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C M Y K<br />
biZina ivaniSvili:<br />
rogor<br />
davamyarebdi<br />
mSvidobas<br />
kavkasiaSi<br />
`koalicia `qarTuli ocneba~ Tavs<br />
aaridebs civi omis ritorikas da ukeTesad<br />
moaxerxebs Cvens regionSi feTqebadsaSiSi<br />
situaciis realuri mizezebis<br />
ganeitralebas~.<br />
<strong>rezo</strong> <strong>amaSukeli</strong>:<br />
saCxereSi<br />
Cinel `rostom<br />
wereTels~<br />
maRazia uyidia,<br />
male Svili unda<br />
SeeZinos Turme da akaki<br />
unda davarqvao, iZaxis...<br />
goCa msxilaZe:<br />
Cven gvyavs<br />
hermafroditi<br />
xelisufleba,<br />
romelic arc<br />
kacia, arc qali,<br />
Sesabamisad, kacicaa<br />
da qalic, anu<br />
araferi ar aris<br />
#35 (219) • 15-21.VIII.2012 weli • gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs • www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: saertogazeti@yahoo.com• fasi 1 lari<br />
saeklesio wreebSi<br />
didi miTqma-moTqma:<br />
patriarqi 15 seqtembramde<br />
unda gadaayenon an<br />
TviTon unda gadadgeso...<br />
ras werda 12 wlis winaT<br />
`marTali gazeTi~?<br />
aqa ambavi `verbliudisa~, romelic<br />
saqarTveloSi zogierTebs<br />
nacionalur gmirad miaCniaT<br />
vin arian eseni _<br />
adgilobrivi<br />
mniSvnelobis<br />
yaCaRebis banda<br />
Tu saerTaSoriso<br />
mafiis wevrebi?<br />
ministr goga xaCiZis<br />
mama, romelic<br />
`mxedrionis~ wevri<br />
iyo, yaCaRobaSi<br />
imxileboda?!<br />
vin akeTebs realurad<br />
rusul saqmes TbilisSi?<br />
filologebi, `xalxis<br />
ty-aosani~ da meigavarake<br />
saakaSvilis<br />
`didgori~ da<br />
`urjuloebi~<br />
putini da sakaSvili farul garigebaSi<br />
arian da SeTanxmebulad moqmedeben?
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saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
manana kobaxiZe: darwmunebuli<br />
varT, rom cesko saarCevno nomrad<br />
7-ianis aRebaze uars ar gvetyvis<br />
„biZina ivaniSvili -<br />
qarTuli ocneba“- politikuri<br />
bloki am saxelwodebiT<br />
dRes daregistrirda<br />
ceskoSi,“- amis<br />
Sesaxeb „tribunas“ partia<br />
„qarTuli ocneba -<br />
demokratiuli saqarTvelos“<br />
Tavmjdomarem manana<br />
kobaxiZem ganucxada.<br />
„Cven davregistrirdiT blokis saxiT da wesdebis<br />
Sesabamisad viTxovT, rom Cveni saarCevno nomeri<br />
iyos 7. vinaidan erT-erTi „subieqti konservatiuli“<br />
partia wina arCevnebSi flobda nomer 7-s da Cven<br />
gvaqvs ufleba, moqmedi kanonmdeblobiT, rom koaliciaSi<br />
Semavali erT-erTi partiis nomeri aviRoT da<br />
Sesabamisad, vuTiTebT rom bloki „biZina ivaniSvili<br />
- qarTuli ocneba“, aseTi saxiT unda daregistrirdes<br />
da Cveni saarCevno nomeri iyos 7. CavabareT es<br />
dokumentacia. Sesabamisad, komisiisgan gvecnobeba<br />
aris Tu ara ZalaSi 7 nomeri. yvelenairi molodini<br />
gvaqvs, rom Cven am nomriT miviRebT monawileobas ar-<br />
CevnebSi,“- ganacxada manana kobaxiZem.<br />
misi TqmiT, jer ar yofila precedenti, rom ceskos<br />
politikuri blokisTvis msgavsi moTxovnaze<br />
uari eTqvas.<br />
„kanoniT dadgenil vadaSi gvecnobeba Cveni<br />
moTxovnis dakmayofileba-ar dakmayofilebis Sesaxeb.<br />
darwmunebuli varT, rom uars ver gvetyvian imitom,<br />
rom yvela procedura gaviareT. ar yofila SemTxveva,<br />
rom blokis Camoyalibebis dros masSi Semavali<br />
erT-erTi subieqtis nomerze uari eTqvas ceskos. ase-<br />
Ti precedenti ar yofila amitom, Cven darwmunebuli<br />
varT imaSi, rom 7 nomeri iqneba Cveni saarCevno nomeri,“-<br />
ganacxada kobaxiZem.<br />
beTqil Sukvani: me Cemi<br />
simarTlisTvis vibrZvi<br />
2012 wlis olimpiadis<br />
monawile qarTveli<br />
Ziudoisti beTqil Sukvani<br />
am droisTvis londonSi<br />
imyofeba da Sesabamis<br />
uwyebaSi mis winaaRmdeg<br />
mikerZoebul<br />
msajobas sarCeliT aprotestebs.<br />
rogorc<br />
Sukvanma „medianiuss“<br />
ganucxada, igi olimpiadaze<br />
msajebis usamarTlo<br />
gadawyvetilebebis gamo damarcxda, Tumca qar-<br />
Tul delegacias am faqtze reaqcia ar hqonia. misi<br />
TqmiT, rodesac msajebi daisjebian, yvela dainaxavs,<br />
rom igi marTali iyo. Sukvanis TqmiT, delegaciam misi<br />
gancxadebis Semdeg Tqva, rom maT msajis gadawyvetilebis<br />
gaprotesteba ar SeeZloT, Tumca mogvianebiT<br />
aRmoCnda, rom qarTulma mxarem sxva qarTveli<br />
moWidavis winaaRmdeg dafiqsirebuli mikerZoebuli<br />
msajoba gaaprotesta. Sukvanis TqmiT, igi konkretulad<br />
qarTuli delegaciis arc erTi warmomadgenlis<br />
winaaRmdeg Civils ar apirebs. SegaxsenebT, rom Sukvani<br />
oliampiadis meore raundSi frang sofian milus-<br />
Tan iponiT damarcxda. qarTveli sportsmeni Sexvedras<br />
mTeli matCis ganmavlobaSi igebda, Tumca bolosken<br />
misma metoqem momgebiani gdebiT gamarjveba moipova.<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom matCis msvlelobisas Sukvanma<br />
ori 10–quliani gdeba Seasrula, Tumca msajebma es<br />
ar daafiqsires. samSobloSi dabrunebis Semdeg Sukvanma<br />
skandaluri gancxadeba gaakeTa. Ziudoisti acxadebda,<br />
rom igi „qarTuli ocnebis“ mxardamWeria da<br />
olimpiadaze warmatebis SemTxvevaSi oqros medlis<br />
miZRvnas swored koaliciisaTvis apirebda. es cnobili<br />
iyo saqarTvelos xelisuflebisTvisac, amitom<br />
londonSi masze oficialuri pirebi zewolas axdendnen.<br />
2 agvistos am sakiTxze Sukvanma TbilisSi,<br />
~qarTuli ocnebis~ ofisSi, biZina ivaniSvilis presmdivanTan<br />
maia fanjikiZesTan erTad gamarTul preskonferenciaze<br />
medias londonis olimpiadis msvlelobisas<br />
saqarTvelos xelisuflebis warmomadgenel-<br />
Ta mier masze ganxorcielebuli zemoqmedebis Sesaxeb<br />
mouTxro.<br />
TinaTin xidaSeli sofel<br />
xaSmis mosaxleobas Sexvda<br />
koalicia “qarTuli ocnebis” sagarejos maJoritari<br />
deputatobis kandidati TinaTin xidaSeli sofel<br />
xaSmis mosaxleobas Sexvda.<br />
soflis mosaxleoba, romlis udidesi nawilic<br />
Sexvedras eswreboda Riad gamoxata sakuTari mxarda-<br />
Wera “qarTuli ocnebisa” da koaliciis kandidatis<br />
mimarT.<br />
TinaTin xidaSelma amomrCevelTan Sexvedrisas koaliciis<br />
saarCevno programaze isaubra da mosaxleobas<br />
garantia misca, rom soflis problemebi, romelic<br />
dRes yvelaze metad awuxebT erTi wlis manZilze<br />
mogvardeba.<br />
TinaTin xidaSelma Sexvedraze ganacxada, rom<br />
wylis, gazifikaciis, sabavSvo baRis da skolis problemebi<br />
umalve mogvardeba.<br />
xidaSelis gancxadebiT, jandacvis sistemis awyoba<br />
da soflis meurneobis ganviTearebisaTvis Cadebuli<br />
1 miliardiani investicia aris is dapireba, romelic<br />
swrafad<br />
aCvenebs<br />
mosaxleobas<br />
Tu<br />
ras niSnavs<br />
mzrunveli<br />
x e l i s u f -<br />
leba.<br />
xidaSelis<br />
gancxadebiT,<br />
sofel xaSmSi<br />
mosaxleoba<br />
yoveldRiurad ibrZvis gadarCenisaTvis da ar-<br />
Cevnebs imedis TvaliT uyurebs.<br />
sofels ar aqvs wyali, gazmomarageba, sofelSi ar<br />
xdeba narCenebis Segroveba, ar arsebobs dasaqmebis<br />
araviTari SesaZlebloba, udidesi problema aqvT yur-<br />
Znis Cabarebis TvlsazrisiT. skola, romelic savalalo<br />
mdgareobaSia ramdenime kilometriT aris moSorebuli<br />
soflis udidesi nawilisgan da ar arsebobs<br />
moswavleebis transportirebis saSualeba. xidaSelis<br />
gancxadebiT, umZimesi viTarebaa sabavSvo baRsa da adgilobriv<br />
ambulatoriaSi.<br />
amomrCevelTan Sexvedram 2 saaTze met xans gastana<br />
da saintereso dialogis reJimSi warimarTa.<br />
TinaTin xidaSeli sofel xaSmis macxovrebebs samarTlianobis<br />
aRdgenas da maTi intereesbis dacvas<br />
dahpirda.<br />
axali ganCinebiT, sasamarTlo<br />
bankebs klientis konfidencialuri<br />
informaciis gacemas avaldebulebs<br />
sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebiT, saqarTveloSi arsebuli<br />
18 banki valdebulia prokuraturas miawodos<br />
informacia, misi klientebis piradi gadaricxvebis Sesaxeb.<br />
aRniSnuli ganCineba mosamarTle eka areSiZem miiRo.<br />
amasTan dakavSirebiT informacias telekompania<br />
„me -9 arxi“ avrcelebs.<br />
ganCinebis teqst-<br />
Si vkiTxulobT, „sa-<br />
Wiroa amoRebul iqnas<br />
saqarTveloSi<br />
moqmedi yvela sabanko<br />
dawesebulebis<br />
kuTvnili bankomatebis<br />
meSveobiT ucxo<br />
qveynis komericuli<br />
bankebis mier rogorc<br />
sqarTvelos moqalaqeebis, aseve ucxo qveynis<br />
moqalaqeebis saxelze gacemuli plastikuri baraTebis<br />
gamoyenebiT ganxorcielebuli tranzaqciebis amsaxveli<br />
detaluri informacia 13 ivlisidan - 20 ivlisis<br />
CaTvliT periodSi“.<br />
telekompaniis informaciiT, aRniSnuli ganCinebiT,<br />
darRveulia saerTaSoriso gadaxdis sistemebis:<br />
vizas da `masTer qardis~ konfidencialurobac. qar-<br />
Tuli bankebis garda seriozuli safrTxis winaSea<br />
ucxouri bankebis reputaciac.<br />
winaswari SefasebiT, aRniSnuli iniciativa da<br />
ganCineba arRvevs klientis sabanko saidumloebas,<br />
radgan bankebis klientebis piradi informacia konfidencialuria.<br />
`qarTulma ocnebam~ dipkorpuss<br />
winasaarCevno viTareba gaacno<br />
koalicia “qar-<br />
Tuli ocnebis” wevrebma<br />
saqarTveloSi<br />
akreditebul diplomatebs<br />
da saerTaSoriso<br />
organizaciebis<br />
warmomadgenlebs winasaarCevno<br />
procesis<br />
da am droisTvis arsebuli<br />
darRvevebis<br />
Sesaxeb informacia<br />
gaacnes.<br />
koaliciis mxridan<br />
Sexvedras sozar subari, irakli alasania, daviT<br />
usufaSvili, manana kobaxiZe, daviT saganeliZe, gogi<br />
TofaZe da sxva liderebi eswrebodnen.<br />
“Cven visaubreT Seqmnil viTarebaze saarCevno garemosTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. ganvixileT konkretuli faqtebi,<br />
Tu ra darRvevebs aqvs adgili xelisuflebis<br />
warmomadegnlebis mxridan.<br />
sasunTqi Jangbadis sivrce daxura saakaSvilma politikuri<br />
organizaciebisTvis imitom, rom mas eSinia<br />
konkurentul garemoSi arCevnebis Catarebis. SevTanxmdiT,<br />
rom organizaciebi gaagrZeleben Zalian seriozul<br />
dakvirvebas saarCevno kampaniis procesze.<br />
Cven SevexeT amomrCevelTa siebis dazustebis komisiis<br />
muSaobasac. didi interesi gamoavlina saerTa-<br />
Soriso Tanamegobrobam Tu ratom ar aris politikuri<br />
organizaciebisaTvis gadmocemuli dazustebuli<br />
siebi“, - Sexvedris dasrulebis Semdeg ganacxada<br />
irakli alasaniam.<br />
manve ucxoel diplomatebs koaliciis centraluri<br />
saarCevno Stabis xelmZRvanelis Tanamdebobaze daviT<br />
saganeliZe warudgina.<br />
Tea wulukiani sanzonis<br />
mosaxleobas Sexvda<br />
.„qarTuli ocnebis“ maJoritari<br />
deputatobis kandidati<br />
Tea wulukiani dRes sanzonaSi,<br />
liaxvisa da Cargalis qu-<br />
Cebis macxovreblebs Sexvda.<br />
deputatobis kandidatma<br />
Sekrebil sazogadoebas „qar-<br />
Tuli ocnebis“ jandacvis<br />
programa gaacno.<br />
„visaubreT „qarTuli ocnebis“<br />
jandacvis programaze,<br />
romelic morgebulia im saWiroebebze,<br />
rac naZaladevis raionis<br />
da zogadad saqarTvelos<br />
mosaxleobas awuxebs. Cven uzrunvelvyofT<br />
TiToeuli adaminisTvis<br />
iseTi sadazRveo paketis<br />
SeTavazebas, romelic moicavs<br />
rogorc onkologiuri<br />
daavadebebis (sxivuri Terapia,<br />
qimio Terapia) mkurnalobas, aseve gul-sisxlZarRvTa<br />
daavadebebis (maT Soris, Suntireba, stentireba)<br />
mkurnalobas.<br />
dameTanxmebiT, rom am daavadebaTa mkurnaloba sa-<br />
Sualo SesaZleblobebis mqone ojaxisTvisac ki rTulia,<br />
aramcTu gaWirvebuli mosaxelobisTvis. Cveni gamarjvebis<br />
Semdeg arc naZaladevelebs da arc sxva raionis<br />
macxovreblebs avadmyofobis SiSi aRar eqnebaT.<br />
TiToeuli maTganis mkurnalobas saxelmwifo daafinansebs“.<br />
_ ganacxada wulukianma.<br />
misive TqmiT, „nacionaluri moZraobac“ iZleva<br />
xelmisawvdomi jandacvis Sesaxeb dapirebebs, Tumca<br />
sazogadoebam kargad icis, rogor sruldeba maTi danapirebi.<br />
„ukve 9 welia „nacionaluri moZraoba” mosaxleobas<br />
xelmisawvdom jandacvas hpirdeba da am pirobis<br />
Sesruleba ver Tu ar moaxerxa. yvelam kargad viciT,<br />
rom ojaxisTvis dRes erTerTi wevris avad gaxdoma<br />
avtomaturad niSnavs am ojaxis gaRatakebas. xelisuflebas<br />
am problemis mogvareba rom SeZleboda,<br />
aqamde unda moegvarebinaT. biZina ivaniSvilma, imis miuxedavad,<br />
rom is ar iyo xelisuflebis wevri, jandacvasTan<br />
dakavSirebuli yvelanairi problema mouxsna<br />
saCxeris mosaxleobas,“ - ganacxada wulukianma.<br />
`medianiusi~<br />
`saerTo gazeTi~<br />
mTavari redaqtori: vaxtang xarCilava<br />
gamomcemeli: Sps sagamomcemlo centri `saerTo sityva~<br />
mis: Tbilisi, aRmaSeneblis 164;<br />
tel.: 2 14 40 19; 2 34 28 97<br />
regist. #202375349; uak (UDC) 070.23 (479.22) s-158<br />
gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT.<br />
SesaZloa, avtoris pozicia ar eTanxmebodes redaqciis azrs.<br />
informaciis sizusteze pasuxismgebelia avtori. gasaCivreba<br />
SesaZlebelia masalis gamoqveynebidan erTi kviris vadaSi.<br />
Semosuli masalebi avtorebs ar ubrundeba.<br />
am niSniT aRniSnulia sareklamo masalebi.
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />
3<br />
filologebi, `xalxis<br />
ty-osani~ da meigavarake<br />
ar SeiZleba am filologebis<br />
mikrofonTan miSveba!<br />
Seiyara sami filologi mecxre<br />
arxze da gadacemaSi `konsoliumi<br />
vasil maRlaferiZesTan~ yvelaferi<br />
Tavdayira daayena.<br />
_ Rrubel-Rrubel, malviT mivdiodi<br />
foTisken, rusebis TviTmfrinavebs<br />
vemalebodio, _ ambobs<br />
prezidenti kaci, eseni ki, es filologebi,<br />
RrublebSi buCqebi igulisxmeba,<br />
TviTmfrinavi kidev tatos<br />
`meranTan~ asocirdebao _ ambobdnen.<br />
ra buCqebi, kaco, risi buCqebi,<br />
caSi buCqebs ra unda? Rrublebs<br />
efareboda prezidenti, xan erT<br />
Rrubels amoefareboda Tavisi<br />
TviTmfrinaviT, xan _ meores, rom<br />
rus mfrinavebs damalvoda da ase<br />
Rrublebs amofarebuli malvamalviT<br />
Cafreniliyo foTSi.<br />
_ meigavarake winaswarmetyvelia<br />
eg, oRond amis Sesaxeb TviTon araferi<br />
icis, ise, qvecnobierad winaswarmetyvelebso,<br />
_ brZanebdnen filologebi<br />
da mis mier sxvadasxva<br />
dros warmoTqmul winaswarmetyvelur<br />
teqstebs ukirkitebdnen.<br />
... me avaSene axali Tbilisi, me<br />
avaSene axali quTaisi, me avaSene<br />
axali baTumi, me avaSene axali<br />
zugdidi _ Tavmdablobda prezidenti,<br />
rac filologebs ar moewonaT<br />
da mayurebels Seaxsenes, rom misi<br />
aSenebulia agreTve aTeni, romi, parizi<br />
da sxva wvrili Tu msxvili<br />
qalaqebi, Tumca filologebs is ambavi<br />
gamorCaT, rom es mowodebiT<br />
aRmSenebeli kaci moldaveTSia miwveuli<br />
axali moldaveTis asaSeneblad.<br />
ras izam, filologebi arian da<br />
yvelaferi xom ar ecodinebaT, Tumca<br />
maT kidev erTi upatiebeli Secdoma<br />
dauSves da mayurebels daumales,<br />
rom prezidentma ara marto<br />
grigol rusTavelis da SoTa orbelianis<br />
Semoqmedeba icis zedmiwevniT<br />
kargad, aramed brwyinvaled<br />
erkveva ana tabiZis da galaktion<br />
kalandaZis poeziaSic da maTi leqsebi<br />
sul zepirad icis.<br />
_ foTSi rom Cavfrindi, imwamsve<br />
Ria eTeriT gamovedi, ra Tqma<br />
unda, rusebma es dainaxes, maSinve<br />
moaxtnen TavianT beteerebs da Cemsken<br />
gamoeSurnen, rom daveWireT.<br />
magram maT iq daxvdnen qarTveli<br />
policielebi, msubuqad SeiaraRebulni<br />
da rusebs uTxres, ver gagatarebTo.<br />
rusebTan iyo erTi qarTveli,<br />
romelic Cveulebrivad qarTulad<br />
laparakobda.<br />
man uTxra policielebs, Cven<br />
aravis arafers davuSavebT, Cven<br />
mxolod erTi kaci gvainteresebso.<br />
_ is erTi kaci axla saqarTveloa<br />
da ver gagiSvebTo, _ uTqvams<br />
policiels.<br />
ai, es fragmenti filologebma<br />
yovelgvari komentaris gareSe<br />
datoves, arada, mTeli am ambis<br />
muRami is aris, rom is sityvebi<br />
policielma ki ara, mRvdelma<br />
Tqva.<br />
didma meigavarakem da winaswarmetyvelma,<br />
aRmSenebelma Tbilisisa<br />
da aTenisa, zugdidisa da romisa,<br />
rogorc Cans, Segnebulad gaayalba<br />
faqti da mRvdlis nacvlad policieli<br />
irCia Tavisi igavis mTavar<br />
gmirad.<br />
ar unda scodnodaT es filologebs?<br />
bolos da bolos, filologebi<br />
xarT da ara viRac politologebi<br />
veterinaris an inJinris diplomiT.<br />
filologebma is ki gaSifres,<br />
rom grigol rusTavelis poemis<br />
mTavari gmiri tarieli es igive saakaSvilia,<br />
romelic qajebs (momitingeebis<br />
simbolur-metaforuli<br />
saxea) awiokebs da zogjer tarieliviT<br />
tiris kidevac.<br />
diax, tarieli saakaSvilia, av-<br />
Tandili _ axlaxan mTavar vezirad<br />
dawinaurebuli vano merabiSvili,<br />
magram araferi Tqmula imis Sesaxeb,<br />
vin aris fridoni?<br />
unda iTqvas, rom am sakiTxTan<br />
dakavSirebiT didi dava da kamaTia<br />
futurolog-politologTa wreeb-<br />
Si.<br />
erTni fiqroben, rom fridoni<br />
irakli oqruaSvilia, meoreni amtkiceben,<br />
rom fridoni arasodes yofila<br />
oqruaSvili, is erosi kiwmariSvilia,<br />
romelic qajeTis cixis<br />
galavanze naswavli ileTebiT myis<br />
gadaevlo `maestros~ ofisis galavans<br />
da iqidan Tanamedrove qajebi<br />
aota.<br />
`konsoliumSi~ monawile filologebs,<br />
etyoba, arc imis Sesaxeb<br />
hqondaT informacia, rom kulturis<br />
saministros SekveTiT ukve<br />
iwereba `vefxistyaosnis~ axali varianti<br />
saxelwodebiT `xalxistyaosani~,<br />
romlis dawera davalebuli<br />
aqvs vinme de-fis, romelic kulturis<br />
ministris specialuri brZanebiT<br />
poetad dainiSna. (am Tanamdebobaze<br />
de-fi adrec muSaobda, oRond<br />
naxevar ganakveTze, StatgareSe poetis<br />
statusiT).<br />
poemas epigrafad uZRvis fatmanxaTunis<br />
istoriuli fraza `qadJebi<br />
ki ar modian, qadJebi midian~.<br />
moqmedeba viTardeba grigol<br />
rusTavelis prospeqtze, parlamentis<br />
Senobis win da parlamentis<br />
SenobaSi, agreTve Senobis mimdebare<br />
teritoriaze _ vova puSkinis<br />
skveris da leninis (qajTa atamanis)<br />
moednis CaTvliT.<br />
de-fi fiqrobs, rom poemis sa-<br />
Tauri `xalxistyaosani~ ase unda<br />
daiweros: `xalxis ty-aosani~, ri-<br />
Tac saTauri ormag datvirTvas SeiZens<br />
_ poemis mTavari gmiri xalxs<br />
Tan ty-s uSvreba, Tan tyavs aZrobs<br />
da am tyavisgan Sekerili Coxa-axaluxiT<br />
dadis.<br />
uSiSroeba_saSiSroebis gaerTianebuli<br />
sabWos gafarToebuli konsiliumi<br />
uaxloes dReebSi gadawyvets<br />
daiweros Tu ara saTauri am<br />
formiT `xalxis ty-aosani~.<br />
de-fis aCqareben, poema seqtembris<br />
TveSi unda daibeWdos da<br />
xalxs `nacmoZraobis~ saxeliT winasaarCevnod<br />
daurigdes.<br />
ai, es umniSvnelovanesi ambavi<br />
gamorCaT maRlaferiZis konsliumSi<br />
miwveul filologebs da Tavad filolog<br />
maRlaferiZes.<br />
filologebis sameuls erTi<br />
cicxali informacia unda vamcno<br />
eqskluziurad: _ gadacemis damTavrebis<br />
Semdeg gacecxlebul meigavarake<br />
winaswarmetyvels, igive tariel<br />
saakaSvils Seuyria konsiliumi<br />
da brZaneba gaucia: _ saswrafod<br />
gauqmdes filologiis fakultetebi,<br />
gauqmdes da xmarebidan iqnas<br />
amoRebuli sityva `filologi~,<br />
yvela nafilologari ayvanili iqnas<br />
umkacres kontrolze, TiTeuls<br />
mieCinos moyuriade. 24 saaTis ganmavlobaSi,<br />
uwyvet reJimSi Cawerili<br />
iqnas da gaiSifros yvela maTi<br />
satelefono saubari.<br />
_ ki meubnebodnen, saSiSi xalxia<br />
es filologebio, magram aseTi<br />
saSiSebi Tu iyvnen, ar megona... Tu<br />
dauyovnebliv ar miviReT zomebi,<br />
filologebi daRupaven am qveyanas...<br />
Cems mier aSenebuli qveyana amaT, am<br />
filologebs unda davangrevino?<br />
nuras ukacravad! ver mogarTviT!<br />
SaSkin, droebiT daanebe Tavi Tavdacvas<br />
da dekanoiZesTan erTad isev<br />
TavdasxmaSi gadadi... erT kviraSi<br />
ara, erTi kvira didi droa, or<br />
dReSi filologebis saxsenebeli<br />
ar iyos saqarTveloSi! arcerTi<br />
filologi Cvens gverdiT! aba,<br />
imoqmedoT! _ uTqvams tariel saakaSvils,<br />
moxtomia Tavis TviTmfrinavs<br />
da Rrubel-Rrubel, malviT,<br />
gaurkveveli mimarTulebiT gauCinarebula.<br />
eh, filologebo, filologebo!<br />
xom vambobdi, ar SeiZleba am<br />
filologebis mikrofonTan miSveba,<br />
egeni dagvRupaven da dagvaqcevenmeTqi.<br />
ager, Tu ar dagvRupes...
4 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
netav, sad aris is organizacia,<br />
sadac yaCaRobis licenzias<br />
iZlevian?<br />
ar miTxraT axla arc organizacia<br />
arsebobs sadme da<br />
arc aseTi licenziao.<br />
Tu ar arsebobs, aba, vin<br />
misca maSin Cvens xelisuflebas<br />
dRisiT, mzisiT yaCa-<br />
Robis ufleba?<br />
2003 wlidan dRemde yaCa-<br />
Robs es xelisufleba da<br />
licenzia rom ar hqondes,<br />
amden xans vin ayaCaRebda?<br />
_ Tqveni bralia, Tqven<br />
airCieT da Tqvens Tavs daabraleT,<br />
_ Semomepasuxeba mavani.<br />
kaco, Cven xelisuflebad<br />
avirCieT es dalocvilebi,<br />
yaCaRebad xom ara?<br />
esec rom ar iyos, sanam<br />
Cven avirCevdiT, manamde<br />
Semogvimtvries<br />
parlamentis karebi,<br />
Sextnen da imis Semdeg<br />
Zirs ar Camosulan.<br />
* * *<br />
`burjis~ `eqspropriaciis~<br />
suraTebi<br />
vinc naxa _ rogor<br />
gahyavdaT `burjis~<br />
kuTvnili manqanebi<br />
RamiT, malulad, rogor<br />
eqceodnen burjis<br />
TanamSromlebs,<br />
rogor `iyida~ `burjis~<br />
qoneba romeli-<br />
Rac axladgamomcxvarma firmam,<br />
romelic burjis dayada-<br />
Rebis meore Tu mesame dRes<br />
dafuZnda, albaT, dameTanxmeba,<br />
rom es yvelaferi Zalian<br />
hgavda kargad dagegmil, kargad<br />
organizebul yaCaRobas,<br />
romlis msgavsi `operaciebi~<br />
am xelisuflebas xelisuflebaSi<br />
mosvlis dRidan araerTxel<br />
Caudenia.<br />
gavixsenoT, `vardebis revoluciis~<br />
triumfaluri gamarjvebis<br />
Semdeg, pirvelive<br />
dReebidanve rogor daerivnen<br />
`vardosnebi~ SevardnaZisdroindel<br />
Cinovnikebs, biznesmenebs,<br />
ganurCevlad yvelas,<br />
visTanac fuli da qoneba<br />
egulebodaT.<br />
rac maSin xdeboda, amas<br />
aranairi Sexeba ar hqonia kanonTan<br />
da samarTalTan, Tumca<br />
pirebi, romlebic am sadamsjelo<br />
operaciebs xelm-<br />
ZRvanelobdnen, saxelmwifo<br />
struqturebis warmomadgenlebi<br />
iyvnen da saxelmwifos<br />
saxeliT moqmedebdnen.<br />
`gankulakebis~ RonisZiebebs<br />
imJamindeli generaluri<br />
prokuratura da Sinagan saqmeTa<br />
saministro xelmZRvanelobda,<br />
Tumca sqema, romli-<br />
Tac es oficialuri saxelmwifo<br />
struqturebi moqmedebdnen,<br />
ufro kriminaluri bandis<br />
mier calkeuli pirebis-<br />
Tvis fulis Seweris gegmas<br />
Seesabameboda, vidre saxelmwifo<br />
struqturebis qmedebas.<br />
sqema Zalze martivi da<br />
ubralo iyo _ pirs, romelzec<br />
eWvi hqondaT, rom didi<br />
fulis patroni iyo, iWerdnen<br />
da saTanado Tanxis gadaxdis<br />
Semdeg aTavisuflebdnen.<br />
xSir SemTxvevaSi sazogadoebisTvis<br />
ucnobi rCeboda,<br />
ra konkretuli braldebebiT<br />
iyo dakavebuli esa Tu is piri,<br />
an ramdens Seadgenda is<br />
Tanxa, romlis gadaxdasac<br />
mas Txovdnen.<br />
zogjer mizanSi amoRebuli<br />
msxverplis dakavebac ki<br />
ar iyo saWiro _ msxverpli<br />
nebayoflobiT midioda saTanado<br />
adgilas da nebayoflobiT<br />
ixdida misTvis Sewirul<br />
Tanxas _ milionebze, Zalian<br />
did fulzea saubari.<br />
dakavebao ki vambobT, magram<br />
sinamdvileSi amas dakavebas<br />
ver vuwodebT, radgan<br />
adamianebis dakaveba xdeboda<br />
yovelgvari procesualuri<br />
normebis gareSe.<br />
faqtobrivad, es iyo adamianebis<br />
gataceba da datyveveba<br />
gamosasyidis miRebis<br />
mizniT, rac romelime kriminaluri<br />
dajgufebis, romelime<br />
sindikatis mier ki ara<br />
oficialuri saxelmwifo<br />
struqturebis mier xorcieldeboda.<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
novnikuri `wvrilfexoba~<br />
Seesia.<br />
daaxloebiT ise moxda,<br />
rogorc omSi xdeba xolme _<br />
gamarjvebis Semdeg mTavar<br />
nadavls da avla-didebas<br />
umaRlesi Cinebi epatronebian,<br />
Semdeg ki qalaqs ramdenime<br />
dRiT jariskacebs miugdeben<br />
saZarcvavad da sayaCaRod.<br />
xelisuflebam wvrili Tu<br />
saSualo biznesi dasawiokeblad<br />
Tavis erTgul jariskacebs<br />
miugdo da isinic gauvin<br />
arian eseni _ adgilobrivi<br />
mniSvnelobis yaCaRebis banda<br />
Tu saerTaSoriso mafiis wevrebi?<br />
msgavsi ram, albaT, msoflios<br />
arc erT qveyanaSi ar<br />
momxdara.<br />
es iyo gaugonari masStabebis<br />
reketi, gaugonari mas-<br />
Stabebis Zarcva, romlis sa-<br />
TaveSic saxelmwifo struqturebi<br />
idgnen.<br />
aravin iwuxebda Tavs dakavebulisTvis<br />
gamoZiebiT<br />
dadgenili faqtebis safuZvelze<br />
waeyenebinaT braldeba,<br />
Semdeg ki am braldebis<br />
mixedviT, saTanado<br />
procesebis dacviT, sasamarTlos<br />
emsjela da<br />
amis mixedviT gamoetanaT<br />
ganaCeni.<br />
braldebulebs pirdapir<br />
usaxelebdnen<br />
cifrs _ zogs erT milions,<br />
zogs ors,<br />
zogs xuTs, zogs _<br />
aTs an ocdaaTs, Tumca<br />
aravin ganmartavda,<br />
konkretulad ra dana-<br />
SaulisTvis unda gadaexada<br />
`damnaSaves~<br />
vTqvaT, aTi milioni<br />
da ara xuTi, _ an<br />
oci?<br />
erTma advokatma aRiara: _<br />
is advokatebi, romlebic am<br />
saqmeebze vmuSaobdiT, yvelani<br />
dasaWerebi varT... saqme is<br />
aris, rom xSirad swored<br />
advokatebis saxelze formdeboda<br />
is Tanxebi, romlebic<br />
braldebulebs unda gadaexadaT<br />
_ viTom advokats<br />
Sehqonda fuli<br />
dasacavi subieqtis<br />
dasaxsnelad... me, piradad,<br />
ramdenime msxvili<br />
Tanxa maqvs `gadaxdili~<br />
Cemi klientebis<br />
`gamosasyidad~.<br />
vinmem rom mki-<br />
Txos, saidan gqonda<br />
Sen, erT Cveulebriv<br />
rigiT advokats amdeni<br />
fulio, ra vupasuxo?<br />
Tanxa specialurad<br />
am SemTxvevebis-<br />
Tvis Seqmnil specialur<br />
fondSi iricxeboda,<br />
magram rogorc is adamianebi<br />
irwmunebian, romlebsac uSualod<br />
daatydaT Tavs nacmoZraobis<br />
represiebi, fondSi<br />
oficialurad Tanxis mxolod<br />
mcire nawili fiqsirdeboda,<br />
danarCeni ki `inkvizitorebis~<br />
uZiro jibeebSi<br />
ileqeboda.<br />
ase, magaliTad, erTs oci<br />
milioni miatanines, aqedan ki<br />
mxolod sami milioni gaatares<br />
buRaltrulad, danarCeni<br />
jibeSi Caides.<br />
meores aTi milioni gadaaxdevines,<br />
Tumca fondSi<br />
mxolod milionnaxevari dafiqsirda.<br />
mravlad arian iseTebic,<br />
romelTa saxelebs da gvarebs<br />
specfondis siaSi saer-<br />
Tod ver naxavT. Tumca am<br />
adamianebs soliduri Tanxebi<br />
aqvT gadaxdili `nacmoZraobis~<br />
`obSCiakis~ sasargeblod.<br />
sad midioda es aRuricxavi<br />
milionebi da rogor nawildeboda<br />
igi, amis Sesaxeb<br />
zusti informacia, ra Tqma<br />
unda, ar arsebobs, Tumca<br />
SegviZlia vivaraudoT, rom<br />
Tanxebs xelisuflebis ma-<br />
RalCinosnebi da `nacmoZraobis~<br />
elita inawilebda.<br />
xelisuflebis mier gaugonari<br />
cinizmiT da utifrobiT<br />
Cadenili es yaCaRobebi<br />
saerTod ar gamxdara saerTa-<br />
Soriso demokratiuli Tanamegobrobis<br />
SeSfoTebis an<br />
ganxilvis sagani.<br />
`demokratiis Suqurad~<br />
Seracxuli axalgazrda liderisTvis<br />
aravis ukadrebia<br />
zedmeti sityva da aravis<br />
uTqvams: _ Tqven `vardebis<br />
revolucia~ imisTvis moaxdineT,<br />
rom adamianebi legalurad<br />
geZarcvaT Tu imisTvis,<br />
rom demokratiuli institutebi<br />
geSenebinaT?<br />
arc is uTqvams vinmes saakaSvilisTvis<br />
_ Tqven prezidenti<br />
brZandebiT, batono,<br />
Tu banditebis atamani, Ria<br />
rekets rom eweviTo?<br />
aravis ar uTqvams es ma-<br />
Sin ise rogorc ar uTqvams<br />
dRes, rodesac `nacmoZraoba~<br />
da misi atamani arnaxuli cinizmiT<br />
da TavxedobiT aterorebs<br />
da ayaCaRebs biZina<br />
ivaniSvils, kaxi kalaZes, koalicia<br />
`qarTuli ocnebis~<br />
wevrebs da mxardaWerebs.<br />
saakaSvili da misi gundi<br />
dResac zustad ise moqmedebs,<br />
rogorc `vardebis revoluciis~<br />
pirvel wlebSi.<br />
maT ar SeucvliaT xelwera,<br />
ar SeucvliaT zne, ar<br />
SeucvliaT Zarcvis xerxebi<br />
da meTodebi.<br />
gairkva, rom Rrmad cdebodnen<br />
isini, `vardosnebis~<br />
kriminalur qmedebebs xelisuflebaSi<br />
mosvlis pirvel<br />
wlebSi qveyanaSi Seqmnili<br />
eqstremaluri situaciiT<br />
xsnida da imedovnebda, rom<br />
axalgazrda, eiforiul<br />
mdgomareobaSi myofi xelisufleba<br />
droTa ganmavlobaSi<br />
daRvindeboda da gakeTilSobildeboda.<br />
rogorc Cans, warTmeva,<br />
wagleja, Zarcva, terori,<br />
reketi maT sisxlSi uziT da<br />
isini mudam aseTebad darCebian,<br />
Tundac asi wlis moiyvaron.<br />
* * *<br />
... roca cnobili `fulis<br />
tomrebi~ dabertyes, wasarTmevi<br />
waarTves, milionebi<br />
aaxies da gasaZarcvic aravin<br />
darCa, qveyanaSi cota xniT<br />
simSvidem da siCumem daisadgura,<br />
magram es sulac ar<br />
niSnavda imas, rom yaCaRebma<br />
yaCaRobaze xeli aiRes da gamosworebis<br />
gzas daadgnen.<br />
daiwyo yaCaRobis axali,<br />
ufro konspiraciuli da SeniRbuli<br />
etapi.<br />
Tu aqamde yaCaRobis scenebs<br />
dRisiT, mzisiT, pirdapir<br />
Ria eTerSi gadascemdnen,<br />
axla Zarcvam da reketma ufro<br />
Ramis saaTebSi gadainacvla<br />
da gasaidumloebuli saxe<br />
miiRo.<br />
SeZlebuli da fuliani<br />
adamianebis elitaruli<br />
nawilis gafcqvna-gayvlefis<br />
Semdeg<br />
im moqalaqeebis<br />
jeric dadga, romlebsac,<br />
marTalia,<br />
milionebi ar hqondaT,<br />
magram qarTuli<br />
sinamdvilis kvalobaze,<br />
mainc, ase<br />
Tu ise, seriozuli<br />
qoneba gaaCndaT.<br />
daiwyo farTomasStabiani<br />
nadiroba<br />
maRaziebis, restornebis,<br />
kafeebis,<br />
mcire sawarmoebis<br />
mepatroneebze, biznesmenebze.<br />
Tu SeZlebul adamianTa<br />
elitis dayaCaRebas saxelisuflo<br />
elita xelmZRvanelobda,<br />
`wvrilfexobas~ Ci-
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
5<br />
gonari sixarbiT Seudgnen<br />
saqmes.<br />
vinmem aRnusxa, vinmem aRwera,<br />
vimem iangariSa ramden<br />
moqalaqes waarTves biznesi<br />
`revoluciis jariskacebma~,<br />
ramdens `aaxies~ maRaziebi,<br />
Senoba-nagebobebi, sxvadasxva<br />
saxis sawarmo obieqtebi, ramdens<br />
Caujdnen wilSi, ramdens<br />
gaumwares sicocxle, ramdeni<br />
daaqcies da gaaubedures pagonianma<br />
da upagono yaCaRebma<br />
saxelmwifo struqturebidan?<br />
aTiaTasobiT adamiani daayaCaRes<br />
`vardebis revoluciidan~<br />
dRemde, Tumca damyaCa-<br />
ReblebisTvis pasuxi aravis<br />
mouTxovia.<br />
Tu dadga is dro,<br />
roca qveyanaSi kanoniereba<br />
da samarTali aRsdgeba<br />
da saakaSvilis<br />
reJimis mier Cadenili<br />
Zaladobis, Zarcvis,<br />
ukanonobis da usamar-<br />
Tlobis yvela faqti<br />
saTanadod iqneba Seswavlili<br />
da gamoZiebuli,<br />
merwmuneT, Tqvens<br />
winaSe Sokismomgvreli,<br />
SemaZrwunebeli<br />
suraTi gadaiSleba,<br />
romelsac Tavisi arnaxulad<br />
didi masStabebiT msoflioSi<br />
analogi ar moeZebneba.<br />
* * *<br />
am werilSi araferi gviTqvams<br />
im cnobil yaCaRobebze,<br />
romlebic badri patarkaciSvilis<br />
da qibar xalvaSis mimarT<br />
ganxorcielda.<br />
am faqtebs yaCaRobas ver<br />
vuwodeb, es aris kargad organizebuli<br />
da kargad dagegmili<br />
samxedro operaciis<br />
msgavsi moqmedebebi, romleb-<br />
Sic saxelmwifos CarTuli<br />
hyavda SeiaraRebuli razmebi,<br />
zonderebi, jibis `prokurorebi~,<br />
jibis `mosamarTleebi~,<br />
romlebic xelisuflebad wodebuli<br />
kriminaluri bandis<br />
interesebs emsaxurebian da<br />
ara kanonierebis dacvas da<br />
aRsrulebas.<br />
am werilSi araferi<br />
gviTqvams bolo<br />
xanebSi biZina ivaniSvilis,<br />
kaxi kalaZis,<br />
koalicia `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ da misi<br />
mxardamWerebis winaaRmdeg<br />
mimarTul finansur<br />
represiebze<br />
da terorze.<br />
araferi gviTqvams,<br />
agreTve, xelisuflebis<br />
mier qarTuli saxelmwifos<br />
winaSe Cadenil<br />
araerT ekonomikur<br />
danaSaulze,<br />
roca sxvisdeba da<br />
iyideba strategiuli<br />
mniSvnelobis obieqtebi, sxvisdeba<br />
da iyideba wiaRiseuli<br />
simdidreebi, sxvisdeba da<br />
iyideba miwa, tye, wyali da<br />
a.S. saidanac, rogorc amboben,<br />
xelisuflebas uzarmazari<br />
sargebeli rCeba.<br />
yovelive amis Semdeg, albaT,<br />
sruliad samarTliania<br />
gavakeToT daskvna, rom am qveyanas<br />
yaCaRebis, banditebis,<br />
avazakebis xrova marTavs.<br />
Tu es asea, maSin isic upriania<br />
vikiTxoT: _ vin umagrebs<br />
zurgs am kriminalTa<br />
bandas saerTaSoriso asparezze,<br />
ra Zalebi mfarveloben<br />
maT da ris safasurad da<br />
sazRaurad?<br />
adgilobrivi mniSvnelobis<br />
yaCaRebis bandaa es Tu saer-<br />
TaSoriso, transkontinentaluri<br />
sindikatis qarTuli<br />
filiali.<br />
Tu gaviziarebT im mosazrebas,<br />
rom saqarTvelo<br />
dRes naxevradkoloniuri<br />
qveyanaa, SeiZleba<br />
vifiqroT, am marTlac<br />
danaSaulebrivi da kriminaluri<br />
xelisuflebis<br />
bosebi sworedac<br />
rom saqarTvelos sazRvrebs<br />
gareT imyofebian<br />
da iqidan mfarveloben<br />
da patronoben TavianTi<br />
sindikatis wevrebs.<br />
sxvanairad rom<br />
iyos, eseni aq amden<br />
xans ase dausjelad<br />
ver iparpaSebdnen...<br />
giorgi<br />
gamezardaSvili<br />
saakaSvilis `didgori~<br />
da `urjuloebi~<br />
didgoris velze mTavarsardalma mixeilma<br />
nacionaluri laSqari Sehyara da velze<br />
Sesasvleli yvela gzis Caxergva brZana:<br />
_ arc erTi ar SemouSvaT, gadaketeT yvela<br />
gza, yvela biliki da am urjuloebs<br />
cxviri ar SemoayofinoT aqo.<br />
brZaneba myisve Sesrulda<br />
da `qarTuli ocnebis~<br />
da `Tavisufali<br />
saqarTvelos~ warmomadgenlebi<br />
didgorobis dResaswaulze<br />
ar SeuSves.<br />
_ qarTvelebi varT<br />
Cvenc da didgoroba Cvenc<br />
gvinda vizeimoTo, _ aprotestebdnen<br />
isini, magram<br />
amaod.<br />
eh, verafers ver mimxvdarxarT<br />
Tqven, Zvirfaso<br />
megobrebo, mixeilisTvis<br />
is ki ar aris mTavari,<br />
vin qarTvelia da vin ara,<br />
aramed is, mxars uWer Tu<br />
ara mas da mis gunds.<br />
mxars Tu ar uWer da<br />
miSa!-miSas Tu ar gahyviri,<br />
misTvis urjuloc xar da<br />
gadamTielic.<br />
Turq-selCukebi hgonixarT<br />
Tqven, magas, an mon-<br />
RolTa urdoebi, ar gesmodaT,<br />
rogori xafi xmiT<br />
azanzarebda iqaurobas _<br />
Cven aucileblad gavimarjvebTo?<br />
arCevnebisTvis ki ara,<br />
mgoni, omisTvis emzadeba es kaci da ar gagikvirdeT,<br />
TiTo saarCevno yuTTan TiTo abjarasxmuli<br />
da xmalmomarjvebuli `naceli~<br />
meomari dagvxdeT _ ar Semoxazav xuTians da<br />
egreve Tavs wagagdebinebT...<br />
giorgi gamezardaSvili<br />
xalxis azriT<br />
miSa, Seni ar vici, magram arc me vapireb<br />
SegarCino mowamluli da nacemi<br />
Tbiliselebis javri, 26 maiss daxocili<br />
xalxis gvamebze Catarebuli aRlumi,<br />
arc gaRatakebuli, valebiT da jarimebiT<br />
welmowyvetili qarTvelebis javrs Sev-<br />
WamT! cixeSi nawamebi da daxocili biWebis<br />
javrsac cxviridan gadenT! am biWebis sicocxlec<br />
Sens kiserzea. eseni samSoblos ar icavdnen,<br />
Sen maT Seni sakuTari postis SesanarCuneblad<br />
agzavnidi.... me ar gadmovyri niangis<br />
cremlebs, magram Sen rom pasuxi ago, magisTvis<br />
vibrZoleb!... saqarTvelo Sen 1 oqtombers<br />
kidev erTxel getyvis aras da gaqcevaze arc<br />
ifiqro!!!<br />
vfiqrob da marTla ver gamigia imaTi<br />
vinc 8 wlis ukan ibrZoda SevardnaZisa<br />
da abaSiZis gadasayeneblad . ratom<br />
uWeren dRes mxars miSas? Cven xom<br />
Tavisuflebisa da demokratiis ufro meti xarisxi<br />
gvindoda, gvindoda samarTlebrivi saxelmwifo<br />
da mivoReT avtokratiisa da tiraniis<br />
ufro meti xarisxi axalgazrda niWieri<br />
mmarTvelis nacvlad naxevrad SeSleli kosmopoliti<br />
da mainc mogvwons??e.i. Tqven arc sam-<br />
Soblo arc saxelnwifo ar ganaRvlebT ! Tqven<br />
zogs sakuTari stomaqis sisavse da danarCensac<br />
sulis a da gonebis sisustiT gamowveili<br />
simxdale anRvlebs da alaparakebs da Tu es<br />
esea me Cemi saqarTvelos Cemi Svilebis da momavlis<br />
saxeliT ver mogcemT uflebas gadawyvitoT<br />
qveynis bedi !!!!<br />
viRacas Semoxazvas avaleben, viRacas<br />
dubinkis Cartymas, viRacas ukana fexebze<br />
dgomas, viRacas gadagdebuli<br />
joxis an burTis motanas, viRacas uqseven....<br />
oRond mag SemTxvevaSi viRaceebi aRar<br />
arian, raRaceebi arian, radgan RmerTisagan miniWebul<br />
Tavisufali nebis uflebas Tmoben:<br />
lukmis fasad, fulis fasad, blatnoi nomriani<br />
telefonis fasad, saxlSi espanuri kafelis<br />
fasad....<br />
agvistos omSi daRupulebs pativs mivagebT,<br />
Zalianac kargi... magram ra daaSaves<br />
afxazeTSi daRupulebma? ra daaSaves<br />
imaT vinc samaCabloSi daiRupa<br />
gasuli saukunis 90-ian wlebSi? davijero isini<br />
bangladeSisTvis daiRupnen? isinic Cveni<br />
qveynisTvis daiRupnen. isinic samSoblos icavdnen.<br />
SiSveli xelebiT icavdnen samSoblos.... ar<br />
SiZleba xalxis dayofa. xolo samSoblosTvis<br />
daRupulebis dayofa didi uzneobaa.<br />
ratom emzadebian ase zugdidSi? sxva<br />
qalaqebSi “mRelvarebis” molodini<br />
ratom ar qondaT?! iqneb swored imitomac<br />
elian, rom am mRelvarebis<br />
provocirebac aris dRis wesrigSi? Tu asea,<br />
maSin es yvelaze didi Secdomaa, rac ki xelisuflebas<br />
aqamde qonia. es dasasrulis dasawyisi<br />
iqneba!
