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BY EILEEN SHAPIRO
CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT
BIANCA DEL RIO
“IT’S JESTER JOKE” COMING TO
CARNEGIE HALL, NYC.
The first Queen ever to headline
Carnegie Hall as well as London’s
Wembley Arena . Bianca’s 40
city North American tour will be
the biggest solo Drag tour ever
as the self proclaimed “Clown
in a Gown” will be telling her
tales of adventure, and talking
about topics from family to social
media!
The funniest, most immersive,
innovative and busiest queen
on the planet, Bianca Del Rio is
currently engaged in a massive
worldwide tour titled “It’s Jester
Joke.” Since winning Season 6
of “RuPaul’s Drag Race,” Del Rio
has not stopped entertaining
the masses with her sarcastic,
hysterical wit. If you haven’t been
insulted by Del Rio, then you
haven’t lived!
Del Rio is clearly the most
sought-after queen in the entire
universe. She is an actor, a
comedian, a costume designer
and sometimes Roy Haylock.
At age 17, Haylock was already
winning awards for his clothing
designs, making clothes for the
New Orleans Opera, and shortly
after winning the New Orleans
Gay Entertainer of the Year as
Bianca.
After relocating to New York
following Hurricane Katrina,
Del Rio worked as a costume
designer for Broadway shows,
and on the side worked as Bianca
with Lady Bunny. He also starred
in the role of Angel in the first
regional production of Rent. In
2013 Logo announced that Del
Rio would be competing in the
sixth season of “RuPaul’s Drag
Race.” She won the competition,
having never had to lip sync for
her life.
Her follow-up to “Drag
Race” was the lead role in an
independent film, “Hurricane
Bianca,” and later a sequel called
“Hurricane Bianca: From Russia
With Hate.” Since then, Del
Rio has written several comedy
shows and continues to tour
worldwide, selling out every
show.
It’s always an honor and a
pleasure to speak with Bianca
Del Rio. I caught up with her in
Stockholm while she was touring,
and we had a very funny and
intimate conversation.
Watch out, New York! Bianca
Del Rio will be performing live
at Carnegie Hall on October 6,
2019.

INTERVIEW
So you’re on this massive tour.
Seems like a life-long tour.
Completely, but I have no complaints.
BIANCA DEL RIO:
“IT’S JESTER JOKE” TOUR
SUNDAY, OCT 6
@ CARNEGIE HALL
You’re touring the globe, and I’ve
got to think that not everyone
speaks English that great. How is it
that you think they understand your
brand of humor?
Interesting enough, I think because
of “Drag Race” in particular, that they
are fans of the show. Usually they kind
of know what they are getting into.
I don’t think the average person walks
down the street and sees a picture
of me and says, “Oh, let’s go to that
show.” Luckily they are fans of “Drag
Race” and have been following any of
the nonsense that we’ve been doing.
PHOTO CREDIT RENE KOALA
They probably
don’t speak the
best English,
but if they don’t
understand it,
hey, it’s showbiz.
I mean, I
know American
people
that don’t
understand
what the hell
I’m saying. So
you never know.

You’ve got a point.
When did you realize
that you were funny?
When I was younger I
never thought of it as
being funny. I was just
told that I wasn’t allowed
to say that or to publicly
put it out there. I would
say things that were
probably the worst things
to say, like at a funeral
or in front of a relative.
I think that I would get
a laugh and they would
also say, “You’re not
supposed to say that.” So
that just kind of stuck in
my head and is my theme
throughout my life from
early on. I had three older
sisters and a brother, so I
had to do something to
get attention.
I think that you probably
did that well.
It’s been a journey.
What is the largest
audience you’ve ever
performed in front of
live?
I think through the past
two years we’ve moved
to larger venues, but my
largest is coming up soon,
which is Wembley Arena
in England, which I think is
10,000. It’s insane to think
about it in one night. But
before that I think it was
anywhere between 3,000
and 3,500 that has been
the largest I’ve done
in one night. Now I’ve
done multiple nights in
the same city in London,
actually last year, which is
why we had to move to a
larger venue. So that’s a
little daunting, but that’s
yet to come.
I’m sure you will sell that
arena out.
We pray.
What is your ultimate
stage fantasy?
For me it’s as long as
people are laughing.
That’s my fantasy. Each
time that we are doing a
show we often wonder.
What goes through my
head is my biggest fear,
which is someone not
laughing. When they do
laugh, I’m not asking for
anything else. If I make
it to the stage and my
wig stays on, that’s the
ultimate.
What do you want your
legacy to be?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Look,
I can’t think about that. I
can’t just try to plan my
life when I’m gone. I can’t
plan what people think
of me after I’m gone.
I don’t give a shit, I’m
out. When I’m dead, I’m
dead. The thing I don’t
want someone to say is,
“Oh, that bitch owes me
money.” I’d hate that.
But when I’m dead, say
whatever you want. If you
say something horrible, I’ll
just come and haunt you.
Do you plan on doing
this the rest of your life?
Hell no! People don’t
realize that drag is a
commitment. It’s been
a huge part of my life,
and I’ve enjoyed it, but I
don’t think I will be doing
it forever. I think there
would be a cap.

