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PAGE 28 — SUNDAY VANGUARD, OCTOBER 13, 2019<br />
I was on S/African<br />
‘Wanted List’<br />
– Urhobo, ex-Executive<br />
Secretary of S/African<br />
Relief Fund<br />
Aformer Executive Secretary of South African Relief<br />
Fund, SARF, Dr. Omawumi Urhobo, in this interview,<br />
explains how South Africa and Nigeria can foster<br />
permanent harmonious relations. Urhobo, who is the<br />
President/Chief Executive Officer of Morgan Smart<br />
Development Foundation, also shares her experience as the<br />
student counsellor to more than 500 South African students<br />
in Nigeria during the apartheid era. She was the Student<br />
Counsellor of the International University Exchange Fund,<br />
IUEF, an international NGO based in Geneva, Switzerland,<br />
that had an agreement with the Federal Government of<br />
Nigeria and the African National Congress, ANC.<br />
By Ebele Orakpo<br />
Involvement in the South<br />
African struggle in the 1970s<br />
It was the aftermath of the Soweto<br />
Uprising of 1976 when many students<br />
went into exile and they needed to be<br />
evacuated because they were staying in<br />
the border countries of Botswana and<br />
Zambia and the South African<br />
government was sending planes to<br />
bomb these countries. Thabo Mbeki,<br />
who was ANC’s chief representative in<br />
Nigeria, negotiated for these youths to<br />
be brought to Nigeria to continue their<br />
studies.<br />
With that arrangement, about 500 of<br />
them were brought to Nigeria. I was a<br />
fresh graduate from University of<br />
Lagos, working in the Federal Ministry<br />
of Social Development. The Cabinet<br />
Office, as it was then called, was<br />
looking for a Student Counsellor that<br />
would take care of the students. That<br />
was how that responsibility fell on me.<br />
It was a great idea because the first<br />
thing that occurred to me was that the<br />
salary they were offering me was more<br />
than what I was getting in the ministry.<br />
Who employed you?<br />
The NGO recruited me while the<br />
Federal Government made the places<br />
available. The students from Soweto<br />
were politically-vibrant and here I was,<br />
a young girl, whose duty was to ensure<br />
that they were properly placed in<br />
schools, and their social needs met. The<br />
Federal Government Colleges, FGCs,<br />
were newly set up so they were taken to<br />
FGCs all over the country. I got them<br />
admission, and I ensured they got their<br />
stipends. We did that until apartheid<br />
ended in 1994.<br />
Hell of an experience<br />
It was a hell of an experience for me.<br />
This group of politically active students<br />
did not behave normally, so people just<br />
couldn’t understand them. They could<br />
fight and do a lot of things but with the<br />
support of government, we ensured they<br />
survived and got education. Mashinini,<br />
who was the President of SA students in<br />
Soweto then, was hosted in Nigeria, so<br />
also was Makhubo, the guy in the<br />
famous photo, carrying the girl that was<br />
shot by the police during the Soweto<br />
Uprising. Mmusi Maimane, the<br />
opposition leader in the South African<br />
parliament, and many others were here.<br />
At a point, Nigeria was considered a<br />
front-line state because of our<br />
commitment to the anti-apartheid<br />
cause. Thabo Mbeki was so effective in<br />
terms of establishing a good<br />
relationship with the government as the<br />
Chief Representative of the ANC.<br />
Nigerians took these SA blacks into<br />
their homes. Chief Olusegun Obasanjo<br />
said Nigeria spent over $10 billion as<br />
support for the struggle.<br />
Mama Evelyn<br />
I became Mama Evelyn at a young<br />
age because students were coming to me<br />
with various challenges. A student once<br />
came to me and said: “Mama Evelyn, I<br />
can’t get a girlfriend,” and I asked why;<br />
he said: “It is because I am not<br />
circumcised and the girls said they won’t<br />
be with me.” I made arrangements for<br />
many of them to be circumcised.<br />
Nigeria helped to crumble apartheid.<br />
Post-Apartheid<br />
When apartheid ended, the South<br />
African Relief Fund, SARF, came into<br />
place. Beyond the Federal Government’s<br />
support for the struggle, individual<br />