6 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
saCxereSi Cinel `rostom wereTels~<br />
maRazia uyidia, male Svili unda SeeZinos<br />
Turme da akaki unda davarqvao, iZaxis...<br />
interviu baton<br />
<strong>rezo</strong> amaSukelTan.<br />
_ batono <strong>rezo</strong>, amas winaT<br />
daviT baqraZem ganacxada da<br />
es, principSi, nacionaluri<br />
ideologiis nawilicaa, rom<br />
qarTvelma xalxma Tavisuflebis<br />
gemo da fasi bolo 8<br />
wlis ganmavlobaSi gaigo, roca<br />
axali xelisuflebis mier<br />
ufro farTod gaiRo fanjrebi<br />
evropiskeno.<br />
_ diax, zogierTma qarTvelma<br />
am bolo xanebSi gaigo,<br />
rogor daagiravos ukanali,<br />
rogor gaTxovdes kaci kacze<br />
da qali qalze. amerikelebi<br />
da evropelebi maswavlian me<br />
Tavisuflebas, roca ZaRleb-<br />
Tan qorwinebis ufleba aqvT?!<br />
amerikac aRaraa is, rac adre<br />
iyo, nuravin maswavlis me amerikas.<br />
Tavi daanebon amiT bravirebas.<br />
baqraZes kidev is ur-<br />
Cevnia, sarkeSi Caixedos, araraobidan<br />
moTreuli araraoba<br />
rom aris. bokeria rom imarTlebs<br />
Tavs, davbrundi saqarTveloSio,<br />
vis raSi sWirdeba<br />
eg da misnairebi, wiTeli xididan<br />
garbodnen omis dros<br />
da gaitanes naxevari saqarTvelo.<br />
axlac nel-nela gaaqvT<br />
Turme, momdis ambebi amis Sesaxeb.<br />
rac amaT ar miaqvT,<br />
teftma da sxvebma waiRes sa-<br />
Cuqrad _ Zvirfasi qarTuli<br />
xaliCebi da aTasi Zvirfasi<br />
rame.<br />
_ ramdenime dRis win putinma<br />
Tqva, rom ruseTis mxare<br />
karga xani amzadebda gegmas,<br />
saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
winaaRmdegoba rom gaewia. mTavrobam<br />
amis mosmenis Semdeg<br />
erTi Jivil-xivili atexa: ai,<br />
xom xedavT, aRiara ruseTma<br />
is, rom omi cxinvalSi misi<br />
dawyebulia.<br />
_ me arasdros<br />
miTqvams, rom omi<br />
cxinvalSi saqar-<br />
Tvelom daiwyo<br />
da amas arasdros<br />
vityvi, radgan<br />
omi saqarTvelom<br />
ki ara saakaSvilma<br />
daiwyo cxinvalSi.<br />
dResac vambob<br />
da sanam pir-<br />
Si suli midgas,<br />
yovelTvis vityvi,<br />
rom es asea, imitom, rom me<br />
vijeqi televizorTan da Tvi-<br />
Ton vuyurebdi, es idioti, es<br />
kurdReli, kurdRlis cremlebiT<br />
rom tiris xolme, yovel<br />
naxevar saaTSi rom gamodioda<br />
da ambobda: aviReT es,<br />
aviReT is, viTom maknamara<br />
myavdes, an aleqsandre makedoneli.<br />
foTSi gamosula<br />
da, ar daiCoqa daviT<br />
aRmaSenebelma, ar daiCoqa<br />
gorgasalmao,<br />
meti ra daCoqeba unda,<br />
mTeli msoflios<br />
winaSe Tavi mogvWra.<br />
kidev kargi, rom icis<br />
yvelam, qarTveli amas<br />
ar izamda, rac aman<br />
gaakeTa _ cxviriT<br />
moxna asfalti da mere<br />
imaze daiwyo laparaki<br />
_ Rirseba davibrunoTo.<br />
magis xelSi<br />
rogor SeiZleba<br />
saqarTvelom Rirseba<br />
daibrunos.<br />
xom xedavT, risTvis movidnen?<br />
Tavidan bolomde spoben<br />
yvelafer qarTuls. axlaxan<br />
xatebis gatanasTan dakav-<br />
SirebiT rac moxda, yvelam viciT.<br />
awyurisa da zarzmis<br />
RvTismSoblis xatebis muzeumidan<br />
gatanas muzeumis Tanam-<br />
Sromeli qalbatoni da Jurnalisti<br />
nino miqiaSvili gauwvnen<br />
muzeumis karebTan. am winaaRmdegobis<br />
Semdeg, merabiSvilis<br />
brZanebiT, im dRes es<br />
gadawyvetileba SeCerda. magram<br />
aravin icis SemdgomSi ra<br />
moxda.<br />
7 agvistos Tbilisidan<br />
axalcixis rabaTis muzeumSi<br />
xelnawerTa erovnuli centridan<br />
axalcixeSi Sansonie<br />
Sarl aznavuris dasaxvedrad<br />
dagegmili RonisZiebisTvis<br />
sujukTan, basturmasa da somxur<br />
koniakebTan erTad ukve<br />
gatanilia beqa opizris moWedili<br />
`wyarosTavi~, aRbuRas<br />
`samarTlis wigni~ da `gurjistanis<br />
vilaieTis didi dav-<br />
Tari~. mTavar maspinZels, am<br />
wamliT Tavgasiebul miSas<br />
misxali musikaluri smena ar<br />
gaaCnia da sinkopes grZnoba<br />
xom RmerTma ar daanaTla, amitom<br />
marto am marTlac gamo-<br />
Cenili momRerlis saxeze sayureblad<br />
Tu Cavidoda axalcixeSi.<br />
eqsponatebis gatanis faqti,<br />
rogorc me vici, am centris<br />
direqtorma buba kudavam<br />
daadastura. `dasturi~ mere<br />
naxeT, am siwmindeebs Tu rame<br />
SeemTxvaT. SeemTxvaT-meTqi,<br />
vambob, Torem, ise, viTom, arc<br />
araferi gautaniaT am satanebs<br />
da arc araferi dakargula<br />
aqamde saerTod.<br />
sityvam moitana da, zustad<br />
vici, zogierTebs pirdapir<br />
saxlSi mohqondaT Zvirfasi<br />
naxatebis originalebi,<br />
magram amiT jer aravin dainteresebula<br />
imitom, rom, me<br />
vityodi, es elementaruli<br />
qurdebi miSas fexis mlokavebi<br />
arian. batoni kudava amtkicebs<br />
da irwmuneba, rom `wyarosTvis~<br />
transportireba SesaZlebelia.<br />
me ki aqedanve veubnebi,<br />
rom es arafriT ar SeiZleba<br />
da rbilad rom vTqvaT,<br />
danaSaulia. eris genocidis<br />
es sulieri Semoqmedebi, romlebic<br />
Tanmimdevrulad spoben<br />
yovelive qarTuls pirisagan<br />
miwisa, kidev bedaven, rom am<br />
tansacmlian giJs da saqarTvelos<br />
dauZinebel mters _ garekil<br />
I kvlav SeunarCunon<br />
ayrolebuli taxti. ratom<br />
xdeba es? imitom rom sabolood<br />
amogvZirkvon da amogvagdon.<br />
ratom unda miviRoT Cven<br />
siriidan gamoqceuli somxebi?<br />
iciT, Tqven, aris amaze laparaki.<br />
imitom undaT amis gake-<br />
Teba, rom saqarTvelo gaanadguron!<br />
Cemi qaliSvili iyo amas<br />
winaT xaragaulSi. Cinelebs<br />
miaqvs iqauroba. xaragaulis<br />
tyeebi sul magaT xelSia. Tanac<br />
swrafad mravldebian. xelisufleba<br />
cdilobs aTqvifos<br />
eseni adgilobriv mosaxleobaSi.<br />
gadagvareba undaT<br />
Cveni.<br />
Tqveni patronis dedac,<br />
ratom unda iyos saqarTvelo-<br />
Si SaSkini Tavdacvis ministri,<br />
kaci gamoilia am qveyana-<br />
Si?!<br />
keJera fxali gamigonia,<br />
magram kezeraSvili ministri,<br />
ra ubedurebaa?!<br />
miliarderia, batonebo,<br />
Tqveni miSiko. biZina ivaniSvili<br />
magasTan saSualo xelfasis<br />
mqonesaviTaa. SeuZlebeli<br />
da warmoudgenelia eseni ar-<br />
CevnebiT wavidnen aqedan.<br />
_ magram SeuZlebelia da<br />
pirdapir momakvdinebeli saxelmwifosTvis<br />
kidev erTi<br />
sisxlisRvra, kidev erTi revolucia.<br />
_ mec kategoriuli winaaRmdegi<br />
var iaraRiT saqmis<br />
gakeTebis. me imas vambob,<br />
rom<br />
eri Seikribos da<br />
daumorCilebloba<br />
gamovacxadoT. yovelgvari<br />
iaraRis, tyviis<br />
da aseTi rameebis<br />
gareSe gamovideT<br />
gareT da Cumad davdgeT.<br />
ar jobia er-<br />
Txel davixocoT, vidre<br />
amas vuyuroT<br />
mTeli cxovreba?<br />
eseni Cven dagvindoben, roca<br />
SevardnaZe `SeWames~, rogorc<br />
mgeli totia axalgazrda<br />
mglebma? ra eqna Sevardna-<br />
Zes? ambobs dRes vinme imas,<br />
rogor gaagdo man mailsi kabinetidan?<br />
razec SevardnaZem<br />
xeli ar moawera, yvelaferi<br />
gaakeTes amaT. kidev vimeoreb,<br />
eseni yvelaferze xelis momwerni<br />
arian. TvalebSi CaxedeT,<br />
xalxo, imas, Ciora, Cito-gvrito<br />
rom aris Tu boloqanqara;<br />
rom laparakobda,<br />
ramdenimejer gaisriala mis<br />
TvalebSi gvelma. kargad daakvirdiT,<br />
me ar meSleba aseTi<br />
rameebi. aTasnairi xrikebi<br />
aqvT amaT mofiqrebuli Cvens<br />
winaaRmdeg. es gogoriSvili<br />
rom aris, es qurdi, xmebis<br />
qurdi, iseT rameebs gegmavs<br />
Turme, rom winaswar ician, ra<br />
moxdeba arCevnebSi. momdis<br />
xmebi, vici yvelaferi magaTi<br />
veragobis Sesaxeb.<br />
anda ranairad SeiZleba<br />
adamianma gulgrilad uyuros<br />
halstuxian xvliks, WiaTura-<br />
Si rom CaZvra. jer iyo da,<br />
xborebs didi SpriciT uke-<br />
Tebda nemsebs, mere yveli<br />
amohyavda, xan Tafli amoiRo,<br />
xan avtobusis saWesTan ijda,<br />
Tumca ar Canda, mis wawvrilebul<br />
cxvirs vxedavdiT mxolod.<br />
Semdeg SaxtSi CaZvra.<br />
daadgiT fexi, qar-<br />
Tvelebo, am xvliks<br />
wvetian kudze, Torem,<br />
SeiZleba, iseTi<br />
didi gveli miviRoT,<br />
sanatreli gagvixdes<br />
danarCeni sxva. am bolos<br />
halstuxi moixsna,<br />
radgan mTeli saqarTvelo<br />
`galstukian<br />
xvliks~ eZaxis,<br />
magram rogorc ki mo-
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />
7<br />
ixsna, `ugalstuko Sadimani~<br />
gaxda. ra qnas<br />
saakaSvilis mowuwnulma<br />
kanfetma _ prezidentoba<br />
esizmreba.<br />
warmoidgineT, es quslebze<br />
Semxtari xvliki konstituciaze<br />
da bibliaze xeldadebuli<br />
fics rom debs saqarTvelos<br />
winaSe. aqamde miiyvanes saqarTvelo.<br />
vai, Cvens moswrebas, amaze<br />
fiqric ki rom SeuZlia am<br />
Taxsirs da moRalates.<br />
me gagafrTxileT, qarTvelebo.<br />
dafiqrdiT da ise nu<br />
izamT, rom mere Cemi sityvebis<br />
gaxsenebisas simwris oflma dagasxaT.<br />
kidev, kacitaZes vurCev, xelebis<br />
qnevas Tavi daanebos,<br />
Wkuas nu gvarigebs, vis ra gamoadgeba,<br />
Torem male dadgeba<br />
is dro, rom `gamosadegs~ male<br />
vnaxavT mis saqcielSi.<br />
es auditia Tu ra oxrobaa,<br />
xalxma ukve yadaRistani daarqva<br />
Cvens qveyanas. mogelaZis<br />
qalbatoni, qalTa koloniis<br />
zedamxedvels rom hgavs, ar<br />
fiqrobs, xval da zeg ra SeiZleba<br />
moelodes?<br />
`kaxelebis sakeTildReod~<br />
gadamdgari beJaSvili rom ibraxunebs<br />
gulze xels _ kaxelebs<br />
unda davexmaroo, gairkveva<br />
male, ra binZur saqmeebSic<br />
urevia. magis adgilas ki Cvenma<br />
brZenma da qveynis gadamrCenma<br />
isev Tavisi xelis biWi, zRvis<br />
goWi laSa Tordia daniSna. Tanamdebobriv<br />
karuselebze amden<br />
bzrialSi guli ar erevaT am<br />
ubedurebs?<br />
eWvi maqvs, rom fulis<br />
magivrad qolgebi<br />
daurigos miSam kaxelebs,<br />
imitom, rom<br />
eseni arc ivaniSvilis<br />
fulis da arc sakuTari<br />
miliardebis gadamxdelebi<br />
ar arian<br />
xalxis sakeTildReod.<br />
eseni arian Rorebi<br />
da am Rorebis kolts<br />
dro male gadaCexavs<br />
ufskrulSi.<br />
_ saarCevno procesi ZalaSi<br />
Sedis.<br />
_ ZalaSi Sedis ki ara, axla<br />
aris piki da me kategoriulad<br />
gamovricxav dasavleTis<br />
obieqtur damokidebulebas aq<br />
Catarebuli arCevnebis mimarT.<br />
Tu ivaniSvilma gaimarjva, maSinac<br />
gamoricxavTo, mkiTxaven.<br />
dasavleTi ar dauSvebs saqarTvelom<br />
damoukideblobisa da<br />
Tavisuflebisken nabiji gadadgas.<br />
me vambob, rom ar unda viyoT<br />
dasavleTis obieqturobis<br />
imedze.<br />
Tqveni gazeTis saSualebiT,<br />
daCoqili vTxov baton biZina<br />
ivaniSvilsa da namdvil politikosebs<br />
_ moiTxoveT lustraciis<br />
kanoni, raTa bolos da<br />
bolos gairkves, vin vin aris<br />
da saboloo jamSi, dadges im<br />
vaiJurnalistebis pasuxismgeblobis<br />
sakiTxic, vinc Sinagani<br />
prastitutkobiT ufro arian<br />
cnobilni, vidre profesionalizmiT.<br />
televizoris yuTma,<br />
romlis gareSec eseni arafers<br />
warmoadgenen, waarTva saqarTvelos<br />
momavali da daRupa qar-<br />
Tveli axalgazrdoba.<br />
totaluri mosmenebiT dazafres<br />
mosaxleoba, didi da patara.<br />
saTvalTvalo kamerebi magaT dauyenon<br />
TavianT colebs lajebSi.<br />
rogorc vici, TiToeul maTgans<br />
3-3000 km aqvT `gavlili~ da sa-<br />
Wiroebis dros Camoyrian xolme<br />
spidometrebs. amitom samSobloze<br />
laparaks Tavi daanebon. eseni<br />
kacebi ar arian.<br />
axla amboben, momaval<br />
parlamentSi nacionalebic<br />
iqnebian,<br />
isini, visac danaSauli<br />
ar Caudeniao, damisaxeleT<br />
erTi nacionali,<br />
visac danaSauli<br />
ar Caudenia, ubralo<br />
partiulebis garda,<br />
romlebic, aqeT-iqiT<br />
dahyavT da miSa-miSas<br />
ajRavleben.<br />
Tu eseni kidev darCnen xelisuflebaSi,<br />
es iqneba didi<br />
SeTqmuleba am patara saxelmwifos<br />
winaSe da brali daedeba<br />
amerikas, evropas, ruseTs...<br />
Cven kunZuli varT, kidev vimeoreb,<br />
kun-Zu-li da gvebrZvian,<br />
rom sabolood mospon qarTveli<br />
eri.<br />
_ nacionalebi da maTi momxre<br />
liberalebi, batono <strong>rezo</strong>,<br />
CamorCenili azrovnebis, regresis<br />
mimdevrebs da retrogradebs<br />
gviwodeben...<br />
_ Tqven iciT, ra saSiSroebis<br />
winaSe var me? ojaxiT vibrZvi.<br />
icis sazogadoebam amis<br />
Sesaxeb. Sorena begaSvili da<br />
duta sxirtlaZe aris dRes<br />
qarTveli eris saxe da<br />
minda qarTvelebs<br />
Sevaxseno: parizSi kolaboracionistebs<br />
da bozebs, germanel<br />
nacistebTan Sekrulebs<br />
rogor daeria bolos<br />
mTeli parizi. me<br />
amis momxre ara var,<br />
cxadia, magram arc<br />
imis momxre var, yvelaferi<br />
vapatioT amaT...<br />
guSinwin (08.08.<br />
2012. _ i.k.) me patriarqma<br />
sikvdils gadamar-<br />
Cina. jerjerobiT sxva<br />
araferi ar mki-<br />
TxoT.<br />
_ sad iyaviT? ra moxda?<br />
_ masTan viyavi, magram nu<br />
mekiTxebiT. patriarqma<br />
sikvdils gadamarCina!...<br />
roca saWiro iqneba, me TviTon<br />
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kaci sikvdilze unda<br />
fiqrobdeso. bolo xanebSi<br />
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erTmaneTSi kargi da<br />
cudi. anderZze vlaparakobdi<br />
_ minda damasaflaon<br />
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giorgis saxelobis<br />
eklesiis patara ezo-<br />
Si. ar maqvs sxva pretenzia.<br />
Zalian cud gunebaze<br />
var da ara mgonia,<br />
am arCevnebis Semdeg,<br />
Tu yvelaferi<br />
isev Zveleburad dar-<br />
Ca, Tavi vicocxlo da<br />
dabeCavebul qveyanas<br />
Cumad vuyuro.<br />
iranda kalandaZe<br />
P.S. interviu ukve dawerili<br />
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damireka: erTi aRmaSfoTebeli<br />
ambavi gavige, ramac mosveneba<br />
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ra ubedur dReSic varTo.<br />
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Torem dadgeba magis gankiTxvis<br />
dRec. magis dResaswauli<br />
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Cven, qarTvelebs dagvanebos!~<br />
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iyo roca gorozia mZRolad<br />
muSaobda borisovTan. ar<br />
mesmis ratom ver viyenebT<br />
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SeiZleba<br />
TviTmfrinavi Rrublebs<br />
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dokumentur films rom<br />
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8 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
gvesaubreba filosofosi<br />
goCa msxilaZe:<br />
_ goCa xelisufleba yovelgvar<br />
zRvars gadavida,<br />
ukanonod adamianebis qonebebis<br />
dayadaRebis seria grZeldeba.<br />
sazogadoebam adekvaturi<br />
pasuxi ar unda moiTxovos<br />
am qmedebebze?<br />
_ dayadaRebas, sxvis jibeSi<br />
xelisuflebis xelis<br />
faTuris aRviraxsnil politikas<br />
mravali waxnagi aqvs.<br />
erTerTi maTgania samarTlebrivi<br />
waxnagi, rac xelisuflebis<br />
mxridan kanonTan damokidebulebas<br />
gulisxmobs,<br />
meorea _ xelisuflebis moralur-zneobrivi<br />
saxe, romelsac<br />
farda, niRabi axdili<br />
aqvs, mesamea _ am qmedebebis<br />
mimarT sazogadoebis<br />
damokidebuleba. sazogadoeba<br />
protests ki gamoxatavs,<br />
magram am aRviraxsnili politikuri<br />
SantaJis mimarT<br />
mainc loialuria. mivyveT<br />
saTiTaod samive punqts. saerTod,<br />
CvenisTana hermafroditi<br />
tipis xelisuflebisTvis,<br />
romelic arc diqtatoria,<br />
arc demokrati, arc<br />
zneobrivia, arc uzneo, arc<br />
kargia, arc cudi, arc Wkviani,<br />
arc suleli _ damaxasiaTebelia<br />
kanonisadmi voluntaristuli<br />
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CvenTan kanoni brZolis,<br />
SantaJis, politikuri<br />
mowinaaRmdegis Caqolvis, ganadgurebis<br />
iaraRadaa qceuli.<br />
samwuxarod, es yvelaferi<br />
kanonis saxeliT keTdeba<br />
da es sazogadoebas, rogorc<br />
kanonis aRsruleba, ise miewodeba,<br />
rasac samarTalTan<br />
araviTari kavSiri ar aqvs.<br />
ufro metic, xelsufleba<br />
mudmivad iqneba am reJimSi,<br />
sanam sazogadoebas ar gvecodineba<br />
ra aris saxelmwifo.<br />
Cven varT eTnosi, magram<br />
ar varT eri.<br />
_ da miTumetes ar varT<br />
jansaRi eri.<br />
_ diax. grafi kavurim,<br />
romelmac me-19 saukuneSi<br />
italia gaaerTiana, Tqva _<br />
`Cven SevqmeniT italia, rogorc<br />
saxelmwifo, axla unda<br />
SevqmnaT italieli~. Cven<br />
gvaqvs saxelmwifo, magram<br />
ar gvyavs qarTveli eri. Cven<br />
ar varT eri, rogorc aseTi.<br />
imitom, rom nebismieri eri<br />
ganisazRvreba imiT, Tu ra<br />
damokidebuleba aqvT individebs<br />
saxelmwifos mimarT.<br />
mTeli ubedureba isaa, rom<br />
ver gagviazrebia saxelmwifo<br />
imitom, rom ar viciT ra<br />
movTxovoT xelisufalT.<br />
rac mas iZulebuls gaxdida<br />
xalxis moTxovnebis adekvaturi<br />
yofiliyo.<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis mimarT<br />
ganxorcielebuli araerTi<br />
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igi ver iazrebs, rom<br />
rodesac erTs arTmeven, mere<br />
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iseTi fsiqotipisTvis,<br />
rogoric saakaSvilia, mniSvneloba<br />
ar aqvs bevri aqvs<br />
adamians wasarTmevi, Tu cota,<br />
mTavaria wagarTvas. da<br />
roca moindomebs. wagarTmevs<br />
kidec, roca amis survili<br />
eqneba _ es jer ver gaucnobierebia<br />
qarTvel sazogadoebas.<br />
amitomac aris yru, Seuvali<br />
imasTan mimarTebaSi,<br />
rac biZina ivaniSvilze xorcieldeba.<br />
mesame _ moralur-zneobrivi<br />
saxe. am xelisuflebas<br />
ukve zneobrivmoraluri<br />
ufleba ar aqvs<br />
qarTveli sazogadoebis saxeliT<br />
ilaparakos imitom,<br />
rom igi iseTi xelisufalia,<br />
romelic yvelanairi xrikebiT<br />
cdilobs dagvingrios<br />
saxelmwifo da moqalaqeobrivi<br />
poziciebi CagvixSos.<br />
_ rogorc axseneT, sazogadoeba<br />
yrua, magram maT saboloo<br />
dayruebas TviTon<br />
opoziciac xom ar uwyobs<br />
xels?<br />
_ Cveni ubedureba iciT<br />
ra aris? _ sanam biZina ivaniSvili<br />
gamoCndeboda, politikuri<br />
opozicia ar<br />
gvyavda. isini baiburSi ar<br />
iyvnen Tu ra undodaT politikur<br />
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internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
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Cven gvyavs hermafroditi xelisufleba,<br />
romelic arc kacia, arc qali, Sesabamisad,<br />
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mahaTma gandis zneobrioba<br />
da sazogadoebis<br />
maRali idealebisadmi<br />
darazmva,<br />
warmoudgenelia. Tu<br />
opozicia raRacas<br />
daemsgavsa _ es imitom,<br />
rom politikur<br />
arenaze ivaniSvili<br />
gamoCnda. amitom<br />
maT me verafers<br />
vTxov.<br />
_ goCa, rogor<br />
axsniT im garemoebas,<br />
rom ivaniSvili<br />
dayadaRebuli qonebebis<br />
gamosyidviT<br />
xelisuflebis carieli<br />
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Cevnebs rogor movigebT?<br />
_ ivaniSvili ki ar uvsebs<br />
xelisuflebas jibeebs,<br />
aramed saakaSvili Tavad ivsebs<br />
dacarielebul jibeebs,<br />
yovlad utifrad, uxeSad.<br />
erTi ram unda gaviTvaliswinoT<br />
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Zlieri raRacebi arsebobs,<br />
rasac kanoni hqvia, rasac<br />
`simbolur kuapitals~ veZaxi.<br />
ai, swored es `simboluri<br />
kapitali~ gaaCnia xelisuflebas<br />
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da keravs, rogorc TviTon<br />
moeprianeba, amitom politikaSi<br />
fuli yovelTvis ganmsazRvreli<br />
ar aris. es rom<br />
ase yofiliyo, maSin am samyaroSi<br />
mahaTma gandi ar iqneboda.<br />
ar iqneboda arc aparteidis<br />
winaaRmdeg brZola<br />
mandelas meTaurobiT, ase<br />
rom xelisufleba am kapitals<br />
flobs da mas, rogorc<br />
maTraxs, ise iyenebs.<br />
_ goCa, am fonze biZina<br />
ivaniSvili, rogorc xelisuflebisgan<br />
Cagruli ise<br />
gamoiyureba...<br />
_ sazogadoeba biZina ivaniSvils,<br />
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moTxovnebis dakmayofilebis<br />
obieqts ise uyurebs. adamiani<br />
politikur moRvawes Tavisi<br />
sargeblianobis mixedviT<br />
afasebs. amitom sazogadoeba<br />
ar naRvlobs imaze,<br />
bevrs waarTmeven ivaniSvils<br />
Tu cotas. es rom ar iyos<br />
politikasTan ki ar gveqneboda<br />
saqme, aramed zneobas-<br />
Tan, moralTan, romelic makiavelma<br />
politikis sivrcidan<br />
gaitana.<br />
_ bolo dros xelisuflebis<br />
sateliti opoziciuri<br />
partiebidan JRerdeba mosazrebebi,<br />
TiTqos ivaniSvili<br />
rusis jaris Semoyvanas<br />
apirebs da a.S. ras niSnavs<br />
es, raze miuTiTeben am Sem-<br />
TxvevaSi saakaSvilis piriT<br />
molaparake opozicionerebi?<br />
_ Tqven, albaT baCuki<br />
qardavas gancxadebas gulisxmobT.<br />
mas da misnair subieqtebs<br />
araseriozulad vuyureb.<br />
yvelam icis, rom qardava<br />
`nac.moZraobis~ gagrZelebaa<br />
da meti araferi. rom<br />
ara ruseTis buad warmoCena,<br />
ra ideologiuri datvirTva<br />
unda mieca xelisuflebas<br />
Tavisi legitimurobisTvis?!<br />
amiT xelisufleba hqmnis<br />
socialur miTologias, roca<br />
am negatiuri kuTxiT Tavis<br />
arsebobas amarTlebs.<br />
ruseTis Tema es aris socialuri<br />
miTologiis sfero,<br />
romliTac sazrdoobs es xelisufleba.<br />
es maTi haeria,<br />
arsebobaa. aseTi satyuara<br />
sazogadoebaSi mudmivad iqneba<br />
Semogdebuli _ zogi<br />
akenkavs, zogi _ ara.<br />
_ ramdenime dRis win saakaSvilis<br />
gakeTebul gancxadebazec<br />
minda gkiTxoT. man<br />
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aSenebuli qveyana sxvas davutovo<br />
dasangrevado. ra axsna<br />
SeiZleba moeZebnos amas?<br />
_ piradad, saakaSvils<br />
seriozul politikur moRvawed<br />
ver aRviqvam. kargia,<br />
rom es kiTxva dasviT, am<br />
fraziT man mTlianad moicva<br />
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Sinaarsi. saqme isaa, rom mas<br />
es qveyana Tavis qarvasla<br />
hgonia _ visac unda dautovebs,<br />
visac unda _ ar dautovebs.<br />
igi ver iazrebs,<br />
rom xalxma moiyvana xelisuflebaSi<br />
da Tu ar gaamar-<br />
Tlebs, unda wavides. igi sazogadoebis<br />
winaSe angariSvaldebulebas<br />
ar grZnobs,<br />
aramed igi xelisuflebas,<br />
saxelmwifos, rogorc Tavis<br />
bebiis an babuis danatovars,<br />
ise aRiqvams, romelsac unda<br />
gadascems sxvas, unda _ ara.<br />
vimeoreb, misTvis saxelmwifo<br />
qarvaslaa. es ukve politikuri<br />
analizis ki ara, politikuri<br />
fsiqologiis sferoa.<br />
aqve, politikuri lideris<br />
sakiTxi dgas, Tu ra<br />
tipis lideri gvyavs? _ rogorc<br />
mogaxseneT, saakaSvili<br />
hermafroditi politikosia,<br />
romlis mmarTvelobis forma<br />
arcerT klasikur ganmartebaSi<br />
ar jdeba. Cven gvyavs<br />
hermafroditi xelisufleba,<br />
romelic arc kacia, arc qali,<br />
Sesabamisad, kacicaa da<br />
qalic, anu araferi ar aris.<br />
am frazaSi Zalian kargad<br />
warmoCinda saakaSvilis fsiqologiuri<br />
xedva xelisuflebaSi<br />
yofnasTan dakavSirebiT.<br />
_ am hermafroditi xelisuflebis<br />
pirobebSi, ramdenad<br />
sworia opoziciam guli<br />
aqciebze gamosuli xalxis<br />
simravliT moifxanos. Cven<br />
xom isic ki ar viciT, ramdeni<br />
amomrCeveli gvyavs. optimizmis<br />
safuZveli aris?<br />
_ miuxedavad rigi sakiTxebisadmi<br />
Cemi kritikuli<br />
damokidebulebisa, arCevnebisadmi<br />
pozitiuri ganwyoba<br />
maqvs. es ganpirobebulia<br />
imiT, rom aqciebze marTlac<br />
xalxis uprecedento raodenoba<br />
gamodis. es xelwamosakravi<br />
saqme araa da nuravis<br />
egoneba, rom am xalxis<br />
simravle xelisuflebas ar<br />
afrTxobs. ismis kiTxva _<br />
ratom gamodis xalxi gareT?<br />
_ imitom, rom is, rac<br />
erTi SexedviT saqarTvelo-<br />
Si Sendeba, mas ar exeba, misi<br />
tkivilis gamziarebeli<br />
ar aris. rac ar unda `Seratonebi~<br />
aSendes saqarTveloSi,<br />
es rigiT qarTvels<br />
arafers aZlevs. rasac xelisufleba<br />
akeTebs, es aRm-<br />
Senebloba ar aris, qveyana<br />
ase ar Sendeba. sastumroebi<br />
Sendeba, magram ara qveyana.<br />
amitom sazogadoebis didi<br />
nawili xedavs, rom es `aRm-<br />
Senebloba~, romelsac ZaliT<br />
gvaCeCeben, moCvenebiTia.<br />
_ saakaSvils wesiT saprezidento<br />
vada ewureba. ma-<br />
Sin riT axsniT mis aqtiur<br />
saarCevno kampanias?<br />
_ imitom, rom mas eSinia<br />
sazogadoebrivi samsjavrosi,<br />
man icis, rom adre Tu gvian<br />
es dro daudgeba. man aracnobierad<br />
icis, rom yvela<br />
danaSaulisTvis agebs pasuxs.<br />
Tamar SveliZe
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saerTo gazeTi<br />
9<br />
`koalicia qarTuli ocneba<br />
Tavs aaridebs civi omis<br />
