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#33 (162), 24.08-30.08, 2011 w.<br />
sakiTxi ufro zeda eSeloneb-<br />
Si gadawyda, an mxolod gaaxmovana<br />
is. aravin ar daobs imaze,<br />
rom axalgazrdebma, ucxo<br />
enebi, Tundac ramodenime<br />
icodnen, magram rogor da ra<br />
droiT es fsiqologebma unda<br />
gansazRvron, es saqme politikosebis<br />
gadasawyveti ar aris.<br />
me mivesalmebi inglisuri<br />
enis gaZlierebul swavlebas,<br />
magram rogor, es gadasawyvetia,<br />
magram Tu es axali kanoni<br />
inglisuris Sesaxeb saxelmwifo<br />
enad gamocxadebis<br />
safexuria da amas emsaxureba,<br />
me amas vaprotesteb. es miuRebelia.<br />
sabWoTa periodSi rusuli<br />
arasodes ar yofila<br />
sxva romelime respublikaSi<br />
saxelmwifo ena, is iyo erovnebaTaSoriso<br />
urTierTobis<br />
ena, maS, ratom unda iyos inglisuri<br />
Cveni saxelmwifo ena?<br />
es, cxadia Cveni xalxis vneba-<br />
TaRelvas gamoiwvevs. ratom<br />
aviwydebaT 1978 weli, rodesac<br />
mTelma erma qarTuli ena<br />
dacva? xom SeiZleba es ganmeordes?<br />
enasTan brZola es<br />
ugunurebaa.<br />
isic minda davamato, rom<br />
nuravin ifiqrebs imas, rom<br />
Tundac es sakiTxi globalizaciis<br />
Sedegia. ubralod xdeba<br />
martivad _ viRaca viRacas<br />
Tavs awonebs da meti araferi!<br />
germaniaSi, safrangeTSi vinme<br />
inglisurad laparakobs? marto<br />
saqarTvelos axveven Tavs<br />
am kanons? es xom dauSvebelia!<br />
am TemiT qulebs agroveben da<br />
meti araferi. am ubedurebis<br />
saTave swored saqarTveloSia.<br />
vimeoreb, yvela ena unda viswavloT,<br />
magram gvaxsovdes, es<br />
saqarTveloa! qarTul enas arcerTma<br />
enam ar unda gadaaswros.<br />
erT magaliTsac mogiyvanT,<br />
didi politikosi angela merkeli<br />
ambobs, rom Cven ar moviTxovT<br />
rom sxva sarwmunoebis<br />
adamianebma miiRon qristianoba,<br />
magram Cven vambobT imas,<br />
rom germania-qristianuli qveyanaa.<br />
amiT yvelaferia naTqvami.<br />
msoflio globalizacia<br />
ekonomikur TanamSromlobas<br />
da erTian ekonomikur sistemas<br />
gulisxmobs, magram erovnulobas<br />
is ar exeba.<br />
yvela ers aqvs ufleba<br />
Cvens qveyanaSi ganviTardes iswavlos,<br />
icxovros magram yvelas<br />
axsovdes rom es saqarTveloa!<br />
eTer kasreliSvili<br />
<strong>saerTo</strong> gazeTi<br />
`kompromatebia is berketi, riTac<br />
xelisufleba sapatriarqosa da<br />
mRvdelTmTavrebze zemoqmedebs~<br />
vveessaauubbrreebbiiTT mmaarrTTllmmaaddiiddeebbeell<br />
mmSSoobbeellTTaa kkaavvSSiirriiss<br />
TTaavvmmjjddoommaarreess,, bbaattoonn<br />
avTandil ungiaZes..<br />
_ eklesias lomis wili miuZRvis<br />
imaSi, rom dRes qarTveli<br />
eri, rogorc aseTi arsebobs.<br />
maTlmadideblurma eklesiam<br />
qartexilebi gamoatara<br />
ers da mogviyvana aqamde. es<br />
madloba RmerTs, aisaxa konkordatSi<br />
saxelmwifosa da eklesias<br />
Soris. anu marTlmadideblur<br />
religias gansakuTrebuli<br />
roli aqvs miniWebuli. es<br />
xerxemalia qarTuli saxelmwifosi,<br />
am xerxemals ebrZvian<br />
qveynis mtrebi da maT mier daqiravebulni<br />
Cveni xelisufalni.<br />
sxva konfesiebisadmi religiur-iuridiuli<br />
statusis miniWebasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT mosazrebebi<br />
da dava didi xania arsebobs.<br />
2003 wels iyo faruli<br />
mcdeloba konkordati gaformebuliyo<br />
vatikanTan. es farTo<br />
sazogadoebisTvis dafaruli<br />
aara. protesti gamovxateT<br />
Cven, eklesiis mrevlma da Sedegic<br />
miviReT, CaiSala. (aqve mogaxsenebT,<br />
rom konkordati<br />
aris SeTanxmeba saxelmwifosa<br />
da qveyanaSi dominantur eklesias<br />