You just have to trust
your instincts. You say,
“Hey, I’ve had a good
run.” I’m going on 24
years, which is kind
of wild. I didn’t plan it
this far, so it’s kind of
exciting to see what’s
around the corner. But I
definitely don’t think it’s
going to be forever.
ASIDE FROM
PERFORMING, DO
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE
A LIFE?
Not really. I prefer it
that way. When you
commit to a tour, three
or four months on the
road compacted... I
kind of go from city to
city every day, and that
I enjoy. It works better
for each show, for
continuity, and it works
better for me. So I do
enjoy it, and then when
I’m done I’ve been
putting off buying a
home for the past three
years. So I’m hoping
maybe when the tour is
over I will get a minute.
But usually, thankfully,
something else will
come up, whether a
film or a musical, and
I’ll jump at the chance. I
also don’t pass up work,
so I don’t really have
much of a life now. It’s
a lot of organizing, but
not much else is going
on. And it’s sad.
IF YOU COULD
HAVE ME ASK YOU
ANY QUESTION ON
THE PLANET, WHAT
WOULD YOU WANT
ME TO ASK YOU, AND
HOW WOULD YOU
ANSWER IT?
OMG, I’m asked a lot of
questions in interviews,
but there is nothing that
I think I’d want them
to ask me. I mean, I’m
not afraid to answer
anything. There is
nothing that I haven’t
said already. I’m one
of those where being
baffled by a question
never comes my way.
THERE’S GOT TO BE
SOMETHING YOU’RE
DYING TO BE ASKED.
Well, I usually say it
anyway. Have you met
me? Afraid of using
words? Never!
YES, THAT I KNOW.
WHAT’S THE BIGGEST
CHALLENGE YOU’VE
EVER FACED?
Oh, every day. It’s
called shaving! It’s
the worst thing in the
world. Shaving is a
fucking nightmare! The
other challenge is lost
luggage. I can only say
what is a drag queen
without their luggage?
A man! I think I could
survive anything but
those two things:
shaving and if you lose
your luggage. It’s a
nightmare.
I’VE SEEN YOU PAINT.
It happens. Once
you’ve got it on, it’s
fine. Setting up, laying
everything out, it’s quite
the challenge.
I USUALLY ASK
WHAT THE MOST
EMBARRASSING
MOMENT SOMEONE
HAS HAD IS, BUT IN
YOUR CASE, HAVE
YOU EVER BEEN
EMBARRASSED?
Yes, 24 years of drag!
I’ve been embarrassed
all my life. Ask my
father.
WELL, IS THERE
A MOMENT THAT
STANDS OUT IN YOUR
CAREER THAT YOU
ARE MOST PROUD OF
AND WILL REMEMBER
THE REST OF YOUR
LIFE?
I think the best moment
in my life was when
I had the chance to
do “In Bed With Joan
Rivers,” and the fact
that I’ve always been
influenced by her and
her brilliance I loved. To
actually make her laugh,
I’m so grateful that it
happened, documented
that it happened,
before she died. There
is nothing better to me.
How fucking lucky.
SO JOAN WAS A BIG
INFLUENCE IN YOUR
LIFE AND CAREER?
Oh, without a doubt.
Joan was obviously,
and so was Don Rickles.
They were my favorites,
not just because of
their comedy, which
was hilarious, but
also because they
kept working up until
they died. I think it’s
amazing, and I can
definitely relate to that.
I thought they were as
funny as ever. And what
a way to go.
IS THERE ANYTHING
THAT I HAVEN’T
COVERED THAT
YOU WANT TO TALK
ABOUT?
Well, that I’m excited to
do the tour in Europe,
and then I have the
U.K., and then the U.S.,
and New York! I’m
super excited to be in
New York, my second
hometown outside
of New Orleans. I’m
looking forward to
seeing everybody there.