ritorikas da ukeTesad moaxerxebs<br />
Cvens regionSi feTqebadsaSiSi<br />
situaciis realuri<br />
mizezebis ganeitralebas~.<br />
biZina ivaniSvili<br />
rusTavis meriis rekomendaciis<br />
miuxedavad, `ocnebis~ aqcia<br />
Sartavas ZeglTan gaimarTeba<br />
„qarTuli ocnebis“ warmomadgenlebma<br />
rusTavis meriis warmomadgenlebTan Sexvedra<br />
gamarTes, romelzec kidev erTxel daafiqsires,<br />
rom gadawyvetilebas ar cvlian<br />
da 19 agvistros aqcias Sartavas ZeglTan<br />
gamarTaven.<br />
aqciis organizatorebsa da rusTavis<br />
meriis warmomadgenlebs Soris dRes Sexvedra<br />
gaimarTa. rusTavis meriam maT rekomendaciis<br />
saxiT „megobrobis moedani“ Ses-<br />
Tavaza.<br />
rogorc meriis pressamsaxuris ufrosma<br />
nino korZaiam saubarSi ganacxada, meria<br />
mzad aris, 2 dRis ganmavlobaSi moedanze<br />
mimdinare sareabilitacio samuSaoebi da memorialis<br />
samSeneblo samuSaoebi SeaCeros<br />
da moedani aqciisTvis “qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
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rkinigzis nawilic. darCa<br />
mxolod saqarTvelos rkinigza<br />
da misi xelSi CagdebiT,<br />
ruseTi akontrolebs ara<br />
mxolod samxreT kavkasias,<br />
aramed kavkasias samxreTiT da<br />
dasavleTiT. am fonze, amotivtivda<br />
saqarTvelos rkinigzis<br />
gayidvis sakiTxi. Cven<br />
isic ki ar viciT Tu yidian,<br />
visze hyidian _ es winasaar-<br />
Cevnod bevr kiTxvis niSans<br />
aCens~. aSkaraa, rom rkinigzis<br />
ruseTze gadacemiT es magistrali<br />
srulad ruseTis iqneba.<br />
unda vivaraudoT, rom oqtombris<br />
arCevnebamde rkinigza<br />
rusebis xelSi iqneba. saakaSvilis<br />
epoqis periodSi ruseTma<br />
saqarTvelosgan araer-<br />
Ti sasicocxlod mniSvnelovani<br />
obieqtebi SeiZina da es<br />
procesi dRemde grZeldeba.<br />
maT siaSia: engurhesi, Jinvalhesi,<br />
lajanurhesi, `Tbilisis<br />
wyali~, `yaztransgazTbilisi~,<br />
xrami 1, xrami 2, xrami 3,<br />
xrami 4, xrami 5 da a.S. am<br />
fonze ki saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />
TiTs sxva opoziciuri<br />
partiebisken iSvers da<br />
maT ruseTumobaSi adanaSaulebs,<br />
Tumca 30-ze meti<br />
msxvili obieqti ruseTs swored<br />
amJamindelma xelisuflebam<br />
mihyida da ara ivaniSvilma<br />
an vinme sxvam. es xom igivea<br />
mgels cxvris fara miabaro...<br />
erTi wuTiT aseTi sura-<br />
Ti warmovidginoT _ vTqvaT,<br />
oqtombris arCevnebSi<br />
`nac.moZraobam~ ver gaimarjva,<br />
rac imas niSnavs, rom saakaSvili<br />
damarcxda. ase, aramarto<br />
am `nac.moZraobis~ arseboba<br />
dgeba kiTxvis niSnis qveS,<br />
aramed, `nac.moZraobis~ mier<br />
ruseTisTvis gadacemuli da<br />
miyiduli saqarTvelos uzarmazari<br />
qonebis sakiTxic engurhesidan<br />
dawyebuli madneulis<br />
oqros sabadoebiT dam-<br />
Tavrebuli. es xom naxevari<br />
saqarTveloa da es yvelaferi<br />
uceb SeiZleba eWvqveS dadges.<br />
Cndeba kiTxva _ dauSvebs ruseTi<br />
am qonebebis dakargvas?!<br />
gaixdis igi sayoymanod saqmes?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, ara. mas<br />
unda hqondes garantia, rom<br />
Tu saakaSvili wava, iseTi xelisufali<br />
mova, vinc maT am<br />
qonebebs SeunarCunebs. amis<br />
garantia ar arsebobs, amitomacaa,<br />
rom ruseTi, jerjerobiT<br />
saakaSvilis reJimis SenarCunebas<br />
cdilobs. SemTxveviTi<br />
ar unda iyos, rom merabiSvili,<br />
romelic ruseTis<br />
kacad moiazreba swored, axla<br />
arCevnebis win, putinis<br />
gancxadebamde cota xniT adre<br />
daawinaures premier-ministrad.<br />
mavani imazec saubrobs,<br />
rom es gadawyvetileba<br />
ruseTma miiRo. ruseTi seriozul<br />
gavlenas axdens Cvens<br />
politikur cxovrebaze da im<br />
gadawyvetilebebze, romelsac<br />
TiTqos saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />
iRebs.<br />
vin daiwyo omi?<br />
es yovlad demagogiuri,<br />
ritorikuli SekiTxvaa, romlis<br />
garkvevas Tu vin gaisrola<br />
pirvelad, mere meored,<br />
araviTari mniSvneloba ar<br />
aqvs. mamuka areSiZis<br />
TqmiT: `mTavari is ki ar aris,<br />
ruseTi risTvis emzadeboda,
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />
11<br />
aramed is, rom saqarTvelos mxarem icoda, Tu ras<br />
upirebda ruseTi mas~. mamuka areSiZe jer kidev 2008<br />
wlis ivlisSi saubrobda mosalodnel provokaciaze,<br />
Tumca miuxedavad amisa xelisufleba mainc im xafang-<br />
Si gaeba, romlis Sesaxeb man winaswar icoda.<br />
goga xaindrava: `sicrue, flidoba, didi farisevlobaa,<br />
4 weli imaze laparaki Tu vin daiwyo omi<br />
_ ruseTi SemoiWra Tu Cven SeviWeriT. mTavari isaa,<br />
rom Tu regionis gakontroleba gvindoda, rokis gvirabi<br />
unda gadagveketa. im etapze qarTul jars absoluturad<br />
Seswevda Zala rokis gvirabis gadaketvis. am<br />
saqmeSi mTavari damnaSave saakaSvilia _ igi xelmZRvanelobda<br />
am qaoss. saqmesac swored amitom ar iZieben,<br />
ician, rom yvela gza maTTan miva~. mTavari isicaa, rom<br />
omi 2008 wels ki ara aramed gacilebiT adre daiwyo.<br />
afxazeTTan da samxreT-oseTSic omi Cven daviwyeT, ruseTi<br />
Semdeg CaerTo. es daumTavrebeli omia. rogor<br />
daiwyo igi 2008-Si, aba, 2004 wels rom 15 adamiani<br />
Seewira, es ra iyo?! ubralod, 2008 wlis agvistoSi<br />
lokalurma dapirispirebam globaluri xasiaTi miiRo.<br />
qarTvelisTvis is ki ar aris mTavari vin daiwyo omi,<br />
aramed rogor moiqca saqarTvelos xelisufleba am<br />
omSi. ra gaakeTa man da ra Sedegi miiRo?! dRenaxevar-<br />
Si wagebulma omma, uamravi adamianis sicocxle Seiwira.<br />
faqtia, rom provokaciaze iyvnen wamogebuli imitom,<br />
rom yvelam icis gorSi droSebi, sursaT-sanovage<br />
rom hqondaT Catanili. es ambavi cxinvalis mosaxleobamac<br />
icoda, romelTac qalebi, bavSvebi gaxiznes.<br />
vis dauwyia sabrZolo moqmedeba Tavis teritoriaze?<br />
_ saqarTvelos. ra moxda amis Semdeg? _ rusuli sam-<br />
Svidobo jarebi daiRupnen. rusebs vin misca samSvidobo<br />
statusi? _ im russ xom Cven miveciT samSvidobos<br />
statusi da axla ratom gvaviwydeba es?! es niSnavs,<br />
rom mas xeli ar unda axlo. Cven ki zarbaznebi davumizneT<br />
da bunebrivia, man omi dagviwyo, sxva ramis molodini<br />
hqonda vinmes?! ra uZRoda win 2008 wlis<br />
oms?! _ amas win uZRoda is, rom e.w. samxreT-oseTSi<br />
arCevnebi Catarda. axalgori, romelsac aravin gvedaveboda<br />
miemata am sivces da am omis Sedegad samxreT<br />
oseTma Tavisi administraciuli sazRvrebi aRidgina.<br />
amas uZRoda isic, rom kodoris xeobidan saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebam is adamianebi gamoaZeva, vinc xeobas<br />
icavda, uiaraRod datova isini, kodoris xeobas zemoafxazeTi<br />
uwoda da rusebma, faqtobrivad uomrad daikaves<br />
es teritoria da Sedegad, dRes 25 aTasi adamiania<br />
ltolvili.es SemTxveviTia?!<br />
Tu vin daiwyo omi? _ amis gasarkvevad bevri taliavinis<br />
daskvnas iSveliebs, Tumca raSi gvWirdeba es<br />
yvelaferi roca es yvelaferi Cvens Tvalwin moxda.<br />
roca Cveni TvaliT vuyurebdiT, rogor bombavda qar-<br />
Tuli artileria cxinvals, amas televiziiT gadascemdnen.<br />
ratom egonaT, rom cxinvals ase advilad aiRebdnen?<br />
_ imitom, rom rogorc Cans rusebma moatyues,<br />
uTxres_ cxinvali ar gvainteresebs, Cven gaviweviT<br />
Tqven SediTo da rogorc Cans amaSi didi fuli gadaixades...<br />
dabolos kidev erTi faqtis Sesaxeb, rasac gonebaClungi<br />
sazogadoebis gasabriyveblad akeTeben _ xSirad<br />
gvesmis ruseTisgan, sanam saakaSvili xelisuflebis<br />
saTaveSia, mas ar davelaparakebiTo da xalxsac<br />
isini samkvdro-sasicocxlod gadakidebuli hgonia.<br />
arada sinamdvileSi, me Tu mkiTxavT, swored eg awyobT<br />
erT da meore mxaresac. es yvelaze metad ruseTs<br />
awyobs da saakaSvils. eseni erTmaneTs rom ar elaparakebian,<br />
mas Semdeg ar xdeba msoflio savaWro organizaciaSi<br />
ruseTis gawevrianebisTvis xmis micema, saqarTvelos<br />
mxridan savizo reJimis gauqmeba, mas Semdeg<br />
ar xdeba putinisa da medvedevis aRsarebebi?!<br />
Tamar SveliZe<br />
linkoln mitCeli<br />
oTxi wlis win saqarTvelos da<br />
ruseTs xanmokle, magram mniSvnelovani<br />
omi hqondaT. erTi kvirac ki ar<br />
iyo gasuli omis dawyebidan, rodesac<br />
saqarTvelo damarcxda, xolo<br />
ruseTma ganamtkica kontroli afxazeTsa<br />
da samxreT oseTze, teritoriebze,<br />
romelTac saxelmwifoTa<br />
umetesoba, maT Soris aSS-c, saqarTvelos<br />
kanonier nawilad miiCnevs,<br />
magram dRes ruseTis mieraa okupirebuli.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom omi sul<br />
erT kviras gagrZelda, mas dResac<br />
uaRresad didi mniSvneloba aqvs, rogorc<br />
saqarTvelos saSinao politikisTvis,<br />
aseve amerikul-qarTuli ur-<br />
TierTobebisTvis. dRes saqarTvelo<br />
saarCevno periods uaxlovdeba –<br />
2012 wels saparlamento, xolo<br />
2013 wels saprezidento arCevnebi<br />
unda Catardes. am arCevnebs eqneba<br />
uzarmazari mniSvneloba ara mxolod<br />
am qveynis momavlisaTvis, aramed isini<br />
mravali wliT gansazRvraven aSSs<br />
rols da pozicias regionSi. es<br />
arCevnebi, arsebiTad, 2008 wlis qar-<br />
Tul-rusuli omis CrdilqveS tardeba.<br />
omis Semdgom wlebSi saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobam dakarga Tavisi warsuli<br />
identoba. am warsuli identobis<br />
Tanaxmad, saqarTvelos saTaveSi<br />
edgnen TvalnaTeli demokratebi,<br />
romlebic cdilobdnen aeSenebinaT<br />
evropuli tipis demokratia im sivrcis<br />
SuagulSi, romelic odesRac<br />
sabWoTa kavSirs warmoadgenda. axla<br />
prezident mixeil saakaSvilis<br />
mTavroba kidev erTi naxevrad<br />
avtoritaruli reJimia,<br />
iseTi, romelic Zalauflebis<br />
SenarCunebisTvis Ser-<br />
CeviTad aRsrulebulsa da<br />
Seqmnil kanonebze, represirebul<br />
mediaze, politikuri<br />
oponentebis devnasa da daSinebazea<br />
damokidebuli.<br />
aseTi midgomebi aqamde<br />
kargad muSaobda erTiani nacionaluri<br />
moZraobis (enm),<br />
saqarTvelos mmarTveli partiis<br />
sasargeblod. ase iyo<br />
2008-2010 wlis arCevnebSi,<br />
magram wels gansxvavebuli<br />
viTarebaa. pirvelad enm-s mTavar<br />
oponents gaaCnia imis resursi, rom<br />
sapasuxo Setevaze gadavides. es yvelaferi<br />
biZina ivaniSvilis gamo xdeba,<br />
umdidresi qarTveli kacis gamo,<br />
romelzec amas winaT „niu-iork Taimsma“<br />
aseTi statia gamoaqveyna: „filantropobidan<br />
sajaro safrTxemde<br />
saqarTveloSi“. ivaniSvilma Seqmna<br />
koalicia da masSi gaaerTiana wamyvani<br />
qarTveli diplomatebi, „vardebis“<br />
yofili revolucionerebi, romlebmac<br />
saakaSvilTan imitom gawyvites<br />
kavSiri, rom is demokratias Camo-<br />
Sorda, da kidev sxvebic.<br />
saqarTvelos mTavroba didi xnis<br />
manZilze sargeblobda dasavleTis,<br />
gansakuTrebiT ki aSS-s mxardaWeriT.<br />
es mxardaWera gulisxmobda<br />
uxv ucxour fulad daxmarebasa<br />
da sesxebs da kidev nebas imisas,<br />
rom ar SeemCniaT bevri naklovaneba,<br />
romelic saqarTveloSi demokratiasa<br />
da adamianis uflebebs<br />
ukavSirdeba. es ukanaskneli momenti<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovania qarTuli<br />
reJimisTvis, radgan aSS-s Zlieri<br />
zewola, romelsac Semdeg Sesabamisi<br />
Sedegebi moyveboda, Zalian gaurTulebda<br />
enm-s kanonis darRvevasa<br />
da Zalauflebis borotad gamoyenebas,<br />
rac, maTi rwmeniT, aucilebelia<br />
Zalauflebis SesanarCuneblad,<br />
gansakuTrebiT maSin, rodesac<br />
arCevnebi axlovdeba.<br />
saqarTvelos liderebma ukve ician,<br />
rom dasavleTi informirebulia<br />
demokratiis deficitze saqarTvelo-<br />
Si, amitom maT Secvales strategia.<br />
axla isini naklebad cdiloben dasavleTs<br />
Tavi demokratebad moaCvenon<br />
da sakuTar reputacias ufro imaze<br />
ageben, rom regionSi ruseTis gavlenis<br />
winaaRmdeg aRmarTul bastions<br />
warmoadgenen. am midgomis farglebSi<br />
xorcieldeba is Zalisxmevac, romelic<br />
miliarder ivaniSvils imis gamo,<br />
rom man fuli ruseTSi iSova,<br />
ruseTis marionetad warmoCenas cdilobs.<br />
gasakviri ar aris, rom saqar-<br />
Tvelos mTavrobidan aravin Relavda<br />
ivaniSvilis qonebis warmomavlobaze<br />
da aravin eWvobda saqarTvelosadmi<br />
mis erTgulebaze maSin, rodesac is<br />
Tavis fuls qarTveli jariskacebis<br />
Ceqmebisa da aRWurvilobis SesaZenad,<br />
saqarTveloSi infrastruqturis<br />
mSeneblobisTvis an qveynis xazinis<br />
SevsebisTvisa da biujetis dasaxmareblad<br />
nebayoflobiT xarjavda. paradoqsulia,<br />
rom mTavrobam, romelmac<br />
evrokavSiris oficialuri angariSisa<br />
da analitikosTa umetesobis<br />
azriT, dauSva sakuTari Tavis provocireba<br />
da aseT damangrevel omSi<br />
CaTreva, axla vinme sxvas brals<br />
sdebs ruseTis gavlenis ganmtkicebis<br />
xelSewyobaSi.<br />
magram, zedapirze, saakaSvilis<br />
reputacia, rogorc Zlieri anti-rusuli<br />
Zalisa, Zalian mtkicea. saakaSvili<br />
mudmivad acxadebs, rom mas saqarTvelos<br />
natoSi gawevrianeba<br />
surs; saqarTvelos mTavrobis ritorika<br />
mudmivad Zalian anti-rusuli<br />
da pro-dasavluria; mTavrobam, sakmaod<br />
warmatebiT, wamoiwyo diplomatiuri<br />
kampania, raTa qveynebma, maT Soris<br />
aSS-mac, afxazeTi da samxreT<br />
oseTis regionebi, romlebic 2008<br />
wels man ruseTis sasargeblod dakarga,<br />
„okupirebul teritoriebad“<br />
moixsenion da yvela SesaZleblobas<br />
iyenebs imisTvis, rom dagmos ruseTis<br />
qmedebani. ufro metic, am ritorikis<br />
didi nawili savsebiT sworia. ruse-<br />
Ti marTlac warmoadgens saqarTvelosTvis<br />
seriozul, did safrTxes.<br />
afxazeTi da samxreT oseTi amJamad<br />
vin akeTebs realurad<br />
rusul saqmes TbilisSi?<br />
de faqto ruseTis koloniebia. ruse-<br />
Tis ambiciebi yofil sabWoTa kavSir-<br />
Si marTla seriozul yuradRebas<br />
moiTxovs.<br />
Sesabamisad, saakaSvilis ritorika,<br />
namdvilad anti-rusulia, magram<br />
Tu saqarTvelos mTavrobis mimarTebas<br />
ruseTTan ufro SedegebiT SevafasebT,<br />
vidre mxolod ritorikiT,<br />
zedapirze sruliad gansxvavebuli<br />
istoria amotivtivdeba. miuxedavad<br />
maTi ganzraxvebisa, saqarTvelos<br />
mTavrobis qmedebebma gamoiRo iseTi<br />
Sedegebi, romelic aSkarad Sedis<br />
ruseTis intersebSi. saakaSvili da<br />
misi mTavroba xelisuflebaSi 8 weliwadze<br />
metia arian da ruseTma<br />
qveynis teritoriis 20 procenti waiRo,<br />
viTareba, romelic Tvalsawier<br />
momavalSi ar Seicvleba da ramac saqarTvelos<br />
ltolva natosa da evrokavSirisken<br />
TiTqmis auxdenel ocnebad<br />
aqcia. gamoiara ra Zalian rTuli<br />
ekonomikuri periodebi, axla qveyana<br />
umuSevrobam, inflaciam da valebis<br />
problemam moicva da es viTareba momaval<br />
ramdenime weliwadSi kidev ufro<br />
seriozuli gaxdeba.<br />
saqarTvelos mTavroba ruseTisadmi<br />
SiSs basr politikur iaraRad<br />
iyenebs, TiTqmis yvela Sinaur oponents,<br />
iseve rogorc ucxoel kritikoss,<br />
ruseTis jaSuSobaSi, marionetobaSi<br />
da sxva amgvarSi sdebs<br />
brals. pro-dasavlel politikosebsac<br />
ki, iseTebs, romelTac Zlieri<br />
kavSirebi aqvT aSS-sTan da evropas-<br />
Tan, amgvarad esxmis Tavs. saqarTvelo<br />
iseTi qveyanaa, sadac rusul<br />
SeTqmulebaze laparaki Cveuli ramaa,<br />
magram sainteresoa, rogori SeiZleba<br />
yofiliyo rusuli SeTqmuleba saqarTveloSi.<br />
warmoidgineT 2003 wlis bolos,<br />
ruseTis mTavrobas imis SesaZlebloba<br />
rom hqonoda, gamoegzavna vinme,<br />
vinc saqarTvelos prezidentis Tanamdebobas<br />
daikavebda da amave dros, farulad<br />
ruseTis interesebs ganaxorcielebda.<br />
es, ra Tqma unda, ar momxdara,<br />
magaram rom momxdariyo, patronebi<br />
kremlidan prezidents saqar-<br />
Tvelos teritoriebis ruseTis sasargeblod<br />
dakargvas daavalebdnen,<br />
raTa zustad scodnodaT, rom saqar-<br />
Tvelo ver Seva natoSi, saqarTvelos<br />
ekonomika susti<br />
iqneboda, xolo qveyanaSi<br />
polarizacias SenarCundeboda.<br />
am prezidents imasac<br />
mosTxovdnen, rom regionSi<br />
amerikisadmi ndoba Seesustebina,<br />
xolo aSS-s rac SeiZleba<br />
bevri fuli daexarja<br />
saqarTveloSi. saakaSvili,<br />
ra Tqma unda, ar aris<br />
saidumlo rusuli gegmis<br />
monawile, magram yvelaferi<br />
es saqarTveloSi misi prezidentobis<br />
dros moxda.<br />
sxva dros, rodesac saakaSvili<br />
dasavleTs ganucxadebs,<br />
rom ruseTi misi mosisxle<br />
mteria, gonivruli iqneboda dasavlel<br />
politikosebs ekiTxaT – Tu<br />
ruseTs saakaSvilis msgavsi mtrebi<br />
hyavs, maSin raRaSi sWirdeba mas megobrebi?<br />
magram Tu ufro seriozulad<br />
vilaparakebT, aSS ar unda dasjerdes<br />
martooden qarTuli mTavrobis<br />
anti-rusul ritorikas da seriozulad<br />
dafiqrdes imaze, Tu ra moigo<br />
ruseTma saakaSvilis mmarTvelobis<br />
periodSi da imaze, ras moigebs<br />
aSS saqarTvelosadmi, mmarTveli re-<br />
Jimisadmi, samarTliani arCevnebisa da<br />
demokratiisadmi gansxvavebuli midgomis<br />
SemTxvevaSi.<br />
moamzada xaTuna Toduam
12 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
saeklesio wreebSi didi miTqma-moTqma:<br />
patriarqi 15 seqtembramde unda<br />
gadaayenon an TviTon unda gadadgeso<br />
beri gabrieli da mama nikolozi<br />
meufe ilarioni<br />
mama giorgi (basilaZe)<br />
mama leonti (Jvania)<br />
`saerTo gazeTis~<br />
saSualebiT,<br />
meufe ilarion<br />
samxaraZesTan dakavSirebiT<br />
gamoqveynebuli<br />
informaciis<br />
gaxmaurebas,<br />
unda iTqvas,<br />
rom didi aJiota-<br />
Ji mohyva. mas Semdeg,<br />
rac es werilebi<br />
gamoqveynda,<br />
TiTqmis weliwadi<br />
gavida, magram<br />
dRemde mikavSirdebian<br />
dainteresebuli<br />
pirebi,<br />
zogi meufis daxmarebis<br />
surviliT, zogi<br />
_ informaciis sizustis<br />
dasamtkiceblad, zogi<br />
sxvadasxva mosazrebiT;<br />
zogi interesdeba, saidan<br />
movipove es informacia<br />
da rogor gavige meufis<br />
Sesaxeb. ar vici, vis ratom<br />
`awuxebs~ am informaciis<br />
arseboba saer-<br />
Tod, Tanac Jurnalists<br />
aqvs informaciis konfidencialobis<br />
ufleba. visac<br />
ar unda moeca CemTvis<br />
cnobebi meufis Sesaxeb,<br />
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ar icoda, sad iyo<br />
da rogor iyo moxuci<br />
meufe, axla xom gaiges,<br />
axla ratom ar cdiloben<br />
gamoiyvanon gamoRruebul<br />
ficrebiani da Catexilsaxuraviani<br />
fardulidan,<br />
sadac mwevarsac ar<br />
daabams gulSematkivari<br />
patroni. imaze midis laparaki,<br />
saidan vici me amis<br />
Sesaxeb da vin miTxra es ambavi.<br />
iuTubize SemiZlia mivuTiTo<br />
videosiuJeti, sadac<br />
meufes stumroben Jurnalistebi<br />
Cemamde gacilebiT<br />
adre, Semdeg ki kaspelma<br />
megobarma mimaswavla meufis<br />
adgilsamyofeli.<br />
Cemi werilebis seria,<br />
ZiriTadad, Tavisi fotomasaliTurT<br />
internetiT aris<br />
moZiebuli da visac Cemi masalebis<br />
gadamowmeba surs,<br />
SebrZandes internetSi,<br />
sul ramdenime `fanjris~<br />
gaxsnaa saWiro amis xelaxla<br />
wasakiTxad.<br />
axlaxan saocari ambavi<br />
Sevityve. sapatriarqoSi Cumi<br />
miTqma-moTqma midis Turme,<br />
patriarqi 15 seqtembramde<br />
unda gadaayenon an<br />
TviTon gadadges Tavisi nebiT.<br />
mis adgilze quTaTelgaenaTel<br />
meufe kalistrates<br />
an dasavleT evropis<br />
mitropolit abram garmelias<br />
varaudobeno. nacionalebi<br />
meufe kalistrates<br />
kandidaturas uWeren Turme<br />
mxars, sapatriarqo ki mitropolitis<br />
mxares yofila.<br />
sinodi ar airCevs meufe kalistrates,<br />
radgan yvelam<br />
icis misi somxuri warmo-<br />
Sobis Sesaxebo, miTxra Cemma<br />
Tanamosaubrem.<br />
guldasawyveti da SemaSfoTebeli,<br />
Cvenda savalalod<br />
da saubedurod, saZirkvelSeryeul<br />
qarTul eklesiaSi<br />
Seqmnili viTarebaa<br />
da kidev is, rom sapatriarqo<br />
taxtze patriarqis sicocxleSive<br />
midis ciloba<br />
da gawev-gamoweva. CvenTvis,<br />
ubralo mokvdavTaTvis,<br />
cxadia, saidumlod rCeba<br />
patriarqis anderZi `memkvidris~<br />
Sesaxeb, magram mavanTa<br />
maxvil Tvals ra gamoepareba?<br />
sapatriarqoSi<br />
(da vinZlo xelisufleba-<br />
Sic) zogierTma albaT,<br />
icis, ra weria anderZSi,<br />
magram wesis ugulebelyofiT<br />
mainc cdiloben sasurvel<br />
kandidats gaumzadon<br />
sapatriarqo taxti.<br />
saqarTvelos eklesia da<br />
marTlmadidebluri sarwmunoeba<br />
dRes safrTxis wina-<br />
Se rom aris, amas ar unda<br />
Cemi mtkiceba, magram saqar-<br />
Tvelos eklesias imdeni<br />
wmindani hyavs, etyoba, maTi<br />
locva gvifaravs. marto beri<br />
gabrielis madli gveyofa.<br />
gabriel bers RvTivkur-<br />
Txeuli da mravaltanjuli<br />
saqarTvelo rom uyvarda,<br />
es yvelam icis da gardacvalebamde,<br />
sulis amosvlis<br />
locvebs rom ukiTxavda<br />
Turme meufe danieli, ukve<br />
micvalebul bers Tvali gauxelia<br />
da uTqvams: xalxo,<br />
qarTvelebo, locva iswavleTo...<br />
dRes qristianul samyaroSi<br />
sul 6 mlocveli<br />
aRavlens mdumare locvebs.<br />
maT Soris ori qarTvelia<br />
_ meufe ilarioni da mama<br />
nikolozi, romelic gabriel<br />
beris mowafea. meufe<br />
ilarioni 12 weliwadi iyo<br />
mdumarebaSi (me-6 welia<br />
sdums mama nikolozi) da am<br />
adamians zurgs aqcevs qar-<br />
Tuli eklesia. vin metyvis,<br />
rom ar vwero da araferi<br />
vTqva amis Sesaxeb. vin metyvis,<br />
rom ar unda gavagebinoT<br />
saqarTvelos da mTel<br />
qveynierebas, roca saqarTvelosTvis<br />
am sabediswero<br />
Jams qveyanaSi gvyavs udidesi<br />
mlocvelebi da cocxali<br />
wmindanebi _ meufe ilarioni,<br />
mama nikolozi, mama giorgi,<br />
mama leonti?...<br />
sabednierod, dResdReobiT,<br />
arseboben adamianebi,<br />
romlebsac keTilSobiluri<br />
zraxvebi amoZravebT da dainteresebulni<br />
arian saqar-<br />
Tvelos eklesiisa da meufe<br />
ilarionis sve-bediT. amas<br />
winaT erTi friad keTil-<br />
Sobili kaci, batoni oTar<br />
kaxiZe damikavSirda da meufe<br />
ilarionisa da saqarTvelos<br />
sapatriarqos Serigeba-daaxloebis<br />
saqmeSi monawileoba<br />
mTxova.<br />
jerjerobiT saqme mxolod<br />
ideis donezea,<br />
magram imis Sesaxeb,<br />
razec batoni oTari<br />
mesaubra, danaSaulad<br />
miviCnie, TqvenTvis ar<br />
momeTxro, pativcemulo<br />
mkiTxvelo. gTavazobT<br />
batoni oTar<br />
kaxiZis saubris Canawers:<br />
_ batono oTar,<br />
sarwmunoebaSi friad<br />
ganswavluli da eklesiasTan<br />
daaxloebuli<br />
kaci CanxarT. qarTul<br />
politikaSi rac xdeba,<br />
adevnebT Tval-yurs?<br />
_ unda giTxraT, rom me<br />
var ivaniSvilis mxares.<br />
ufalma, etyoba, gvapatia<br />
codvebi da gamogviCina es<br />
adamiani. sxvaTa Soris, mixeil<br />
saakaSvilic RmerTma<br />
gamogvigzavna dasasjelad,<br />
Cveni codvebisTvis.<br />
ra doneze unda iyos<br />
dRes qarTveli kaci, ivaniSvilze<br />
ena augad rom moubrundes.<br />
axla zogierTi<br />
oTar kaxiZe<br />
imasac ambobs _ ivaniSvili<br />
morwmune da RvTis moSiSi<br />
kaci ar ariso _ kaci-wmindani<br />
movida Cvens gadasar-<br />
Cenad da amis laparaki SeiZleba?<br />
am adamians imdeni<br />
rame aqvs gakeTebuli, 536<br />
eklesias uSvela, giga<br />
lorTqifaniZis da givi berikaSvilis<br />
werilebi rom<br />
waikiTxo, cremli mogadgeba<br />
Tvalze, iseTi madlierebi<br />
arian. imden gaWirvebuls<br />
daexmara, ukve madli aqvs<br />
moxveWili RmerTis winaSe.<br />
biZina ivaniSvili aris movlena<br />
Cvens daCagrul erSi.<br />
_ Tqven cocxal qarTvel<br />
wmindanebTan xSiri ur-<br />
TierToba gaqvT _ rogor<br />
uyureben ivaniSvilis gamo-<br />
Cenas da ras uwinaswarmetyveleben<br />
saqarTvelos momavalSi?<br />
_ ar minda xolme amaze<br />
laparaki, magram mainc vityvi:<br />
Tqva, ivaniSvils safr-<br />
Txe emuqrebao. es rom miTxra,<br />
lamis iyo gavgiJebuliyavi,<br />
fexze wamodgoma davapire,<br />
rom xelze xeli momkida,<br />
gamiRima da miTxra:<br />
kargi, damSviddi, yvelaferi<br />
kargad Caivlis da rac Cafiqrebuli<br />
aqvs baton biZinas,<br />
yvelaferi ise iqnebao.<br />
_ vin giTxraT es?<br />
_ amas winaT alaverdSi<br />
rac moxda patriarqsa da<br />
saakaSvils Soris, amaze gadacema<br />
hqonda eka beriZes.<br />
uTxres _ wyaro dagvisaxele,<br />
saidanac gaige es ambavio.<br />
wyaros rogor dausaxelebda,<br />
xom gaaqrobdnen<br />
maSinve im adamians. saakaSvili<br />
miwidan amoTxrida magis<br />
mTqmels.<br />
ratom dauyadaRes kala-<br />
Zes qoneba, iciT? gaxsovT<br />
saakaSvilis fotoebi rom<br />
gavrcelda, milanSi maRaziebSi<br />
rom dadis da saaTebs<br />
aTvalierebs? miSa am faqtebis<br />
gamomzeurebas kaxi<br />
kalaZes abralebs. kalaZe<br />
Tbiliss ar gascilebia,<br />
magram naxevari milani misi<br />
Tayvanismcemelia.