Soris da eklesias eniWeba<br />
privilegirebuli uflebebi).<br />
ratom unda miRebuliyo amgvari<br />
kanoni saqarTveloSi, ar<br />
mesmis. aq xom religiur niadagze<br />
SuRli da devna arasodes<br />
yofila. saqarTvelo erTaderTi<br />
qveyanaa, sadac ar yofila antisemitizmi.<br />
magram, rodesac<br />
sxvadasxva religiuri jgufebi<br />
iwyeben aqtiur zemoqmedebas sazogadoebaze,<br />
ewevian propagandas,<br />
prozeritul saqmianobas,<br />
iwyeben ukanono mSeneblobas,<br />
maSin Cven viwyebT moqmedebas.<br />
meCeTis Seneba rom<br />
daiwyes, davadeqiT Tavze<br />
da movTxoveT nebarTva,<br />
sabuTi, ris safuZvelze<br />
akeTebdnen amas. ar hqondaT<br />
da SevaCerebineT. axla<br />
es yvelaferi gar-<br />
Tuldeba. amgvari ukanono<br />
mSebeblobebi gansakuTrebiT<br />
sazRvrispira<br />
raionebSi mimdinareobs.<br />
anu, aSkaraa religiuri<br />
eqspansia, rac iwyeba<br />
sazRvrebis CamoWrisTvis,<br />
safrTxe realuria.<br />
ukve mTeli msoflio laparakobs<br />
musulmanur safrTxeze.<br />
ukve iqamde mivida saqme, rom<br />
norvegielma moqalaqem teroristuli<br />
aqti moawyo qveyanaSi.<br />
me ar vambob, rom es kargia,<br />
magram faqtia, rom saqme rTuladaa,<br />
ukve didi xania arsebobs<br />
didi xalifatis aSenebis<br />
idea. am xalifatSi igulisxmeba<br />
teritoria espaneTidan Cine-<br />
Tamde da masSi saqarTveloc<br />
Sedis.<br />
CvenTan ki Sendeba somxuri<br />
eklesiebi samcxe-javaxeTSi, me-<br />
CeTebi aWaraSi da aris imisi<br />
saSiSroeba, rom dakarguli teritoriebi<br />
ki ar davibrunoT,<br />
piriqiT, iqiT mivayoloT sxvebic.<br />
rac dagvrCa, imis SenarCunebazea<br />
laparaki.<br />
_ Tqven axseneT sinodis kreba.<br />
am krebis daskvnac miuRebeli<br />
da moulodneli aRmoCnda sazogadoebisTvis.<br />
ratom moxda ase?<br />
_ Cemi azri gaxlavT aseTi:<br />
ra Tqma unda, iyo zewola da<br />
ra Tqma unda, xelisuflebas<br />
sinodSi hyavs Tavisi dasayrdeni<br />
Zala.<br />
eqvs qveyanaSi saqarTvelos xelisuflebis<br />
winaaRmdeg aqciebi gaimarTeba<br />
saerTaSoriso arasamTavrobo organizacia ”qarTveli emigrantebi”<br />
axlo momavalSi evropis 6 qveyanaSi _ TurqeTSi, saberZneTSi,<br />
safrangeTSi, italiaSi, espaneTsa da poloneTSi gamarTaven saprotesto<br />
aqciebs.<br />
rogorc `medianiuss~ axalgazrduli moZraoba ”iverielebidan”<br />
acnobes, gamosvlebis mizania, msoflio Tanamegobrobas acnobon, `Tu<br />
ra Caidina 26 maiss saxalxo krebis mier organizebul aqciaze dRevandelma<br />
avtoritarulma reJimma.<br />
saqarTveloSi am aqciebs mxardaWeras ucxadeben, axalgazduli<br />
organizacia ”iverielebi” da aseve moZraoba `TeTrebis~ axlgazrduli frTa, romlebic paralelur<br />
reJimSi aqciebs gamarTven emigrantebis da evropuli arasamTavroboebis mxardasaWerad.<br />
rogorc gamosvlebis organizatorebi acxadeben, isini aqciebis TariRs ar asaxeleben Segnebulad<br />
imis gamo, rom emigrantebze ar moxdes zewola qarTuli saelCos da sakonsulos mxridan.<br />
gegmebs detalurad am dReebSi dagegmil brifingze gaaxmaureben.<br />
`medianiusi~<br />
me vfiqrob, rom mTavari<br />
gaxlavT eklesiaSi arsebuli<br />
problemebi da am problemebs<br />
mogvareba sWirdeba. aris rigi<br />
ierarqiebisa, romlebic xelisuflebis<br />
miTiTebiT moqmedeben,<br />
arian aseve gulwrfelebi, romlebic<br />
TavianT pozicias principulad<br />
ver icaven. TavisTavad<br />
Cndeba kiTxva: ra aris xelisuflebis<br />
mTavari berketi,<br />
romliTac is moqmedebs ierarqebze?<br />
pirveli es aris kompromatebi,<br />
meore is kriminaluri<br />
saqmeebi rac zogierTs Cadenili<br />
aqvs mRvdelTmTavrobis periodSi<br />
da es cnobili saqmeebi<br />