BY IAN-MICHAEL BERGERON
@ianmichaelinwonderland
On September 6 through 8, fans of
“RuPaul’s Drag Race” poured into
the Javits Center for the third-annual
RuPaul’s Drag Con NYC. And I was
one of them.
Prepped with a badge around my
neck that proudly proclaimed PRESS
in all capital letters, I stomped my
way onto the Pink Carpet in a pair
of four-inch block heels. (When my
feet began to ache an hour later, I
kept repeating my RuPaul mantra:
“You betta work!”) There’s something
electric in the air: I know that’s a
cliché, used time and time again,
used to death, but it’s the best way to
describe the energy in the center.
I arrived on Friday at 2:30, just in time
to meet RuPaul’s newest batch of girls
from the U.K. It was inspiring to see
how excited all the fans were to meet
them, and I was excited too, excited
to see a different culture’s drag. (And
most excited to meet Blu Hydrangea,
quickly becoming a fan favorite.)
Later, several of the girls from “Drag
Race Thailand” performed, including
Angele Anang, winner of Season Two. I
overheard a group of girls all cosplaying
as the winner of Season Ten, Aquaria,
murmuring about “Drag Race Australia.”
On Sunday, in a RuTalk with RuPaul and
Whoopi Goldberg, RuPaul said, “This
is like the world we were promised in
the ‘60s and ‘70s, finally coming to life.”
Whoopi responded, “It’s up to us to
create the world we want. We can’t wait
for other people to do it for us. We have
to talk it into existence.”
For me, the best part of RuPaul’s Drag
Con is immersing yourself in queer art.
That’s what Drag Con is: a queer art
festival, showcasing queer art from the
vendors selling crystal-studded tiaras (of
which I bought two) to the attendees in
their very best drag.
Alexis Michelle (Season Nine) stole the
show for me: Her three days of DragCon
were three days of Judy—Judy Garland,
Drag Con
naturally. I used to see Alexis Michelle
weekly pre-“Drag Race” at my favorite
bar, the now-extinct Boots and Saddle
in The Village, and it’s always good to
catch her when I can. On Saturday, she
was Judy as Dorothy in a gingham dress
and, of course, the ruby red slippers.
There’s no place like home.
Down the aisle was a Kids’ Zone,
complete with an inflatable bouncy
house. I noticed a group of children
gathered around a drag queen: She was
reading to them from a storybook. They
watched her so closely, so intently—they
were mesmerized, not by the story she
was reading, but by her presence. In the
middle of the story, one child jumped
from his seat, ran up and wrapped her
in a hug.
There’s no place like home I thought
again, looking around—only I didn’t
need to click my Chloé heels together
three times. I was already home.

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THE GIRLS FROM SEASON ONE
BY EILEEN SHAPIRO
CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT
INTRODUCING THE TEN
COMPETING QUEENS:
BAGA CHIPZ, BLU
HYDRANGEA, CRYSTAL,
CHERYL HOLE, DIVINA
DE CAMPO, GOTHY
KENDOLL, SUM TING
WONG, SCAREDY KAT,
THE VIVIENNE, VINEGAR
STROKES.
On Thursday, October 3, drag
history will be made according to
the BBC when the first season of
“RuPaul’s Drag Race” will air in
the U.K. “Drag Race” has changed
pop-culture, altered reality show
norms and positively magnified the
importance of drag for the past
11 seasons in the U.S. The season
will be available on the streaming
platform WOW Presents Plus for
those outside the U.K.
On July 16, it was Ru-vealed
that the contestants would be
announced at DragCon New York

OF ‘RUPAUL’S DRAG RACE U.K.’
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2019, where we were
given the first glimpse
into the personas of the
10 contestants slated to
compete in the inaugural
episode of the U.K.
version of “Drag Race.”
“Each of the U.K.
queens is so unique,
so courageous and so
special. I can’t wait for
the U.K. and the world to
fall in love with them the
same way I did,” RuPaul
said.
INTRODUCING...
CRYSTAL
Originally from Canada, now based in London,
this queen considers herself more of a genderbending
oddity rather than a showgirl. She
explains, “She stands for tearing down gender
constructs using creativity, looks and fashion
and crazy performances. I do aerial circus, I
can crack a whip, put cigarettes out on my
tongue—it’s a freak show. It’s unexpected. It’s
nothing you have ever seen before.”
What is your main drag influence, whether it
be another queen or hero?
For me it’s like a superhero in the ‘80s.