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
13<br />
cocxal wmindanebze rom vlaparakobdiT,<br />
maT Soris mama giorgi basilaZe<br />
gamorCeulia. amas winaT Cemi biWi waviyvane<br />
masTan. Zalian vwuxvar, magram Cemi<br />
Svili nacionalebTan megobrobs. iseTi<br />
rameebi uTxra mama giorgim _ mec da<br />
TviTonac gavocdiT. maSin vuTxari Cems<br />
vaJs _ xedav, Svilo, eWvi xom ar gepareba,<br />
rom me mama giorgis Senze raimes<br />
vetyodi-meTqi?<br />
_ gabrazebs xom, oTar, Seni biWio? _<br />
mkiTxa. ar SeiZleba, Svilo, amis gakeTeba-meTqi,<br />
veubnebi... magram...<br />
_ saakaSvilze ras amboben RvTismorwmune<br />
mamebi?<br />
_ mama giorgi basilaZes Sexvedrixar?<br />
_ ki.<br />
_ xom ici, rom xSirad wevs? ici, ra<br />
miTxra erTxel? _ oTar, imitom ki ar<br />
vwevar, rom avad var, imis danaxva mtanjavs,<br />
rasac vuyureb _ amas ras vxedavo,<br />
_ miTxra saakaSvilze da amoioxra.<br />
araa advili saakaSvilis pirispir<br />
brZola. amitom erTxel sozar subars,<br />
romelTanac vmegobrob, vuTxari kidec _<br />
iqneba wamoiyvano batoni biZina mama akakisTan<br />
(meliqiZe _ i.k.), kveTebulis<br />
locvebi Cautaros-meTqi.<br />
RmerTs unda miendos batoni biZina.<br />
RmerTs unda mivendoT Cvenc, radgan<br />
ufalma gviTxra: me Sevqmeni TqvenTvis<br />
yvelaferi miwis zeviT, casa da qvesknelSi,<br />
imitom, rom gamoiyeno yvelaferi<br />
es sikeTeSi. Cven daviviwyeT RmerTis<br />
sityvebi, daviviwyeT sikeTis qmna da siyvaruli,<br />
avcdiT uflis gzas da Tu<br />
RvTis xmas yurs ar mivugdebT, Cveni gakeTebuli<br />
saqmeebi madls dakargavs da<br />
winaaRmdegobebic ufro meti gveqneba.<br />
_ arCevnebis periodSi ra SeiZleba<br />
moxdeso, ras amboben cocxali wmindanebi?<br />
_ saqme raSia, iciT, Cemo iranda? erT<br />
rames mogiyvebiT: garkveuli xnis win meufe<br />
ilarioni (samxaraZe _ i.k.) movinaxule.<br />
bevri vilaparakeT da wamosvlisas<br />
aseTi ram miTxra: inglisi da amerika er-<br />
TmaneTs mwared gadaekidebiano. maSin gamikvirda<br />
es ambavi, magram gavida dro da<br />
inglissa da amerikas Soris dapirispireba<br />
daiwyo. im xanebSi isev vestumre meufes<br />
da vkiTxe, Tu ratom miTxra inglissa<br />
da amerikas Soris daZabulobis Sesaxeb.<br />
warmoidgineT, rom meufem detalurad<br />
damixasiaTa kapitalizmis arsi da<br />
qveynebs Soris winaaRmdegobis safuZveli<br />
ise, rom nebismier eqsperts SeSurdeboda<br />
misi msjeloba. es, cxadia, RvTisgan<br />
aris da isic gangebisgan iqneba, arCevnebis<br />
periodSi rac moxdeba.<br />
xSirad vesaubrebi am udides adamianebs<br />
saqarTveloSi mosalodnel ambebze.<br />
isini oqtomberSi ganviTarebul movlenebze<br />
saubrisgan Tavs ikaveben, magram,<br />
zemoTac giTxariT, winaaRmdegobis miuxedavad<br />
yvelaferi kargad iqneba.<br />
iranda<br />
kalandaZe<br />
Sevaxseneb kacitaZis komisias:<br />
saqarTveloSi bavSvebi<br />
amomrCevlebi ar arian<br />
vesaubrebiT `mwvaneTa partiis~<br />
liders, baton gia gaCeCilaZes.<br />
_ batono gia, qveyanaSi uamravi<br />
kvleva Catarda winasaarCevnod, Sedegebi<br />
sainteresoa. Seiqmna `siebis<br />
dazustebis komisiac~ _ romelmac<br />
Tveebis manZilze imuSava da aRmoa-<br />
Cina rom saqarTveloSi amomrCevel-<br />
Ta raodenoba gazrdilia. rac garkveulwilad<br />
eWvs badebs imitom, rom<br />
qveyanaSi mdgomareoba ar gaumjobesebula<br />
da arc ucxoeTSi wasuli<br />
moqalaqeebi ar dabrunebulan.<br />
_ mosaxleoba dabrunda ki ara,<br />
TandaTan ufro vrwmundebiT imaSi,<br />
rom Cveni qveyana saxelmwifo ki<br />
aRar aris, darCa mxolod saxeli da<br />
Tu oqtomberSi cvlilebebi ar moxdeba,<br />
Zalian cudi dRe gvelis. `nacionalebis~<br />
mTavari mizani is gaxlavT,<br />
rom qarTvelebi aqedan ayaron<br />
da ucxoelebi daepatronon Cvens miwas.<br />
kacitaZis gancxadebiT, saqarTveloSi<br />
3.621.00 amomrCeveli yofila.<br />
2010 wlis monacemebiT Tu vimsjelebT,<br />
maSin iyo 3.580.000. realuri<br />
daTvliT es cifri aris 2.380.000.<br />
Tbilisis garda sxva qalaqebs<br />
Tu aviRebT, monacemebi aseTia: ba-<br />
TumSi cxovrobs 125 800 adamiania<br />
kacitaZis monacemebiT ki am qalaqSi<br />
131.756 amomrCevelia, anu ufro<br />
meti, vidre cxovrobs! amas aslan<br />
abaSiZec ki ar akeTebda Tavis<br />
droze, miuxedavad imisa, rom specialurad<br />
zrdida mosaxleobis<br />
raodenobas. es gaxlavT TvalSi<br />
nacris Seyra. kvlav gavagrZeleb,<br />
2010 wlis monacemebiT, TbilisSi<br />
iyo 995.000 amomrCeveli. dazustebis<br />
komisiis monacemebiT dRes<br />
1.027 000 amomrCevelia! 5 milionamde<br />
raodenoba rom viTvlebodiT<br />
mosaxleoba, maSin ar iyo amdeni<br />
amomrCeveli. Cven daTvlili<br />
gvyavs _ realurad, TbilisSi<br />
aris 780.000 _ amomrCeveli! qu-<br />
TaisSi _ 110.000 ruseTSi<br />
80.000, baTumSi 86.000, foTSi<br />
29.000 amomrCevelia. amaT ki uweriaT<br />
42.000 kaci. es xom sisulelea<br />
da meti araferi! rogor SeiZleba,<br />
rom foTSi cxovrobdes 47.000 kaci<br />
da aqedan 42.000 iyos amomrCeveli,<br />
anu 18 wlis zemoT. bavSvebi iq<br />
ar arian? bavSvebi gaqrnen saqarTveloSi?<br />
yvelafers sazRvari xom<br />
aqvs? vis atyueben? es aris dazustebis<br />
komisia? es marto sircxvili<br />
ki ar aris, es danaSaulia! yvelam<br />
kargad icis, rom nebismier evropul<br />
qveyanaSi mosaxleobis ori mesamedi<br />
aris amomrCeveli, erTi mesamedi ki<br />
bavSvebi arian. Tu Tbilisi milioniani<br />
qalaqia, aq xom 300 000 bavSvi<br />
unda iyos daaxloebiT? kidev vimeoreb,<br />
nebismier qveyanaSi 25-27 procenti<br />
mosaxleobisa arian arasruwlovanebi,<br />
es marto CvenTan ar yofila<br />
ase!<br />
_ batono gia, karga xania arCevnebSi<br />
monawileobis realuri Sansi<br />
ar gqoniaT, oqtomberSi ki Tqven miiRebT<br />
monawileobas. parlamentSi<br />
petre mamraZis saxiT gyavT warmodgenili,<br />
isic cnobilia, rom<br />
`qarTuli ocnebis~ koaliciis<br />
mxardamWeri iqnebiT, rogor<br />
apirebT muSaobis gagrZelebas?<br />
_ `qarTuli ocnebis~ partniorebi<br />
varT da viqnebiT<br />
maT gverdiT, Tu ra formiT,<br />
an rogor models avirCevT, es<br />
jer ar gadagviwyvetia, jer<br />
kidev gvaqvs dro, rom CamovyalibdeT.<br />
_ rogor fiqrobT, `nacionalebi~<br />
kidev xom ar moawyoben<br />
provokaciebs imisaTvis,<br />
rom arCevnebi an CaSalon an<br />
ruseTTan urTierToba daZabon,<br />
seqtemberSi xom rusebis<br />
wvrTnebi iwyeba `kavkasia 2012~, Tanac,<br />
es wvrTnebi seqtembris TveSia,<br />
xom ar riskaven isinic?<br />
_ rusebs es wvrTnebi unda CaetarebinaT,<br />
wesiT, ivlisSi, gadmoitanes<br />
17-23 seqtembers, Cveni arCevnebi<br />
dainiSna 1 oqtombers. vfiqrob,<br />
saakaSvili kvlav amzadebs morig<br />
provokacias, romelsac SemdgomSi<br />
opozicias daabralebs. ityvis, rom<br />
opoziciam Semoiyvana aq jarebi, sinamdvileSi<br />
ki mas Tavad surs maTi<br />
aq Semoyvana, arCevnebis win, CaSlis<br />
mizniT. Tavadac yvela xedavs, rogori<br />
agresiuli xdeba, roca opoziciis<br />
liderebze da gansakuTrebiT ki<br />
biZina ivaniSvilze saubrobs.<br />
cxadia, rom `NDI~ da sxvaTa gamokiTxvis<br />
reitingebi ararealuria.<br />
Tu isini acxadeben, rom biZina ivaniSvils<br />
mosaxleobis 25 procenti<br />
uWers mxars, danarCeni ocdaxuTi<br />
procenti ki ar ambobs vis miscems.<br />
es imas niSnavs, rom isini Riad ar<br />
acxadeben, magram realurad misi<br />
mxardamWerebi arian. dRes xalxi da-<br />
Sinebulia. ityvis yvela simarTles?<br />
cxadia ara! `nacionalebis~ mxardam-<br />
Werni rom iyvnen, vinme uSliT, siamayiT<br />
ityodnen maT vaZlevT xmaso.<br />
anda `qristian-demokratebis~ mxardamWerebi<br />
rom iyvnen. xom xedavT,<br />
rogor dadian Tavisuflad, televiziis<br />
TanxlebiT da saarCevno kampanias<br />
ewevian, qeifebs awyoben Riad,<br />
saakaSvili maT ver xedavs? egeni<br />
arian opozicionerebi? maT vinme ebrZvis<br />
an ekamaTeba? isic minda SegaxsenoT,<br />
rom kvlevebiT dadasturda,<br />
rom mosaxleobis sul nawils 65<br />
procenti, visac aqvs `real-tivis~<br />
arxi, maT ar uyurebs. es ras niSnavs?<br />
imas, rom es arxi biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
lanZRva-ginebiT aris dakavebuli.<br />
es 65 procenti `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ mxardamWeria da imitom.<br />
mokled rom giTxraT, dRes mosaxleoba<br />
Riad simarTles ar ambobs,<br />
amitom am kvlevebze dayrdnoba SeuZlebelia.<br />
_ Tqvens partias Tu aqvs saar-<br />
Cevno doqtrina SemuSavuebuli, iqneb<br />
gviTxraT oriode sityviT is,<br />
ris gakeTebas SeZlebT xelisuflebaSi<br />
mosvlis SemTxvevaSi?<br />
_ Cveni partiis saarCevno nomeri<br />
aris 39, ra formiT SevalT koaliciaSi,<br />
amas CamovayalibebT, ar-<br />
CevnebSi mosaxleoba unda gaaqtiurdes.<br />
darwmunebuli var, Tu saarCevno<br />
ubnebTan iqneba rigebi, iq<br />
`karuselebis~ ganxocielebas ver<br />
SeZleben. erTaderTi Sansia is,<br />
rom yvela mivideT arCevnebze da<br />
sasurvel kandidats mivceT xma.<br />
rac Seexeba `mwvaneTa partias~,<br />
Cveni mTavari programaa SevqmnaT<br />
`ekologiurad sufTa qveyana~ _<br />
is, riskenac miiswrafvis mTeli<br />
civilizebuli samyaro, evropa.<br />
Cven am inteleqtualur samyaros<br />
nawili unda gavxdeT.<br />
dRes bevri partia saubrobs<br />
energetikaze, es sakiTxi pirvelad<br />
Cven davayeneT. gvsurs SevqmnaT saqarTveloSi<br />
alternatiuli energetikuli<br />
wyaroebi da dazogviTi<br />
teqnologiebi, romelic TiToeul<br />
ojaxSi eleqtroenergiis xarjs Seamcirebs<br />
10 jer! am programis mixedviT,<br />
mosaxleobas gadasaxadi eqneba<br />
mizeruli TanxiT. teqnologiebiT<br />
SesaZlebelia gazis xarjebis<br />
ganaxevreba, ris saSualebasac mogvcems<br />
dazogviTi teqnologiebi. gana<br />
es cotaa? Cvenma xalxma arc ki<br />
icis, rom es procesebi msoflioSi<br />
ukve daiwyo, `nacionalebi~ ki mxolod<br />
gadasaxadebis gazrdiT arian<br />
dakavebulni da isedac SeWirvebuli<br />
xalxi ufro gaubedurda, ratom ar<br />
unda gvqondes Cven dioduri naTurebi,<br />
romelic 12-jer nakleb dens<br />
xarjavs? mosaxleobam amis Taobaze<br />
arc ki icis. amitom Cveni valia, es<br />
yvelaferi xalxs gavacnoT, avuxsnaT<br />
da yvelasTvis xelmisawvdomi iyos<br />
msoflioSi arsebuli yvela is sike-<br />
Te, rac SegviZlia rom gvqondes. es<br />
iqneba `ekologiurad sufTa qveyana~,<br />
rac aris kidec civilizebuli samyaros<br />
naTeli momavali.<br />
eTer kasreliSvili
14 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
12 weli, viTarca erTi dRe...<br />
Zvirfaso Tanamemamuleno!<br />
SeinaxeT `marTali gazeTis~<br />
es nomeri, SeinaxeT da waikiTxeT<br />
5-6 wlis Semdeg Tu xelisuflebis<br />
saTaveSi is politikuri Zalebi<br />
movlen, romlebic `rusTavi-2-<br />
is~ ukan dganan, dRevandeli dRe<br />
sanatreli gagixdebaT! _ es `mar-<br />
Tali gazeTis~ qudia #53<br />
(75) 1.11 _ 4.11 2001 wels.<br />
faqtia, ar iRo yurad saqar-<br />
Tvelom `marTali gazeTis~ mimarTva-gafrTxileba<br />
2001 wels,<br />
movidnen xelisuflebaSi is politikuri<br />
Zalebi, romlebic<br />
`rusTavi-2-is~ ukan idgnen da<br />
dResac dganan (ris ukan ar dganan,<br />
sakiTxavi isaa).<br />
gTavazobT intervius `mar-<br />
Tali gazeTis~, dRes ki, `saer-<br />
To gazeTis~ redaqtor baton<br />
vaxtang xarCilavasTan.<br />
_ maia, kargad ici, `marTali<br />
gazeTi~ 2000-2003 wlebSi gamodioda,<br />
sul raRac sami-oTxi<br />
weli, magram rom gadaxedo, TariRi<br />
Seucvalo, daawero, davuSvaT,<br />
2011 weli da datovo<br />
igive masalebi, gegoneba, igive<br />
droa. imdenad ucvleli darCa<br />
is problemebi, razec Cven vwuxdiT,<br />
imdenad isev iseTi saganga-<br />
So situaciaa, mTlad gayinuli<br />
gonebis rom iyos kaci, mainc<br />
mixvdeba, rom saqarTveloSi araferi<br />
Secvlila qveynis sasike-<br />
Tod.<br />
_ da arc saxeebi...<br />
_ geTanxmebi, arc saxeebi _<br />
ramdenimes gamoklebiT, ramdenimes<br />
mimatebiT igive adamianebi<br />
trialeben rogorc politikur<br />
orbitaze, aseve masmediaSi da<br />
calkeul struqturebSi. gansxvaveba<br />
mxolod imaSi aris zogjer,<br />
rom Tu mavani Jurnalisti<br />
an politikosi wlebis win saakaSvilis<br />
qeba-didebas aRavlenda,<br />
axla TiTs uqnevs saakaSvils,<br />
Tumca igiveni arian Sinaganad,<br />
mxolod amplua Seicvales.<br />
_ anu cvlileba, rasac gvpirdebodnen,<br />
arc am mxriv momxdara.<br />
_ diax, adamianebi an adamian-<br />
Ta jgufebi gadanawildnen erTmaneTSi<br />
da poziciebi `Seicvales~,<br />
Torem, rasac hqvia cvlileba<br />
sazogadoebriv an qveynis<br />
politikur cxovrebaSi, es ar<br />
momxdara. TiTqos Caketili<br />
wrea, privatizebuli sivrecea,<br />
sadac ucxos, garedan mosuls<br />
ar uSveben.<br />
qarTul televiziebs rom<br />
daakvirdeT, ar aqvs mniSvneloba,<br />
e.w `nacionaluri arxebi~ iqneba<br />
Tu e.w opoziciuri, erTi<br />
da igive adamianebi trialeben,<br />
iSviaTad Tu gakrTeba axali saxe.<br />
es imas niSnavs, rom es sivrce<br />
ara mxolod privatizebulia,<br />
ufro metic, am sivrces vi-<br />
Rac gankargavs. is uCinari, garda<br />
imisa, rom reJisorobs am<br />
sivrces, situaciasac akontrolebs,<br />
rom ar moxdes vinme<br />
ucxos SemoWra am sivrceSi, romelic<br />
disonanss Seitans dalagebul<br />
`sistema-ojaxSi~.<br />
Cemi azriT, reJisori ar unda<br />
iyos viRac Cveneburi – ai,<br />
amazea saubari im Cvens `marTal<br />
gazeTSi~. 12 wlis winaT Cven<br />
mTeli xmiT gavyvirodiT, rom es<br />
aris ucxo Zalebis mier marTuli,<br />
Tavisi mrwamsiTa da Tavisi<br />
suliskveTebiT antiqarTuli Zala,<br />
romelic daangrevs saqarTveloso,<br />
magram vin gvijerebda<br />
Cven, Cemo maia? dajerebas vin<br />
Civis, gaxsovs, rogor agresiulad<br />
gveqceodnen, rogor bedavT<br />
Cvens sayvarel axalgazrda liderebze<br />
raRacebis weraso. isic<br />
gemaxsovreba, dro rom gavida,<br />
adamianebi bodiSs gvixdidnen _<br />
ar gvegona, aseTebi Tu iyvnen,<br />
SegveSalao...<br />
saqarTveloSi samoqalaqo<br />
sazogadoeba ar arsebobso, vambobT,<br />
_ saidan iarsebebs es sazogadoeba,<br />
roca oci wlis ganmavlobaSi,<br />
1992 wlidan, yvelaferi<br />
keTdeba imisTvis, rom samoqalaqo<br />
sazogadoeba ar Camoyalibdes.<br />
XXI saukunea da qvebs isvrian.<br />
es viTom patara detalia,<br />
magram patara ki ara, Zalian didi<br />
detalia, imitom, rom, amaSi<br />
Cans, rogor Cagvemsxvra SigniT<br />
is xerxemali, razec dgas eri,<br />
Cveni warsuli, Tundac Cveni<br />
qcevis normebi rogor daviviwyeT,<br />
roca Cven qvebs vesvriT<br />
erTmaneTs imis gamo, rom zogs<br />
griSa mowons da zogs _ miSa.<br />
ki, magram mxolod griSa da mi-<br />
Saa saqarTvelo? TviT es qveyana<br />
Seni ar aris da sakuTar Tav-<br />
Si ar gaerTianebT Senc, im miSasac<br />
da griSasac, yvelas awmyos<br />
da momavals, yvelas Svilebisa<br />
da SviliSvilebis beds? _ amaze<br />
pasuxismgeblobas ratom ar<br />
grZnob, roca cxovrob am qveyanaSi<br />
da ukacravad, magram miwas<br />
amZimeb? 26 wlis axalgazrda<br />
kacma gviTxra: _ `arc kaci varga,<br />
rom cocxali mkvdarsa emsgavsos,<br />
iyos sofelSi da soflisTvis<br />
ara izrunvos~ _ sofelze,<br />
samSobloze zrunva ratom<br />
dagvaviwda? ra aris sam-<br />
Soblo CvenTvis, boselia, sabZelia,<br />
bostania, marketia, kaco?!<br />
bazrobaa mxolod, sadac sargebeli<br />
SeiZleba vnaxoT? esaa mxolod?<br />
_ swored imitom miyvars is<br />
`marTali gazeTi~, rom amazea<br />
saubari, amis Sesaxeb afrTxilebda<br />
TiTqmis yvela nomerSi<br />
mkiTxvels, rom arTmevdnen yvelaze<br />
Zvirfass, Zalze mniSvnelovans...<br />
_ yvela nomeri iyo gafr-<br />
Txileba, ra igegmeboda da SeZaxili:<br />
_ `gadajiSebas gvipireben,<br />
gadasxvaferebas da nu izamT<br />
amas, qarTvelebo!~ _ ar gvismendnen!<br />
aseT adamianebs ar usmens<br />
Cveni sazogadoeba, samagierod,<br />
didi interesiT usmens viRac<br />
avantiurists, romelsac parlamentaroba<br />
unda, Zalaufleba unda,<br />
raRac piradi interesebi<br />
rom aqvs.<br />
es Tu ase ar aris, aba, Zneli<br />
Sesatyobi iyo, vin iyvnen<br />
isini, vinc dRes xelisuflebaSi<br />
gvyavs? gaixseneT, rogor iqceodnen,<br />
ras qadagebdnen, ra interesebi<br />
hqondaT _ amas mixvedra<br />
ar undoda, es zedapirze ido.<br />
miuxedavad amisa, mainc xom<br />
acundrukda qarTveli xalxis<br />
sakmao nawili, mainc xom amCatda,<br />
mainc xom gahyva sacdurs?<br />
_ gaxsovT, aseTi azri trialebda,<br />
`SevardnaZeze uaresi<br />
vinRa unda iyos~, `oRond SevardnaZe<br />
ar iyos, vinc ginda iyos~...<br />
_ es idioturi argumentia!<br />
ras hqvia _ `vinc ginda iyos!~<br />
jer erTi, im dros, romelzec<br />
Cven vsaubrobT, SevardnaZe<br />
iyo problema? _ erTi weli<br />
hqonda darCenili da is iqneboda,<br />
Tu ar iqneboda, dids aRarafers<br />
niSnavda, radgan, Zalaufleba<br />
isedac amaT hqondaT ukve<br />
xelSi, eseni marTavdnen qveyanas.<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
fexebze ekidaT generaluri<br />
prokuraturac, Sinagan saqmeTa<br />
saministroc da absoluturad<br />
yvela uwyeba.<br />
_ maSin moaxdines saqarTvelos<br />
privatizeba da axla vinaa<br />
damTmobi...<br />
_ asea. SevardnaZis erT-erTi<br />
umTavresi codva, rac man Caidina,<br />
isaa, rom man Caabara xelisufleba<br />
amaT da asparezidan gaaZeva<br />
is saSualo Taoba, romelic<br />
Wkuadamjdari iyo, gonieri<br />
da pasuxismgeblobis grZnoba<br />
hqonda. axla rom amboben, `Carecxilebio~,<br />
Carecxva is iyo,<br />
rac SevardnaZem gaakeTa, Carecxa<br />
mTeli Taoba, romelsac unda<br />
etvirTa qveynis tvirTi da Caanacvla<br />
patara biWebiT, romlebic,<br />
rogorc ki moRonierdnen,<br />
moutrialdnen gamzrdels da<br />
panRuriT gaaZeves. is ki iyo<br />
Rirsi, magram Cven ra davaSaveT,<br />
qveyanam ra daaSava?<br />
_ batono vaxtang, saCoTiro<br />
ram unda gkiTxoT, ar fiqrobT,<br />
rom xalxis gabaiburebaSi lomis<br />
wili Cvens kolegebs _ Jurnalistebs<br />
udevT?<br />
_ samwuxarod, asea. Tumca<br />
eseni Jurnalistebi ki ara,<br />
specsamsaxurebis TanamSromlebi<br />
iyvnen da arian.<br />
eseni rom moiyvanes xelisuflebaSi,<br />
dairqves `gamarjvebuli<br />
xalxis televizia~ da es<br />
e.w JurnalistTa korpusi gadanawilda,<br />
zogi saxelmwifo<br />
struqturebSi wavida da Zalian<br />
Tbilad da tkbilad mokalaTda,<br />
zogi _ e.w opoziciur televiziebSi<br />
da axla iqidan gvmoZRvraven,<br />
viTom TviTon ar SeewyoT<br />
xeli imisTvis, rasac axla ebr-<br />
Zvian. damijereT, vinc im dros<br />
ase irjeboda da `moRvaweobda~,<br />
isini isev iq arian, sadac iyvnen<br />
da verasodes gamovlen iqidan,<br />
iqve arian CarCenili.<br />
aba, kargad mousmineT maT saubrebs,<br />
maT gadacemebs, maT replikebs<br />
_ isini versad ver wavlen<br />
TavianTi warsulidan. mere<br />
ra, rom erT-or kritikul frazas<br />
isvrian, viRacas gakenwlaven,<br />
eseni, es e.w. `samxrebiani<br />
Jurnalistebi~ arian isev iq,<br />
TavianTi Zveli patronebis gverdiT.<br />
farisevlobam daaqcia es<br />
qveyana! farisevlobs yvela! politikosebze<br />
xom aRarc Rirs<br />
saubari, sindis-namusis ZarRvi<br />
yvelas erTad gauwyda TiTqos;<br />
farisevlobs kaci, romelsac ganaTlebuli<br />
da inteleqtualuri<br />
adamiani eTqmis; farisevlobs kaci,<br />
romelsac araferSi sWirdeba<br />
farisevloba; farisevlobs<br />
sasuliero piri; farisevlobs<br />
mrevli...<br />
aba, daakvirdiT, rogori ur-<br />
TierTobebia eklesiasa da xelisuflebas<br />
Soris – simarTlis<br />
Tqma vis raSi ainteresebs, mTavaria,<br />
erTmaneTs kargad waefarisevlon.<br />
siyvaruli niWiao. me vfiqrob,<br />
rom siyvaruli bedisweraa.<br />
ibadebian adamianebi, romlebTac<br />
sakuTari Tavis garda aravin da<br />
araferi uyvarT. rogorc Cans,<br />
aseTi adamianebis simravlea saqarTveloSi<br />
da amitom ucxoa<br />
maTTvis sityva `Tavganwirva~,<br />
Tavganwirva, vTqvaT, qveynisTvis,<br />
principebisTvis, moyvasisTvis,<br />
usiyvarulod gakeTebuli ki,<br />
aranairi saqme ar unaxavs aravis...<br />
_ modi, Cven isev gavagrZeloT<br />
im `marTali gazeTis~ tradiciebi<br />
da simarTle vilaparakoT.<br />
_ vilaparakoT, sxva ra dagvrCenia...<br />
* * *<br />
`werili, romelsac axla<br />
gTavazobT, `marTali gazeTis~<br />
furclebze daibeWda 2002<br />
wlis ivlisis TveSi. redaqciis<br />
minawerSi vkiTxulobT: `pirovneba,<br />
romlis monaTxrobsac veyrdnobiT,<br />
am werilis momzadebisas<br />
da romelmac ar isurva Tavisi<br />
vinaobis gamJRavneba, saer-<br />
TaSoriso politikuri cxovrebis<br />
niuansebSi kargad Caxeduli<br />
da farTod informirebuli piria.<br />
cxadia, Cven ar SegveZlo am<br />
pirovnebis mier mowodebuli informaciis<br />
gadamowmeba, Tumca,<br />
misi miwodeba sazogadoebisTvis<br />
mainc aucilebel saqmed migvaCnia<br />
_ sakiTxi Cveni qveynis bediRbals<br />
exeba.~
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
15<br />
aqa ambavi `verbliudisa~<br />
romelic saqarTveloSi<br />
zogierTebs nacionalur<br />
gmirad miaCniaT<br />
buSis da<br />
SevardnaZe-putinis<br />
mowinaaRmdegeTa<br />
saidumlo garigeba<br />
`11 seqtembris amerikuli<br />
teraqtis Semdeg SanxaiSi aSSruseTis<br />
prezidentebis Sexvedram<br />
da im faqtma, rom putinma<br />
supersaxelmwifos postsabWoTa<br />
sivrcis aziuri samxedro bazebis<br />
droebiTi daTmobiT myari<br />
placdarmi Seaqmnevina CeCneTis<br />
sazRvarTan, aSkarad Tu farulad<br />
aamxedra rogorc buSis,<br />
aseve putinis mowinaarmdegeebi.<br />
am garigebis procesualuri<br />
Sesrulebis bolo etapze atyda<br />
qarTuli mediis da politikuri<br />
elitis zogierTi warmomadgenlis<br />
kiJini kodorSi SeiaraRebuli<br />
CeCeni da arabi `boevikebis~<br />
dabanakebaze, rasac mohyva<br />
eduard SevardnaZis agresiuli<br />
gancxadebebi ruseTis winaaRmdeg.<br />
postsabWoTa eqssagareo ministri<br />
pirvelad daupirispirda<br />
ruseTs sajarod, rasac ruse-<br />
Tis xelisuflebis `memarcxene~<br />
politikuri Zalebis mxridan<br />
sapasuxo agresiuli komentarebi<br />
mohyva, prezidenti putini<br />
ki, ratomRac zekosmiuri simSvidiT<br />
Sexvda yovelives.<br />
viTarebis analizi qveSecneulad<br />
iZleva saSualebas, rom<br />
aSS-ruseTis didi SeTanxmebis<br />
paralelurad, ruseT-saqarTvelos,<br />
anu putin-SevardnaZis saidumlo<br />
SeTanxmebac davinaxoT,<br />
romelic politikuri kanoniT<br />
kvlavac `gaumWvirvalea.~<br />
xsenebuli didi SeTanxmebis<br />
irgvliv gaCenili pirdapiri Tu<br />
iribi varaudebiT SeSfoTebuli<br />
buSis da SevardnaZe-putinis<br />
mtrebi aSkarad amoqmeddnen.<br />
vaSingtonis TeTri saxlis<br />
kuluarebidan dapirispirebam<br />
avanscenaze gadmoinacvla da<br />
respublikelebs Zalebis mobilizeba<br />
uwevT, raTa Tavidan<br />
aacilon kritikis naRmebi Tanapartiel<br />
buSs.<br />
sxvaTaSoris, samive prezidentis<br />
winaaRmdeg dawyebuli<br />
ganzraxvis pirveli raundi saqarTveloSi<br />
ganxorcielda da<br />
prezidentma SevardnaZem gasuli<br />
wlis noemberSi taxti Tu eqs-<br />
Sinagan saqmeTa ministris kaxa<br />
TargamaZis gadadgomiT Seinar-<br />
Cuna, 2002 wlis gazafxulze<br />
kodorSi Seqmnili daZabulobidan<br />
SevardnaZe prezidentma putinma<br />
ixsna.<br />
qarTuli sazogadoebisTvis<br />
kargad aris cnobili orive incidentis<br />
faruli organizatorebi<br />
Jvania-saakaSvilis saxiT,<br />
romlebic sul cota xniT adre,<br />
dasavleTis tribunidan ar-<br />
Semdgar qarTul saxelmwifoze<br />
saubrobdnen.<br />
dasavleTidan miRebuli direqtivebis<br />
Sesabamisad moqmedi<br />
Jvania-saakaSvilis jgufi axal,<br />
morig `antirusul~ da `antiSevardnaZistul~<br />
kampanias gegmavs.<br />
maTi mizania kriminalebis<br />
saSualebiT Siga Tu sasazRvro<br />
diversiebis mowyoba, rac gamoixateba<br />
TavdasxmebiT, ZarcvebiT...<br />
SesaZloa, kvlav gaimeton<br />
sasikvdilod vinme, kompetenturi<br />
piri, raTa aCvenon msoflios,<br />
Tu rogor binZurad ebrZvis<br />
SevardnaZis xelisufleba WeSmariti<br />
demokratiis damkvidrebas<br />
saqarTveloSi.<br />
mogexsenebaT, aseTi masStaburi<br />
aqciis dawyebas esaWiroeba<br />
fuli, romlis wyaro, rogorc<br />
`Jurnalisturi gamoZiebis~<br />
moskoveli informatori<br />
ityobineba, kvlav amerikul-rusul-somxuri<br />
finansebia.<br />
riggareSe sesiebis msvlelobisas<br />
parlamentis kuluarebSi<br />
gaJona informaciam, rom<br />
vaxtang Wkuaseli moskovidan<br />
ityobineba Jvania-saakaSvilis<br />
ganaxlebul urTierTobebze dasavleTis<br />
rus rezidentebTan,<br />
romelTac Jvania-saakaSvilma<br />
karga xania, sulTan erTad, saqarTvelos<br />
strategiuli saidumlo<br />
saxelmwifo<br />
informaciebic<br />
mihyides. vinaidan<br />
amjerad<br />
misayidi aRaraferia,<br />
Sevardna-<br />
Zis memkvidreobas<br />
daxarbebuli,<br />
missave ubeSi gamozrdili<br />
Jvania-saakaSvili<br />
mtrulad ganwyobil<br />
dasavle-<br />
Tis rus rezidentebTan<br />
axali motiviT daaxloebas<br />
cdiloben, rac unda gamoikveTos<br />
mTavrobis, maT Soris<br />
Sss, uSiSroebis ministrebisa<br />
da prezidentis gadayenebis<br />
moTxovniT. saprotesto aqciis<br />
sababis saSualebas Seqmnian mediis<br />
da arasamTavrobo organizaciebis<br />
im warmomadgenelTa<br />
mxardaWeriT, romlebic maTi<br />
faruli daqvemdebarebis qveS<br />
imyofebian.<br />
marTalia, erT dros evgeni<br />
primakovTan urTierTobaSi aslan<br />
abaSiZis faruli ZalisxmeviT<br />
Jvania-saakaSvils kovzi nacarSi<br />
CauvardaT, magram axla<br />
axali ideebiT ganaaxles urTierToba<br />
primakovis mTavar dasayrden<br />
`ruseTis strategiuli<br />
kvlevis centrTan~. rogorc<br />
moskovidan gvatyobineben, urTierTobis<br />
am iniciativas mxars<br />
uWers iuri luJkovi.<br />
iuri luJkovi cnobilia,<br />
rogorc `memarcxene centristuli~<br />
partiebis lideri da<br />
misi `oteCesto-s~ Stab-bina<br />
xSirad maspinZlobs radikalurad<br />
memarcxene politikur liderebs:<br />
sergei baburins, konstantin<br />
titovs, boris fiodorovs<br />
da sxvebs, romelTa ukan<br />
dganan msxvili biznes-oligarqebi,<br />
maT Soris: arkadi volskis,<br />
kobzonis, dovganis da warmoSobiT<br />
zugdideli anzor kikaliSvilis<br />
struqturaTa biznesmenebi.<br />
bolo dros aRsaniSnavia<br />
primakov-luJkovisa da vladislav<br />
surkovis politikuri<br />
trio, romlebic, putins didad<br />
ar moswons.<br />
ai, am CamoTvlil Zaleb-<br />
Tan ganaaxles urTierToba<br />
Jvania-saakaSvilma, raTa maTze<br />
dayrdnobiT miiRon dafinanseba<br />
im gadatrialebisTvis,<br />
rac igegmeba ormxrivi<br />
SeTanxmebiT putin-Sevardna-<br />
Zis sawinaaRmdegod. ase rom,<br />
lozungi `moskovi putinis<br />
da Tbilisi SevardnaZis gareSe~<br />
mxareTaTvis saerToa.<br />
saakaSvili, romlis saidumlo<br />
fsevdonimia `verbliudi~,<br />
rusuli specsamsaxurebis<br />
oficeria da dakav-<br />
Sirebulia specsamsaxurebis<br />
im ZalebTan, romlebic dasavleTidan<br />
miRebuli direqtivebiT<br />
moqmedeben SevardnaZeputinis<br />
winaaRmdeg.<br />
rusuli `imijkontaqti~,<br />
romelic daarsebis dRidan dasavleTidan<br />
miRebuli direqtivebis<br />
Sesabamisad moqmedebs,<br />
kvlav Jvania-saakaSvilis samsaxurSia<br />
da ganaxlebuli programiT<br />
iwyebs sazogadoebis fsiqotronuli<br />
zemoqmedebiT zombirebas.~<br />
* * *<br />
mivubrundeT im dros, vnaxoT,<br />
rogor ganviTarda movlenebi,<br />
gamarTlda Tu ara moskovidan<br />
mowodebuli informacia.<br />
yvelas Tu ara, sazogadoebis<br />
did nawils axsovs, ra ambavi<br />
atyda rodesac `rusTavi-2-<br />
is~ ofisSi saxelmwifo usafr-<br />
Txoebis samsaxuris sagamoZiebo<br />
jgufi Sevida _ qudze kacs iZaxebdnen<br />
calke `rusTavi-2-is~<br />
e.w saxeebi da calke _ axalgazrda<br />
e.w politikosebi (`axalgazrda<br />
reformatorebi~, romlebic<br />
dRes xelisuflebad da<br />
opoziciad arian warmodgenilebi).<br />
uSiSroebis samsaxuris<br />
jgufis wevrebi damnaSave bavSvebiviT<br />
liftTanve idgnen Camwkrivebuli<br />
da dakiTxvas piriqiT,<br />
telekompaniis Jurnalistebi<br />
utarebdnen, gareT ki xalxis<br />
mobilizeba iyo dawyebuli,<br />
ariqa, Tavisufal sityvas apatimrebeno.<br />
moskovuri informaciis<br />
Tanaxmad, ra Tqma unda, iqve<br />
iyvnen arasamTavrobo organizaciebis<br />
warmomadgenlebic.<br />
sabolood, uSiSroeba, rogorc<br />
SeiZurwa `rusTavi-2-Si<br />
(sxva sityva ar Seefereba), iseve<br />
gamoiZurwa, magram civilizebuli<br />
msoflio ukve `dabolebuli~<br />
iyo, rom uSiSroebis samsaxuris<br />
TanamSromlebi ZaliT SeiWrnen<br />
telekompaniaSi da mxolod<br />
xalxis Zalisxmevam ixsna<br />
raRac saSinelebisgan.<br />
ram da vin ixsna saqarTvelo<br />
im dros sisxlisRvrisgan, es<br />
sxva Temaa, magram uSiSroebis<br />
ministris Tavi ukve tyavzeRa<br />
ekida, cxadi iyo, rom uSiSroebis<br />
sabWos sxdomaze ministri<br />
Tanamdebobidan gadadgomis Sesaxeb<br />
ganacxadebda. miuxedavad<br />
imisa, rom TviT ministrma vaxtang<br />
quTaTelaZem brZana, rom<br />
misi uwyebis TanamSromlebs kanoni<br />
ar daurRveviaT, arc arsad<br />
SeWrilan, arc uflebamosilebisTvis<br />
gadaumetebiaT da mosamarTlis<br />
mier gacemuli brZanebis<br />
safuZvelze iyvnen Sesuli.<br />
ise moxda, rogorc gegma iTvaliswinebda,<br />
ministri gadadga,<br />
rac aravis gakvirvebia.<br />
saqarTvelos generalur<br />
prokurors saswrafod daevala<br />
Seqmnili mdgomareobis Seswavla<br />
da saTanado daskvnis gamotana.<br />
Sesaswavli araferi hqonda<br />
genprokurors, win elaga<br />
yvelanairi dokumenti, rom kanondarRvevas<br />
adgili ar hqonia,<br />
magram gabiTurebuli xalxis<br />
raodenobiT zurggamagrebuli<br />
SevardnaZis memkvidreobis mosurneni<br />
ultimatumis enaze<br />
iqiT alaparakdnen, mxolod<br />
uSiSroebis ministri ar kmara,<br />
Sss ministri kaxa TargamaZe da<br />
genprokurori gia mefariSvilic<br />
gadmogvigdeT, radgan am<br />
samma SeTqmuleba da Sesabamisad<br />
provokacia dagegma Tavisufali<br />
sityvis mebairaxtre, xalxis<br />
televizia `rusTavi-2-is~ winaaRmdego.<br />
aq iyo erTi mniSvnelovani<br />
momenti, rasac dabrmavebuli Tu<br />
umwifari (an orive erTad) sazogadoeba<br />
ver acnobierebda _<br />
Jvania Riad sTavazobda garigebas<br />
genprokurors, romlis bedic<br />
imiT ganisazRvreboda, ra<br />
daskvnas dadebda. saqme imaSi<br />
gaxldaT, rom kanonis daumor-<br />
Cilebloba kanonSemoqmedebiTi<br />
institutis, anu parlamentis<br />
Tavmjdomaris mier iyo waxalisebuli<br />
da mxardaWerili. swored<br />
baton JvaniasTan sakonsultacio<br />
zarisa da misi Carevis<br />
Semdeg atyda gniasi `rusTavi-2-<br />
Si~. batonma Jvaniam kargad icoda,<br />
rom kanoniT, samarTlebrivi<br />
pasuxismgebloba mas da mis<br />
Tanagundelebs ekisreboda,<br />
amitomac qveSecneulad ki<br />
ara, sruli SegnebiT SesTavaza<br />
garigeba genprokurors<br />
(albaT, msoflioSi urbiles<br />
genprokurors).<br />
maTi SiSi safuZvliani<br />