Nigerians were called upon to also help.<br />
A lady (now late) donated what she<br />
called her widow’s mite, that was the<br />
seed money used to start the SARF. Later,<br />
all civil servants were instructed to<br />
contribute a percentage<br />
of their salaries to SARF.<br />
I became the Acting<br />
Executive Secretary, ES,<br />
of SARF because the<br />
substantive ES could not<br />
deal with the rudeness<br />
and the very militant<br />
posture of the students.<br />
For years, we were<br />
looking after the students<br />
and, at the same time,<br />
raising money and taking<br />
relief materials to the<br />
‘frontline’ states.<br />
At one point, the South<br />
African government had<br />
my name on the ‘Wanted<br />
List’. They said the<br />
students were brought to<br />
Nigeria to be trained and<br />
I was one of the<br />
supervisors. You can then<br />
imagine when I visited<br />
Botswana, Zambia or<br />
Mozambique because<br />
these were places the<br />
refugees were taken to.<br />
After the Soweto<br />
Uprising, there was<br />
continuous rioting, even<br />
ordinary South Africans were coming<br />
out and they flooded Zambia and<br />
Botswana. Zimbabwe had their problem<br />
at the same time, so we were also taking<br />
in Zimbabwean refugees. There were<br />
Mozambicans too but because of the<br />
language barrier, they did not find it<br />
comfortable here. When apartheid<br />
collapsed, the mass movement of<br />
Nigerians to South Africa began.<br />
•Dr. Urhobo<br />
Mass movement<br />
With independence, the South African<br />
blacks that have been oppressed for so<br />
long, did not have the boldness of<br />
character and the aggressiveness needed<br />
to take charge of the evolving economic<br />
system and all the vacancies. So,<br />
Nigerian professionals moved there in<br />
droves. Naturally, the bad guys also<br />
moved in. In 1996, when I went to South<br />
Africa, the Hillbrow area was a no-go<br />
area for South Africans. Nigerians<br />
colonised the area.<br />
It’s an area with high rise buildings<br />
originally owned by white South<br />
Africans, so Nigerians were buying off<br />
the buildings. Over the years, they<br />
created a colony for themselves there<br />
and more blacks moved in.<br />
Dwindling economy<br />
I was there two years ago and I was<br />
stunned by the level of poverty. The<br />
present South African government has<br />
not done too well. Thabo Mbeki, who<br />
took over from Nelson Mandela, was<br />
more sophisticated. He was in exile and<br />
had interacted and knew the dynamics.<br />
He was going to be more careful with<br />
the transition. Mandela was neither a<br />
politician nor a<br />
development<br />
practitioner, he just<br />
depended on a lot of<br />
At one point,<br />
the South<br />
African<br />
government<br />
had my name<br />
on the ‘Wanted<br />
List’. They said<br />
the students<br />
were brought to<br />
Nigeria to be<br />
trained and I<br />
was one of the<br />
supervisors<br />
advice but by the time<br />
Thabo Mbeki came, he<br />
was more grounded in<br />
terms of his political,<br />
economic and<br />
developmental<br />
exposure; so I think he<br />
had a template of a<br />
gradual thing that will<br />
help to transit properly<br />
and absorb the blacks<br />
into the system. Then<br />
there was an internal<br />
coup that I saw happen.<br />
They removed him and<br />
Jacob Zuma, who was<br />
internally grounded in<br />
the country, came in. He<br />
didn’t really have<br />
exposure but he became<br />
a politician that would<br />
say all the right things<br />
and people followed him<br />
and then everything<br />
started going bad. It was<br />
during his rule that<br />
corruption got to the<br />
limit and he was indicted. There was a<br />
failure in governance.<br />
Failure of governance, scapegoat<br />
Cyril Ramaphosa is trying to salvage the<br />
situation because he had some exposure<br />
himself in the private sector, development<br />
and business. By the time I went to the<br />
country in 2016, the statistics were<br />
frightening in terms of the level to which<br />
the economy had degenerated, so it was a<br />
question of the blacks looking for a<br />
scapegoat on whom to transfer the<br />
aggression.<br />
Yes, there are many Nigerians there. Yes,<br />
a lot of wrong things are being done by<br />