Can you describe “Drag Race” in one
word?
Terrifying.
Here it’s customary when you
perform in bars and clubs people
give you tips. Does that happen in
the U.K. as well?
No tips.
Which judge are you most scared of?
I think it’s got to be Ru. She’s the
ultimate voice. You gotta impress Ru.
What was it like when you were first
called to be on the very first U.K.
“Drag Race”?
It was mental, and you have so little
time. It’s just instant panic. You have
to go into your closet and throw out
everything you’ve ever had, just burn it
all, and start from scratch. I’ve got some
nice new outfits, though.
VINEGAR STROKES
A comedy queen hailing from
London, she considers herself a mix
between Tina Turner, Lizzo and Kate
Slater. She has already shared the
stage with Michelle Visage when
performing at the West End. “It’s
great to be able to take drag from
a small idea to the West End and
hopefully behold that.”
What do you think are the main
differences between U.K. queens and
U.S. queens?
Foreskin.
If you could describe “Drag Race” in
one word, what would that be?
Camp.
Who influenced your drag?
Really unhinged women, like
“Desperate Housewives.”
Which judge are you most scared of?
It’s Ru, but also Michelle. I’ve worked
with her at the West End. I know her
from that, and to be judged by her, it’s
kind of scary.
DIVINA DE CAMPO
This Mancunian queen has appeared
on “The Voice U.K.,” “All Together
Now,” MTV’s “A to Z Drag” and “Big
Brother’s Bit on the Side.” She is
probably the most well-known name
competing. “She does a swan dive on
TV, so I ran out into the audience and
head butted some fixed seating. My
eyes just exploded everywhere with
blood, and I just carried on singing,”
she said.
Do you think there is a difference
between the queens on the U.S. and
the U.K. “Drag Race”?
It’s how they all take it in. We are quite a
different breed. There’s a different sort
of history to the American drag scene.
There is a difference to what the U.K.
audience is looking for than to the U.S.
Do you perform all over the U.K.?
I perform all over the world, babe.
Can you describe “Drag Race” in one
word?
Not cute.
SCAREDY KAT
Hailing from Wiltshire, she is the
youngest contestant on the show. She
is bisexual and first got into drag via
a girlfriend, who performs drag under
the name Pussy Cat. “My greatest
strength is probably the fact that I’m
terrified of everything. I also have OK
makeup skills, I guess.”
What is that difference between what
the U.K. is looking for as opposed to
the U.S.?
I think that there needs to be more
polish. It’s the attention.
What is the difference between the
contestants of drag race in the U.K. in
the U.S.?
We’re ruder. People are quite polite here;
you don’t get offended about swearing.
They aren’t worried about saying “fuckin’
shit.”

BAGA CHIPZ
London based, this queen has
been featured in the reality series
“Queens of London.” She says
that she bases her act on a young
Princess Diana and the “Coronation
Street” cast circa 1970. “My greatest
strengths are my comedy and my
wit. I’m a live performer, and I do my
own material. I might not have the
best outfits or makeup, but put me
on a stage and I will entertain the
absolute shit out of the room,” she
said.
Why do you think you were selected
to be on the very first U.K. “Drag
Race”?
Because I’m a bag of chips. Everybody
loves a bag of chips. Like in America,
chips are like crisps. In England, it’s
more like, hello fish and chips. So I’m
the bag of chips with salt and vinegar.
And the ketchup.
Are you also almost scared of
Michelle Visage as a judge?
She’s a pussy cat underneath that
Michelle. As far as being scared, I take
it on the chin. I say, well I’m going to
listen to that, but if they are talking
shop, I say no.
What are you most looking forward
to after the show?
Loads of money! I’m just looking
forward to watching and seeing what
the other bitches have been saying
about me behind my back.
GOTHY KENDOLL
Aside from doing to drag, this
queen is also a DJ. She really does
look like a gothy Ken doll in drag.
Her fans say that her social media
went suspiciously quiet in April
when the show was rumored to
have been filmed. “My drag is dark,
contemporary, striking and unique,
and everything that is cool and fresh
about U.K. drag now,” she said.
How about you, why do you think you
were chosen?
I think because I show a different side
of drag. A lot of “RuPaul’s Drag Race”
shows are pantomime and camp. Mine
is more fashion-based.
Who are you most scared of as far as
the judges go?
Michelle Visage.
What are you most looking forward to
after the show?
Having a different experience after the
show.
You seem shy.
Really? I don’t think I’m very shy.
BLU HYDRANGEA
The only contestant from Ireland
(Belfast), this queen is a quirky
makeup artist. The fans expect her
to slay the competition. “By day I am
a makeup artist, and I think that will
give me an edge on the competition,
because I know that Michelle and
Ru will be looking for someone that
is polished. Well, put it together
and I will wear that crown and look
gorgeous, that’s me,” she said.
Where were you when you found
out you were going to be on “Drag
Race”?
I was in bed while you were out doing it.
You and Cheryl look like you are good
friends?
Well, you will just have to tune into
the show to find out. She doesn’t wear
earrings.
You are very colorful.
Like your hair, but I am rainbow from
head to toe.
You two are going to be fun to watch.
We don’t take ourselves seriously, we
just have a good time. We’re not there
for the drama, but maybe there is a bit
of drama. Who knows.