iyo, radgan maTze ukeT aravin<br />
icoda, rac Caidines da<br />
maTi moqmedeba ra muxliT<br />
iyo dafiqsirebuli sisxlis<br />
samarTlis kodeqsSi.<br />
Ss ministrma, rom ityvian,<br />
Tavze daaxura yvelaferi<br />
baton Jvanias. am ukanasknelma<br />
sxdoma datova da<br />
darwmunebuli iyo, rom SevardnaZe<br />
mis (misi gundis)<br />
moTxovnebs mxars ar dauWerda,<br />
arc Ss ministris da arc genprokuroris<br />
gadadgomas ar da-<br />
Tanxmdeboda, amitom erTaderT<br />
imedad mxolod parlamenti rCeboda.<br />
sxdomis damTavrebis Semdeg<br />
preskonferencia gaimarTa, sadac<br />
batoni Jvanias eWvi gamarTlda,<br />
SevardnaZem ganacxada, rom<br />
`rusTavi-2-Si~ Sesvlisas kanoni<br />
ar darRveula da amitom arc<br />
mxars dauWers xsenebul pirTa<br />
winaaRmdeg wayenebul moTxovnas<br />
_ xuTSabaTi iyo.<br />
SevardnaZe iyo maSin erTaderTi,<br />
vinc amas ambobda, sxvas<br />
aravis, maTac ki, visac samsaxurebrivad<br />
evalebodaT, rom obieqturi<br />
samarTlebrivi Sefaseba<br />
miecaT momxdarisTvis, pirSi<br />
wyali hqondaT Cagubebuli...<br />
sxdomidan gamosulma Jvaniam<br />
Jurnalistebs gamogvicxada,<br />
rom aqciis Semdgomi ganviTarebis<br />
forma damokidebuli iqneboda<br />
imaze, Sesruldeboda Tu ara<br />
mis (misi gundis) mier wamoyenebuli<br />
moTxovna.<br />
parlamentis sxdomaze, romelic<br />
paraskevs iyo daniSnuli,<br />
didi ambavi unda gadawyvetiliyo.<br />
wina Rames Jvania-saakaSvilis<br />
banakSi sayovelTao TaTbiri<br />
gaimarTa, romelSic gzidan<br />
erTveboda mixeil saakaSvili<br />
da miTiTebebs telefoniT iZleoda.<br />
rogorc xma gamovida, gamocdili<br />
specialistebis mier<br />
moskovSi damuSavebuli gegma<br />
swored im dRes unda ganxorcielebuliyo.<br />
gegmis mixedviT, SevardnaZe<br />
unda aeZulebinaT, rom gadamdgariyo<br />
da aseve, aucileblad<br />
unda daetovebinaT postebi Ss<br />
ministrs da genprokurors, ris<br />
Semdegac, prezidentis movaleobis<br />
Semsrulebli avtomaturad<br />
gaxdeboda Jvania, romelsac 45<br />
dRis ganmavlobaSi unda moemzadebina<br />
safuZveli axali saprezidento<br />
arCevnebisTvis. vinaidan<br />
prezidentis movaleobis<br />
Semsrulebels sakadro cvlilebebis<br />
ufleba ar hqonda, SeiZleboda,<br />
Jvania-saakaSvilis<br />
gunds sruli fiasko ganecada,<br />
Tu postebze darCebodnen kaxa<br />
TargamaZe da gia mefariSvili,<br />
ase rom, aucilebeli iyo maTi<br />
moSorebac.<br />
maia WeliZe<br />
(gagZeelba iqneba)
16 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
ministr goga xaCiZis<br />
mama, romelic<br />
`mxedrionis~ wevri iyo,<br />
yaCaRobaSi imxileboda?!<br />
` s a e r T o<br />
gazeTs~ cnobilma<br />
advokatma<br />
mamuka<br />
nozaZem Zalze<br />
saintereso<br />
informacia<br />
miawoda,<br />
romelic garemos<br />
dacvis<br />
ministr goga<br />
xaCiZis mamis<br />
arcTu saxarbielo<br />
warsuls exeba. am TemiT SeiZleba<br />
arc davinteresebuliyaviT,<br />
rom ara suramSi momxdari is cnobili<br />
incidenti, ra drosac ministris<br />
mama da misi qaliSvili gaveSebuli<br />
ebrZodnen xalxTan Sesaxvedrad<br />
misul `qarTuli ocnebis~ wevrebs.<br />
mamuka nozaZe: `zustad ar<br />
maxsovs romeli weli iyo, yovel<br />
SemTxvevaSi goga xaCiZe im period-<br />
Si samcxe-javaxeTis gubernatori<br />
gaxldaT, roca xaSuris sasamarTlo<br />
(mosamarTle Tamaz TayaZe) ixilavda<br />
samoqalaqo saqmes, sadac me<br />
erT-erTi mopasuxis interesebs vicavdi.<br />
am saqmeSi kidev ori mopasuxe<br />
iyo, maT Soris xaCiZis mama. saqme<br />
exeboda `mxedrionis~ zeobis periodSi<br />
xaSurSi momxdari dayaCaRebis<br />
faqts. sarCelis Sinaarsi iyo<br />
aseTi, rom samma SeiaraRebulma<br />
pirovnebam<br />
daayaCaRa xaSurSi<br />
mcxovrebi eTnikurad<br />
osi piri da am yaCaRobaSi<br />
imxileboda goga<br />
xaCiZis mamac. dazaralebuli<br />
Cioda, rom misi<br />
saxlidan gaitaces<br />
antikvaruli iaraRi da<br />
mis dabrunebas iTxovda.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, am<br />
danaSaulze im period-<br />
Sive aRiZra ss-is saqme,<br />
Tavdamsxmelebi daakaves<br />
da isini ramdenime Tve<br />
isxdnen Sss-s SenobaSi<br />
arsebul izolatorSi.<br />
maSin dakavebulebs<br />
droebiTi dakavebis izolatorebis<br />
garda, Sss-s SenobaSi arsebul saknebSic<br />
aTavsebdnen didi xniT. samoqalaqo<br />
sarCeli am ss-is saqmidan<br />
gamomdinare iyo, magram sasamarTlom<br />
ar daakmayofila, anu mopasuxeebi<br />
gaamarTla, maTTvis ar daukisrebiaT<br />
am iaraRis dabruneba~.<br />
gubernatoris mamas, saakaSvilis<br />
sasamarTlo, cxadia, ar dasjida...<br />
es arafer SuaSia, ubralod, dazaralebulma<br />
ver SeZlo Tavisi uflebebis<br />
dacva, Sesabamisi mkicebulebebi<br />
ver warmoadgina, romlis<br />
Tanaxmadac daadasturebda, rom mas<br />
namdvilad hqonda es antikvaruli<br />
iaraRi da is gaitaces. Tavis droze,<br />
rodesac dazaralebulma policias<br />
mimarTa, saqme mxolod dayaCa-<br />
Rebis faqtze aRiZra, iaraRis gatacebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT mas maSin ar<br />
miumarTavs, amitom am danaSaulze<br />
ar aRZrula saqme. raxan es gataceba<br />
ver daamtkica (samoqalaqo saqme-<br />
Si TiToeuli mxare valdebulia amtkicos<br />
is garemoebebi, romelzec<br />
amyarebs Tavis moTxovnebs), amitomac<br />
saqme yvela sasamarTlo instanciaSi<br />
waago.<br />
ase rom, xaCiZes aravin arafers<br />
ugonebs, mamamisi marTlac imxileboda<br />
yaCaRobaSi da me, rogorc advokati,<br />
uSualod vmonawileobdi am<br />
danaSaulTan dakavSirebul konkretul<br />
saqmeSi. es saqme dRes arqiv-<br />
Sia, nebismier dainteresebul Jurnalists<br />
SeuZlia gamoiTxovos da<br />
Cems simarTleSi Tavadve darwmundeba.<br />
maSin `nacmoZraobas~ ase ar<br />
hqonda saxeli gatexili da simar-<br />
Tle giTxraT, Zalze gamikvirda,<br />
rom iseTi kaci daniSnes gubernatorad,<br />
romelsac aseTi saeWvo warsulis<br />
mama hyavda. imave sasamarTloze<br />
gaxda CemTvis cnobili, rom ministr<br />
xaCiZis mama sxvadasxva SeiaraRebuli<br />
dajgufebebis wevri iyo<br />
da kargi reputaciiT ar sargeblobda.<br />
- damnaSaveebma sisxlis samarTlebrivad<br />
Tu ages pasuxi, miTumetes<br />
dakavebulebi yofilan?<br />
- es saqme sasamarTlomde arc<br />
misula, mogexsenebaT, maSin ra ganukiTxaobac<br />
iyo. rogorc giTxariT,<br />
es pirovnebebi ramdenime TveSi<br />
gaaTavisufles, magram aravis uTqvams<br />
xaCiZis da misi Tanamzraxvelebi<br />
am yaCaRobaSi udanaSauloebi iyvneno.<br />
saqme arc Sewyvetila, ubralod,<br />
maT aRkveTis RonisZieba SeecvalaT,<br />
braldebulebi gauSves da<br />
policia am saqmes mere aRar mibrunebia<br />
(ise, es arc aris gasakviri,<br />
radgan eqsprezidentma SevardnaZem<br />
umZimes danaSaulobebTan dakavSirebiT<br />
msjavrdebuli `mxedrionelebi~<br />
Zalze male Seiwyala da Tavisufleba<br />
aCuqa – m.s.).<br />
sxvaTa Soris gia yaryaraSvilmac<br />
ganacxada Tavis interviuSi,<br />
rom xaCiZis mama `mxedrionis~ wevri<br />
iyo da sxvadasxva danaSaulebriv<br />
saqmeebSi iRebda monawileobas. me<br />
mxolod es faqti vici, romelzec<br />
Tavisuflad SemiZlia visaubro,<br />
radgan gacnobili var saqmis masalebs,<br />
romelTa mixedviTac xaCiZes<br />
mama dakavebuli iyo garkveuli periodi<br />
konkretul danaSaulTan dakavSirebiT.<br />
manana<br />
suxiSvili<br />
irakli lomouri<br />
(mwerali): Cemi da Cemi<br />
megobrebis TvalsazrisiT,<br />
garemo sazogadoeba ukve<br />
zRvarze, bolo mijnaze<br />
imyofeba! aris radikaluri<br />
cvlilebis<br />
molodini<br />
da cvlileba<br />
Tu ar moxda, es<br />
iqneba katastrofis<br />
tolfasi. Tu<br />
Cven gavagrZeleT<br />
iseve cxovreba,<br />
rogorc aqamde<br />
vicxovreT, Tu Cven<br />
SevegueT imas, rasac<br />
aqamde veguebodiT, CaTvaleT rom saqar-<br />
Tvelos, Cvens Svilebs, Cvens ers momavali<br />
ar aqvs. da es ar aris mxolod litoni<br />
sityvebi da arc mxolod Cemi azri.<br />
Cemi axloblebis umravlesoba aseve<br />
fiqrobs, rom arCevnebi gayalbdeba. ufro<br />
sworad winaswar ukve gayalbebulia,<br />
radgan ararealuri, gaberili siebi<br />
gvaqvs saxeze. es niSnavs, rom gamocxaddeba<br />
Sedegi, romelic absoluturad<br />
ararealuri da araadekvaturi iqneba micemuli<br />
xmebisa. dagvrCeba erTi gza - gamovideT<br />
quCaSi da Cveni protesti xmamaRla<br />
gamovacxadoT. rac xelisuflebas<br />
Zalian awyobs, radgan gamoiyenebs misTvis<br />
Cveul Zalismier meTodebs. gamoiyenebs<br />
didi masStabiT da sisxlsac daRvris.<br />
sxva Sansi araa. es aris gardauvali.<br />
aq mTavari aris, Cven varT Tu ara<br />
mzad, vibrZoloT bolomde. anu quCaSi<br />
gavideT uiaraRod, iseve, rogorc mahaTma<br />
gandis momxreebi, romlebic Tavs aceminebdnen<br />
inglisel policielebs. Cvenc<br />
Tu viqnebiT mzad Tavi vaceminoT, sicocxle<br />
SevwiroT Cveni Svilebis, Cveni<br />
qveynis momavals?! Tu amis mzaoba, ganwyoba<br />
winaswar gveqneba, maSin SeiZleba<br />
moxdes gardatexa. gaixseneT Tundac mubaraqis<br />
SemTxveva. amerika wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />
itanda am da kidev bevr sxva<br />
diqtators, radgan awyobda. maT xom ormagi<br />
standartebi aqvT. diqtatori, romelic<br />
maT mxarezea - misaRebia, xolo<br />
qveynis SigniT ra xdeba, ar ainteresebT,<br />
Tumca sityviT didi demokratebi arian.<br />
magram, rodesac xalxi gamodis da moiTxovs<br />
reJimis wasvlas, maSin dasavle-<br />
Ti raRac momentSi, icvlis pozicias.<br />
ase rom Cven sxva gza ar dagvrCenia, gamovideT<br />
quCaSi, radgan arCevnebi rom gayalbdeba,<br />
es ukve naTelia.<br />
marTalia, Cemi sanacnobo wre ar aris<br />
mTeli saqarTvelo, magram darwmunebuli<br />
varT, rom sazogadoebis didi nawili<br />
mxars uWers biZina ivaniSvils, magram<br />
xelisufleba gaakeTebs yvelafers, rom<br />
is procentebi daidos, rac mas sWirdeba.<br />
da Tu Cven am tyuils moviTmenT, davmarcxdebiT,<br />
Cveni ocneba Caflavdeba!<br />
ra Tqma unda, garkveul xmebs miiRebs<br />
nacionaluri moZraoba, vTqvaT 30%-s,<br />
magram daiwers 70-80%-s. winaswar milioni<br />
xma, biuleteni aris ukve gamzadebuli,<br />
ararsebuli adamianebis xma, imas<br />
Cayrian da ras izam? kontrolis meqanizmi<br />
xom ar arsebobs. realur<br />
amomrCevelze milioniT<br />
metia siebSi gatarebuli.<br />
ararsebul quCebze,<br />
ararsebul saxlebSi<br />
miwrilia adamianebis<br />
garkveuli raodenoba.<br />
es xom<br />
tyuli da siyalbea.<br />
araferi ar gveSveleba,<br />
Tu Cven ar mivxvdebiT,<br />
rom mxolod<br />
brZoliT SegviZlia gamovideT<br />
am siyalbidan<br />
da borotebidan.<br />
Cveni mmarTveli ar vici,<br />
paranoiiT aris Sepyrobili,<br />
ar vici - ciklofreniiT, magram namdvilad<br />
samarcxvinoa. gvyavda Cven istoriaSi<br />
saSineli mmarTvelebi, avgiorgi<br />
gavixsenoT, magram dRes avmiSas Tu moviTmenT,<br />
Cven, rogorc ers, momavali<br />
namdvilad ar gviweria! vaJas sityvebi _<br />
„bilwTs ar Savekvri zaviTa“ an SoTas<br />
sityvebi _ „sjobs sicocxlesa naZraxsa“<br />
unda gaviTavisoT! mxolod lamazi sityvebi<br />
ar unda iyos! am dros dRes Cven<br />
yvelani konformistebi varT, SevegueT<br />
yvelani sakuTari TavisTvis cxovrebas.<br />
Tu ar gavixseneT, ar mivxvdebiT, rom<br />
Rirseba ufro maRla dgas, vidre keTildReoba<br />
da materialuri samyaro, fizikuri<br />
arseboba - araferi ar gevSveleba!<br />
ivaniSvils gacilebiT adre unda ecada<br />
sazogadoebaSi Semosvla. is xom gandegiliviT<br />
cxovrobda Tavis koSkSi da<br />
Cveni sazogadoeba misTvis Signidan ar<br />
iyo cnobili! axla midis es procesi. gamovida<br />
koSkidan, Semoikriba Zalian far-<br />
To speqtri opoziciis Tu inteligenciis;<br />
niWieri, inteleqtuali adamianebi<br />
arian mis gverdiT.<br />
kiTxvebi ki maqvs ivaniSvilTan, magram<br />
sxva arCevani ar arsebobs, es aris bolo<br />
gabrZoleba da Tu aRmoCnda, rom esec<br />
aris TamaSi, sadRac dawerili scenari,<br />
maSin es aris sruli daRupva, kraxi!<br />
Teoriulad arafers gamovricxav. SevardnaZis<br />
damyayebuli reJimis dros Cven<br />
vambobdiT, oRond es wavides da amaze<br />
uaresi xom ar movao. aRmoCnda, rom movida!<br />
es gazrdili parametrebi da kvlevebi,<br />
aSenebuli qveyana mxolod iluzoruli<br />
da virtualuria! es ar aris realoba.<br />
me imasac, uSveb, rom Tavad Cveni<br />
mmarTveli sinamdviles ver aRiqvams obieqturad.<br />
magram mis gverdiT xom arian<br />
ufro saRad moazrovneebi?! Tumca maT<br />
saqarTvelo piradi gamdidrebisTvis<br />
sWirdebaT da danarCeni srulebiT ar<br />
aRelvebT!<br />
prezidentis fraza „meti saqme ara<br />
maqvs Cemi aSenebuli qveyana maT davutovoo“<br />
- niSnavs, rom is ar apirebs xelisuflebis<br />
daTmobas. is da misi gundi<br />
apireben saTveSi yofnas maradiulad, ra-<br />
Ta bolomde gamoxran es qveyana! Tu vinmes<br />
sjera, rom es qveyana marTla aSenda,<br />
gaixedos gareT ramdeni umuSevari da<br />
mSieria! wagebul omze gviTxres, rom movigeTo!<br />
am uzurpator xelisuflebas<br />
yvelaferi TavisTvis unda - fulic, Zalauflebac,<br />
sasamarTloc! es yvelaferi<br />
siurrealizmia! koSmarul sizmarSi ar<br />
momelandeboda, rom 21-e saukuneSi saqarTveloSi<br />
iqneboda vodeviluri avtoritarul-diqtatoruli<br />
reJimi. amis mere<br />
mxolod daxvretebi rCeba!<br />
Cven SeiZleba verc gavacnobieroT, ra<br />
SeiZleba Caidinos am xelisulfebam! sazogadoebrivi<br />
dapirispireba ukve yovel<br />
kviras xdeba. erTi gza rCeba - Tavi gadavdoT<br />
gandis momxreebiviT. Tumca ingliselebi<br />
civiluri imperialistebi iyvnen<br />
da es ki Crdilouri imperializmis<br />
moyvanilia! miSa, ra Tqma unda, aris ruseTis<br />
kaci da swored ruseTis saqmes<br />
akeTebs!<br />
fragmentebi interviudan<br />
`maestro~, gadacema `politmetri~
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
17<br />
Salva yvelas ebrZvis, Salvas<br />
aravisi sjera, garda SatberaSvilisa.<br />
Salva inglisuris swavlas,<br />
cxvris gatyavebas da sagareo<br />
politikas erTnairi mondomebiT<br />
udgeba. Salva imdenad seriozulia,<br />
komediuri Janris gadacemebs<br />
ar kadrulobs, “nanukas<br />
SouSi” ukraineli, qera, maRalfexeba,<br />
mkerdSiSveli qalebis<br />
xaTriTac ver miiyvanes. Salva amtkicebda,<br />
patarkaciSvilma winasaarCevno<br />
programa momparao, ivaniSvili<br />
ruseTis agentiao, teraqtebs<br />
miwyobeno, xmebi gamiyalbeso.<br />
mokled, Salva yvelas da<br />
yvelafris opoziciaa. amas winaT<br />
germanulenovani gazeTis “sarki”-<br />
s onlain gverdze Sevixede (Spiegel.de)<br />
da warmoidgineT Cemi<br />
gakvirveba, roca naTelaSvilze<br />
sakmaod vrceli statia vipove.<br />
Tavidan gavifiqre, arc ise xelwamosakravi<br />
yofilan leiboristebi-Tqo,<br />
magram, roca statiis<br />
Sinaarss gavecani, ar vicodi, metira<br />
Tu mecina. darwmunebuli<br />
var, leiboristebis lideri damimadlebs<br />
am statiis gaxmaurebas,<br />
misTvis xom yvelanairi piari<br />
(Savica da TeTric) piaria.<br />
statiis avtori: martin sonenborni<br />
– 43 wlis. avtori naSromis<br />
“Tanamedrove satiris<br />
umoqmedoba”; gazeT<br />
“titaniki”-s yofili redaqtori;<br />
2006 wlidan<br />
gazeT “sarki”-s (die Spiegel)<br />
satiruli rubrikebis<br />
pasuxismgebeli redaqtori.<br />
Tavis satirikosebTan<br />
erTad avtoria<br />
wignisa “das Partei”, sadac<br />
aRwerilia, rogor<br />
unda Seqmna partia germaniaSi<br />
da moipovo Zalaufleba.<br />
wignic satiruli<br />
Sinaarsisaa da uxvadaa<br />
gajerebuli germanuli<br />
partiebis qilikiT.<br />
martinma Tavis jgufTan<br />
erTad Seqmna partia “die<br />
Partie”. partiis wevrebi, umetesad,<br />
gazeT “titaniki”-s xelmomwerebi<br />
arian.<br />
2007 wels germaniis sagareo<br />
saqmeTa ministri saqarTvelos<br />
estumra ramdenimedRiani vizitiT.<br />
martins uTqvams, sagareo<br />
saqmeTa ministrze naklebi riTi<br />
varo, amitom saswrafod dauwyia<br />
zrunva imaze, rom Tavadac moxvedriliyo<br />
saqarTveloSi da<br />
Sexvedroda Tu xelisuflebas<br />
ara, opoziciur partias mainc.<br />
kavSirebi advilad moiZebna –<br />
vinme daniel vihardi, romelic<br />
Tavs warmoaCenda naTelaSvilis<br />
partiisTvis evropuli xaziT<br />
mrCevels (vcitireb - avt.). danieli<br />
SeuTanxmda, rom Seaxvedrebda<br />
leiboristuri partiis liders.<br />
vihardi saqarTveloSi<br />
cxovrobda da aq kurirebda germaniaSi<br />
e.w. au-paieris programiT<br />
wasvlis msurvelTa gamgzavrebas.<br />
Sexvedra daigegma.<br />
martinisTvis uTqvamT, kavkasia<br />
saSiSi mxarea samogzaurodo,<br />
iq qalaqis mTavar quCebSi jer<br />
kidev Riad xdeba Zarcva da<br />
mkvlelobao. martinma wamosvlam-<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
epatieba Tu ara satiras yvelaferi da<br />
ras warmoadgens realurad leiboristebis<br />
mokavSire partia germaniidan?<br />
de germaniis sagareo saministro-<br />
Si dareka da ikiTxa: SeiZleba<br />
Tu ara saqarTvelSi iorkezebis<br />
nabijebiT SeWrao. pasuxad<br />
ikiTxes, (da logikuradac) gasarTobi<br />
radiodan rekavTo?<br />
mogexsenebaT, satirikosebs<br />
uxdebaT tanisamosi Seuxamebel<br />
ferebSi, magram specialurad Cveni<br />
qveynisTvis da specialurad<br />
SalvasTan Sesaxvedrad germaniis<br />
erT-erT cnobil maRaziaSi<br />
“G&A”-Si, mTelma jgufma, er-<br />
Tad SeiZina 49 evrod Sefasebuli<br />
kostiumebi da ase damSvenebulni<br />
gamofrindnen. aeroportSi<br />
da TviTmfrinavSi ramdenime qar-<br />
Tuli sityva Seiswavles. Tbilisis<br />
axal aeroportSi azerbaijaneli<br />
mZRoli daxvdaT. martini<br />
aRniSnavs, ar gamWirvebia mZRol-<br />
Tan saubari, radganac rusuli<br />
icodao (ra ician germanelebma,<br />
rom Cvens ubedur qveyanaSi yvela<br />
taqsists da mZRols ori diplomi<br />
aqvs da rusulis codna aq<br />
aravis ukvirs). sastumro-<br />
SiDdaniel vihardma (Sexvedris<br />
organizatori) miakiTxa delegacias.<br />
sauzmis Semdeg kargad danayrebul<br />
germanelebs vihardma<br />
qalebi SesTavaza, SemiZlia 10-15<br />
evrod mogiyvanoTo. (mainc, ras<br />
niSnavs, rom evropelia, 5-larians<br />
ar kadrulobs). germanelebma<br />
dilis seqsisgan Tavis Sekaveba<br />
amjobines da delegaciac pirdapir<br />
Salvas ofisisken gaemarTa.<br />
iq ukve elodebodnen Jurnalistebi,<br />
operatorebi, partiis warmomadgenlebi.<br />
roca ukve ofisis<br />
kibeebze adiodnen, vihards martinisTvis<br />
uTqvams: ar vici, rogor<br />
moxda, magram aq didi gaugebrobaa,<br />
hgoniaT, rom didi partia<br />
xarT da germaniis parlamentSi<br />
30 mandati gaqvT, amitom mogiwyves<br />
aseTi Sexvedra, da<br />
gTxov, ar SeimCnioo (!!!). martins<br />
sakmaod mcire dro hqoda situaciis<br />
gasaanalizeblad, amitom<br />
Tavidan sityvaZunwobda. Salvas<br />
delegaciis danaxvisas sixaruli<br />
ver daumalavs, germaniis sagareo<br />
saqmeTa ministrs, romelic xelisuflebas<br />
Sexvda, sul 4 kaci axlda<br />
da Tqven CemTan ramdenni<br />
CamosulxarTo (25 kaci iyo delegaciaSi).<br />
Salva ris Salva iqneboda,<br />
rom ar moeyola rogor<br />
moutexa saakaSvilma arCevnebSi<br />
xmebis 30%, germaniis politikuri<br />
Zalebi ufro moqnilebi unda<br />
iyoTo, - daurigebia kidec megobrulad<br />
martini. sonenborns moewona<br />
qarTuli opoziciiis lideri,<br />
qarizmatuli, mxiaruli adamianiao.<br />
male “orma<br />
liderma” preskonferenciis<br />
darbazSi gadainacvla.<br />
iq - Jurnalistebi<br />
elodnen. gadaiRes<br />
sazeimo misalmeba<br />
(ufro gadaxveva<br />
eTqmoda - avt.), saxeldaxelod<br />
Seqmnil dokumentze<br />
xelic moaweres.<br />
dokumenti am ori<br />
partiis TanamSromlobas<br />
iTvaliswinebda.<br />
Salvam bevri isaubra<br />
am Sexvedris mniSvnelobaze.<br />
Tqva, Cveni<br />
partiebi SeerTda da<br />
awi, erTad bevr karg<br />
saqmes gavakeTebTo. martins<br />
erTi-orma Tanmxlebma ur-<br />
Cia: simarTle droze vuTxraT,<br />
mere rom gaigon, iqneb kedlebze<br />
Camogvkidono (kavkasiaSi “papuasuri<br />
momenti” muSaobs. avt). magram,<br />
sonenbornma TamaSis gagrZeleba<br />
amjobina (amaze ukeTes satirul<br />
garemos sadRa ipovnida –<br />
avt.) da Salvas iqve, kamerebisa<br />
da Jurnalistebis win amayad<br />
dahpirda, ai, moval Tu ara germaniis<br />
xelisuflebis saTaveSi,<br />
Tqvens partias yvelanairad mxar-<br />
Si davudgebi, xolo mTlianad<br />
qveyanas ki evrokavSirSi saqmes<br />
“Cavuwyobo”. am gancxadebam ovaciebi<br />
da didi taSi gamoiwvia.<br />
sonenbornis jgufs saCuqaric<br />
hqonda Camotanili specialurad<br />
SalvasTvis, berlinSi, turistul<br />
SopSi (sadac yvelaferi kapikebi<br />
Rirs) ludis kaTxa iyida.<br />
sazeimod gadasca kaTxa opoziciis<br />
qarimzatul liders martinma.<br />
im dRes qveynis yvela didi arxi<br />
am Sexvedras aSuqebda, rogorc<br />
qveyanaSi momxdar mniSvnelovan<br />
ambavs. martinis gamocdili jgufi<br />
ukve Tavad veRar arkvevda,<br />
sad mTavrdeboda xumroba da sad<br />
iwyeboda realoba. sonenborni<br />
tuxovskis cnobili gamonaTqvamiT<br />
inugeSebda Tavs: “satiras<br />
yvelaferi epatieba”.<br />
preskonferenciis Semdeg delegacia<br />
restoran “babiloSi”<br />
miiyvanes, sadac maspinZels ukve<br />
mitanili hqonda saukeTeso 60<br />
litri Rvino. iq kidev erTxel<br />
SesTavazes qalebi, oRond, amjerad,<br />
40 evrod.<br />
danielma martins auxsna qar-<br />
Tuli sufris wesebi: Tamada<br />
sufris ufrosia, is ambobs<br />
sadRegrZelos, romelic yovelTvis<br />
– gaumarjoTi mTvardebao.<br />
Wiqebi bolomde unda gamoicaloso,<br />
WiqaSi sasmisis Catoveba am<br />
qveyanaSi sasikvdilo Seuracxyofad<br />
iTvlebao. SegiZlia nebarTva<br />
iTxovo da sakuTari sadRegrZeloc<br />
ki Tqvao.<br />
martinma pirvel sasmisamde<br />
restornis daTvalierebac moaswro.<br />
ambobs: savse iyo darbazi<br />
mdidari qarTvelebiTo, musikosebi<br />
70-iani wlebis simRerebs mRerodneno.<br />
sufra ki, sufram namdvilad<br />
gaaoca. mimtanebi yovel<br />
wams amatebdnen axal-axal ker-<br />
Zebs.<br />
Tamadad “bosma” SatberaSvili<br />
daniSna. sosom sazeimod daloca<br />
didi germanuli politikis<br />
warmomadgenlebi. erTxmianma<br />
gaumarjo-m darbazi lamis Seazanzara.<br />
sapasuxod, martinic<br />
fexze adgomiT ambobs sadRegrZelos,<br />
cdilobs, Rimili damalos,<br />
ar unda sazeimo wuTebi gaafu-<br />
Wos. ramdenime winadadebis Semdeg<br />
Cumdeba – xedavs, rogori<br />
yuradRebiT usmens sufris Ti-<br />
Toeuli wevri, rogori sasoebiT<br />
uyureben. Semdeg statiaSi ambobs,<br />
vgrZnobdi, rom mqonda<br />
sityvis ufleba, Tavi marTla<br />
lideri megona da msiamovnebdao.<br />
stumrebic da maspinZlebic<br />
ukve SeTvrnen. ...da aq kidev er-<br />
Txel sTavazoben qalebs (amjerad<br />
rus gogoebs) da ukve 50 evrod.<br />
(ar dagaviwydeT, rom stumrebma<br />
kostiumebSi mxolod 49<br />
evro gadaixades). SatberaSvili<br />
Zalian daTvra, magram ar nebdeba.<br />
stumrebis sapativcemulod axali<br />
sasmeli moitana. ambobs, Cemi<br />
gamoxdili sasmeliao. sasmeli<br />
plastmasis mwvane boTlSi asxia<br />
da etiketis gareSea. mogexsenebaT,<br />
germanelebi etiketis gareSe<br />
arc sasmels ekarebian da arc<br />
saWmels. martin sonenborni: vuyurebdi<br />
Tamadas, cxvirs miwvavda<br />
sasmelis suni, cota movsvi. sasmelma<br />
skolis dros Catarebuli<br />
eqsperimentebi gamaxsena. (albaT,<br />
rame mJave-tutovan eqsperiments<br />
gulisxmobda. - avt). odnav movsvi,<br />
mivxvdi, ver davlevdi. vfiqrobdi,<br />
rogor amecilebina sasmisi<br />
Tavidan. rogorc ki movaxerxe,<br />
Wiqa zemoT aviqnie Zlierad<br />
da sasmeli kedels Sevasxi. ukan<br />
mixedvac aRar mindoda, megona,<br />
kedeli amomwvari damxvdeboda.<br />
SatberaSvili cota xanSi ukve<br />
skamze Semdgari ambobs<br />
sadRegrZelos. male ki stumrebic<br />
da maspinZlebic erTmaneTs<br />
ubodiSeben hitlerisa da stalinis<br />
politikis gamo da Tanxmdebian,<br />
rom msgavsi aRar unda ganmeordes.<br />
germaneli “lideri”, ambobs,<br />
meore dRes ver vixsenebdiT, rogor<br />
mivediT sastumroSio, ver<br />
gagvego, ratom eZina zogs iatakze<br />
da zogsac unitazze Sarval-<br />
Caxdilso.<br />
rasakvirvelia, vecade restoran<br />
“babiloni”-s menejerTan dakavSireba.<br />
eWvi mqonda, rom, iq<br />
kidev bevri ram moxdeboda saintereso,<br />
rac martinma an veRar<br />
gaixsena, an veRar Caatia statiaSi.<br />
“babilonis”-s menejerma gamomicxada:<br />
verc uarvyof da verc<br />
vadastureb, rom es Sexvedra am<br />
restoranSi moxda da saerTod,<br />
politikaSi ar verevio. me, rasakvirvelia,<br />
ar amixsnia menejerisTvis,<br />
rom am Sexvedras kavSiric<br />
ar hqonda politikasTan.<br />
ucnobia, rogor gagrZelda am<br />
ori “giganti” partiis TanamSromloba.<br />
faqtia, martini jer<br />
kidev ver movida xelisuflebaSi<br />
da dagvyara egre, evrokavSirSi<br />
saqmis “Cauwyoblad”.<br />
ra viswavle statiidan:<br />
1. rasac vxedav da vismen, yvelafers<br />
ar unda vendo gadaumowmeblad.<br />
2. satiras marTlac yvelaferi<br />
epatieba.<br />
3. jer kidev varT is qveyana,<br />
sadac adamians mxolod imitom<br />
vafasebT da vendobiT, rom is<br />
ucxoelia da axlaxan Camofrinda,<br />
evropis romelime qveynidan,<br />
an aSS-dan.<br />
4. aravis sWirdeba Cveni 15-<br />
evroiani qalebi. (nu, arc 40-<br />
iani)<br />
5. jer kidev ver gagvirkvevia,<br />
rom es is “ucxoelebi” ar arian,<br />
samnaxadi arayi rom uyvarT<br />
da Wiqa sasmisis Semdeg qalebs<br />
rom iTxoven.<br />
6. ar iTvleba pativiscemad<br />
stumris ise daTroba, rom mere<br />
SarvalCaxdils daeZinos unitazze.<br />
Tamuna keSelava
18 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
TbilisSi Tvla ara aqvs kazinoebsa<br />
da slotklubebs, Tanac, maT aSeneben<br />
yvelgan da ara erT konkretul<br />
sivrceSi. ra daskvna unda gamovitanoT<br />
aqedan? is, rom sazRvargareT<br />
uzneoba daSvebulia, magram waxalisebuli<br />
ar aris, saqarTveloSi ki daSvebulicaa<br />
da waxalisebulic. aba,<br />
sxva ra axsna moeZebneba im faqts,<br />
rom lamis yovel quCaze, yovel korpusTan<br />
saTamaSo dawesebulebaa gaxsnili?<br />
sainteresoa, am sakiTxSi ratom<br />
gadavuxvieT `mTavar magistralur<br />
xazs~ da ratom aqvs Cvens mimbaZvelobas<br />
aseTi calmxrivi xasiaTi?<br />
`gavkadnieredebi~ da vikiTxav: saer-<br />
Tod, ratomaa saTamaSo biznesi ase<br />
gafurCqnul-ayvavebuli? vis aZlevs<br />
es xels? an am biznesis lobistebis<br />
interesebi ratom dgas mTeli eris<br />
interesebze maRla? ra, suls rgebs<br />
amgvari garToba Tu sxeuls?<br />
eh, ra Tqma unda, amgvari SekiTxvebis<br />
dasma uazrobaa, radgan pasuxi<br />
isedac yvelam icis _ aralegaluri<br />
TamaSi kanoniT isjeba, legaluri ki<br />
_ ara, vinaidan biujetSi didZali<br />
Tanxa Sedis; cxadia, aseTi garToba<br />
arc suls rgebs da arc sxeuls, magram<br />
mainc nebadarTuli da waxalisebulia,<br />
vinaidan rgebs calkeuli adamianebis<br />
jibes da, aba, maT intereseb-<br />
Tan eris interesebi ra mosatania.<br />
amas rom uzneoba hqvia, es vis adardebs...<br />
yovel SemTxvevaSi, imaT ar<br />
adardebT, visac Zalaufleba gaaCniaT<br />
da Cveni qveynis `garemiqsebas~ ase gamalebiT<br />
cdiloben.<br />
... ki, magram Cven rom Cveni satkivari<br />
gvaqvs? Cven rom Tvalsa da<br />
xels Sua vcotavdebiT da vcocxldebiT?<br />
Cven rom mcirericxovani eri<br />
varT da sxvaze metad gviRirs TiToeuli<br />
moqalaqis sicocxle, fizikuri<br />
da moraluri sijansaRe? im sxvas,<br />
mravalricxovan ers, okeanec ver daaxrCobs,<br />
Cven ki SeiZleba wveTi mogverios,<br />
Sxamis erTi wveTi; SeiZleba<br />
gavqreT da mere vis Tvals gaaxarebs<br />
`ca-firuz, xmeleT-zurmuxti? _ isev<br />
da isev ritorikuli SekiTxvebi,<br />
romlebic, saubedurod, ZaRlis yefasTanaa<br />
gaigivebuli, qaravani ki arxeinad<br />
midis...<br />
am mzisqveSeTSi axali araferia<br />
da arc `yomarbazoba~ iyo saqarTvelosTvis<br />
ucxo xili, magram aseTi<br />
masStabi da oficialuri `xeldasxma~<br />
arasodes miuRia. es ukve avadmyofobaa<br />
_ ufro metic, fsiqologebisa da<br />
fsiqiatrebis did nawils azartuli<br />
TamaSebiT gataceba narkomaniis erTerT<br />
gamovlinebad miaCnia da zarebs<br />
arisxebs.<br />
rogor gadavrCeT, rogor davicvaT<br />
Tavi, roca am saSineli avadmyofobis<br />
bacilebi yvelganaa gabneuli<br />
da sworedac rom saxelmwifoebrivi<br />
politikis nawilia misi gavrceleba?!<br />
`daavadebulTa~ ricxvi geometriuli<br />
progresiiT izrdeba. azartuli Tama-<br />
Sebi erTnairad iTrevs gansxvavebuli<br />
sqesis, asakisa da socialuri wris<br />
warmomadgenlebs. ukve aRar gvikvirs,<br />
roca gavigebT, Tu rogor gayida ama<br />
Tu im qalbatonma saxli, rogor datova<br />
ojaxi quCaSi, rogori gaubedurebulia<br />
axla da a.S. ramdeni aseTi<br />
SemTxveva momxdara da aRarc ki gvaocebs.<br />
Tbilisi patara da Worikana<br />
qalaqia, TiTqmis yvelani vicnobT er-<br />
TmaneTs da guliTac rom gsurdes,<br />
verafers damalav, gansakuTrebiT ma-<br />
Sin, roca saqme popularul adamianebs<br />
exeba _ zemoxsenebul qalbaton-<br />
Ta Sorisac gamoeria ramdenime aseTi<br />
mandilosani, romlebsac, TiTqosda,<br />
araferi akldaT, araferi sWirdaT<br />
saimiso, rom ioli fulis maZiebel-<br />
Ta rigebs Sematebodnen, magram, faqtia,<br />
uZluri aRmoCndnen am senis winaSe<br />
(hoi, dedano, marad netarno~!...)<br />
eqimebi erTxmad amtkiceben, rom<br />
azartuli TamaSebis moyvaruls fsiqika<br />
engreva da misi gankurneba Zalian<br />
Znelia; am procesSi erTdroulad<br />
unda CaerTos medicina da eklesia,<br />
anu aucilebelia medikamentebis miReba,<br />
fsiqoTerapiuli seansebi da moZRvarTan<br />
urTierToba. rogorc wesi,<br />
moTamaSeebi ver acnobiereben TavianT<br />
mdgomareobas da, wamaldamokidebul-<br />
Ta msgavsad, miaCniaT, rom nebismier<br />
momentSi SeZleben SeCerebas. aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, isini arc mkurnalobaze<br />
Tanxmdebian... da gvian, Zalian gvian<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
visi suli gsurs...<br />
xvdebian TavianT Secdomebs. mxolod tikuri Sexedulebis dafiqsirebis ase ostaturad SeZlo biWma; daenana<br />
erTeulebs SeswevT imis Zala, rom<br />
realobas Tvali gausworon da gadarCenis<br />
gzebi eZebon _ es vaJkacobis<br />
tolfasia da udides nebisyofas<br />
moiTxovs. samwuxaroa, rom aseTi adamianebi<br />
mainc riskis zonaSi imyofebian,<br />
radgan sterilur garemos veravin<br />
SeuqmniT da sanam garemo ar Seicvleba,<br />
cdunebis safrTxec iarsebebs _ aq<br />
gamo daxocili da nawamebi axalgazrdebi?<br />
axla azartulma TamaSebma unda<br />
Seryvnas da daamaxinjos Cveni Svilebis<br />
suli _ ai, aseTi realobis<br />
winaSe vdgavarT: axla `aWarabeTma~,<br />
`evropabeTma~, `lasvegasma~ unda monusxos,<br />
fulis monad aqcios jer kidev<br />
Camouyalibebeli fsiqikis mqone<br />
gogo-biWebi; kazinoebma, slotklubebma,<br />
Tavisi rwmena, romelsac TaRliTobisa<br />