droebiT daxuruli devs ujrebSi.<br />
Tavs Sevikaveb konkretuli<br />
pirovnebebisa da gvarebis<br />
dasaxelebisgan, magram<br />
samwuxarod eklesiaSi<br />
arian mRvdelTm-<br />
Tavrebi, romelTa<br />
`saqmeebi~ sazogadoebiTvis<br />
kargadaa cnobili.<br />
aris seqsualuri<br />
Zaladobis faqtebi<br />
monazvnebze, mrevlze,<br />
arian narkomanebi, mamaTmavlebi...<br />
es yvela-<br />
feri cnobilia CvenTvis<br />
da ra Tqma unda,<br />
garkveuli samsaxurebisaTvisac.<br />
rogori<br />
sanaxavia, warbebgaqnili<br />
cnobili mamaTmavali<br />
rom Cans xSirad<br />
kadrebSi patriarqis<br />
gverdiT.<br />
sazogadoebis aRSfoTeba samarTliania,<br />
radgan axla misi<br />
erTaderTi imedi aris eklesia,<br />
man ki imedi gaucrua, amitom daiwyo<br />
mizezebis Zebna, Tu ratom<br />
xdeba es da gazeTebic aWrelda<br />
Sesabamisi TemebiT. vTvli, rom<br />
saWiroa meti akademiuroba, magram<br />
reaqcia bunebrivi gaxlavT.<br />
Cvenma organizaciam mimarTa sinods<br />
ramodenime mimarTviT, Tumca<br />
xsenebuli problemebi gamo-<br />
vida eklesiis farglebidan. Cveni<br />
erTobisa da sazogadoebis saxeliT<br />
viTxovT, eklesiaSi moxdes<br />
ganwmenda.<br />
_ patriarqmac xom unda<br />
Tqvas Tavisi sityva, mimarTeT<br />
mas?<br />
_ diax. Cveni erT-erTi mowodeba<br />
aris da iqneba: `uwmindeso,<br />
ganwminde eklesia!~ Tavis<br />
droze ruis-urbnisis krebac eklesiis<br />
ganwmendisTvis iyo mowveuli.<br />
mematiane ambobs: `imdenad<br />
gamravlda urjuloeba da uzneoba,<br />
RmerTma, xalxs rom eWvi<br />
ar Separvoda mis mrisxanebaSi,<br />
aRdgoma dRes SeZra miwa da Camoaqcia<br />
eklesia, romelmac xalxi<br />
moiyola~. RvTis risxvaa is,<br />
rac dRes saqarTveloSi xdeba.<br />
eklesiaSi momravlda uzneoba,<br />
iyeneben korumpirebul mRvdel-<br />
TmTavrebs. `kacma Wiri mala,<br />
magram Wirma Tavi ar damalao~.<br />
rodemde unda vmaloT es ubedureba.<br />
uwmindess albaT didi siyvarulis<br />
grZnoba aqvs, ifarebs,<br />
Seundobs yvelas, magram yvelafers<br />
sazRvari aqvs. xalxmac unda<br />
iaqtiuros. me vlaparakob<br />
morwmuneebze da ara im marTlmadideblebze,<br />
romlebic mxolod<br />
monaTlulni arian da eklesiaSi<br />
erTxel an orjer Tu<br />
Sevlen wlis ganmavlobaSi. movuwodebT<br />
mrevls, rom valdebulebi<br />
varT davicvaT eklesia. misi<br />
swavleba, zneoba. samwuxarod,<br />
saxelmwifoSi papizmis sulis<br />
niSnebi Cans. romis eklesiaSi<br />
aRorebulia, rom papi aris<br />
RmerTi. saxarebis swavlebis mixedviT<br />
ki Seumcdari aravinaa,<br />
msoflio saeklesio krebebi ar<br />
aris Seumcdari. magaliTad meSvide<br />
msoflio kreba istoriaSi<br />
avazakTa krebadaa Seracxuli.<br />
mrevli araa is, ormo, rasac<br />
CasZaxeb, is amogZaxos. saxareba<br />
gvafrTxilebs ifxizleTo.<br />
ixile `<strong>saerTo</strong> <strong>gazeTi~</strong><br />
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afarebs Tavs, magram Tu<br />
iqac igive daxvda, sasowarkve-<br />
TilebaSi vardeba. magram ar unda<br />
CavardeT sasowarkveTileba-<br />
Si, unda ibrZoloT, moiTxovoT<br />
da moviTxovT kidec eklesia<br />
ganiwmindos. madloba RmerTs,<br />
sinodze erT-erT punqtad iyo,<br />
is, rom Sedges komisia, romelmac<br />
es sakiTxi unda ganixilos.<br />
vimedovnebT es komisia araformalurad,<br />
aramed arsebiTad Seasrulebs<br />
Tavis movaleobas. Tu<br />
es ar moxda, yovelTvis eqneba<br />
xelisuflebas zemoqmedebis sa-<br />
Sualeba, kompromatebia mTavari<br />
berketi, riTac xelisufleba<br />
zemoqmedebs mRvdelTmTavrebze.<br />
Tamuna qadagiZe<br />
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