Nigerians, but there is a huge mass of lawabiding<br />
Nigerians contributing to the<br />
economic development of South Africa.<br />
Unfortunately, some of our people<br />
exported all the bad behaviours in Nigeria<br />
to SA – living in opulence, big parties, big<br />
cars amid poverty. It is provocative. South<br />
African blacks, I am sorry to say, are<br />
typically laid back. They don’t have that<br />
aggressiveness and it is because of years of<br />
oppression.<br />
SA blacks are laid back<br />
I seriously indict the South African<br />
government because they are not doing it<br />
the right way. I remember the SA security<br />
forces during the apartheid regime that<br />
were very brutal. They ensured the security<br />
of lives and property. What happened?<br />
How come they can’t do anything about<br />
the violence in South Africa today? If you<br />
think that people have become a nuisance<br />
in your country, there are legal ways to<br />
deal with them. Arrest the ones you find<br />
wanting, try them, sentence them to jail or<br />
deport them.<br />
But they are not laid back when it<br />
comes to fighting other blacks,<br />
why?<br />
It’s because they have been trained to be<br />
aggressive in the wrong direction. They<br />
probably just need a leader who tells them<br />
what to do. Nigeria and South Africa need<br />
to dialogue. They said the Ghanaians<br />
actually went to parliament to get a law in<br />
place to dislodge Nigerians from Ghana. I<br />
don’t think we went to the extent of getting<br />
a law but there was a proclamation giving<br />
Ghanaians one week or 48 hours to leave.<br />
SA men accused Nigerian men of<br />
taking over their women, how true<br />
is that?<br />
It is a fundamental issue. But again, who<br />
doesn’t love a macho man? The Nigerian<br />
man has style, has class, and the<br />
wherewithal. And their girls are very<br />
shapely. Again, there is a lot of violence<br />
against South African women by their<br />
men. I was watching Malema’s interview<br />
where he said: “Ïs it the Nigerians that are<br />
coming to beat your wives and girlfriends<br />
in the villages?” Amid the crises, the<br />
women went to demonstrate at the Stock<br />
Exchange in Jo’Burg against the violence<br />
of their men against them. So if they are<br />
claiming that Nigerian men are taking<br />
their women, is that enough to kill them?<br />
Why don’t you be a man yourself and<br />
make yourself worthy instead of<br />
physically and mentally abusing your<br />
women every day? They have a serious<br />
alcoholic problem. Let us even leave the<br />
drug side. When you drink, who is your<br />
first contact when you get home? Your<br />
wife! And you beat her up. I am not telling<br />
lies against South Africans, it is the reality.<br />
Drug cartels<br />
The main drug cartels conduct their<br />
business in more sophisticated ways but<br />
Nigerians carry drugs on the streets. They<br />
put them in lollipops for children to drink<br />
and get addicted. No matter how you want<br />
to put it, the South African government<br />
has not met its responsibility considering<br />
how far we have come.<br />
Repatriation<br />
not new<br />
Ghanaians first repatriated Nigerians in<br />
1957 immediately they got their<br />
independence. The next was in 1965 in<br />
which they sent away all Nigerians in<br />
Ghana. In the early 80s, Nigeria sent over<br />
two million Ghanaians packing. I am still<br />
in touch with my friend, Mrs. Mbeki, the<br />
wife of the former South African President,<br />
till date. She is completely distraught.<br />
She said to me: “Evelyn, I can’t<br />
understand. Can we ever get together<br />
again? That fraternity that existed between<br />
Nigeria, South Africa and the whole of<br />
Africa, not just Nigeria.” If you look at the<br />
history of this “foreigner must go”, it<br />
always has to do with the economic<br />
situation and when the economic situation<br />
becomes that bad, the first person they<br />
move against is the foreigner. There is a<br />
systemic failure in South Africa presently.<br />
You may not believe it but that is the truth.<br />
They have not been able to handle the<br />
economy. It is in very bad shape, so the<br />
South Africans find it easier to turn<br />
against their own fellow Africans.