da sicruis gzaze Semdgarma misma<br />
erTaderTma Svilma ase daundoblad<br />
dascina _ es gacilebiT ufro faseuli<br />
iyo, vidre Tundac mTeli qveynis<br />
samkaulebi.<br />
... an im kacs rogor unda daexmaro,<br />
romelmac Tavis student vaJs<br />
arc medikamentebi daaklo da arc _<br />
ukve gamudmebuli TviTkontrolia<br />
kompiuterulma saTamaSo sai-<br />
fsiqoTerapevtis konsultaciebi; mo-<br />
saWiro.<br />
xSiria saubari e.w. Canacvlebis<br />
meqanizmze, rac imiT gamoixateba, rom<br />
moTamaSes, romelsac TamaSis procesi<br />
udides siamovnebas aniWebs, raime<br />
sxva saxis alternatiul `siamovnebas~<br />
sTavazoben. marTlac, bevri amtkicebs,<br />
rom siamovnebis misaRebad TamaSobs<br />
da ara fulis mosagebad, Tumca<br />
piradad CemTvis gaugebaria aseT<br />
SemTxvevaSi ra unda SesTavazo Semoqmed<br />
adamians; mas xom iseT siamovnebaze<br />
miuwvdeba xeli, rogoricaa<br />
SemoqmedebiTi procesi, Tuki sityvas-<br />
Tan, ferTan, melodiasTan urTierTobis<br />
sixaruli ar akmayofilebs da<br />
isev TamaSisken miuwevs guli, maSin<br />
rogorRa unda daexmaro, ukeTesi ra<br />
unda ganacdevino?! arada, faqtia, rom<br />
am mxriv araerTi mwerali, mxatvari<br />
Tu msaxiobi saWiroebs daxmarebas _<br />
es is xalxia, romelsac veravin daswamebs<br />
sulier siRatakes, uinteleqtobas,<br />
tebma unda daaviwyos maT swavla,<br />
ojaxis wevrebisa da axloblebis siynasterSic<br />
Tavad aiyvana da moZRvars<br />
Caabara garkveuli xniT, magram es<br />
interesebis calmxrivobas.<br />
samwuxarod, rogorc ukve aRvniSne,<br />
es saSineli seni erTnairad ereva da<br />
imorCilebs niWiersa Tu uniWos, xelovansa<br />
Tu obivatels, gaunaTlebelsa<br />
Tu inteleqtuals. swored<br />
amiTaa igi Zalze saSiSi _ im iaraRs<br />
hgavs, romelsac Cveni eris sindiss,<br />
gonebas, SemoqmedebiT potencials<br />
umizneben. ramdeni aseTi iaraRia Cvenze<br />
moRerebuli, mkiTxvelo? ramdeni<br />
danaRmuli mindori unda gadaviaroT,<br />
an gadavivliT ki? kidev ra `plastikuri<br />
operaciebi~ unda Cautardes<br />
Cveni cxovrebisa da azrovnebis wess,<br />
rom Tanamedrove demokratiis mamebma<br />
civilizebul erad gvcnon da `foCiani<br />
kanfetebi~ gviboZon? bedis ukuRmarTobas<br />
ra vuTxari, Torem visvisgan<br />
ra eswavleba, es jer kidev gasarkvevia.<br />
samagierod, absoluturad<br />
garkveulia, ris fasad dagvijdeba<br />
zemoxsenebuli `kamfetebi~...<br />
axla `pirvelsa sityvasa movideT~<br />
_ gana gvyavs dasakargi axalgazrdebi?<br />
gana isedac bevri ar davkargeT<br />
bolo 20 wlis ganmavlobaSi?<br />
afxazeTsa da samaCabloSi datrialebuli<br />
tragediebi, 2008 wlis agvistos<br />
msxverpli ar kmara? sakmarsi ar<br />
aris, rom gvyavs gansxvavebuli poli-<br />
varuli, gulidan unda amourecxos<br />
yovelive adamianuri. amaze uaresi ra-<br />
Ra unda iyos _ TiToeuli maTgani,<br />
xom saqarTvelos akldeba, TiToeuli<br />
maTganis ukan xom gaubedurebuli, sasowarkveTili<br />
mSoblebi dganan, romlebmac<br />
aRar ician, ra qnan, rogor<br />
uSvelon Svilebs da sakuTar Tavs. am<br />
axalgazrdebis didi nawili, roca<br />
mSoblebis ndobas kargavs da maTgan<br />
saWiro Tanxas veRar iRebs, nair-nair<br />
zRaprebs Txzavs, gulisamaCuyebel<br />
istoriebs igonebs, romlebic, TiTqosda,<br />
mas an mis megobrebs gadaxda<br />
Tavs, ararsebuli saSiSroebis Sesaxeb<br />
yveba _ mizani isaa, rom ojaxis<br />
wevrebi rogorme daarwmunos Tavis<br />
simarTleSi, nanatri fuli miiRos da<br />
iTamaSos, iTamaSos, isev iTamaSos...<br />
saocrad cbierni xdebian, moxerxebulad<br />
manipulireben mSoblebis,<br />
naTesavebisa Tu axloblebis adamianuri<br />
sisusteebiT; kargad hyavT Seswavlili<br />
isini da zustad ician, vis raze<br />
auCuydeba guli, vis raze `wamoageben~.<br />
ise ostaturad floben sicruis<br />
`xelovnebas~, rom xSirad Zalian<br />
Wirs maTi namdvili saxis danaxva.<br />
mkiTxvelo, ramdeni aseTi SemTxveva<br />
ici? ramdenjer aRSfoTebulxar,<br />
ramdenjer gtkenia sxvisi satkivari?<br />
ar vici, am dros rogor unda anuge-<br />
So sasowarkveTili adamiani _ rogor<br />
unda daexmaro qals, romelsac<br />
mTeli weli sjeroda, rom misi 17<br />
wlis vaJi Seyvarebuls xvdeboda, gogonas<br />
fotoebic ki aCvena, uyveboda<br />
masTan dakavSirebul istoriebs,<br />
iTxovda rCevas, pirdeboda, dRe-dReze<br />
gagacnobo; bolos ki, roca saxlidan<br />
qalis arcTu mravalricxovani<br />
samkaulebi<br />
gaqra qorwinebis beWdis<br />
CaTvliT, Svilma ki utifrad<br />
gamoucxada, _`imas~<br />
vaCuqeo, dedam Seityo,<br />
rom aranairi Seyvarebuli<br />
ar arsebobda, misi biWi ki<br />
slotklubebis yoveldRiuri<br />
stumari iyo. ara,<br />
qals namdvilad ar dananebia<br />
lombardSi Cabarebuli<br />
Zvirfaseuloba, mas<br />
Svilis dasaxiCrebuli<br />
suli daenana, is ararsebuli<br />
lamazi grZnoba daenana,<br />
romlis gaTamaSebac<br />
yvelaferi `mglis Tavze saxarebis<br />
kiTxva~ aRmoCnda: monastridan dabrunebuli,<br />
RvTis madls `naziarebi~ bi-<br />
Wi ukve Ramesac aRar aTevda Sin, arc<br />
rekavda, aTasSi erTxel tansacmlis<br />
gamosacvlelad Semoirbenda xolme<br />
saxeSeSlili da aRrenili, lanZRvaginebiT<br />
iklebda mSoblebsa da moxuc<br />
bebias, misi wasvlis Semdeg ki ojaxidan<br />
erTmaneTis moyolebiT qreboda<br />
nivTebi. kacma Tavidan veraferi Seam-<br />
Cnia, radgan rZal-dedamTili mis<br />
uCumrad yidda WurWelsa da Zvirfaseulobas,<br />
magram yvelafers mixvda,<br />
roca saxlidan gaitanes Zveleburi<br />
WaRi, magida, kompiuteri, kedlis saaTi...<br />
mere naTesavebmac daurekes, zogierTma<br />
maTganma pirdapir miaxala,<br />
zogierTma ki mianiSna, _ qalebi Tavze<br />
dagasxdnen da mixedeo. Turme, yvela<br />
CamouvliaT, kacis saxeliT fuli<br />
uTxoviaT _ SimSiliT vwydebiT da<br />
gviSveleTo. ramdenjer gaumarTes xeli,<br />
magram, mogexsenebaT, tyuils<br />
mokle fexi aqvs, bolos naTesavebmac<br />
Seityves simarTle da xelcarieli<br />
gamoistumres morig jerze misuli<br />
rZal-dedamTili, Tanac uTxres, _<br />
sircxvilia, is kaci mainc SeicodeT,<br />
saxels nu utexT, mTeli cxovreba<br />
swored imitom idgams welebze fexs,<br />
rom ojaxs arc moSivdes da arc<br />
mowyurdes, Tqveni saqcieliTa da<br />
sityvebiT ki cocxlad debT miwaSio.<br />
amasobaSi biWi universitetidan garicxes<br />
gacdenebis gamo, mamamisma rogorRac<br />
daazusta misi adgil-samyofeli<br />
_ Turme, `aWarabeTSi~ aTenebda<br />
da aRamebda. colisa da dedis mier<br />
TavmoyvareobaSelaxulma, dardisagan<br />
ganadgurebulma kacma Svili Sin moaTria<br />
da is iyo, dagrovili boRmis<br />
amonTxevas apirebda, rom biWma mSvidad<br />
ganacxada, _ Tu sam dReSi `Tavani~<br />
ar Cavabare, momklaven da gain-<br />
Zerio; Tanxis raodenobac daasaxela.<br />
kacma umweo mzera Seavlo dacarielebul<br />
binas da gaJeJili xmiT Cailaparaka,<br />
_ Svilo, me Tu gamyidi, ar<br />
vici, gasayidi aRaraferi datove, dedaSenma<br />
da bebiaSenma ki yvelasTan<br />
Tavi moiWres da erT TeTrsac aravin<br />
gvasesxebs, xom xedav, keTrovaniviT<br />
mogviZules da aRarc gvkiTxulobeno.<br />
_ Sens gayidvaSi ra yria, Zvali ar<br />
iWmeva Seni da xorci, rodis ra gagikeTebia<br />
CemTvis, rom axla morals<br />
mikiTxavo _ iyo gapirutyvebuli Svilis<br />
pasuxi. swored am momentSi daartya<br />
insultma _ mas mere wevs,<br />
TiTqmis veRar moZraobs, metyvelebis<br />
unaric dakarguli aqvs; axla marTla<br />
SiaT da swyuriaT, mkurnalobaze xom<br />
laparakic zedmetia, biWi aravis mouklavs,<br />
magram sadRac gadaikarga.<br />
wevs kaci da natrobs sikvdils, an im<br />
dRes, roca ukve ipoTekiT datvirTuli<br />
binidan sawolianad gaitanen Tanxis<br />
gadauxdelobis gamo, Tumca, Seqmnili<br />
mdgomareobidan gamomdinare,<br />
albaT, sikvdili urCevnia.<br />
uamravi aseTi istoriis gaxseneba<br />
SeiZleba. mxolod RmerTma uwyis,<br />
ramdeni gaubedurebuli mSoblis insulti,<br />
infarqti, gaRatakeba Tu<br />
TviTmkvlelobaa azartuli moTamaSeebis<br />
kiserze; ramdeni ojaxia Ria cis<br />
qveS darCenili da sicocxlemoZulebuli;<br />
ramdeni coli, qmari, deda Tu<br />
Svilia erTmaneTze samkvdro-sasicocxlod<br />
gadakidebuli imis gamo,<br />
rom erT-erT maTgans arasworad esmis<br />
Svilisa Tu SviliSvilis siyvaruli<br />
da daTvur samsaxurs uwevs<br />
mas. vin daicavs gaubedurebul mSoblebs<br />
sakuTari Svilebisagan? an Tavad<br />
maT vin daicavs, sakuTari nebisyofis<br />
garda? nebisyofa ki, mogexsenebaT,<br />
xSirad zrdasrul, Camoyalibebuli<br />
fsiqikis mqone adamianebsac Ralatobs,<br />
aramcTu axalgazrdebs _<br />
maT xom jer kidev uWirT TeTrisa<br />
daSavis garCeva, `mindasa~ da `SesaZlebels~<br />
Soris zRvaris gavleba, roca<br />
fuls veRaravis sZalaven, arc<br />
kriminalze ixeven ukan, an e.w. moralur<br />
SantaJs mimarTaven, TviTmkvlelobiT<br />
imuqrebian. isic faqtia, rom<br />
xSirad asruleben am muqaras da<br />
axalgazrdebs Soris TviTmkvleloba-<br />
Ta 98 procenti swored azartul<br />
moTamaSeebze modis. raRa unda iyos<br />
amaze uaresi? kidev ra saSineleba<br />
unda dagvemarTos, rom keTili vineboT<br />
da mivbaZoT, Tundac, baqos, sadac<br />
arc erTi saTamaSo dawesebuleba<br />
aRar arsebobs? an, iqneb, vinmem gaiziaros<br />
aseTi gulubryvilo mosazreba<br />
(saswaulebic xom xdeba zogjer):<br />
Sewydes mogebuli fulis gacema.<br />
xom amtkicebs moTamaSeTa sakmaod<br />
didi nawili, rom maTi mizani mogeba<br />
ki ar aris, aramed _ TamaSis procesiT<br />
siamovnebis miReba. hoda, mibrZandnen,<br />
batonebo, iTamaSon, isiamovnon,<br />
datkbnen mozRvavebuli adrenaliniT,<br />
wagebuli Tanxa gadaixadon, mogebuli<br />
ki darCes kazinosa Tu slotklubSi<br />
da socialurad daucveli adamianebis<br />
problemebis mogvarebas moxmardes _<br />
vnaxoT, iqneb aman, Seamciros moTama-<br />
SeTa ricxvi, Tan meore keTili saqmec<br />
gakeTdeba... eh!<br />
mkiTxvelo, sruliadac ara maqvs<br />
da arc SeiZleba mqondes vinmes damoZRvris<br />
pretenzia. ubralod, am weriliT<br />
Cemi gulistkivili, gavaxmovane,<br />
guli ki, darwmunebuli var, yvelas<br />
Zalian gvtkiva, radgan zemoTxsenebulma<br />
senma ukve sakmaod bevri<br />
adamiani daRupa fizikurad Tu sulierad<br />
da ar viciT, kidev visi suli<br />
surs.<br />
nino sixaruliZe
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
nacionalebs qveynis sportuli<br />
imiji ar ainteresebT _<br />
revanSze arian gadasuli...<br />
interviu olimpiur CempionTan,<br />
deputatobis kandidatTan, koalicia<br />
`qarTuli ocnebidan~ SoTa xabarelTan.<br />
SoTa xabareli: daibada 1958<br />
wlis 26 dekembers, qarelis raionis<br />
sofel ZlevisjvarSi. daamTavra<br />
saqarTvelos saxelmwifo fizkulturis<br />
instituti da Tsu iuridiuli<br />
fakulteti. aris evropis gunduri<br />
Cempioni, evropisa da msoflios<br />
Cempionatebis priziori. sportuli<br />
karieris dasrulebis Semdeg<br />
samwvrTnelo samuSaoebzea. muSaobda<br />
saqarTvelos nakrebis mTavar<br />
mwvrTnelad. misi xelmZRvanelobiT<br />
qarTvelma Ziudoistebma moipoves<br />
olimpiuri, msofliosa da evropis<br />
Cempionatebi. zedized orjer aRiares<br />
evropisa da planetis saukeTeso<br />
gundis mwvrTnelad.<br />
_ batono SoTa, modiT, visaubroT<br />
sportsa da politikaze. ufro<br />
zustad, xelisuflebisa da sportsmenebis<br />
urTierTobaze, romelmac<br />
dRes erTob mZime viTarebamde mogviyvana.<br />
gavixsenoT Tundac axlaxan<br />
londonis olimpiadaze momxdari incidenti.<br />
_ marTali xarT, Zalian mZime<br />
viTarebaa. araerTxel miTqvams, rom<br />
dRes qarTuli sporti politizebulia.<br />
samwuxarod,<br />
sporti ukve sports aRar<br />
hgavs, sul sxva funqcia SeiZina.<br />
saubedurod, Cvens zogierT<br />
aTlets zonderebad<br />
iyeneben, es imas niSnavs, rom<br />
sportis moyvarulebisTvis<br />
sayvareli adamianebi zonderbrigadebSi<br />
gadadian da upirispirdebian<br />
maT, vinc xarobda<br />
maTi warmatebebiT.<br />
samwuxaroa kidev erTi garemoebac,<br />
rom amas Tavisi iniciativiTki ara,<br />
viRacis davalebiT akeTeben. politika<br />
xSirad aris SeWrili sport-<br />
Si. naxeT, vin xelmZRvanelobs sportul<br />
federaciebs da aqedan gamoCndeba<br />
yvelaferi. londonis olimpiadaze<br />
beTqil SukvanTan dakavSirebuli<br />
incidenti politikas ukavSirdeba.<br />
axalgazrda kacma gamoxata Tavisi<br />
simpaTiebi batoni biZina ivaniSvilisadmi<br />
da amis gamo mtrad Seracxes,<br />
iyo gineba, gariyes gundidan<br />
da ra vici, kidev ra. mokled, es<br />
iyo ukiduresi sibinZure, sxva sityvas<br />
ver vuZebni mis mimarT Cadenil<br />
saqciels. Seni gundis wevrs, romelsac<br />
sxva azri gaaCnia, rogor<br />
SeiZleba Seracxo mtrad, garicxo<br />
gundidan da aseT mdgomareobaSi Caagdo.<br />
Tumca msgavsi SemTxvevebi adrec<br />
yofila zurab zviadauris,<br />
kaxi kalaZis mimarTac, Tundac<br />
Cemi SemTxveva gavixsenoT.<br />
_ davubrundeT londonSi<br />
momxdar incidents. ucxoelebi<br />
xom gaigebdnen, rogor wamovida<br />
inglisidan Sukvani, rogor<br />
imoqmedebs es faqti saqarTvelos<br />
imijze?<br />
_ TavisTavad cxadia, uaryofiTad<br />
imoqmedebs. ucxoelebs<br />
ver warmoudgeniaT, rom udidesi<br />
sportsmeni politikuri<br />
niSniT gaaTavisuflon samsaxuridan!<br />
beTqili erT-erTi favoritia<br />
Tavis wonaSi, Tavisuflad<br />
SeeZlo oqros medlisTvis<br />
brZola, magram ise mouSales<br />
nervebi, iseTi zewolebi ganaxorcieles,<br />
rom orTabrZolebze aRelvebuli<br />
gavida. Cvenive qveynis warmomadgenlebma,<br />
darwmunebuli var, ise<br />
Cauwyves saqme, mosalodneli iyo saerTod<br />
umedlod darCeniliyo. ar<br />
undodaT misi sportuli warmateba,<br />
radgan ambobda: gamarjvebas `qar-<br />
Tul ocnebas~ mivuZRvnio. am xalxs<br />
qveynis imiji ar ainteresebT, revan-<br />
Sze arian gadasuli. sporti saer-<br />
Tod calke darCa, calke darCnen<br />
sportsmenebi da calke aris nacionaluri<br />
moZraoba. sporti xalxs unda<br />
emsaxurebodes, magram maT ainteresebT,<br />
ar dakargon gavlena sportsmenebze<br />
da amiTac Seuwyon xeli<br />
TavisTvis skamebis SenarCunebas. es<br />
aris nacionalebis mizani. amisTvis<br />
midis brZola. qveynis interesebi da<br />
sportsmenebis warmatebebi magaTTvis<br />
araa mniSvnelovani.<br />
simarTle giTxraT, informacia<br />
mec mxolod presidan maqvs. rogorc<br />
vici, evropis Cempionatis Sedegebi<br />
gaiTvaliswines, magram es iyo oTxi<br />
Tvis win gundis dakompleqtebas<br />
mTavari mwvrTneli wyvets, magram<br />
unda gaeTvaliswinebinaT iraklis<br />
gamocdileba saerTaSoriso sarbielze.<br />
axla CemTvis Soridan Znelia<br />
saubari.<br />
_ batono SoTa, olimpiadamde<br />
CvenTan saubarSi TqviT, rom Tu vinme<br />
gaxdeba Cempioni, mxolod bunebrivi<br />
niWis wyalobiTo. ra niSniT<br />
SeirCa saqarTvelos olimpiuri nakrebi?<br />
_ Cveni olimpiuri Cempioni la-<br />
Sa SavdaTuaSvili, es bavSvi RmerTma<br />
daifara, rom ar moxvda im orwlian<br />
samwvrTnelo procesSi, rasac<br />
avstrieli specialisti atarebda.<br />
rasac adre vambobdi, rom davkargavdiT<br />
im potencials, rac hqondaT<br />
Cvens Ziudoistebs. samwuxarod, gamarTlda.<br />
bevri kargi biWi davkargeT.<br />
SavdaTuaSvili bolo sami Tve<br />
SeuerTdaT da ver moaswres misi gadawva<br />
da imitomac gaxda olimpiuri<br />
Cempioni. yvela moWidaves etyoboda,<br />
rom acdenili iyvnen sportul piks.<br />
samwuxarod, naadrevad Sevidnen<br />
formaSi da olimpiadisTvis ukve<br />
daRmasvla daewyoT. aseTi mniSvnelovani<br />
aspa<strong>rezo</strong>bis win romeli<br />
WkuaTmyofeli moawyobs Sejibrs da<br />
Tan sad _ samxreT amerikaSi! aseTi<br />
moqmedebebi CemTvis miuRebelia. xangrZlivi<br />
mgzavroba, Tanxebis umiznod<br />
xarjva, usamarTloa. uamravi<br />
Tanxebia gaxarjuli uazro voiaJeb-<br />
Si. Cven gvaqvs unikaluri kurortebi,<br />
xom SeiZleboda aq momzadeba da<br />
Tanxebis aq daxarjva, miTufro Tu<br />
aseT fatalur Sedegs miviRebT. jer<br />
kidev SarSan vambobdi, rom avstriel<br />
specialists ar aqvs erovnuli<br />
nakrebis momzadebis gamocdileba,<br />
magram ar damijeres da miviReT is,<br />
rac gvaqvs.<br />
_ ramdenadac viciT, cirekiZe<br />
`qarTuli ocnebis~ mimarT simpaTiebiT<br />
aris ganwyobili es xom ar gaxda<br />
mizezi londonSi misi arwayvanis?<br />
_ amasac ar gamovricxav, radgan<br />
ramdenjerme gaiJRera misma gvarma<br />
`qarTuli ocnebis~ mimarT, albaT,<br />
aqvs simpaTiebi, es gaxda viRacebis-<br />
Tvis cnobili da SeiZleba, esec iyo<br />
mizezi.<br />
_ gamodis, isev politikasTan<br />
mivdivarT.<br />
_ amas axla ver davamtkiceb,<br />
magram xmebi usafuZvlod ar vrceldeba,<br />
esec unda vivaraudoT, rom vi-<br />
Racebma dablokes. kidev erTs getyviT,<br />
rac udaod sainteresoa, ratom<br />
moxda, rom arCevnebis win olimpiur<br />
TamaSebze Cveni gamoCenili veterani<br />
sportsmenebi waiyvanes. icodnen,<br />
rom ramdenime sportsmeni apirebda<br />
Tavisi azris dafiqsirebas da amitom<br />
waiyvanes londonSi. ratom ar<br />
mihyavdaT wina olimpiadebze Cveni<br />
veteranebi. esec aris dakavSirebuli<br />
politikasTan da saqme gvaqvs, garkveulwilad,<br />
mosyidvasTan. am adamianebs<br />
ekuTvniT dafaseba, magram raRa<br />
arCevnebis win gaaxsendaT. 130 sportsmeni<br />
`qarTuli ocnebis~ mxardam-<br />
Weria. isinic, vinc londonis olimpiadaze<br />
iyvnen, vici, bevri SemouerTdeba<br />
`qarTul ocnebas~.<br />
_ Tqven weRan kaxi kalaZis<br />
jarima axseneT. risi gulisTvis<br />
ajarimeben, sakuTari fuli<br />
rom daxarja?<br />
_ aseTi ram ar gamigia,<br />
rogor SeiZleba aseTi formiT<br />
daupirispirde im adamians,<br />
romelmac Cveni qveyana msoflios<br />
gaacno. gansxvavebuli<br />
azris gamo mtrad unda gamoacxado?<br />
amaze xalxma unda<br />
amoiRos xma. ras akeTebs saerTaSoriso<br />
sazogadoeba?!<br />
_ kaxis megobari andrei SevCenkoc<br />
midis politikaSi, magram masze<br />
zewolis faqtebi ar gagvigia.<br />
_ rac CvenTan, saqarTveloSi<br />
xdeba, msoflioSi ar arsebobs. prezidenti<br />
rom ityvis _ meti saqme<br />
ara maqvs qveyana CagabaroTo, raze<br />
unda vilaparakoT, TiTqos qveyana<br />
misi sakuTreba iyos. imisTvis avir-<br />
CieT, emsaxuros qveyanas, magram...<br />
_ rogor fiqrobT, Cveni sportsmenebi<br />
gauZleben zewolas?<br />
_ sportsmenebi vaJkacebi arian,<br />
yvelafers gauZleben, yvelafers Tavis<br />
saxels daarqmeven. vici maTi<br />
ganwyoba. kargad xedaven, ra sibinZurec<br />
aris da TavianT poziciebs male<br />
daafiqsireben.<br />
gia burduli<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
miuxedavad mowinave da avtoritetuli saer-<br />
TaSoriso organzaciebis, hilari klintonis gancxadebisa,<br />
rom saxelisuflebo mmarTvelma partiam<br />
maqsimalurad unda SezRudos saarCevno<br />
kampaniasa da uSualod arCevnebze sajaro seqtoris<br />
resursis gamoyeneba, nacionalebi amas arad<br />
dagideven da Riad agrZeleben Cveuli meTodebis<br />
gamoyenebas.<br />
kuluaruli informaciiT cnobili gaxda, rom<br />
saxelmwifo struqturebisaTvis (xelmZRvanelebisaTvis)<br />
`nacverxuSkis~ mier gacemulia direqtiva,<br />
TanamSromelTa zafxulis periodSi gaSvebis<br />
Taobaze TanamSromlebs xelmZRvanelebi pirdapir<br />
eubnebian, rom SezRudvebi politikurad<br />
cxeli zafxuliTaa nakarnaxevi. Tu vinmes mainc<br />
eRirseba dasveneba, mxolod ramodenime dRiT. sajaro<br />
mosamsaxureTa beds gaiziareben xelisuflebasTan<br />
daaxloebuli an maTze damokidebuli<br />
arasamTavrobo organizaciebi da dawesebulebebi.<br />
samagierod, samsaxurebSi CarCenilebs uxvad<br />
sworeba arCevnebze<br />
_ SvebulebebSi<br />
aravin gauSvaT,<br />
sagangaSo<br />
mdgomareobaa!<br />
hpirdebian arCevnebis warmatebiT Cavlis (visTvis<br />
rogor) SemTxvevaSi, oqtomber-noemberSi masobriv<br />
`amnistias~ kuTvnilze dReebis damatebia,<br />
premialuri Tanxebis gacemisa da Tu saWiroeba<br />
moiTxovs, uxelfaso Svebulebebis micemasac.<br />
informaciis pirvelwyaroebs mizezebis gamo<br />
ver davasaxelebT. erT-erTi amgvari inkognito<br />
respondentis gancxadebiT, rodesac ufrosma TanamSromlebs<br />
SezRudvebis Sesaxeb amcno, CvenTan<br />
mosaubris kolegam zemdgoms Sehbeda _ me Svebuleba<br />
kanoniT mekuTvnis, ratom ar maZlevTo. pasuxad<br />
ki ufrosma kbilebSi gamoscra, _ ra gekuTvnis<br />
da ra ara Sromis kodeqsSi weria da<br />
Sig Caixedeo.<br />
Cvens dawyevlil SromiT kanonSi ki weria,<br />
rom damqiravebels ufleba aqvs daqiravebuls ar<br />
misces (gadayva) kuTvnili Svebuleba. erTi da<br />
igive samuSaos SemsrulebelTagan (brigada, jgufi<br />
da a.S.) Tavisi Sexedulebisamebr waaxalisos<br />
pirovnebebi materialurad da rac yvelaze mTavaria,<br />
survilisamebr, yovelgvari dasabuTebisa<br />
da argumentaciis gareSe gaanTavisuflos Tanam-<br />
Sromeli, (winaswari gafrTxilebis gareSe) mar-<br />
Talia, amgvar batonymur kanonmdeblobas dasavleTSi<br />
uamravi kritikosi hyavs, magram vard-eklovanebs<br />
es sulac ar adardebT.<br />
arsebul socialur-ekonomikur pirobebSi<br />
samsaxuris dakargvis perspeqtiva yvelasTvis miuRebelia.<br />
amis gamo ukanono SezRudvebze xalxi<br />
xmas ar iRebs, vin icis, rogor ganviTardeba<br />
qveyanaSi politikuri movlenebi. ase ki momaval<br />
wels saprezidento, Semdgom ki adgilobrivi<br />
TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebia, gamodis, rom arsebobs<br />
albaToba xalxis 3 weli daZabul, stresul<br />
mdgomareobaSi yofnisa.<br />
zaza<br />
bilixoZe<br />
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20 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
mogzauroba samSobloSi<br />
vis vutovebT<br />
aqaurobas?..<br />
tye-javaxeTi<br />
sirgvis samxreTiT javaxeTis<br />
erT-erTi yvelaze cnobili sofeli<br />
baraleTia. igi, ZiriTadad, amave saxelwodebis<br />
mdinaris marcxena sanapirozea<br />
gaSenebuli. vidre istoriul<br />
sabuTebs SevexebodeT, manamde<br />
aq Cawerili is legenda unda<br />
gadmogceT, romelic javaxeTis am<br />
monakveTSi, Zvel droSi, tyis arsebobas<br />
adasturebs.<br />
erTxel sofelze momdgar<br />
mters taZris oqros gumbaTi daunaxavs<br />
Soridan. mis elvarebas momxvduris<br />
xarbi Tvali daubrmavebia.<br />
jaris winamZRols gumbaTis waReba<br />
ubrZanebia, magram gaxiznul sofelSi<br />
erTi berikacis garda veravin<br />
unaxavT, rom eklesiamde mimavali<br />
biliki eswavlebina. berikaci<br />
ar gamomtydara, ris gamoc wamebiT<br />
mouklavT. bevrs cdila momxvduri,<br />
rom biliki Tavad aRmoeCina, magram<br />
amaod. maSin winamZRols tyis gadawva<br />
ubZanebia da ganZi ase Caugdia<br />
xelT. cecxli, ra Tqma unda,<br />
gavrcelebula da odesRac usieri<br />
tye, Turme, 7 weli xrColavda.<br />
mxolod aqa-iq gadarCenila patarpatara<br />
koromebi. ioli SesaZlebelia,<br />
rom legendas safuZvlad<br />
edos 914 wels abul-kasimis laSqroba<br />
saqarTveloSi, roca Tmogvis<br />
cixesTan xelmocaruli azerbaijanis<br />
arabi amira gansakuTrebuli sisastikiT<br />
gausworda danarCen javaxeTs.<br />
legendas rom realuri safuZveli<br />
aqvs da mcire koromebi<br />
XVI saukunemde arsebobda, amas<br />
`gurjistanis vilaieTis didi dav-<br />
TriT~ damowmebuli termini tyejavaxeTic<br />
adasturebs. imis gamo,<br />
rom tye-javaxeTi zRvis donidan<br />
1600 metrze maRlaa, mecnierTa varaudiT,<br />
aqauri tye mxolod aryi-<br />
Ta da fiWviT unda yofiliyo warmodgenili,<br />
magram sad gaveqceT im<br />
faqts, rom araTu baraleTSi, aramed<br />
masze gacilebiT maRla mdebare<br />
azavreTSi da sxva soflebSi<br />
xexilis erTi jgufi xarobs?!...<br />
baraleTSi, bunebrivia, xili<br />
Semosavlis wyaro ver iqneba. aq,<br />
iseve rogorc mTel javaxeTSi,<br />
soflis meurneobis ZiriTad dargad<br />
kartofilis kultura iTvleba,<br />
romelmac araTu adrindeli<br />
marcvleuli kulturebi, mesaqonleobac<br />
ki meore adgilze gadawia.<br />
uxvi mosavlis mTavari garantia aq<br />
mdinaridan Semoyvanili sarwyavi<br />
arxebia.<br />
sofelSi amJamad 245 komli<br />
mosaxlea, romelTagan didi umetesoba<br />
somxobaa, qarTveloba ki mxolod<br />
40 komlia. mosaxleobis ase-<br />
Ti Tanafardobis mizezi, erTi<br />
mxriv, Cveni uyuradRebobis gamo<br />
qarTvelebis sagrZnobi nawilis ayraa,<br />
meores mxriv ki XIX saukunis<br />
20-ian wlebSi erzerumeli somxebis<br />
Camosaxleba mTavarmarTebul<br />
paskeviCis mecadineobiT. garda amisa,<br />
rogorc varaudoben, somexTa<br />
mcire nawili aq daviT aRmaSenebelsac<br />
hyavs moyvanili anisis aRebis<br />
Semdeg, roca man baraleTi mcire<br />
savaWro qalaqad aqcia. amis er-<br />
Ti gviandeli iribi sabuTic arsebobs.<br />
vaxuSti batoniSvilis naSromSi<br />
naTqvamia: `ars baraleTi<br />
mcire qalaqi, mosaxleni arian mesxni,<br />
somexni, uriani vaWarni~.<br />
sofelSi ori eklesia da ori<br />
skolaa. daviwyoT eklesiebiT. somxuri<br />
taZari mxolod XIX saukunisaa,<br />
rac imaze migvaniSnebs, rom<br />
daviT aRmaSeneblis Camosaxlebuli<br />
somxebis STamomavlebi qarTveleb-<br />
Tan erTad erT eklesiaSi loculobdnen.<br />
SeiZleba, rom am dros<br />
qarTul-diofizitur da somxur<br />
monofizitur eklesiaTa Soris arsebul<br />
gansxvavebaze javaxeTSi<br />
mcxovrebi somxebi saubars ver bedavdnen,<br />
anda sulac marTlmadideblebad<br />
iyvnen moqceulni. mere da<br />
mere somxebma mainc Tavi<br />
gamoamJRavnes. cnobilia,<br />
rom laSa-giorgis dros<br />
qarTul da somxur eklesiaTa<br />
Soris VII saukunidan<br />
arsebuli dapirispireba<br />
javaxeTs gadmoswvda, es<br />
Zalian naTlad da xatovnad<br />
ioane batoniSvils<br />
aqvs aRwerili `kalmasobis~ srul<br />
variantSi. mRvdelmTavrebs Soris<br />
gamarTuli kamaTi maSin qarTvelTa<br />
gamarjvebiT dasrulda, magram, SeiZleba,<br />
somxebs calke locvis Catarebis<br />
nebarTva mainc darTes. amaze<br />
mxolod eWviT SeiZleba saubari,<br />
eWvs ki baraleTis Zveli eklesia<br />
badebs. RvTismSoblis es ornaviani<br />
saydari imaze migvaniSnebs,<br />
rom misi mTavari darbazi ufro<br />
Zvelia, vidre samxreTisa.<br />
ori darbazis gammijnavi<br />
tlanqi, gaxsnili<br />
samTaRedi imdenad uxerxulad<br />
aris SeWrili<br />
mTavari sakurTxevlis<br />
naxevarwreSi, rom Zneli<br />
mereniis wyaro, mis kedelSi Casmuli<br />
wm. giorgis bareliefi da somxuri eklesiis zeZirkvelSi Cadgmuli Zveli qva-jvari<br />
warmosadgenia, orive<br />
darbazi erTdroulad da<br />
erTi xuroTmoZRvris mier<br />
iyos agebuli. Zveli<br />
ostati amas ar iqmda. swored es<br />
badebs eWvs, rom samxreTis gviandeli<br />
darbazi gansxvavebuli mrevlis<br />
RvTismsaxurebisTvis aigo. ase<br />
rom, taZris aRmosavleT fasadze,<br />
lavgardanis qveS, moTavsebuli<br />
qarTuli asomTavruli warweris<br />
pirveli sityva `aReSena~ rekonstruqcias<br />
unda aRniSnavdes da ara<br />
balavris dadebas. amis magaliTebi<br />
sxvaganac bevrgan gvxvdeba.<br />
warwera aseTia: `aReSena eklesiai<br />
ese maT JamTa, odes laSa mefed<br />
dajda, adiden orTave cxovrebaTa<br />
Sina, saydarsa...~ teqsti imitom<br />
aRar grZeldeba, rom meore<br />
tyupiscali qva aRar arsebobs kedelSi.<br />
es ukve gviandeli SekeTebis<br />
bralia.<br />
XIX saukuneSi mosul erzerumel<br />
somxebs erTxans taZris samxreTi<br />
navi gamoyenebiaT salocavad<br />
da zed mcire samrekloc Semoud-<br />
nineli ananiaSvili da baraleTis saydari<br />
(interieri, mcire qva-jvrebi da samxreT-aRmosavleTis fasadi)<br />
gamT, mere ki 1898 wels calke<br />
augiaT TavianTi saydari.<br />
RvTismSoblis eklesiis irgvliv<br />
Zveli saflavebis saintereso qvebia.<br />
zogs verZis forma aqvs, zogze guTnisdedis<br />
atributebia gamosaxuli,<br />
zogze _ meomris. yuradRebas ipyrobs<br />
taZris samxreT-aRmosavleT<br />
kuTxesTan dawolili veeba lodi,<br />
romelzec lamazi mxedruli asoebiT<br />
amokveTilia `Zvel qristianTa<br />
eklesiis Sewynarebisa erTguli winamZRvris~<br />
anu marTlmadidebeli<br />
mRvdlis petre xmalaZis epitafia.<br />
raoden tevadia marTlmadideblobis<br />
aseTi ganmarteba _`Zvel qristian-<br />
Ta~! iqneb, am sityvebis miRma is<br />
brZolac igulisxmeba, romelic aqaur<br />
qarTvelobas gadaxda sakuTari<br />
meobisa da WeSmariti sarwmunoebis<br />
upiratesobis dasamtkiceblad XIX<br />
saukuneSi?!<br />
am petre xmalaZis STamomavali<br />
iyo baraleTis qarTuli skolis<br />
direqtori giorgi xmalaZe, romelmac<br />
CemTan saubarSi gaixsena<br />
misma rZalma nineli ananiaSvilma:<br />
`batoni giorgi me Sevcvale<br />
skolaSi, magram axla iseTi mZime<br />
mdgomareoba gvaqvs, rom misi tvir-<br />
Tis zidva Zalian miWirs. bolo<br />
wlebSi, qarTuli mosaxleobis klebis<br />
gamo, ufrosklaselTa<br />
raodenoba ise<br />
Semcirda, rom sami asakobrivi<br />
jgufisTvis<br />
erTi zeda klasic ki<br />
ver davakompleqte. amitomaa,<br />
rom baraleTeli<br />
ufrosklaselebi<br />
axalqalaqis qarTul<br />
skolaSi ganagrZoben<br />
swavlas. axalqalaqidan<br />
baraleTamde ki 16<br />
kilometria. diax, ver<br />
vzide Cemi gansvenebuli<br />
mamamTilis Wapani. iciT, rogor<br />
gadaarCina man es eklesia? is mcire<br />
saeklesio inventari, rac ki ganadgurebas<br />
gadaurCa, saxlSi gadamala,<br />
sasawyobed gamzadebul, kiriT Se-<br />
TeTrebul eklesiaSi ki imdeni ibr-<br />
Zola, rom, mxareTmcodneobis kuTxe<br />
gaxsna, am jvrebis Setana ver gabeda<br />
(qalbatoni nineli or sawinamZRvro<br />
jvars miCvenebs), magram eklesia<br />
gadakeTebasa da gaveranebas gadaarCina~...<br />
qalbatoni nineli wamiT<br />
dadumda, mRelvareba daZlia da ganagrZo:<br />
`ra Tqma unda, aqeT rom gamovTxovdi,<br />
axalgazrda viyavi, maswavlebloba<br />
daviwye, magram soflis<br />
somxur garemos ver Sevegue, mcirericxovani<br />
qarTveloba Cvenebur<br />
aminds ver qmnida, arc Tbilisidan<br />
iyo raime xelSewyoba. erTi sityviT,<br />
mZime mdgomareobaSi aRmovCndi<br />
da baton giorgis Sevbede, rom aq<br />
veRar gavZlebdi. man yuradRebiT<br />
momismina da ase momigo _ me rogor<br />
dagakaveb, magram vidre waxvidode,<br />
erT SekiTxvaze mipasuxe _ aqaurobas<br />
vis utoveb? Semrcxva da davr-<br />
Ci. mas Semdeg gadavwyvite _ mec da<br />
Cemi Svilebic aq viyoT da aq davixocoT.<br />
qarTvelma aqedan fexi ar<br />
unda moicvalos~.<br />
es saubari 10 wlis win Sedga,<br />
magram ise cxadad CamebeWda goneba-<br />
Si, rom mosvenebas ar maZlevs. 10<br />
weli mcire dro ar aris Carxis<br />
waRma Tu ukuRma dasatrialeblad.<br />
amdenad, arasdros mtovebs mwvave<br />
gancda da SekiTxva: _ vaiTu?...<br />
vaiTu, sul daicalos es sofeli,<br />
vaiTu, baraleTic misi mezobeli<br />
mereniis dReSi Cavardes, sadac<br />
qarTuli warsulidan mxolod mcireodeni<br />
kvaliRaa gadarCenili. er-<br />
Ti maTgania warmarTuli menhiri<br />
(igive `veSapi~ da `Ziqva~ anu rZis<br />
qva), romelic amJamad ficrulSi<br />
dgas. es giganturi lodi da odnav<br />
zeviT arsebuli didi, gemrieli<br />
wyaros wyali, gadmocemis Tanaxmad,<br />
