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ogor <strong>da</strong> <strong>rodis</strong> <strong>apirebs</strong> <strong>mTavroba</strong><br />

<strong>25</strong>-<strong>pocentiani</strong> saSemosavlo<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>saxadis 15-procentamde<br />

Semcirebas<br />

Jurnali “biznes eqspresi” – 7 Tebervali, # 3, 2008<br />

marTalia, molaparakebebi gaerTianebul opoziciasa <strong>da</strong><br />

xelisuflebas Soris ar <strong>da</strong>srulebula, Tumca ukve amTaviTaa cnobili,<br />

rom es ukanaskneli mza<strong>da</strong>a, <strong>mTavroba</strong> ara mxolod axali prezidentis,<br />

axali parlamentis winaSec iyos angriSvaldebuli. rac imas niSnavs,<br />

rom saparlamento arCevnebis Semdeg axalma parlamentma ndoba axal<br />

ministrTa kabinets <strong>da</strong> mis axal programas un<strong>da</strong> gamoucxados.<br />

miuxe<strong>da</strong>vad am perspeqtivisa, sul axlaxan <strong>da</strong>mtkicebulma <strong>mTavroba</strong>m<br />

ukve warmoadgina programa, metad STambeW<strong>da</strong>vi saxelwodebiT: „erTiani<br />

saqarTvelo siRaribis gareSe“, romlis erT-erTi sikeTe <strong>25</strong>-<br />

procentiani saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadis 15-procentamde Semcirebacaa.<br />

zoga<strong>da</strong>d programis Sefaseba <strong>da</strong>, amis paralelurad, „saqarTvelos<br />

rkinigzisa“ <strong>da</strong> foTis portis privatizaciis aqtualizaciis mizezebis<br />

garkvevas lado papavasTan SevecadeT...<br />

– ramdenad realisturia mTavrobis mier warmodgenili axali<br />

programa?<br />

– parlamentis mier mTavrobisTvis ndobis gamocxadebis komponentia<br />

programis wardgena <strong>da</strong> es praqtika 2004 wlis konstituciuri<br />

cvlilebis Semdeg gaCn<strong>da</strong>, rodesac ministrTa kabineti Seiqmna <strong>da</strong> iqve<br />

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Caiwera, rom ministrTa kabinetis wevrobis kandi<strong>da</strong>tebma un<strong>da</strong><br />

moamzadon programa <strong>da</strong> maTTvis ndobis gamocxadeba programisTvis<br />

ndobis gamocxadebasac niSnavs. miuxe<strong>da</strong>vad imisa, rom me yovelTvis<br />

vuWerdi mxars ministrTa kabinetis aRdgenis ideas, arasdros<br />

viziarebdi moTxovnas programis warmodgenis Sesaxeb: imitom rom im<br />

konstituciur vadebSi, rac prezidents aqvs axali mTavrobis<br />

warsadgenad <strong>da</strong> parlaments misTvis ndobis an undoblobis<br />

gamosacxadeblad, gamoricxulia, <strong>mTavroba</strong>m <strong>da</strong>weros programa. aman<br />

gaaufasura TviTon programis cneba <strong>da</strong>, Sesabamisad, arc erT premierministrs<br />

arasdros arc warmoudgenia programa; es ufro raRac<br />

ganzraxulobaTa oqmis tipis dokumenti iyo <strong>da</strong> konkretulad veravis<br />

veraferze mosTxovdi pasuxs. Tumca es bolo dokumenti, romelsac<br />

aseve hqvia „saqarTvelos mTavrobis programa“, <strong>da</strong> romelsac<br />

parlamentma ndoba gamoucxa<strong>da</strong>, bevrad ukeTesia, vidre wina<br />

dokumentebi, imitom rom aq ukve aris konkretika, magram, miuxe<strong>da</strong>vad<br />

amisa, arc es dokumentia programa, radgan ar aris miTiTebuli ris<br />

safuZvelze <strong>da</strong> ra vadebSi un<strong>da</strong> ganxorcieldes <strong>da</strong>saxuli miznebi <strong>da</strong><br />

konkretulad, vin razea pasuxismgebeli.<br />

– am dokumentSi aRniSnulia, rom <strong>25</strong>-procentiani saSemosavlo<br />

gaadsaxadi, romelic 2008 wlis pirveli ianvri<strong>da</strong>n Sevi<strong>da</strong> ZalaSi, un<strong>da</strong><br />

Semcirdes 15 procentamde. <strong>rogor</strong> <strong>da</strong> <strong>rodis</strong> un<strong>da</strong> moxdes es?<br />

– es saerTod kuriozia: mogexsenebaT, 2008 wli<strong>da</strong>n gauqm<strong>da</strong> socialuri<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi – <strong>da</strong>mqiravebeli aRar ixdis 20-procentian socialur<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>saxads, <strong>da</strong>qiravebuls ki, romelic 2008 wlis pirvel ianvramde 12-<br />

procentian saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxads ixdi<strong>da</strong>, <strong>da</strong>awva <strong>25</strong>-procentiani<br />

saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi. <strong>mTavroba</strong>, ratomRac, utifrad ambobs, rom<br />