CHERYL HOLE
Cheryl describes herself as the “dancing
diva of Essex” and the Gemma Collins
of drag. She bases her show on
“X-Factor” and star Cheryl from Girls
Aloud. “I am a lip-sync assassin, and
I’d like to see any of these girls try and
out lip-sync me as this is what I do,”
she said. “I’m quite well known for my
death drop and dancing skills, so girl,
you better watch out as I’m gonna bring
the exclamation mark of the dance
moves to the dance floor.”
Who are you, and what did you do
when you found out you would be on
“RuPaul’s Drag Race”?
I was sitting in a car all by myself, shaking.
Are you and Blu good friends?
I actually hate her. I do Blu, I just didn’t
have time today.
I’m really looking forward to seeing you
two on “Drag Race.”
It’s going to be fabulous. It will be the
campiest “Drag Race” anyone has ever
seen. Camp is ridiculous, it’s stupid. Tune
in October 3.
SUM TING WONG
“I’m here because I am a drag queen,
not because I’m Asian. Asian is who I
am, but it does not define who I am.
I want to show you that I’m a queen
like anyone else,” she said. Her name
reflects her British/Vietnamese heritage,
but turned out to be a prank. She claims
that in her 30 years of life, this is the
first time she is doing something that
she actually loves. This queen is from
Birmingham.
Why did you want to be on “Drag
Race”?
I’m a vocally talented queen who wants to
break down racial stereotypes.
How long have you been doing drag?
I started five years ago.
THE VIVIENNE
“I am The Vivienne, I’m 27 years
old and I am from the gorgeous
town of Liverpool,” she said. “I
am an engaged lady, and I live for
my fiancé. And I’m here to win the
crown of the first ever ‘RuPaul’s
Drag Race U.K.,’ so bring it on!” She
is a self-proclaimed comedy master
who does impressions of celebrities
from all around the world. She
has actually had past “Drag Race”
experience and was previously
crowned by RuPaul herself as the
U.K. ambassador for “RuPaul’s Drag
Race.”
I love your look.
I like to look fierce.
What are your strong points, talent
wise?
I can sing, I look good and I’m funny.
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THOMAS
TALKS
ABOUT: THE SPARK
I am married, but I
don’t think I’ve ever
been in love. I have
love for my husband,
but it feels more like
sibling love than what
I think romantic love
might be. A long time
ago I accepted that
this is just how I’m
wired, and it’s never
bothered me until
recently. I’ve been
thinking more about
my childhood and
some stuff that caused
a lot of pain. It has
made me wonder if I
gravitated towards my
relationship because it
was just safe. Is staying
in a relationship
because it’s safe a
good reason? What if
there is more out there
for me? Someone I
could feel “the spark”
with, whatever that
really means. -Male,
Gay, 32
If you grew up in an
unsafe household, then
safety in a relationship
might be what you
crave. I don’t believe
there is any one good
reason to be in a
relationship. As long
as everyone involved
is having some of
their needs met, and
they aren’t harming
each other, any reason
works. Is there more
for you? Maybe. You
could feel “the spark”
with someone else, or
that might not be in
the cards for you. Talk
to a therapist and work
through the things that
might be stopping you
from connecting more
with your husband.
The spark might be
there, you just haven’t
uncovered it yet. No
sense in throwing in
the towel before you’ve
done the work on
yourself.
My chemistry is f**ked!
I feel connected to
all the wrong guys,
and I know it. If a guy
drinks or does coke
all the time, my first
thought is, “It’s not a
big deal, he’s under
control.” I constantly
ignore all the red flags!
I’m always thinking I
can change people,
or they’ll treat me
differently than how
they treated their ex.
Without exaggerating,
it’s nearly EVERY guy I
go out with. IDK if it’s
NYC or the guys I’m
attracted to, or what,
but I’m so tired of it.
I try to see the best
in people all the time,
but I sometimes think
that’s also what blinds
me. I don’t want to be
a jaded b*tch, so how
can I give guys the
benefit of the doubt
while not falling for the
same douches? -Male,
Queer, 23
This question is one
of the most common
ones I get. The answer
is simple, but hard
to do. First, you’re
obviously attracted to
guys that aren’t good
for you, so date different
guys. Don’t go out
with the ones who you
find yourself instantly
falling for; you’re
probably attracted to
their negative qualities
without realizing it.
Second, stop ignoring
the red flags and
coming up with excuses
for people’s actions.
People engage in most
of the behaviors they
do for a very simple
reason: because they
want to. Yes, people are
complex, but if you stop
seeing everyone through
rose-colored glasses,
you’ll realize people are
mostly exactly who they
say they are when you
first meet them.
Sex/Love/Relationship advice? Send your questions to: ThomasTalksAbout@gmail.com
@ThomasWhitfield84