rZedamSrali dedebis mkurnalia.<br />
qalebi jer lods Seexebian erboiani<br />
xeliT, mere ki wyaros wyals<br />
svamen da mis kedelSi Cadgmul<br />
wminda giorgis bareliefTan anTeben<br />
sanTels. es bareliefi im Zveli<br />
taZris kuTvnileba unda iyos,<br />
romelic dRes aRar arsebobs. Zveli<br />
qarTuli saydris arsebobas is<br />
qvajvaric adasturebs, romelic<br />
XIX saukTunis somxuri eklesiis<br />
zeZirkvelSia gawolili.<br />
soflis saxelwodeba merenia,<br />
qurTuli `mere~-dan momdinareobs,<br />
rac moedans hqvia. axla jerjerobiT<br />
aqauri aRarc burTia Cveni da<br />
aRarc moedani.<br />
gela qoqiaSvili<br />
avtoris fotoebi
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
21<br />
imereTSi, xaragaulis raionis<br />
uamrav ualamazes sofelTa<br />
Soris, aris saqarTvelos bevri<br />
sxva sofeliviT uaptronod mitovebuli<br />
Cemi amaSukeTic.<br />
“qarTuli ocnebis” dargobrivi<br />
jgufidan xaragaulis raionSi<br />
erTkviriani vizitiT, “qarTuli<br />
ocnebis” winaarCevno kompaniis<br />
Casatareblad, biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
mxaradsaWerad da adgilobrivi<br />
mosaxleobis problemebis<br />
gasacnobad samkaciani<br />
jgufi gagvagzavnes. mTlianad<br />
xaragaulis raionisa da misi<br />
soflis mosaxleobis gausaZlisi<br />
siduxWiris fonze, Sereuli,<br />
alpuri zonis klimatis tyeebi-<br />
Ta da nakrZalebiT ganTqmul am<br />
mxares kidev erTi ubedureba<br />
daatexa Tavs qarTvelTmoZule<br />
saakaSvilis reJimma. es “saqar-<br />
Tvelos rkinigzis modernizaciis”<br />
proeqtia. kerZod ki xa-<br />
Suri-zestafonis monakveTze<br />
e.w. rkinigzisTvis gasaTxreli<br />
gvirabi, romlis ganxorcielebis<br />
proeqtis tenderSic “Turme”<br />
Cinur kompanias “gaumarjvia”.<br />
sadRac Soreul<br />
CineTSi, “TavisiT Seutyvia”,<br />
saqarTveloSi<br />
tenderi rom tardeboda<br />
da saakaSvili “arafer<br />
SuaSia”?! samuSaos Casatareblad<br />
Camosuli<br />
mravalricxovani Cinelebis<br />
masiuri migaracia<br />
“stiqiur ubedurebad”<br />
eqca adgilobriv mosaxleobas.<br />
gauTaveblad<br />
“singapurizaciisa” da<br />
“mravaleTnikuri eris “<br />
(saakaSvilis sayvareli<br />
termini) xsenebis fonze,<br />
yvelaferi qarTulis<br />
mooxrebisa da ganadgurebis<br />
Semdeg saakaSvilis<br />
aseTi demografiuli<br />
politikac aRarvis ukvirs.<br />
erica da eTnosic, misi azrobrivi<br />
datvirTviTa da TvalsazrisiTac<br />
SeuZlebelia mravaleTnikuri<br />
iyos. eTnosi damoukidebel<br />
eTnikur erTeuls warmoadgens.<br />
es araTu azrobrivad<br />
gaumarTlebeli nonsensi, elementaruli<br />
gaunaTlebloba.<br />
qarTvel kacs stumrad Camosulisa<br />
da saqmeSi SemxideblisTvis<br />
uari arasdros uTqvams,<br />
magram xSirad am “damxmare-Semxideblebis”<br />
mojamagired<br />
aqeT qceula da es “momxmarec”<br />
misi qonebis baton-patronic<br />
aqeT gamxdara. xaragaulis realobidan<br />
ki, rogorc Cans, saqme<br />
daxmarebasa da SexidebaSi<br />
srulebiTac ar aris. piriqiT,<br />
saqarTvelos ekosistemis ganadgurebasa<br />
da am proeqtis<br />
arealSi mcxovrebi mosaxleobis<br />
sakuTari miwebidan ayrasa<br />
da am miwebidan maT gasaxleba-<br />
Sia. adgilobrivi mosaxleobisgan<br />
mopovebuli informaciiT,<br />
xsenebuli gvirabi ara xelisuflebis<br />
mier gacxadebuli<br />
Cqarosnuli matareblisTvis,<br />
aramed (saqarTvelos teritoriis<br />
gavliT) TurqeTisTvis<br />
satvrTo sarkinigzo marSrutisTvis<br />
keTdeba. xaragaulis<br />
mosaxleoba ki, romelsac rkinizgis<br />
nacvlad avtobanis gake-<br />
Tebas hpirdebian, im rkinigziT<br />
sargeblobis SesaZleblobasac<br />
kargavs, romliTac miuval mTian<br />
adgilebSi rkinigzasTan urmiT<br />
Cayvanili pacientisTvis matarebliT<br />
eqimic araerTxel<br />
mouyvaniaT. vinaidan “demokratiulad<br />
gaWenebuli Suquris”<br />
mmarTvelobiT mouwesrigebeli<br />
gzebis gamo, imereTis am maRlamTian<br />
soflebSi saswrafo<br />
daxmarebis manqanac ver adis.<br />
boriTis gzis piras, adgilobrivi<br />
mosaxleobisTvis aSenebuli,<br />
saukeTeso samedicino teqnikiT<br />
aRWurvili ufaso saavadmyofoSi<br />
ki “zeda eSelonebis”<br />
brZanebiT, adgilobrivma xelisuflebam<br />
jer es teqnika daaziana,<br />
saavadmyofos boqlomic<br />
daado. Semdeg ki mosaxleobas<br />
xaragaulSi ukve arsebuli<br />
oTxsarTuliani saavadmyofos<br />
SenobaSi “axali saavadmyofos~<br />
gaxsnis perspeqtiviT atyuebs.<br />
Cveni yofnisas xaragaulSi Camosuli<br />
gapremierebuli merabiSvilis<br />
vizitis erTi detali<br />
televiziebsa da Jurnalistebs<br />
yuradRebis miRma darCa. sakrebuloSi<br />
“TavisianebTan” Sexvedraze<br />
misul “uZlevel merabiSvils”<br />
“qarTuli ocnebis” Cveni<br />
jgufis axalgazrda warmoamdgenelma<br />
SekiTxva dausva: “vano<br />
isev kamaziT xaro”?. es “is kamazia”,<br />
romliTac saakaSvilis<br />
TqmiT, “gaRletili merabiSvilis”<br />
ojaxi Turme dRemde dadis.<br />
dabneuli vaniCka, “Sen xar<br />
kamaziT, Sen xar kamaziTo”, –<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.net<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
cxra nomeri giJebis TareSi<br />
da gayiduli qveyana<br />
gaiZaxoda. misma gaognebulma<br />
dacvam ki “qarTuli ocnebis”<br />
Cveni warmomadgenlis telefonic<br />
daazusta da am fraziT<br />
dabneuli aRma-daRma darboda<br />
da “info 9”-s Jurnalistebsa<br />
da kamerebs emaleboda. saavadmyofobis<br />
gamo ki xaragaulidan<br />
zestafonSi, iqedan ki quTaisSi<br />
gadagzavnili bevri avadmoyofi<br />
gzaSi mxolod imisTvis daiRupa<br />
da iRupeba, rom xelisuflebas<br />
ivaniSvilis gaxnili ufaso<br />
saavadmyofo ar awyobs. arc<br />
isaa cnobili, am Cinuri kompaniis<br />
mier ganxorcielebuli daxuruli<br />
gvirabis proeqtiT risi<br />
gadazidva igegmeba _ narkotikebis,<br />
iaraRisa da<br />
samxedro teqnikis Tu<br />
“TvalisTvis mosafarebeli”<br />
kidev sxva ramis?!<br />
saakaSvilis “proeqtomaniis”<br />
(hesebisa<br />
da gvirabebis Txris)<br />
gamo, ukve gaqrobis piras<br />
misul baxmaros midamoebSi<br />
arsebul “nabeRlavis”<br />
mineralur<br />
wyals axla “zvares<br />
wyalic” emateba. Cinuri<br />
kompaniis mier dawyebuli<br />
gvirabis gaTxriT,<br />
iketeba nunusis saucxoo<br />
samkurnalo da<br />
saswaulmoqmedi Tvisebebis<br />
mqone “nunisis<br />
wylis” xeobac. nunisis<br />
monasterTan mimavali gzac CinelebiT<br />
dasaxlebul teritoriaSi<br />
eqceva. nunisis gamoqvabulSi<br />
ki “noes kidobnis” arsebobis<br />
araerTi mosazreba da<br />
fotomasala arsebobs. “zvares<br />
qarxnis” yofili teritoriac<br />
dRes Cinelebis xelSia. miwis<br />
siRrmidan dResac samkurnalo<br />
“zvares wyali” amodis. irgvlic<br />
ki nagavi, plastmasis carieli<br />
boTlebi da sibinZurea.<br />
iq misulebs, momavali kar-midamos<br />
SemTvalierebiT dakavebuli<br />
“iqaurobis baton-patroni”<br />
ori Cineli dagvixvda. “maT teritoriaze<br />
ucxoTa Sesvla” aSkarad<br />
ar esiamovnaT da sanam ar<br />
wamovediT Soridan amreziT<br />
gvicqerdnen. Camosuli Cinelebi<br />
ki “saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis”<br />
miRebasTan erTad (rac maT iqaurobis<br />
baton-patronad xdis)<br />
umowyalod kafaven adgilobriv<br />
tyeebsa da adgilze samosaxloebsac<br />
iSeneben. araerT Cinels<br />
SexvdebiT lacabiZeebis, RonRa-<br />
Zeebisa Tu sxva qarTuli gvarebiT.<br />
mTavari problema ki ima-<br />
Sia, rom “samuSaod Camosuli”<br />
Cineli muSaxeli, aseT walkot-<br />
Si cxovrebis Semdeg mSobliur<br />
CineTSi dabrunebas aRarc ki<br />
fiqrobs. Tu Cinelis anzRaureba<br />
1700 lars Seadgens, Sesrulebul<br />
mime samuSaoSi (eleqtroSemduRebelis)<br />
gaWirvebul<br />
qarTvels 11-saaTian samuSaoSi<br />
20 lars uxdian. mama-papiseuli<br />
tyis moxmarebisTvis xelisufleba<br />
adgilobriv mosaxleobas<br />
uzomo jarimebs uwesebs, (Tumca<br />
winasaarCevnod garkveul nawils<br />
SezRudva droebiT mouxsnes)<br />
Cinelebi ki umowyalod<br />
kafaven xaragaulis tyes. Tavad<br />
xelisuflebac, saSemodgomod,<br />
wifis gvirabiT, 30 000 kubometri<br />
SeSis gatanas gegmas saqarTvelos<br />
farglebs gareT. xaragaulis<br />
ekologias arc iqauri<br />
adgilobrivi policia wyalobs.<br />
policiis adgilobrivi<br />
maRalCinosnebi kerZo drostareba-<br />
garTobisTvis ankesiT<br />
Tevzaobas ar kadruloben. Ram-<br />
RamobiT denis gamoyenebiT “Tevzaoben”.<br />
dengatarebul wyalSi<br />
erTxel moxvedrili Tevzi ki<br />
kargavs qviriTis debis unars<br />
da mdinaris TevziT mdidari<br />
raioni am bunebrivi resursis<br />
gareSec rCeba. xaragaulis tye-<br />
Si, romelic borjomisken dRes<br />
gauqmebuli nakrZalis statusis<br />
mqone “borjom-xaragaulis<br />
tye-parkiT” grZeldeba, iCexeba<br />
bunebrivad moSenebuli xis ise-<br />
Ti unikaluri jiSic, rogoric<br />
rcxilaa. niadagSi daqsaqsuli<br />
misi fesvebi miwas dacurebisa<br />
da CamoSlisagn icavs. rcxilis<br />
TviTneburi Cexvac, mewyerebisa<br />
da miwis CamoSlis safuZveli<br />
gaxdeba. xelisufleba ki (Rmer-<br />
Tma ara hqnas, oqtombris Semdegac<br />
rom darCes) faqtobrivad<br />
ganzrax gamowvuli am stiqiuri<br />
ubedurebisTvis megobari qveynebidan<br />
gamoyofil Tanxebsac ise<br />
“gemrielad Seirgebs”, rogorc<br />
samaCablos devnilTa saxlebis-<br />
Tvis gamoyofili Tanxebi “Seirgo”<br />
subelianTan erTad. aSenebul<br />
xuxulebi ki samaCabloelebs<br />
yelSi amouyvanes. ekosistemis<br />
moSlisa da unikaluri<br />
tyis ganadgurebis garda, es e.w.<br />
proeqti demogarfiul safr-<br />
Txesac uqmnis xaragaulis mosaxleobas.<br />
soliduri SemosavlebiT<br />
dafinansebuli Cinelebi,<br />
gaWivebul adgilobriv mosaxleobas<br />
sacxovreblebis datovebis<br />
sanacvlod, sxvagan gadasaxlebas<br />
sTavazoben. xSir Sem-<br />
TxvevebSi, es Tanxa ar Seesabameba<br />
samosaxlosTvis aucilebel,<br />
sakmaris Tanxas, rasac Cinelebisgan<br />
Seviwrovebuli, gausaZlis<br />
pirobebSi myofi adgilobrivebidan<br />
bevri ukve Tanxmdeba.<br />
gadaxdili Tanxa ki, sanam<br />
sxva sacxovrebels ipovnis, an<br />
exarjebaT, an saxlis SesaZenad<br />
arc ki hyofniT. rusulenovani<br />
Cinelebi imasac amxelen, rom<br />
adgilobrivi xelisufleba maT<br />
meti Tanxis gadaxdas ukrZalavs.<br />
walkot mxareSi dasaxlebiT<br />
“madlieri Cinelebi” ki<br />
xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg ar<br />
midian. CineTis xelisufleba<br />
Tavisi eTnosis sxvis miwebze<br />
dasaxlebasa da maT keTilmowyobaSi<br />
Tavis moqalaqeebs<br />
bevr fuls uxdis. saakaSvilis<br />
piradi damsaxurebiT ki saqarTvelos<br />
sxva kuTxeebis msgavsad,<br />
qarTuli mosaxleobisgan icleba<br />
ukve imereTis ulamazesi<br />
soflebic. nacvlad imisa, rom<br />
sofelma Tavic, qalaqica da<br />
qveyanac gamokvebos, imereli<br />
glexis samosaxlo nayofier<br />
miwebze Cinelebi ewevian soflis<br />
meurneobas da Tavisi moyvanili<br />
produqtiT saqarTvelos<br />
momaragebas. usaxl-karod<br />
darCenili qarTveli ki, (Tavis<br />
sarCenad), an saberZneTSi, an<br />
amerikaSi mdidar moxucTa mosavlelad<br />
da sxva qveynebSi mZime<br />
samuSaobze midis. aq datovebul<br />
maT moxucebs ki saakaSvili<br />
masxrad igdebs da winasaar-<br />
Cevnod kbilebis CasmiT surs<br />
maTi keTilganwyobis mopoveba.<br />
“am Casmuli kbilebiT ra unda<br />
vWamoTo?”_ erTma moxucma imerelma<br />
mkiTxa. daclili soflebis,<br />
soflis skolebis naxvisas,<br />
(sadac zogan ori, zogan ki<br />
eqvsi bavSvis meti arc midis<br />
pirvel klasSi), naTelia, rom<br />
saakaSvilis Sizofreniulad<br />
(Tu davalebiT) axirebuli<br />
proeqtebis ganxorcilebiT<br />
“nacionaluri moZraoba” da piradad<br />
“gaWenebuli saakaSvili”<br />
saqarTvelos demografiul,<br />
ekologiur da faqtobrivad,<br />
eTnikur genocidsac eweva. samomavlo<br />
proeqtebSi gamarjvebuli<br />
kompaniebic xelisuflebasTan<br />
garigebulni, an sulac<br />
maT mier lobirebulni rom<br />
arian _ esec naTelia, radgan<br />
yvela aseTi proeqtis ukan mxolod<br />
saqarTvelos da qarTveli<br />
xalxis saziano Sedegebi dgeba.<br />
baia <strong>amaSukeli</strong>
22 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
anaboluri<br />
steroidebi<br />
anaboluri steroidebi, qimiuri<br />
struqturis mixedviT,<br />
mamakacis saTesle jirkvlebSi<br />
gamomuSavebuli sasqeso hormonis<br />
_ testosteronis msgavsi<br />
preparatebia. Tanamedrove<br />
medicinaSi maT farTod gamoiyeneben<br />
sxvadasxva daavadebis<br />
samkurnalod. ukanasknel<br />
wlebSi sakmaod imata im axalgazrdebis<br />
raodenobam, romlebic<br />
fitnes-klubebsa da sportul<br />
darbazebSi intensiuri<br />
varjiSis sanacvlod, swored<br />
anaboluri steroidebiT cdiloben,<br />
mokle droSi sxeulis<br />
sasurveli formis miRebas da<br />
SenarCunebas.<br />
statistika, romelic axalgazrdebis<br />
mier am preparatebis<br />
gamoyenebas ukavSirdeba, metad<br />
savalaloa _ maTi araswori, aradozirebuli,<br />
TviTneburi, ukontrolo<br />
miReba sakmaod seriozul<br />
zians ayenebs janmrTelobas.<br />
moqmedebis meqanizmis mixedviT,<br />
organizmSi moxvedrili<br />
anaboluri preparati im organoebsa<br />
da organoTa sistemazec<br />
moqmedebs, romlebic testosteronze<br />
`specializebuli~ ar<br />
aris. farTovdeba maTi farmakologiuri<br />
moqmedebis areali da<br />
wamalic organizmisTvis sawamlavi<br />
xdeba _ didi dozebiT anaboluri<br />
steroidebis xangrZlivi<br />
xmareba organizmSi im gar-<br />
Tulebebs iwvevs, romlebic Semdeg<br />
umZimesi paTologiebis mizezii<br />
xdeba.<br />
medikamenturi usafrTxoeba<br />
anaboluri<br />
steroidebis<br />
gavlena organizmze<br />
gul-sisxlZarRvTa<br />
sistema<br />
anaboluri steroidis umar-<br />
Tebuli miRebas axasiaTebs: arteriuli<br />
wnevis mateba, hipertenziis<br />
Camoyalibeba, miokardis (gulis<br />
kunTis) dazianeba. gulis<br />
ritmis darRveva da gulis mwvave<br />
ukmarisobis ganviTareba. sisxlSi<br />
qolesterinis, lipoproteidebisa<br />
da Tavisufali radikalebis<br />
warmoqmnis stimulacia.<br />
nervuli sistema<br />
adamianis tvins specialuri<br />
receptorebi gaaCnia testosteronTan<br />
urTierTobisTvis da<br />
Sesabamisad, mis pirvel samiznesac<br />
igi warmoadgens. gasuli<br />
saukunis 80-ian wlebSi anaboluri<br />
steroidebi farTod gamoiyeneboda<br />
nervul-fsiqikuri<br />
daavadebebis, maT Soris _ fsiqozebisa<br />
da depresiebis samkurnalod.<br />
am preparatebis Terapiuli<br />
dozebi namdvilad exmareboda<br />
pacientebs daavadeba-<br />
Ta damarcxebaSi, Tumca, araTerapiuli<br />
dozebiT miRebisas es<br />
preparatebi Tavad xdeba fsiqoemociuri<br />
wris darRvevaTa mizezi.<br />
dadgenilia, rom araswori<br />
miRebisas, gansakuTrebiT didi<br />
dozebiT, adamianSi yalibdeba<br />
maTze damokidebuleba; amasTan,<br />
rac ufro axalgazrdaa, miT<br />
ufro swrafad iCens Tavs damokidebuleba<br />
da miT ufro Rrmaa<br />
nervuli sistemis disfunqcia.<br />
reproduqciuli<br />
sistema<br />
mamakacebSi _ organizmSi xelovnurad<br />
Seyvanili steroidi<br />
iwvevs sakuTari testosteronis<br />
sinTezis daTrgunvas, sisxlSi<br />
misi koncentraciis daqveiTebas,<br />
rac saTesleebis atrofiis,<br />
spermis warmoqmnis daqveiTebis,<br />
spermatozoidebis moZraobisa<br />
da kvercxujredSi maTi<br />
SeRwevis unaris Semcirebis mizezi<br />
xdeba. iklebs spermis raodenobac.<br />
eWvs aRar iwvevs anaboluri<br />
steroidebis umarTebulo<br />
gamoyenebasa da prostatis<br />
adenomis ganviTarebas Soris<br />
urTierTkavSiri.<br />
qalebSi _ iwvevs saSvilosnos<br />
da sakvercxeebis atrofias,<br />
menstrualuri ciklis darRvevas,<br />
mis srul gaqrobamde. biZgs<br />
aZlevs virilizaciis (xmis daboxeba,<br />
moWarbebuli Tmianoba,<br />
sarZeve jirkvlebis dapataraveba)<br />
process:<br />
saSarde sistema<br />
TirkmelebSi anaboluri steroidebis<br />
gavleniT warmoiqmneba<br />
qvebi da irRveva Tirkmlis<br />
gorgalSi Sardis warmoqmnis<br />
procesi. qronikulma xmarebam<br />
SesaZloa, Tirkmelebi simsivnurad<br />
gadaagvaros kidec.<br />
sayrdenmamoZravebeli<br />
sistema<br />
Zvlis, myesisa da kunTebis<br />
araTanabari, Seusabamo zrdis gamo,<br />
imatebs travmatizmi. mosalodnelia<br />
myesebis gaglejva,<br />
Zvlebis adreuli osteofikacia,<br />
epifizaruli (xrtilovani) firfitebis<br />
daCqarebuli Sexorceba.<br />
gaiTvaliswineT:<br />
_ sabednierod steroiduli<br />
preparatebis miRebis drouli<br />
Sewyvetis Semdeg, yvela paTologiuri<br />
cvlilebis aRmofxvra<br />
SesaZlebelia.<br />
_ iseTi garTulebani, rogorebicaa:<br />
saxeze gamonayari, Tmis<br />
cvena, Zilis darRveva, madis<br />
gaZliereba, agresia _ preparatebis<br />
miRebis SewyvetisTanave<br />
qreba.<br />
_ akrZalulia maTze erTba-<br />
Sad uaris Tqma, radgan sisxl-<br />
Si steroidebis koncentraciis<br />
mkveTri daqveiTeba iwvevs: Rebinebas,<br />
surdos, Tavis tkivils,<br />
Tavbrusxvevas, guliscemis gaZlierebas,<br />
arteriuli wnevis matebas,<br />
libidos Semcirebas, depresias.<br />
_ steroidebis miRebis unda<br />
Sewydes TandaTanobiT, eqimis<br />
meTvalyureobis qveS.<br />
daexmareT Tavs saWmlis monelebaSi<br />
adamianTa umravlesobas stresis,<br />
gadaRlisa da gadaqancvisas,<br />
yvela `sikeTesTan~ erTad,<br />
kuW-nawlavis traqtTan dakavSirebuli<br />
problemebi uCndeba. es<br />
nervuli sistemis gamofitvis<br />
Sedegia, romelic saWmlis monelebis<br />
funqciis daTrgunvas iwvevs.<br />
Sedegad, SesaZloa ganvi-<br />
Tardes meteorizmi, Sekruloba<br />
an yabzoba, nawlavis sxvadasxva<br />
tipis anTebiTi paTologiebi,<br />
adamians mada daekargos.<br />
msgavs SemTxvevaSi aucilebelia,<br />
Cven TviTon davexmaroT<br />
kuW-nawlavis traqts sakvebis<br />
monelebaSi `mwvane megobrebis~,<br />
xilisa da bostneuli, sxvadasxva<br />
samkurnalo mcenaris meSveobiT.<br />
celuloza _<br />
mcenareuli ujredisi<br />
celuloza mcenareuli boWkoebiT<br />
mdidari sakvebia, romelic<br />
Seucvlelia sakvebis normalur<br />
monelebisTvis.<br />
misi wyaro mxolod da mxolod<br />
mcenareuli produqtebia.<br />
ujredisi mcenareuli qsovilebis<br />
ZiriTadi saSeni masalaa; misi<br />
uxeSi safuZveli _ ConCxi<br />
saWmlis momnelebel traqtSi<br />
gavlisas arsebiTad ar icvleba<br />
da gardaqmnebsac umniSvnelod<br />
ganicdis, Tu mxedvelobaSi piris<br />
RruSi kbilebiT mis meqanikur<br />
daqucmacebas ar miviRebT.<br />
radgan celuloza ar gardaiqmneba,<br />
Sesabamisad, misgan organizmic<br />
arafers iTvisebs, amitom<br />
igi sakveb komponentebis<br />
ricxvs ar miekuTvneba.<br />
misi kvebiTi Rirebulebaa:<br />
_ ar moineleba da swored<br />
amitom nawlavebs ukeT muSaobas<br />
aiZulebs.<br />
_ ujredisiT mdidari sakvebis<br />
regularuli miRebiT sagr-<br />
Znoblad mcirdeba nawlavebis<br />
infeqciuri da onkologiuri<br />
daavadebebiT dasnebovnebis riski.<br />
_ ujredisi amcirebs sisxlSi<br />
qolesterinis dones.<br />
_ celulozis mTavari Rirsebaa<br />
is, rom aseTi sakvebiT<br />
adamiani swrafad nayrdeba da<br />
aRar uCndeba cximebiTa da nax-<br />
SirwylebiT mdidari ulufebis<br />
miRebis survili. iklebs miRebuli<br />
kaloriebis raodenoba,<br />
izrdeba organizmSi vitaminebis,<br />
mikroelementebisa da mineraluri<br />
nivTierebebis koncentracia.<br />
bostneuli<br />
bostneuls wylis, celulozis,<br />
vitaminebis, marilebis<br />
didi Semcveloba da mcire kaloriuloba<br />
axasiaTebs.<br />
kulinariuli teqnikis amocanaa,<br />
SeunarCunos mas aromatuli<br />
nivTierebani, marilebi da<br />
vitaminebi.<br />
kuW-nawlavis traqtis gaRizianebisas<br />
umjobesia, sakvebi<br />
orTqlze momzadebuli miirTvaT.<br />
kargia bostneulis sufle<br />
da piure, mravalkomponentiani<br />
salaTebi.<br />
sakvebis monelebas gansakuTrebiT<br />
aumjobesebs:<br />
stafilo _ igi yabzobiT<br />
Sewuxebuli adamianebis mSvelelia;<br />
maT es bostneuli sakmaod<br />
didi raodenobiT SeuZliaT miirTvan.<br />
sasargebloa rogorc sufTa<br />
wveni, ise moxarSuli, CaSuSuli<br />
saxiT, mcenareuli zeTiT<br />
mcired Sezavebuli.<br />
Warxali _ stafilos msgavsad,<br />
esec Svelis Sekrulobas.<br />
metad dadebiTi Sedegi aqvs<br />
Warxlisa da stafilos Sereuli<br />
wvenis miRebas.<br />
kombosto _ sakmaod Znelad<br />
mosanelebeli produqtia, radgan<br />
igi bostneulTa Soris<br />
TiTqmis yvelaze didi raodenobiT<br />
Seicavs celulozas. amitom<br />
misi miReba kuWis qronikuli<br />
daavadebebisas rekomendebuli<br />
ar aris, sxva danarCen SemTxvevaSi,<br />
rogorc CaSuSuli, ise<br />
cocxali kombostos salaTebi<br />
aZlierebs nawlavis peristaltikas<br />
da aumjobesebs sakvebis<br />
monelebis xarisxs.<br />
xili<br />
xili, iseve rogorc bostneuli,<br />
mdidaria wyliTa da celuloziT.<br />
maTSi ZiriTadad<br />
fruqtoza da glukozaa.<br />
xils gemos aZlevs mJavebi,<br />
aromatuli nivTierebebi da vitaminebi.<br />
mineraluri nivTierebebidan<br />
xili mdidaria kaliumi-<br />
Ta da rkiniT.<br />
vaSli _ rekomendebulia<br />
Sekrulobis dros.<br />
forToxali da limoni _<br />
sisustisa da im vitaminebis Sesavsebad<br />
gamodgeba, romlebic<br />
pirdapir monawileobs sakvebis<br />
monelebisas da zogierTi sakvebi<br />
nivTierebis Sewovisas.<br />
Savi qliavi _ mis rols<br />
nawlavebis peristaltikis gaZlierebaSi<br />
mTeli msoflio aRiarebs.<br />
igi yabzobis samkurnalo<br />
kvebisas Seucvleli komponentia,<br />
rogorc cocxali, ise gamomSrali<br />
saxiT.<br />
mocvi _ kenkrovnebidan taninebis<br />
uxvad Semcvelobis gamo<br />
aqtiurad gamoiyeneba diareis<br />
sawinaaRmdegod.<br />
broweuli _ faRaraTis aRsakveTad<br />
saimedo damxmarea broweulis<br />
axalgamowuruli wveni<br />
da misi qerqis naxarSi.<br />
samkurnalo mcenareebi<br />
sakvebis monelebis procesis<br />
sxvadasxva rgolis moSlisas,<br />
adamianebs, gansakuTrebiT kuWisa<br />
da nawlavebis daavadebebisas,<br />
piris Rrudan usiamovno suni<br />
aReniSnebaT, maT Soris maTTac,<br />
vinc sworad da ganuxrelad<br />
icavs piris Rrus higienasa da<br />
kbilebis movlis wesebs.<br />
aseTebs Seucvlel daxmarebas<br />
uwevs pirSuSxas fesvebi.<br />
50-70 grami pirSuSxas fesvebi<br />
unda gaasufTaveT da gaatareT<br />
xorcsakep manqanaSi, CadeT<br />
minis WurWelSi, daasxiT 200<br />
ml arayi da gaaCereT 3 dRe-Rame.<br />
mza nayeni gawureT. misi 3-5<br />
wveTi gaazaveT 250 ml anadu-<br />
Rar Tbil wyalSi da gamoivleT<br />
yoveldRe.<br />
samkurnalo mcenareTagan,<br />
romlebic saWmlis monelebas<br />
aumjobesebs, upirveles yovlisa,<br />
aRsaniSnavia gvirila, svia,<br />
barambo, pitna da Zirtkbila.<br />
barambos da gvirilas gamoyeneba<br />
SegiZliaT SeuzRudavad _<br />
regularulad miiReT am mcenareebisgan<br />
damzadebuli Cai. rac Seexeba<br />
svias, mas mkafiod gamoxatuli<br />
sedatiuri (saZile) Tviseba<br />
aqvs, amitom misi Cai umjobesia,<br />
saRamos, Zilis win miirTvaT,<br />
amiT nervul sistemasac daamSvidebT<br />
da kuWsac asiamovnebT.<br />
Zirtkbilas unda eridon arteriuli<br />
wnevis momatebisas,<br />
pitna ki dabali wnevis mqone-<br />
TaTvis ar aris rekomendebuli.<br />
moamzada zviad RonRaZem
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
23<br />
msoflio presis mixedviT<br />
ruseTs mxolod erTi<br />
gmiri SeiZleba hyavdes<br />
ruseTsa da saqarTvelos Soris<br />
`xuTdRiani omis~ Semdeg ukve 4 weli<br />
gavida. ruseTis xelisuflebaSi swored<br />
axla daiwyes kamaTi imis Sesaxeb,<br />
Tu vis ekuTvnis dafnis gvirgvini samxedro<br />
warmatebebisTvis _ maSindel<br />
prezident dimitri medvedevs Tu `eris<br />
lider~ vladimer putins, wers<br />
Der Standard.<br />
formalurad, ruseTis SeiaraRebuli<br />
Zalebis mTavarsardali medvedevi<br />
iyo, gvaxsenebs gamocema. Tumca axla<br />
umaRlesi generaliteti, maT Soris<br />
genStabis meTauri iuri baluevski<br />
medvedevs yoymanSi sdebs brals _<br />
vidre pekinis olimpiuri TamaSebis sazeimo<br />
gaxsnis ceremoniaze myofma putinma<br />
medvedevs `panRuri~ ar uTavaza,<br />
`riski imisa, rom saqarTvelo<br />
zurgs Seaqcevs<br />
demokratiis normebs,<br />
savsebiT realuria:<br />
`saakaSvili apirebs moiqces<br />
`putinis msgavsad~<br />
da xelisuflebaSi dabrundes<br />
ukana karidan~, _<br />
amtkicebs Financial Times-isTvis<br />
gagzavnil<br />
werilSi Tedo jafariZe,<br />
saqarTvelos sagareo<br />
saqmeTa yofili ministri,<br />
amJamad ki opozicioneri<br />
_ koalicia `qar-<br />
Tuli ocnebis~ sagareo<br />
saqmeTa mdivani.<br />
opoziciaSi gadasvlas<br />
Tedo jafariZe ori mizeziT<br />
xsnis: 1. `katastrofuli omi ruseT-<br />
Tan~, 2. xelisuflebis uunaroba, moagvaros<br />
rigiTi moqalaqeebis problemebi<br />
da avtoritarizmisken gadaxra~.<br />
`qarTuli ocneba~, biznesmen biZina<br />
ivaniSvilis xelmZRvanelobiT, gansakuTrebul<br />
aqcents akeTebs ekonomikis<br />
aRorZinebaze, jandacvis adekvaturi<br />
sistemis Seqmnasa da samoqalaqo sazogadoebis<br />
ganmtkicebaze, wers avtori.<br />
saakaSvili SeSfoTebuli `qarTuli<br />
ocnebis~ reitingiT da oponentTa<br />
igi umoqmedod iyoo. amis<br />
Sesaxeb laparakia rusulqarTuli<br />
omis meoTxe<br />
wlisTavisadmi miZRvnil<br />
da internetiT gavrcelebul<br />
axal filmSi _ `dakarguli<br />
dRe~. filmis avtorebis<br />
azriT, ruseTis<br />
maSindeli mTavarsardlis<br />
`simxdales~ uamravi samoqalaqo<br />
adamianis sicocxle<br />
emsxverpla.<br />
gamocemis cnobiT, am<br />
filmma skandali gamoiwvia<br />
ara marto ruseTSi, aramed<br />
saqarTveloSi, radgan gacxadda<br />
saintereso faqti _ samxedro dapirispirebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi ruseTs karga<br />
xnis win SemuSavebuli gegma hqonia.<br />
medvedevi uaryofs braldebas da<br />
acxadebs, rom samxedro moqmedebebis<br />
Sesaxeb brZaneba putinis miTiTebis gareSe<br />
gasca da putins mxolod amis<br />
Semdeg daukavSirda. Tavis mxriv, putini<br />
amtkicebs, rom medvedevs orjer<br />
elaparaka, pirvelad _ vidre gadawyvetilebas<br />
miiRebda. gamocemis azriT,<br />
am detalebs gadamwyveti mniSvneloba<br />
aqvs, radganac istoriaSi `omis gmirad~<br />
damkvidreba mxolod erTs SeuZlia;<br />
axla, yvela monacemiT, `gmiri~<br />
gaxdeba putini. da isic aSkaraa, rom<br />
tandemis periodma ukve Caiara.<br />
Der Standard<br />
mmarTvel partias<br />
`arCevnebis moparvis~<br />
ufleba ar unda mieces<br />
saparlamento arCevnebis win saqarTvelos<br />
samarTliani `TamaSis wesebi~ sWirdeba<br />
daSinebas aZlierebs. avtoris azriT,<br />
momavali saparlamento arCevnebis Sedegebs<br />
`amJamad ukve iparaven~.<br />
Tedo jafariZe mouwodebs amerikis<br />
SeerTebul Statebsa da evrokavSirs,<br />
ar Seasustos Tbilisze zemoqmedeba,<br />
raTa 1-li oqtombris arCevnebamde samarTliani<br />
pirobebi Seiqmnas. `Tuki<br />
dasavleTs sakuTari renomes SenarCuneba<br />
surs, gulxeldakrefili ar unda<br />
ijdes da mmarTvel partias `arCevnebis<br />
moparvis~ ufleba ar unda misces~,<br />
_ daaskvnis opozicioneri.<br />
Financial Times<br />
ruseTis prezidenti adasturebs,<br />
rom saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg samxedro<br />
operacia generalurma Stabma misi<br />
brZanebiT dagegma da moamzada,<br />
wers Le Figaro. `saidumlo ar aris,<br />
rom arsebobda gegma da swored im<br />
gegmis Sesabamisad vmoqmedebdiT. gen-<br />
Stabma es gegma 2006 wlis bols,<br />
2007 wlis dasawyisSi SeimuSava da<br />
SemiTanxma~, _ ganacxada putinma. man<br />
agreTve aRiara, rom ruseTis samxedro<br />
mosamsaxureebi ori wlis<br />
ganmavlobaSi amzadebdnen, wvrTnid-<br />
saxalxo molaSqreebs wvrTnida da<br />
samxedro agresias gegmavda, maSin<br />
eWvqveS dgeba konfliqtis dawyebis<br />
oficialuri versia, romelsac adre<br />
moskovi acxadebda, aRniSnavs gamocemis<br />
mimomxilveli. Tbilisi erTsa<br />
da imaves imeorebs _ 2008 wlis agvistoSi<br />
saqarTveloSi SeWra iyo<br />
winaswar dagegmili agresiis aqti<br />
suverenuli eris winaaRmdeg, xolo<br />
saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli Zalebi<br />
mxolod imitom gadavidnen Setevaze,<br />
rom ruseTis armia sazRvris ga-<br />
putinis aRiareba<br />
dakveTas apirebda.<br />
saqarTvelos xelisufalTa<br />
azriT,<br />
ruseTma omiT upasuxa<br />
im qarTuli<br />
reformebis pirvel<br />
warmatebas, romlebic<br />
rusul models<br />
safrTxes uqmnida.<br />
putinma aRiara<br />
Tbilisis winaaRmdeg<br />
omis dagegmili<br />
xasiaTi da amiT<br />
cxviri aubzua dasavleTis<br />
saxelmwifoebs,<br />
romlebsac<br />
nen adgilobriv moxalise meomrebs,<br />
ukve meramdene Tvea, siriis<br />
riTac irRveoda saerTaSoriso samarTlis<br />
normebi. `am gegmis farglebSi<br />
vamzadebdiT samxreToseTel<br />
molaSqreebs~, _ aRniSna putinma.<br />
Tuki genStabi samxreT oseTis<br />
problemis gamo kunTebs uCvenebs,<br />
aRniSnavs avtori. msgavsi ritorika<br />
ki, rogorc gamocdileba gviCvenebs,<br />
kargs arafers moaswavebs.<br />
Le Figaro<br />
iranis birTvuli obieqtebis dabombva<br />
SesaZlebeli iqneba oqtombris<br />
dasawyisSi, wers gazeT Corriere della<br />
Sera-s mimomxilveli.<br />
`ramdenime Tvis ganmavlobaSi mimdinareobda<br />
mSvidobiani debati iranze<br />
Setevis Sesaxeb, axla ki irkveva, rom<br />
SesaZlo dartymamde ramdenime kviraa<br />
darCenili. aseTi aCqareba SemTxveviTi<br />
ar aris. arsebobs amerikis saagento<br />
Nie-s (National<br />
Intelligence Estimate)<br />
moxseneba, romelSic<br />
aseTi gafrTxilebaa:<br />
ivnisidan dRemde, iranis<br />
birTvuli maragi<br />
gaizarda. cnobilia TariRic:<br />
1-li oqtomberi,<br />
roca israelis<br />
wyaroebis cnobiT, Teiranis<br />
xelSi 20 procentiT<br />
gamdidrebuli<br />
250 kilogrami urani<br />
aRmoCndeba. es raodenoba sakmarisia<br />
imisTvis, rom 2-4 superbombi Seiqmnas,<br />
Shahab-3-is tipis axal raketebze<br />
damagrdes da 1300 kilometrze gauSva:<br />
igi miaRwevs israelis udabno negevsa<br />
da dimoneSi arsebul birTvul<br />
centramde, sadac ebrauli saxelmwifo<br />
Tavis saidumlo birTvul iaraRs<br />
awarmoebda~, _ wers gamocema.<br />
`davijeroT Tu ara es? genStabis<br />
meTauri `yvela frontze~ mzadyofnis<br />
brZanebas iZleva. mimdinareobs saganga-<br />
So viTarebis Sesatyobinebeli sistemis<br />
reklama _ israelis mosaxleoba,<br />
Tavdasxmis SemTxvevaSi, sms-s oTx<br />
israeli temps umatebs:<br />
ramdenime kviraSi irans Seuteven<br />
enaze miiRebs. sazogadoebrivi gamokiTxvis<br />
SedegebiT, qveynis mosaxleobis<br />
mxolod 35 procents surs, moulodnelad<br />
daartyan irans da ar daelodon<br />
amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis<br />
samxedro-politikur mxardaWeras.<br />
eqs-premieri ehud olmerti ki sifr-<br />
Txiles iCens: misi azriT, dro jer<br />
kidev aris, saerTaSoriso sanqciebic<br />
moqmedebs: ramdenime Tvis Semdeg iranis<br />
ekonomika isedac daiqceva~, _ aRniSnavs<br />
werilis avtori.<br />
Corriere della Sera<br />
mimoxilva moamzada g. WavWavaZem.
