>g that we were<br />
supposed to be<br />
<strong>in</strong>augurated, they acted<br />
strangely. You would call<br />
Mr A, he wouldn’t answer;<br />
same went for Mr. B. Some<br />
said they were <strong>in</strong> Abuja,<br />
some said they were <strong>in</strong><br />
Sapele, some said that they had not heard<br />
from the Comrade and all k<strong>in</strong>ds of stories<br />
but we didn’t know that they went to address<br />
a press conference. But before that day, we<br />
were all like brothers, we were all meet<strong>in</strong>g<br />
like a team, we were all together <strong>in</strong> the Code<br />
of Conduct Bureau. So, the idea of say<strong>in</strong>g<br />
some persons had to be <strong>in</strong>vited from a<br />
distance was not there. So, for them to say<br />
that they were not <strong>in</strong>vited or the <strong>in</strong>vitation<br />
wasn’t published <strong>in</strong> newspapers was just an<br />
•Obaseki<br />
excuse to <strong>in</strong>validate what was legally and<br />
logically done. On the <strong>in</strong>auguration day,<br />
about five of us were there at the Assembly<br />
at about 2:30pm and we waited for the rest<br />
of them. Before we knew it, some others<br />
jo<strong>in</strong>ed us. When we got to about n<strong>in</strong>e, that<br />
was around 4pm or thereabout, we told the<br />
Clerk that the law does not say everyone<br />
must be complete and that s<strong>in</strong>ce we had<br />
formed a quorum, we could then go ahead<br />
and get <strong>in</strong>augurated. It was after this that<br />
the Clerk commenced the bus<strong>in</strong>ess of<br />
<strong>in</strong>auguration and someone nom<strong>in</strong>ated me<br />
and the nom<strong>in</strong>ation was seconded by<br />
another and the Clerk asked for a further<br />
nom<strong>in</strong>ation but there was none. That was<br />
how I became the Speaker of the Edo State<br />
House of Assembly ditto for the Deputy<br />
Speaker and other pr<strong>in</strong>cipal officers. So, we<br />
rose that day, adjourned sitt<strong>in</strong>g and s<strong>in</strong>ce<br />
then we have been sitt<strong>in</strong>g.<br />
Are you say<strong>in</strong>g that the Edo State House<br />
of Assembly has been sitt<strong>in</strong>g and<br />
conduct<strong>in</strong>g parliamentary activities?<br />
We have been sitt<strong>in</strong>g as a parliament. I<br />
just drove out of office after the plenary<br />
session. Lawmakers are go<strong>in</strong>g about their<br />
committee work. We just <strong>in</strong>vited the<br />
Commissioner for Works to appear before<br />
the House over a matter of public<br />
importance.<br />
Senator Rochas Okorocha cautioned his<br />
colleagues aga<strong>in</strong>st the swift takeover of<br />
the Edo State Assembly. Why do you th<strong>in</strong>k<br />
the National Assembly plans to take over<br />
the Assembly which you preside?<br />
I have said it before on several occasions<br />
that we know who is beat<strong>in</strong>g the drum for<br />
them <strong>in</strong> the National Assembly. They have<br />
found themselves <strong>in</strong> position of a stooge to<br />
make it look like they cannot th<strong>in</strong>k outside<br />
the box, it’s unfortunate. It wasn’t only<br />
Okorocha that spoke aga<strong>in</strong>st the<br />
undemocratic tendency of the Senate,<br />
another lawmaker who is a lawyer from<br />
Benue also asked them where the decision<br />
they are tak<strong>in</strong>g on Edo Assembly is supported<br />
<strong>in</strong> the constitution, ask<strong>in</strong>g them where the<br />
time and venue of tak<strong>in</strong>g over a state<br />
Assembly are spelled out.<br />
The truth is that the Edo State Assembly<br />
and my office as the speaker are not the real<br />
targets of this crisis. In fact, I can’t f<strong>in</strong>d<br />
myself anywhere <strong>in</strong> the whole scheme. The<br />
plot is actually aimed at Governor Obaseki<br />
and stopp<strong>in</strong>g him from gett<strong>in</strong>g a return<br />
•Oshiomole<br />
ticket as governor next year. Comrade<br />
Oshiomhole is actually after Obaseki, the<br />
state Assembly was only a smokescreen to<br />
his plans. The idea now is to take over the<br />
house, destabilize the state and possibly<br />
impeach the governor. The Edo Peoples<br />
Movement that orig<strong>in</strong>ated this crisis have<br />
boasted that they will ensure that the<br />
governor does not come back for a second<br />
tenure. But I said to people that that is not<br />
the decision for them to make for our state.<br />
We don’t know what Oshiomhole wants.<br />
Oshiomhole is the one beh<strong>in</strong>d Edo Assembly<br />
crisis and he is simply after Obaseki.<br />
However, the door is open for the rema<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />
lawmaker-elect, they should come to the<br />
Assembly, complete and regularize their<br />
documentation and they will be sworn <strong>in</strong>.<br />
What is the way out of the crisis?<br />
I guess a political solution to the matter is<br />
gett<strong>in</strong>g foreclosed by the day and the courts<br />
may have to be the solution provider now.<br />
The National Assembly should know that<br />
the lawmakers that they are purportedly<br />
fight<strong>in</strong>g for are already <strong>in</strong> the court of law.<br />
The senate cannot be seen to be go<strong>in</strong>g<br />
aga<strong>in</strong>st its own rule of <strong>in</strong>terfer<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> any<br />
matter that is already before the court.<br />
They should not allow themselves to be<br />
tossed around. We are a law-abid<strong>in</strong>g people<br />
and we are wait<strong>in</strong>g for the verdict of the<br />
court on this issue. The National Assembly<br />
must take note that they are to act as agents<br />
of peace and not merchants of crisis. Edo<br />
State has always been peaceful and any<br />
attempt for them to carry out this order<br />
will certa<strong>in</strong>ly disrupt the peace that is<br />
currently be<strong>in</strong>g enjoyed <strong>in</strong> the state. The<br />
section of the constitution which<br />
empowered National Assembly to take<br />
over the functions of a State House of<br />
Assembly is clearly and unambiguously<br />
stated <strong>in</strong> sections 11(4) and 11(5) of the<br />
Constitution. These conditions do not<br />
apply here <strong>in</strong> Edo Assembly as the House<br />
has been perform<strong>in</strong>g legislative<br />
bus<strong>in</strong>esses <strong>in</strong> a peaceful atmosphere with<br />
me presid<strong>in</strong>g as the Speaker. S<strong>in</strong>ce<br />
<strong>in</strong>auguration, the House has adopted the<br />
bus<strong>in</strong>ess calendar, constituted statutory<br />
committees, cleared commissioners and<br />
passed several resolutions. This is why I<br />
advised my colleagues who have refused to<br />
be <strong>in</strong>augurated to present themselves for<br />
documentation and <strong>in</strong>auguration <strong>in</strong> other<br />
for them to give quality representation to<br />
the people who elected them.