<strong>da</strong>qiravebuls ar exeba am ori ga<strong>da</strong>saxadis “gaerTianeba”. marTlac ar<br />

exeba, oRond sabiujeto seqtorSi <strong>da</strong>saqmebulebs <strong>da</strong> ai ratom:<br />

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saxelmwifo seqtorSi yvela ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi, saSemosavlo Tu socialuri,<br />

simboluria. <strong>mTavroba</strong> aZlevs xelfass sabiujeto seqtorSi<br />

<strong>da</strong>saqmebuls <strong>da</strong> iqi<strong>da</strong>nve iRebs ga<strong>da</strong>saxadebs: anu saxelmwifos<br />

biujetis aRricxvis erTi grafi<strong>da</strong>n Tanxa meore grafaSi ga<strong>da</strong>aqvs.<br />

amitom <strong>mTavroba</strong>m, raTa sabiujeto seqtorSi <strong>da</strong>saqmebul pirs xelfasi<br />

ar <strong>da</strong>klebo<strong>da</strong>, Sesabamisi kompensacia Cado xelfasebSi, magram kerZo<br />

seqtorSi es xom ase ar aris?! es <strong>da</strong>mokidebulia <strong>da</strong>qiravebulis keTil<br />

nebaze, mas ki SeuZlia, Tqvas, me ra SuaSi var, <strong>mTavroba</strong>m SemoiRo <strong>25</strong>-<br />

procentiani saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi <strong>da</strong> mas miakiTxeTo. <strong>mTavroba</strong>s ar<br />

un<strong>da</strong> Secdomis aRiareba <strong>da</strong> amitom axla acxadebs, rom saSemosavlo<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>saxdi <strong>25</strong>-<strong>da</strong>n 15-procentamde un<strong>da</strong> <strong>da</strong>viyvanoTo. jer erTi,<br />

TxuTmeti Tormeti ar aris; meorec, ras niSnavs 15-procentamde xuTi<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi Semcireba?! ese igi, ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi, saSualod,<br />

weliwadSi ori procentuli punqtiT un<strong>da</strong> Semcirdes; rac, realurad,<br />

didi veraferi SeRavaTia; ufro metic, programaSi arsad araa<br />

gawerili, Tu <strong>rogor</strong> moxdeba saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadis am ori<br />

procentuli punqtiT saSualo kleba. yovel SemTxvevaSi, faqtia, rom<br />

2008 wels <strong>mTavroba</strong> arafers <strong>apirebs</strong>.<br />

– ratom aris faqti?<br />

– imitom rom 2008 weli <strong>25</strong>-procentiani ga<strong>da</strong>saxadiT <strong>da</strong>viwyeT, biujeti<br />

am principiTaa agebuli <strong>da</strong> jerjerobiT <strong>mTavroba</strong>s aranairi axali<br />

proeqti ar Semoutania.<br />

– gasagebia, rom <strong>da</strong>qiravebulebs ar SeiZleba, mogvewonos <strong>25</strong>-<br />

procentiani saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi. mTavrobisTvis ratomRaa es<br />

Secdoma?<br />

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– mTavrobis amocana un<strong>da</strong> iyos, rom, erTi mxriv, biznesi ganviTardes<br />

<strong>da</strong>, meore mxriv, mosaxleoba iyos kmayofili. mTeli problema isaa,<br />

rom socialuri <strong>da</strong> saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadebis gaerTianeba<br />

SeuZlebelia, radgan maTi baza sxva<strong>da</strong>sxvaa: socialuri ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi<br />

ericxeba xelfass, amitom mas ixdis <strong>da</strong>mqiravebeli, saSemosavlo<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi ki iricxeba xelfasi<strong>da</strong>n <strong>da</strong> mas ixdis <strong>da</strong>qiravebuli.<br />

amdenad, is, rac CevnTan mox<strong>da</strong>, aris ara ori ga<strong>da</strong>saxadis gaerTianeba,<br />

aramed is, rom am qmedebiT viRacas, kerZod, <strong>da</strong>qiravebuls Seumsubuq<strong>da</strong><br />

saga<strong>da</strong>saxado tvirTi. ase rom, gamodis, rom Cveni <strong>mTavroba</strong> aris<br />