BY MICHAEL SANTA
SUPERHEROES PREPARE TO BATTLE
ON THE DANCEFLOOR AT PAPA PARTY
IN WASHINGTON DC
Led by the Capital’s Deepest, Darkest Fantasy, Q
The Papa Party returns to
Washington DC on October 18
for the second annual Superhero
Underwear Party! Taking place
at Saint Yves (1220 Connecticut
Ave NW), Tickets are on sale now
at https://lafantasyproductions.
com. The event will feature
party founder Eliad Cohen, DJ
Alex Acosta, and local gay party
producer Q, aka Mother Fantasy,
of La Fantasy Productions,
celebrating his birthday.
When we learned the mighty fine
birthday-boy was single and ready
to swingle (more on that below!),
we decided we needed to learn
more. Here are our twenty
questions with Q.
CREDIT: JÓZSEF DANIELS
INTERVIEW>>>>>>>>>
What superhero do you
most identify with?
Q: Spiderman because
he’s young and can fit in
everywhere.
Worst pick-up line
someone has said to
you?
Q: You look sick; you
need to take vitamin me!
How would (or does)
your Grindr profile read?
Q: I solemnly swear that I
am up to no good!
Biggest turn-on?
Q: A good smile,
baby face and a great
personality.
And turn-off?
Q: Conceited or standoffish
people.
If you could be any
inanimate object in the
world, what would you
be?
Q: I have fascination
with disco balls. I’d
like to hang from the
ceiling of an amazing
club and shine on all the
partygoers.
What would a film of
your life be called, and
who would star as you
in it?
Q: Finding Q, a feature by
Walt Disney, because my
life is funny, dramatic and
I’m always reinventing
myself and making new
friends everywhere I go.
What’s your life motto?
Q: Smile, be kind and let’s
party!

What’s your spirit animal?
Q: I’m a lion, always
leading the pack with
strength to overcome any
hurdles in life.
Which cocktail best suits
your personality?
Q: Dirty Martini, because
I’m serious, strong and
refined. I know what I like
and I’m not afraid to get
dirty with the olives.
What would your own
fragrance be called, and
what ingredients would it
contain?
Q: Fantasy reality, a
fragrance that is sexy,
powerful, and mysterious
made from sexy exotic
flowers.
What makes you smile?
Q: Reading my Instagram
or Facebook direct
messages.
What is your biggest
vice?
Q: Work, work and
more work!
Your house is on fire.
What one possession
would you save?
Q: My good wigs!
Nothing, everything is
insured.
You’ve been given 24
hours to live. How do
you spend your day?
Q: Throw the biggest
house party for my
family and close friends!
You’re dead (sorry).
What does the epitaph
on your gravestone
read?
Q: Here lies the body of
Mother Fantasy.
Mother of many circuit
kids, loved by many and
hated by few.
You can travel back in
time. Where would you
go, and what would
you get up to?
Q: Studio 54, New York
City circa 1970.
What is the most
beloved item of
clothing in your
wardrobe?
Q: My Fendi shoes.
Which celebrity would
you most like to slide
into your DMs?
Q: Jake Gyllenhaal.
He’s got an amazing
personality, great smile
and I’ve had a crush on
him since Jarhead.
You’ve been abducted
by aliens. What is your
parting message to
planet Earth?
Q: Humans are not real!
Follow Q on Instagram at lafantasydc

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