24 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
sainteresoa, prezidentma<br />
saakaSvilma Tu icis,<br />
ramdeni Jurnalsiti hyavs<br />
cixeSi gamoketili?<br />
faSisturma mowodebam _`yvelani cixeSi~<br />
da `nulovani tolerantoba~ damagreveli<br />
Sedegebi moutana qveyanas, radgan saxelmwifos<br />
am politikas boroteba, sakuTari xalxis<br />
mimarT siZulvili da Zalmomreoba udevs<br />
safuZvlad.<br />
samarTali Cvens qveyanaSi SerCeviTia, imitom<br />
dausxltdnen `Zlierni ama soflisani~<br />
cixes. Cemi kolega _ Jurnalisti maka mosiaSvili,<br />
sami mcirewlovani Svilis deda (mesame<br />
bavSvi Tveebis moglijes mkerdidan) imitom<br />
gamoamwyvdies cixeSi, rom onkologiuri<br />
daavadebis mqone SvilisTvis operaciis<br />
fulis saSovnelad kanoni daarRvia. xom SeiZleboda<br />
misTvis Tavisufleba ar aRekveTaT<br />
ar daejarimebinaT da wlobiT Svilebisagan<br />
ar moeSorebinaT. amas winaT igi `jojoxeTidan~,<br />
damikavSirda telefoniT da gamwarebulma<br />
SemomCivla: stiqias TelavSi Cemi<br />
sacxovrebeli saxlisTvis sul auxdia saxuravi<br />
da Svilebs da dedas Tavze awvimTo.<br />
rodesac moxuc dedas daxmarebisaTvis Telavis<br />
adgilobrivi gamgeobisaTvis miumarTavs,<br />
qalisTvis uTqvamT: _`qaliSvili cixidan<br />
rom gamova, is gadagixuravTo~. ai, nacionaluri<br />
cinizmi da `nulovani tolerantobis~<br />
Sedegi.<br />
sainteresoa, batonma prezidentma Tu<br />
icis, an Tu hkiTxa vinmes ramdeni Jurnalisti<br />
hyavs cixeSi tyved ayvanili? magram vici,<br />
es kiTxva mas ar gauCndeba. mTeli qar-<br />
Tuli media mis tyveobaSia. mis borkilebs<br />
marTlac bevri gayiduli Jurnalisti daaTrevs<br />
da manamde mouwevs Treva, sanam am qveyanaSi<br />
erTi nacionalic ki SemorCeba, magram<br />
prezidentma isic unda icodes, rom meoTxe<br />
xelisufleba TiTqmis gamodis tusaRobidan,<br />
bevri kidev rCeba da agrZelebs kontrols.<br />
neta, ra miiRo Cveni daWeriT, rom icodes,<br />
ra kargad Cans cixidan mis mier daqceuli<br />
saqarTvelo, vidre `rusTavi-2~-is da `imedis~<br />
arxidan. ras fiqrobdnen misi usamarTlo<br />
samarTlis damcvelebi, roca yofili tele-Jurnalisti<br />
lali gocaZe daapatimres da<br />
ori Svilis dedas cixeSi ukres Tavi: `eWvmitanili<br />
xar fulis gaTeTrebaSio~ uflebawarTmeul<br />
Jurnalists uTqvams, ar vici,<br />
fuli rogor TeTrdebao, maSin gamomZiebels<br />
upasuxia: _`Sen magas sanam gaigeb, manamde axla<br />
rasac gikarnaxeb, is dawere, Torem cixe-<br />
Si didxans mogiwevs yuryutio, fulis ga-<br />
TeTreba ver gimtkicdeba, magram sabuTis gayalbebas<br />
dagimtkicebTo~... Cemma megobarma<br />
Jurnalistma mTeli `sroki~ telefonis aparatTan<br />
gaatara, misi mcirewlovani biWuna ki<br />
dRemde ocnebobs: rom gaizrdeba, reJisori<br />
gaxdes da gadaiRos filmi imis Sesaxeb,<br />
Svils dedas rom uWeren, Svili ra gancdeb-<br />
Sia... pedagog qals _ ia masxaraSvils, roca<br />
paemnebis oTaxSi 12 wlis gogonam moakiTxa,<br />
bavSvma dedas uTxra: `deda, sul vfiqrob,<br />
danaSauli Cavidino, maRaziis vitrinebi Cavamtvrio,<br />
rom damiWiron, mere mainc xom<br />
SenTan viqnebi, magram gavige 12 wlis bavSvebs,<br />
Turme ar iWeren da gadavifiqreo~. qu-<br />
TaisSi mcxovreb, erT dros didi Tanamdebobis<br />
pirs roca meuRle daupatimres, kaci<br />
iseT mZime fsiqologiur mdgomareobaSi aRmoCnda<br />
Turme, rom cixis kedlebs ar Sordeboda,<br />
dRe da Rame iq iyo. cixis administraciidan<br />
mas Turme uTxres: wadi saxlSi, jer<br />
Tqvens meuRles cixidan aravin gamouSvebso.<br />
mosiyvarule qmari ki wasulia saxlSi, magram<br />
Rame sigaretis namwvisgan saxls xanZari<br />
gasCenia da kaci sakuTar saxlSi damwvara...<br />
es faqtic xom nulovani tolerantobis Sedegia.<br />
amas winaT, veraze erTi cixidan axalgamosuli<br />
axalgazrda qali, qeTi Semxvda. ase-<br />
Ti daRonebuli cixeSic ar minaxavs. erTmaneTi<br />
movikiTxeT, man 6 weliwadi gaatara cixeSi<br />
da es simpaTiuri qali Tavsafrisa da<br />
locvanis wignis gareSe arasdros minaxavs.<br />
xan cixis erT kedelTan idga da Svilebze<br />
loculobda da xan samlocveloSi mTeli<br />
saaTobiT Camuxluli cremliT loculobda.<br />
mTeli es wlebi sinanulSi gaatara, man Tavi<br />
damamaxsovra saukeTeso TvisebebiT. sasjels<br />
narkotikebis SetanisTvis ixdida. ori<br />
Svilis deda ojaxis axlobelma daRupa. mis-<br />
Tvis amanaTis Setana uTxovia da amanaTSi<br />
narkotiki aRmoCnda. ase gaxda<br />
damnaSave... qeTim cixes Tavi daaRwia,<br />
magram didi gansacdeli Turme win<br />
eloda, radgan patimrobidan gaTavisuflebuli<br />
deda sakuTarma Svilebma<br />
ojaxSi ar miiRes, cxvirwin karebi miuxures.<br />
ufros qaliSvils, romelic<br />
24 wlisaa, dedisTvis uTqvms: `Cven es<br />
wlebi damoukideblad cxovrebas miveCvieT<br />
da awi ar gvWirdebio...~ am ambis<br />
mosmenis Semdeg adgilze gavSeSdi,<br />
qeTi verafriT vanugeSe. im wuTSi mixeil<br />
javaxiSvilis `ori ganaCeni~ gamaxsenda,<br />
sadac cixidan gamosul adamians<br />
swored ise uxuraven karebs ojaxis<br />
wevrebi, rogorc qeTis, vTxove, es patara<br />
moTxroba gadaekiTxa. Sevecade, mas sxva TvaliT<br />
Seexeda am marTlacda sulisSemZvreli<br />
faqtisTvis, mas amis unaric aqvs da Zalac<br />
Sewevs, magram sasamarTlos mier gamotanil<br />
ganaCenze mkacri, Svilebis mier gamotanili<br />
ganaCeni aRmoCnda, vkiTxe moZRvari Tu dadioda<br />
SvilebTan. iyo arqimandriti markozi da<br />
gogonebs uTxra: `Tqven dedas ki ara, RmerTs<br />
hkravT xelso... marTlmadidebel adamians unda<br />
SeeZlos patieba da ara gankiTxvao, jerjerobiT<br />
sulierma mamam maT veraferi Seasminao,<br />
_ miTxra qeTim.<br />
mas Semdeg, rac qeTi Semxvda, sul vfiqrob,<br />
sanamde midis adamianis bedi, roca `samarTali<br />
suliT xorcamde maxinjia~. fsiqologebma<br />
unda imuSaon aseT axalgazrdebTan,<br />
unda SeZlon deda-Svils Soris idumalebis<br />
fardis axda. vin gadaawyvetina Svilebs dedisgan<br />
wasvla, ra Zalam ubiZga maT...<br />
dRevandel qalTa cixeSi dedebs ara aqvT<br />
ufleba, xeliT Seexon, moeferon sakuTar<br />
Svilebs, radgan paemnebis oTaxSi minis kedelia<br />
`berlinis kedlad~ aRmarTuli deda-<br />
Svils Soris, iqneb gviTxran, vin rodis, an<br />
romeli kanoniT `akrZala~ dedaSviloba???<br />
nana sulava
#35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
25<br />
jemal davlianiZe<br />
vin daabrala<br />
zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
teroristoba?<br />
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.<br />
`saerTo gazeTi~ #14-34<br />
mware gakveTilebi<br />
evroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo<br />
ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666<br />
icoda Tu ara zviad gamsaxurdiam,<br />
rom maSindeli ruse-<br />
Tis federaciis prezidentTan,<br />
boris elcinTan, saqarTvelos<br />
kanonieri xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg,<br />
gamalebuli da xelebdakapiwebuli<br />
muSaobda eduard<br />
SevardnaZe? da, rom mama jorj<br />
buSsac manve Caagona _ zviad<br />
gamsaxurdia dinebis sawinaaRmdegod<br />
micuravs da es ambavi<br />
saxalxod, mTeli msoflios gasagonad<br />
unda iTqvaso?<br />
ra Tqma unda, zviadma icoda<br />
yovelive, magram mainc, kidev<br />
erTxel da albaT sabolood,<br />
Seecada miemarTa boris<br />
elcinisaTvis, rom xuntam Seteva<br />
specialurad daiwyo 1991<br />
wlis 22 dekembers, raTa saqar-<br />
Tvelos respublikis prezidenti<br />
alma-aTaSi ar Casuliyo da<br />
dsT-Si Sesvlis Taobaze gancxadeba<br />
ar gaekeTebina!<br />
SeiZleba Tamamad iTqvas,<br />
rom 1991 wlis 22 dekembers<br />
saqarTvelos kanonieri xelisuflebis<br />
winaaRmdeg dawyebuli<br />
kriminalur-samxedro gadatrialeba,<br />
Cveni qveynis winaaRmdeg<br />
mowyobil, msoflio demonuri<br />
Zalebis mier Cafiqrebuli<br />
SeTqmulebis ganxorcielebas<br />
warmoadgenda!<br />
sul sxva saqmea imis garCeva<br />
Tu garkveva, - vin ra moigo<br />
saqarTvelos Tavze damtydari<br />
ubedurebiT!<br />
erTi ram ki aSkaraa: waago<br />
qarTvelma xalxma.<br />
da kidev: Zalian didi dartyma<br />
miayenes qarTveli da rusi<br />
xalxebis urTierTobas.<br />
dRevandeli gadasaxedidan<br />
ki, imis Tqmacaa SesaZlebeli,<br />
rom arc amJamindeli ruseTis<br />
federaciis xelisuflebas aZlevda<br />
xels maSindeli Secdomebis<br />
eqo, - dRevandeli vi-<br />
Tareba samxreT kavkasiaSi, ker-<br />
Zod _ saqarTveloSi!<br />
ratom?<br />
imitom, rom saboloo jam-<br />
Si, mogebuli darCa evroamerikuli<br />
saxli, romelmac mtkiced<br />
Semoabija da damkvidrda<br />
saqarTveloSi!<br />
elcinis Semdgom, ruseTis<br />
xelisuflebi ukve naTlad hxedaven<br />
maT Tvalwin agorebul<br />
problemas da vin icis, iqneba<br />
kidec nanoben TavianTi winamorbedebis<br />
mier xelnakrav zviad<br />
gamsaxurdias, romelic arc<br />
natoSi apirebda gawevrianebas,<br />
arc marTlmadideblobaze ambobda<br />
uars da ruseTTan mWidro<br />
ekonomikuri da kulturuli<br />
urTierTobis Semdgom gaRrmavebas<br />
apirebda.<br />
unda vivaraudoT, rom SevardnaZis<br />
meoxebiT, evroamerikam<br />
diplomatiurad gaacura<br />
elcinis xelisufleba da Soreul<br />
perspeqtivaSi mogebulic<br />
darCa.<br />
am dros eduard SevardnaZe<br />
arxeinad iZleoda interviuebs<br />
da qarTvelobas amunaTebda:<br />
`qarTvel SevardnaZes araferi<br />
gaukeTebia samSoblosaTvis,<br />
roca sabWoTa kavSiris sagareo<br />
saqmeTa ministri iyoo.<br />
me ki ar mWirdeba qarTul gazeTebSi<br />
informacia imis Sesaxeb,<br />
rom yofil sagareo saqme-<br />
Ta ministrs eduard Sevardna-<br />
Zes evropisa da amerikis wamyvani<br />
universitetebis sapatio<br />
doqtoris wodeba mianiWes, es<br />
sWirdeba qarTvel xalxs, romelsac<br />
arwmuneben, Seni Svili<br />
abrkolebs saqarTvelos diplomatiur<br />
cnobaso. is mainc<br />
daijereT, rom Cems pativsacemad,<br />
Tu gnebavT _ qarTveli<br />
xalxis sapativsacemod, amerikis<br />
SeerTebuli Statebis saxelmwifo<br />
departamentSi kaxuri<br />
mravalJamieric Sesrulda~<br />
(gazeTi `saqarTvelos respublika~<br />
#16-17, 1992 wlis 31<br />
ianvari. interviu aRebulia<br />
1991 wlis 15 seqtembers).<br />
rogorc xedavT, 1992 wlis<br />
31 ianvars daibeWda 1991 wlis<br />
15 seqtembers aRebuli interviu.<br />
es ukanaskneli is droa,<br />
roca mTavrobis saxlTan e.w.<br />
opoziciis anu kriminaluri<br />
xuntis mitingebia da samzadisia<br />
saboloo SetevisaTvis, xolo<br />
1992 wlis 31 ianvars, samxedro<br />
gadatrialeba ukve momxdaria<br />
da saqarTveloSi mZvinvarebs<br />
saSineli terori qarTveli<br />
xalxis winaaRmdeg. ai,<br />
swored am dros, eduard SevardnaZes,<br />
Turme evroamerikis<br />
`wamyvani universitetebi sapatio<br />
doqtoris~ wodebas aniWeben,<br />
xolo amerikis SeerTebuli<br />
Statebis saxelmwifo departamentSi<br />
dResaswaulia, sufraa<br />
gaSlili da SevardnaZis sapativsacemod<br />
kaxur mravalJamiers<br />
mRerian (gaurkvevelia _<br />
TviTon amerikulia ansambli<br />
Tu saqarTvelodan arian mivlinebulni!).<br />
ra SeiZleba Tqvas kacma, yovelive<br />
amis Semxedvarem?<br />
ra emRereboda amerikis SeerTebuli<br />
Statebis departaments,<br />
roca saqarTveloSi ubedureba<br />
trialebda?<br />
ratom ajildoebdnen, ra<br />
damsaxurebis gamo ajildoebdnen<br />
evropisa da amerikis wamyvani<br />
universitetebi Sevardna-<br />
Zes?<br />
pasuxi erTaderTia: SevardnaZe<br />
maT mier Cafiqrebul<br />
rTul amocanas asrulebda!<br />
igi xelmZRvanelobda<br />
1991-1992<br />
wlebis kriminalur-samxedro<br />
gadatrialebas<br />
saqarTveloSi!<br />
aba, vis SeeZlo amdeni<br />
saSineleba daetexa<br />
qveynisaTvis Tu ara SevardnaZes?<br />
aba, vis wamoscdeboda<br />
es sityvebi, Tu ara<br />
SevardnaZes:<br />
`roca eqsprezidentis<br />
(zviad gamsaxurdia<br />
hyavs mxedvelobaSi! _<br />
j.d.) momxreebze vlaparakobT,<br />
mgonia cotas<br />
vaWarbebT, radgan, kacs, romelic<br />
cnobil teroristad aris<br />
aRiarebuli, ara mgonia mxardamWerebi<br />
hyavdes. teroristebi<br />
arsad aravis ar uyvars~ (gaze-<br />
Ti `saqarTvelos respublika~<br />
#263, 1992 wlis 29 dekemberi).<br />
ra aris SevardnaZis<br />
Tavxedobis da siTamamis<br />
mizezi? vin aRiara zviad<br />
gamsaxurdia `cnobil teroristad~?<br />
pasuxi calsaxaa _<br />
mTelma dasavleTma da<br />
amerikam. im qveynebma, vinc<br />
SevardnaZes sapatio doqtoris<br />
wodebas aniWebda<br />
da imaT, vinc saxelmwifo<br />
departamentSi mravalJamiers<br />
umRerda!<br />
SevardnaZem<br />
specialurad<br />
gaamaTxovra<br />
mosaxleoba<br />
roca SevardnaZes evroamerika<br />
`did politikoss~<br />
uxmobs, roca ajildoebs<br />
da roca simReras<br />
umRerian, saqarTveloSi<br />
amgvari saSineli situaciaa<br />
(gazeTi `saqarTvelos samreklo~,<br />
#17, 1997 w. statiis<br />
saTauria: `dRevandel saqarTveloSi<br />
monaTmflobelobac ki<br />
sanatrelia~, avtori jemal<br />
davlianiZe):<br />
`dRevandel saqarTveloSi<br />
samuSao ar arsebobs.<br />
visac xelfasi da pensia gaaCnia<br />
_ odenoba gaxlavT 10<br />
lari (daaxloebiT 4 dolari!).<br />
SevardnaZis coli -nanuli<br />
SevardnaZe televiziiT cinikurad<br />
acxadebs, rom `kargma diasaxlisma<br />
10 lari ojaxis gamosakvebad<br />
unda imyofinos!~<br />
metroSi samgzavrod saWiroa<br />
20 TeTri. Tu kviraSi metroTi<br />
imgzavreb mxolod orjer<br />
_ maSin samkacian ojaxs<br />
TveSi sWirdeba 3 lari da 20<br />
TeTri... ojaxs sWirdeba puri,<br />
romelic hRirs 45 TeTri. samkacian<br />
ojaxs yovel dRe minimum<br />
sWirdeba 2 puri. maSasadame,<br />
TveSi 27 lari. Tu SevardnaZes<br />
ori puri did fufunebad<br />
miaCnia, davyabuldeT, rom<br />
samkacian ojaxs dReSi ori puris<br />
nacvlad eyofa 1 puri. ma-<br />
Sin TveSi saWiroa 13 lari da<br />
50 TeTri.<br />
axla SevkriboT:<br />
metros Tviuri safasuria 3<br />
lari da 20 TeTri.<br />
puris fuli TveSi 13 lari<br />
da 50 TeTri...<br />
ese igi, sam kacs TveSi sul<br />
16 lari da 70 TeTri esaWiroeba,<br />
Tu imyofinebs dReSi 1<br />
purs da metroTi Tu imgzavrebs<br />
kviraSi orjer.<br />
am dros SevardnaZis mier<br />
daniSnuli xelfasia 10 lari.<br />
es wyeuli, televiziiT,<br />
presiT, radioTi acxadebs, rom<br />
gadaixadeT da sinaTle geqnebaTo.<br />
sinaTlis fuli xalxs ar<br />
gaaCnia.<br />
skolebSi moswavleebs fuls<br />
agrovebineben maswavleblebi.<br />
amasTan erTad, bavSvma<br />
Tan unda miitanos navTi da Se-<br />
Sa RumelisTvis.<br />
bavSvebs esaWiroebaT winda,<br />
fexsacmeli, tanisamosi, CanTa,<br />
saskolo wignebi, saxatavi, saweri<br />
rveulebi.<br />
ojaxSi saWiroa saponi, sarecxis<br />
fxvnili... puris garda,<br />
aucilebelia sxva saxis sakvebi<br />
produqtebi: Saqari, burRuli,<br />
brinji, lobio, kartofili.<br />
aRarafers vambobT rZis produqtebze,<br />
xorcze...<br />
es, rac bavSvs unda gaaCndes.<br />
ra hqnas mozrdilma?<br />
ra hqnas mSobelma?<br />
vTqvaT, mSoblebi SiSveltitvelni<br />
arian!<br />
vTqvaT, Zveli tomris nafleTebiT<br />
Seimosnen!<br />
sWirdebaT Tu ara maT saWmeli?<br />
vTqvaT, mSoblebi ar Cadian<br />
metroSi da ekonomiis mizniT,<br />
mxolod fexiT dadian!<br />
fexsacmeli zamTarSi, sicivisas<br />
xom mainc aris aucilebeli?<br />
Semdgom: wylis gadasaxadi!<br />
sinaTlis fuli!<br />
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tkbileulze da sxvadasxva<br />
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Tu adamiani avad gaxda?<br />
ra Rirs wamali?<br />
Tu mSobels operacia das-<br />
Wirda?<br />
gasayidi Tu aRaraferia?<br />
Tu adamiani gardaicvala?<br />
ra Rirs kubo?<br />
ra Rirs Rvino?<br />
ra Rirs sasaflaoze qarTuli<br />
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Wiro?<br />
rac ver CamovTvaleT?<br />
10 lari gind gqonia, gind<br />
_ ara!<br />
da, am qveynis e.w. meTauri<br />
SevardnaZe, rom gamodis da<br />
trabaxobs msoflios gasagonad:<br />
qveyana fexze dgeba, ukve<br />
welSi gavimarTeTo, ramdenad<br />
Seesabameba sinamdviles?<br />
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dros ar yofila amgvari ga-<br />
Wirveba arc erT qveyanaSi, rac<br />
dRes saqarTveloSia.<br />
arsad ar gagonila amgvari<br />
cinizmi xelisuflebis mxridan,<br />
rac dRes saqarTveloSia!~<br />
iqneb vinmem ukve gaifiqra _<br />
am SevardnaZes ras Caacivda, gavigeT<br />
ra monstric yofilao.<br />
ver dageTanxmebiT, Cemo<br />
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* * *<br />
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Si (muxli 181)?<br />
_ gamoZalva aris sxvisi niv-<br />
Tis an qonebrivi uflebis gadacemis<br />
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* * *<br />
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* * *<br />
_ vin acxadebs amnistias<br />
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amnistiis aqtiT?<br />
_ amnistias acxadebs<br />
saqarTvelos parlamenti<br />
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anda misTvis daniSnuli sasjeli<br />
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ufro msubuqi sasjeliT.<br />
sasjelmoxdils amnistiis aqtiT<br />
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* * *<br />
_ ra vadebSi gaqarwyldeba<br />
arasrulwlovanis nasamarTleoba?<br />
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gamosacdeli vadis gasvlis Semdeg;<br />
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ufro msubuqi sasjeliT msjavrdebisas<br />
_ sasjelis moxdidan eqvsi<br />
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wlis Semdeg.<br />
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aRkveTiT msjavrdebisas<br />
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wlis Semdeg;<br />
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SaulisaTvis Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT<br />
msjavrdebisas sasjelis<br />
moxdidan 5 wlis Semdeg.<br />
* * *<br />
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ganzrax mZime dazianebaSi?<br />
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ganmavlobaSi unda SeitanoT gancxadeba<br />
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igi SeiZleba sasamarTlom<br />
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* * *<br />
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ufleba warTmeuli.<br />
* * *<br />
_ ra SemTxvevaSi iniSneba<br />
sasjelis saxiT uvado Tavisuflebis<br />
aRkveTa?<br />
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51-e muxlis I nawilis mixedviT,<br />
uvado Tavisuflebis aRkve-<br />
Ta SeiZleba dainiSnos mxolod<br />
gansakuTrebiT mZime danaSaulisaTvis.<br />
* * *<br />
_ mekuTvnis Tu ara Svebuleba<br />
axalSobilis Svilad ayvanis<br />
gamo? romeli kanonis mixedviT?<br />
_ gekuTvniT.<br />
Tu Tqven iSvileT erT wlamde<br />
asakis bavSvi, Tqveni moTxovnis<br />
safuZvelze, mogecemaT Svebuleba<br />
axalSobilis Svilad ayvanis<br />
gamo. misi xangrZlivobaa<br />
bavSvis dabadebidan 365 kalendaruli<br />
dRis odenobiT. am Svebulebidan<br />
anazRaurebadia 70 kalendaruli<br />
dRe.<br />
aRniSnulTan dakavSirebiT,<br />
SegiZliaT gaecnoT 2006 wlis<br />
25 agvistos saqarTvelos Sromis,<br />
janmrTelobisa da socialuri<br />
dacvis ministris #231-n<br />
brZanebas _`orsulobis, mSobiarobisa<br />
da bavSvis movlis, aseve<br />
axalSobilis Svilad ayvanis gamo<br />
Svebulebis anazRaurebis wesi~.<br />
* * *<br />
_ viyavi sajaro moxele.<br />
ra vadaSi SemiZlia gavasa-<br />
Civro samsaxuridan ukanonod<br />
gaTavisuflebis Sesaxeb?<br />
ris moTxovnis ufleba<br />
maqvs?<br />
_ sajaro samsaxuridan<br />
ukanonod gaTavisuflebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi Tqven ufleba<br />
gaqvT, moiTxovoT gaTavisuflebis<br />
ukanonod cnoba,<br />
gaTavisuflebis safuZvlis<br />
Secvla da xelfasis anazRaureba<br />
samsaxurSi iZulebiT<br />
aryofnis mTeli periodis<br />
ganmavlobaSi.<br />
Tqven ufleba gaqvT, kanonmdeblobiT<br />
dadgenili wesiT, er-<br />
Ti Tvis vadaSi gaasaCivroT sasamarTloSi<br />
samsaxurebriv sakiTxebze<br />
gamocemuli brZaneba, gankarguleba,<br />
gadawyvetileba, agreTve,<br />
moqmedeba. brZaneba, gankarguleba<br />
SeiZleba exebodes nebismier<br />
sakiTxs, rogoricaa: ga-<br />
Tavisufleba, gadayvana sxva Tanamdebobaze,<br />
SromiTi pirobebis<br />
darRveva da a.S.<br />
Tu Tqveni gaTavisuflebis<br />
dros darRveulia gaTavisuflebis<br />
wesi, aRniSnuli, sasamarTlo<br />
wesiT Tqveni samsaxurSi aRdgenis<br />
safuZvels warmoadgens.<br />
sasamarTlos mier samsaxuridan<br />
gaTavisuflebaze an gadayvanaze<br />
gacemuli brZanebis, gankargulebis<br />
an gadawyvetilebis arakanonierad<br />
aRiarebis SemTxvevaSi<br />
Tqven daeqvemdebarebiT dauyovnebliv<br />
aRdgenas, Tu Tqven uars<br />
ar ganacxadebT aRdgenaze.<br />
xalxis azriT<br />
vaime ))))))))))<br />
xalxi ara xarT?<br />
me mainc damabiT,<br />
imas Tu ver<br />
abamT...<br />
vatyob, miSa damemarTa<br />
))))<br />
euf, ra kargi yofila<br />
sigiJe ))))))<br />
exla gavcem brZanebebs,<br />
CavxeTqav yvelafers,<br />
razec Tvali<br />
mimiva, gadmovyri<br />
dorblebs, mere vujikeb<br />
qalebs da Tavs davakbenineb,<br />
xan velosipeds movaxtebi,<br />
xan kapsulian TviTmfrinavs<br />
da viSopingeb, mere CamoveTrevi<br />
da mTeli Rame karuselebze<br />
buStiT xelSi vikataveb,<br />
mere dilas daviZineb, 4-<br />
5 saaTze waval samsaxurSi<br />
da daretianebuli gavakeTeb<br />
gancxadebas nulovani tolerantobis<br />
Sesaxeb, davayada-<br />
Reb, davaWerineb da davaxocineb<br />
yvelas, vinc CemTan ar<br />
aris da waval..... cixeSi<br />
)))))))))))) am dros azrze<br />
movedi.....<br />
iiif, ra advili yofila<br />
prezidentoba,<br />
roca giJi xar da<br />
gagdis :(((<br />
mokled, calsaxad<br />
da ara orazrovnad,<br />
cxadad da ara SefarviT,<br />
pirdapir<br />
da ara iribad + mTeli, sruli,<br />
absoluturi pasuxismgeblobiT<br />
vacxadeb, rom<br />
“Jurnalistebi” (maT Soris,<br />
produserebi, wamyvanebi, wamomyvanebi<br />
da a.S-ebi) romlebic<br />
muSaoben sazmaus, rusTavi<br />
oris, imedis, real-tivis,<br />
aWaris televiziis sainformacio<br />
samsaxurebSi, - ar<br />
arian Jurnalistebi, isini<br />
arian iseTive damnaSaveebi,<br />
rogoric xelisufleba! isini<br />
araTu danaSauls Cadian,<br />
aramed fuTaven, Tvals xuWaven<br />
da tiraJirebas uweven<br />
xelisuflebis moRalate,<br />
danaSaulebriv qmedebebs!!<br />
mokled rogorc gavige<br />
kaxeTSi, konkretulad<br />
sofel<br />
xaSmSi magari mZime<br />
nacionalurad daavadebuli<br />
mdgomareobaa da saswrafod<br />
undaT alternatiuli da sa-<br />
Ri azriT mkurnaloba :) rogorc<br />
viciT kaxeTSi cota<br />
mZime xalxia da Znelad midis<br />
maTTan wamloba amitom<br />
iaqtiuros yvelam visac evaleba<br />
rom cota Seafxizlon<br />
baxtrionis mxare!!!!<br />
omi yvelam wavageT<br />
– qarTvelebmac,<br />
afxazebmac, osebmac.<br />
omi mxolod politikosebma<br />
moiges – Cveni dapirispirebiT,<br />
Cveni Zmebis<br />
sisxliT SeinarCunes Cvenze<br />
batonoba. omi swored maSin<br />
iwyeba, roca Zveli omis monawile,<br />
xelisuflebis yvela<br />
warmomadgeneli fiqrobs ara<br />
Sendobaze, aramed saubrobs<br />
omSi gamarjvebulis eniTa da<br />
ganwyobiT.<br />
miSa minda rogorme<br />
amovaTrio Waobidan,<br />
rom vixsna misi ukvdavi<br />
suli, amitom<br />
vaZlev xmas biZinas<br />
awyureli glexi,<br />
romelmac prezidentis<br />
sadRegrZelo<br />
ar dalia, daapatimres.<br />
beriZeze fizikuri zewola<br />
ar yofila. dakavebuli<br />
manamde ar gamouSves winaswari<br />
dakavebis saknidan,<br />
vidre gansxvavebuli sasmisiT<br />
5-jer ar daalevines<br />
prezidentis sadRegrZelo.<br />
“5-jer imitom daalevines<br />
miSas sadRegrZelo, rom xu-<br />
Tiani nacionalTa sarCevno<br />
nomeria. amiT beriZes Tan<br />
dascinodnen da abuCad igdebdnen.<br />
SemogvierTdi<br />
facebook-ze<br />
`saerTo gazeTi~
C M Y K<br />
24 28 saerTo gazeTi #35 (219), 15-21.VIII, 2012 w.<br />
29 wlis britanels<br />
saocari organizmi aqvs<br />
29 wlis daniel<br />
iangs araCveulebrivi<br />
qaluri organoebi<br />
aqvs. amis Sesaxeb<br />
misTvisac da samedicino<br />
wreebisTvisac<br />
cnobili gaxda maSin,<br />
roca daniel iangi<br />
18 wlis iyo. qalbatons<br />
ori saSvilosno<br />
aqvs, rac bavSvis<br />
dabadebisa da CasaxvisTvis<br />
seriozuli<br />
dabrkolebaa. ori patara<br />
saSvilosno amcirebs<br />
normaluri<br />
orsulobis SesaZleblobas. daniels daavadebuli hqonda kvercxsavali<br />
mili da wesiT, is ar unda daorsulebuliyo, magram<br />
man gaaoca eqimebi, roca daorsulda da gaaCina kidevac gogona,<br />
saxelad peiji, xuTi wlis winaT.<br />
man meore orsulobiT kidev ufro gaagona eqimebi.<br />
denieli tyupebis deda gaxda. mis orive saSvilosnoSi nayofi<br />
aRmoCnda. aseTi SemTxveva milionSi xuTia, orsulobis periodis<br />
Semdeg, romelic garTulebebis gareSe mimdinareobda,<br />
denielma tyupebi _ gogona da vaJi gaaCina.<br />
umniSvnelo stresic ki<br />
zrdis sikvdilis risks<br />
edinburgis universitetis<br />
mecnierebma<br />
kvleva Caatares,<br />
gamoikiTxa<br />
68000 zrdasruli<br />
adamiani 35 wlisa da<br />
ufrosi asakisa.<br />
mkvlevarebma fsiqologiuri<br />
stresi<br />
sxvadasxva sasikvdilo<br />
daavadebis mizezad<br />
daasaxeles, maT<br />
Soris gul-sisxl-<br />
ZarRvTa daavadebis, kibos da sxva momakvdinebeli daavadebebisa.<br />
ase, rom, erideT stress.<br />
egvipteli mamakacebic<br />
warbebs iputavdnen<br />
Zvel egvipteSi<br />
qalebic da mamakacebic<br />
warbebs iputavdnen<br />
mwuxarebis niSnad<br />
im SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tu ojaxSi kata moukvdebodaT.<br />
saqme<br />
imaSia, rom kata<br />
wminda cxovelad<br />
iTvleboda da misi<br />
sikvdili ojaxis<br />
tragediad miiCneoda.<br />
arqeologebma uZvelesi<br />
kbilis proTezi aRmoaCines<br />
anapis gaTxrebSi arqeologebma uZvelesi kbilis proTezi<br />
aRmoaCines, romelic yvelaze Zvelia kacobriobis istoriaSi.<br />
unikaluri aRmoCena `roza luqsemburgi-1~-is samarxSi ipoves<br />
anapaSi. samarxSi mamakacis Zvlebi iqna aRmoCenili. micvalebuli<br />
35 wlis iqneboda, xolo qalbatonebi, daaxloebiT, 22-35<br />
wlisa. samarxebi brinjaos xanas miekuTvneba (II aTaswleuli<br />
Cv.w.aR-mde).<br />
eqspediciis xelmZRvaneloba<br />
aRniSnavs,<br />
rom samarxSi<br />
brinjaos monetebic<br />
aris aRmoCenili, keramikac.<br />
Tavis qalis daTvalierebis<br />
Semdeg<br />
aRmoCnda, rom didgvarovani<br />
mamakacebi kbilis xelovnur proTezs atarebdnen. savaraudod,<br />
micvalebulebs kbilebis daavadebis _ paradontozis<br />
gamo kbilebis umravlesoba Camoscvivda. proTezis zeda nawili<br />
24X12 milimetris ovaluri formis figura iyo. iseTi proTezi<br />
SesaZlebeli iyo mflobels etarebina wlebis ganmavlobaSi.<br />
xalebi sicocxlis<br />
xangrZlivobaze miuTiTebs<br />
ingliseli mecnierebi<br />
karga xans irwmunebodnen,<br />
rom xalebis simravle<br />
janmrTelobisTvis<br />
saSiSroebas warmoadgens.<br />
magram aRmoCnda piriqiT,<br />
xalebi sicocxlis xangrZlivobasa<br />
da janmrTelobaze<br />
miuTiTebs.<br />
kvleva londonis samefo<br />
kolejis eqspertebma<br />
Caatares. maTi mtkicebiT,<br />
adamianebi, romelTa tanzec SesaZlebelia 100-mde xalis<br />
aRmoCena, nela berdebian da 7 wliT ufro axalgazrdad gamoiyurebian,<br />
vidre misi asakis sxva adamianebi. amasTanave, maT aqvT<br />
ufro Zlieri Zvlebi, rac icavs osteoporozisagan, xalebi<br />
kunTebis ganviTarebasac uwyoben xels, pasuxismgebelia Tvalebis<br />
da gulis janmrTelobaze. agreTve xalebi icaven kibos daavadebisagan.<br />
ase, rom xalebi ufro meti sikeTis momtania, vidre<br />
borotebis.<br />
gamoikvlies 1200 mdedrobiTi sqesis tyupi 18-dan 79 wlamde.<br />
aRmoCnda, rom maT, visac 100-ze meti xali hqondaT, naklebad<br />
avaddebian osteoporoziT da gacilebiT axalgazrdad<br />
gamoiyurebian.<br />
kleopatra narkotikebis<br />
gadaWarbebulma dozam imsxverpla<br />
germaneli mecnierebi<br />
mividnen im daskvnamde, rom<br />
dedofalma kleopatra<br />
VII-m sicocxle TviTmkvlelobiT<br />
daasrula. man<br />
miiRo opiumi da sxva damaTrobeli<br />
saSualebebi,<br />
romlebic iwvevs umtkivneulo,<br />
nel sikvdils ramdenime<br />
saaTis ganmavlobaSi.<br />
adre cnobili iyo, rom<br />
igi Sxamiani kobris nakbenisgan gardaicvala, magram mecnierebma<br />
uaryves es versia, radgan dedofali cnobili iyo Tavisi silamaziT<br />
da gvelis nakbenis Semdeg misi sxeuli laqebiT daifareboda.<br />
`aseT sikvdilamde adamiani nel-nela midis, ramdenime saa-<br />
Tis ganmavlobaSi, yovelgvari tkivilis da garegnuli cvlilebis<br />
gareSe. afasebda Tavis silamazes da amitomac ar surda<br />
ganecada xangrZlivi sasikvdilo agonia, rac gvelis nakbenis<br />
Sedegad iyo mosalodneli~, _ wers mkvlevari kristof Seferi.<br />
_ dokumentebis mixedviT, mas surda sikvdilis Semdegac<br />
lamazi yofiliyo, raTa legendad darCeniliyo istoriaSi. man<br />
icoda amis fasi~.<br />
kvlevis mixedviT, kleopatra Cv.w.aR-mde 69 wels dabadebula<br />
da gardacvlila Cv.w.aR.-mde 30 wlis 12 agvistos.<br />
fulis xis saidumloebani<br />
TiTqmis yvela ojax-<br />
Si SeniSnavT fulis<br />
xes, romelic fen-Suis<br />
mixedviT, baraqas moaswavebs,<br />
magram bevrma<br />
arc icis, rogor mouaros<br />
mas.<br />
igi unda moaTavsoT<br />
sacxovrebeli saxlis<br />
samxreT-aRmosavleT<br />
mxares, radgan es simdidris<br />
saidumlo adgilia.<br />
zustad am adgilidan SeZlebs igi moutanos Tqvens ojaxs<br />
baraqa da simdidre.<br />
ufro meti warmatebisTvis mcenaris ylorts wiTeli lenti<br />
SeabiT, romelzec sasurvelia Cinuri fuli da kvadratuli<br />
figurebi iyos Camokidebuli.<br />
moamzada<br />
ana vadaWkoriam<br />
astrologiuri<br />
prognozi<br />
verZi _ aqtiuri da energiuli<br />
gaxdebiT, optimisturi<br />
ganwyoba dageuflebaT.<br />
kuro _ es periodi ekonomikur<br />
stabilurobas<br />
mogitanT. Tamamad Segi-<br />
ZliaT, xarjoT fuli. finnsuri<br />
operaciebi amjerad Zalze sarfianad<br />
warimarTeba.<br />
tyupebi _ Seqmnili vi-<br />
Tareba xels Seuwyobs<br />
Tqveni pirovnuli Tvisebebis<br />
da SemoqmedebiTi monacemebis<br />
gamovlenas. gagiCndebaT survili,<br />
siamovneba mianiWoT yvelas.<br />
kirCxibi _ Zalauflebis<br />
da winsvlis survili<br />
TanamSromlebTan situaciis<br />
daZabvas gamoiwvevs.<br />
lomi _ xelsayreli<br />
droa ganaTlebis donis<br />
asamaRleblad. enTuziazmi<br />
dagexmarebaT samsaxurebrivi<br />
problemebis mogvarebasa da saqmian<br />
partniorebTan xelSekrulebebis<br />
dadebaSi.<br />
qalwuli _ aqtiuri<br />
da intensiuri urTirTobebi<br />
partniorebTan SesamCnev<br />
pirovnebebad gaqcevT. gagi-<br />
CndebaT survili, ipovoT saku-<br />
Tari adgili sazogadoebaSi, Tumca<br />
Tqveni winsvla damokidebuli<br />
iqneba imaze, ramdenad Se-<br />
ZlebT mowinaaRmdegeTa damarcxebas.<br />
saswori _ Tu gsurT,<br />
SeinarCunoT ekonomikuri<br />
stabiluroba, saWiroa rame<br />
principulad gansxvavebuls<br />
mohkidoT xeli.<br />
morieli _ ojaxis wevrebsa<br />
da TanamSromlebze<br />
zrunva mniSvnelovani saqmeebis<br />
keTebisgan mogacdenT. Seqmnili<br />
viTareba xSirad gibi-<br />
ZgebT naCqarevi gadawvetilebebis<br />
miRebisa da windauxedavi nabijebis<br />
gadadgmisken.<br />
mSvildosani _ Tqvens<br />
yuradRebas mTlanad ojaxuri<br />
saqmeebi miipyrobs.<br />
aramdgradi konomkuri mdgomareobidan<br />
gamosavals ipoviT im SemTxvevaSi,<br />
Tu ucxoel partniorebTan<br />
SeZlebT kavSiris damyarebas.<br />
Txis rqa _ Tqveni yuradReba<br />
Zvel saqmeebze iqneba<br />
mipyrobili. nu ai-<br />
RebT sakuTar Tavze zedmet pasuxismgeblobas.<br />
merwyuli _ droa,<br />
ojaxuri kavSirebis ganmtkicebas<br />
an partnioris<br />
Ziebas SeudgeT. es periodi ara-<br />
Cveulebrivia sasiyvarulo urTierTobebisTvis,<br />
Tumca SeecadeT,<br />
partnioris Tavisufleba ar SezRudoT.<br />
Tevzebi _ Tqveni swrafva<br />
ganaxlebisken konkretul<br />
saxes SeiZens. mogecemaT<br />
Sansi, SeicvaloT bina,<br />
profesia an samuSao adgili.<br />
amave nomris skanvordis pasuxebi:<br />
skanvordi<br />
1.prestiJi. 2. kidevac. 3. katmandu. 4.<br />
damsaxureba. 5. vronski. 6. nikolas. 7.<br />
tamponi. 8. magniti. 9. jili. 10. xinji.<br />
11. jamfila. 12. fanji. 13. tafa. 14. di-<br />
Joni. 15. idalgo. 16. peJo. 17. defisi. 18.<br />
qaji. 19. materia. 20. yabalaxi. 21. xrinwi.<br />
22. onkologi. 23. bayali. 24. Cile.<br />
25. tortila. 26. riki. 27. bela. 28. iniesta.<br />
29. lomberi. 30. bailoni. 31. sena.<br />
32. irmisena. 33. kowia. 34. sanovage. 35.<br />
ifani. 36. rusifikacia. 37. islambadi. 38.<br />
maragi. 39. menji. 40. anabari. 41. elton.<br />
42. fereri. 43. herbert. 44. qimia. 45.<br />
kamboja. 46. filfani. 47. estoneTi. 48.<br />
lao. 49. konstbeli. 50. jakarta. 51. safari.<br />
52. jenaro. 53. kapitani. 54. eskadra.<br />
55. gezi. 56. baskeTi. 57. bade. 58. fabio.<br />
59. mafia. 60. haidni. 61. dedali. 62.<br />
tiki. 63. lomisa. 64. wvima. 65. rene. 66.<br />
berkli. 67. kalibri.
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