<strong>da</strong>mqiraveblebis <strong>da</strong> ara <strong>da</strong>qiravebulebis <strong>mTavroba</strong>. Tumca, radgan<br />

xelisuflebam icis, rom <strong>da</strong>qiravebulebi <strong>da</strong>mqiraveblebze bevrad metni<br />

arian <strong>da</strong> maTi xmebi saWiroa, SeiZleba, saparlamento arCevnebamde<br />

raRac proeqti Semoitanos parlamentSi <strong>da</strong> Tqvas, rom rom<br />

saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi amdeni <strong>da</strong> amdeni procentuli punqtiT<br />

mcirdebao.<br />

– Tumca arCevnebi ver anelebs, magaliTad, privatizaciis siswrafes<br />

<strong>da</strong> gamoikveTa saintereso tendencia: saxelmwifo strategiuli<br />

obieqtebi sxva saxelmwifos mflobelobaSi ga<strong>da</strong>dis.<br />

– Cven ratomRac privatizacias vuwodebT sxva saxelmwifos kapitalis<br />

Semosvlas. es mox<strong>da</strong>, magaliTad, „TbilgazTan“ <strong>da</strong>kavSirebiT, romelic<br />

saqarTvelos saxelmwifo sakuTrebaSi iyo <strong>da</strong> misi myidveli aRmoCn<strong>da</strong><br />

„yazmunaigazi“, yazaxuri kompania, romelic asi procentiT yazaxeTis<br />

saxelmwifo sakuTrebaa. es aris ara privatizacia, radganac<br />

saqarTvelos saxelmwifo sakuTreba yazaxeTis saxelmwifos ga<strong>da</strong>veciT.<br />

marTalia, mesakuTre Seicvala, magram is ar gax<strong>da</strong> kerZo mesakuTre.<br />

amiT Cvenma <strong>mTavroba</strong>m aCvena, rom yazaxi saxelmwifo menejerebi<br />

ukeTesi menejerebi arian, vidre qarTveli saxelmwifo menejerebi.<br />

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– <strong>da</strong> mxolod es aCvena?<br />

– es formaluri mxarea. garigebebis Sesaxeb Woraobas ver <strong>da</strong>viwyeb,<br />

radgan ar vflob <strong>da</strong><strong>da</strong>sturebul <strong>info</strong>rmacias, romeli konkretuli<br />

sajaro moxelis interesi <strong>da</strong>kmayofil<strong>da</strong>, magram faqtia, rom<br />

saxelmwifo qonebis amgvarad gasxvisebas ar SeiZleba, ewodebodes<br />

privatizacia. rac Seexeba „Telass“: aq ufro rTuli situaciaa, radgan<br />

Tavis droze „Telasi“ amerikulma kerZo kompaniam iyi<strong>da</strong>, anu maSin<br />

marTlac mox<strong>da</strong> privatizacia, magram Semdeg, rodesac amerikuli „ei-iesi“<br />

ara mxolod saqarTveloSi gakotr<strong>da</strong>, misgan „ei-i-es<br />

Telasis“ aqtivebi rusulma „rao esma“ SeiZina.<br />

– Sesabamisad, savsebiT realuria, rom „saqarTvelos rkinigzac“ <strong>da</strong><br />

foTis portic sxva saxelmwifo kapitalis xelSi aRmoCndes?<br />

– laparakia maT privatizaciaze an grZelvadiani ijariT ga<strong>da</strong>cemaze.<br />

Cemi azriT, rkinigzisa <strong>da</strong> foTis portis, Tun<strong>da</strong>c, marTvis uflebiT<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>cema didi Secdomaa. dRes saqarTvelos Camouyalib<strong>da</strong> Zalian<br />

mniSvnelovani saerTaSoriso ekonomikuri funqcia: es aris satranzito<br />

derefani, satranzito derefnis warmatebiT funqcionirebisTvis ki,<br />

gar<strong>da</strong> milsadenebisa, aucilebelia rkinigza <strong>da</strong>, ra Tqma un<strong>da</strong>, Cveni<br />

portebi. nu <strong>da</strong>gvaviwydeba, rom somxeTSi rkinigzas ruseTi<br />

akontrolebs, anu somxeTs sakuTari rkinigza aRar gaaCnia. amdenad,<br />

vin aris yvelaze metad <strong>da</strong>interesebuli, rom saqarTvelos ar hqondes<br />

satransporto derefani?! rusebi, ra Tqma un<strong>da</strong>, arc ise sulelebi<br />

arian, rom Riad Semovidnen. maT SeiZleba, mesame qveyanaSi <strong>da</strong>afuZnon<br />

firma <strong>da</strong> Tavi<strong>da</strong>n verc mixvde, ra firmaa; SesaZloa, marTlac viRac<br />

ucxoelma iyidos es obieqtebi, magram gavixsenoT „ei-i-esis“ SemTxveva,<br />

is gakotr<strong>da</strong> <strong>da</strong> Tavisi aqtivebi mihyi<strong>da</strong> ruseTs. faqtia, rom dRes<br />

rkinigzisa Tu foTis portis, Tun<strong>da</strong>c, marTvis uflebiT ga<strong>da</strong>cemiT<br />

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<strong>da</strong>interesebulia ruseTi <strong>da</strong> amitom maTi saprivatizaciod gamotana<br />

xelisuflebis mxri<strong>da</strong>n bevrad metia, vidre ubralod Secdoma.<br />

nino mdivani<br />

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