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IKIGANIRO<br />

Prof. Bamenya: Dr., wabaye<br />

amahoro ko ntaheruka no kumva<br />

telephone, nizeye ko utahuye na za<br />

grenade.<br />

Dr. Hishamunda: Profeseur<br />

ndaho by’iki gihe; wowe se wabaye<br />

amahoro si naguterefonnye bitewe<br />

nuko aho ntuye hegeranye na ha<br />

hantu baherutse gutera grenade.<br />

Naratashye nsanga polisi ihagaze<br />

iwanjye ku muryango banyaka<br />

telephone kubera impamvu<br />

z’umutekano, ni akumiro.<br />

Prof. Bamenya : Dr., sigaho<br />

kunsetsa urashaka kuvuga ko<br />

“Black berry” yawe ifitanye isano<br />

na grenade.<br />

Dr. Hishamunda: Oya ibyo<br />

byakorwa igihe gito kubera<br />

impamvu z’umutekano batekereza<br />

ga ko hari ushobora kuvugana<br />

n’abatera za grenade kandi njyewe<br />

ndabyumva gusa icyo ntari numva<br />

kugeza uyu munsi ni uko nabahaye<br />

“blacy berry” bakansubiza<br />

karasharamye” icyakora bari<br />

bacanganyikiwe nshobora kubaha<br />

imbabazi nubwo batazinsabye. Iyo<br />

karasharamye nayo narayibashubije<br />

ubu nta telephoni mfite.<br />

Prof. Bamenya: uracyari umutesi,<br />

koko nta mbabazi bashobora<br />

kugusaba, wiyibagije ko kubona<br />

cash niyo amaraso yaba ari<br />

kumeneka ari ihame rya mafiya.<br />

Dr. Hishamunda: Icyakora aho<br />

nabereye mbonye ikintu gitera<br />

ubwoba Mafiya ni “grenade nta<br />

kindi ndibaza umunsi bariya basore<br />

bazakoresha za mashinigane uko<br />

bizagenda ni hatari kabisa!<br />

Prof. Bamenya: Uretse n’ibyo<br />

by’ubwoba hari ikindi natangiye<br />

kubona cyantangaje; uzi ko bamwe<br />

muri bo batangiye kugaragaza<br />

ibimenyetso by’uburwayi bw’imitsi<br />

n’umugongo!<br />

Dr. Hishamunda: Prof., se kandi<br />

ko wongeye kuzimiza noneho turi<br />

buhurire he? Ndavuga iby’ubwoba<br />

nawe ukazana iby’uburwayi<br />

bw’imitsi n’mugongo.<br />

Prof. Bamenya: Nyamara<br />

nubwo useka bifite aho bihuriye.<br />

Iby’ubwoba turi bubigarukeho<br />

ariko iby’imitsi n’umugongo<br />

ndakeka ko byaba biterwa no<br />

UMUSESO No <strong>399</strong>, <strong>15</strong> - 22 Werurwe 2010<br />

Urup. 13<br />

Kagame ati “mu Rwanda kudeta ntishoboka” Irashoboka!<br />

Ntabwo ndi Habyarimana –u Rwanda si Niger<br />

kubura imyifato mu migendere<br />

yabo.<br />

Dr. Hishamunda: Prof., gerageza<br />

unsobanurire neza n<strong>du</strong>mva iki<br />

kiganiro gishobora kuza kugera<br />

kure.<br />

Prof. Bamenya: Kubura imyifato<br />

nshaka kuvuga, ni uko bamwe<br />

batangiye kuyoberwa niba<br />

bazakomeza kugenda bemye nkuko<br />

bari babisanganywe cyangwa se<br />

niba bagomba kugenda bunamye<br />

kandi bananyonyomba. Ikigaragara<br />

ni uko abenshi bahisemo ingendo<br />

iri hagati y’izo zombi ikaba<br />

ishobora kuba ariyo nyirabayazana<br />

yo kubabara imitsi n’umugongo<br />

benshi batangiye gutaka. Sinigeze<br />

niga iby’ubuvuzi ariko sinzi niba<br />

hari uwanyomoza.<br />

Dr. Hishamunda:Ariko se Prof<br />

mbabarira tugaruke ku by’ubwoba<br />

buri han; wowe urabibona ute?<br />

Prof. Bamenya : Ubwoba buri<br />

hano ni bwinshi cyane ariko reka<br />

tugerageze tubucukumbure. Nta<br />

gushidikanya umunyarwanda wese<br />

uri hano ndetse n’umunyamahanga<br />

bose bafite ubwoba kandi<br />

birumvikana ntabwo grenade<br />

zahitana abantu cyangwa ngo<br />

ziturikiye mu gihugu umuntu wese<br />

yizera ga ko kirimo umutekano<br />

ngo habure ubwoba kabone niyo<br />

abantu bahumirizwa na Kagame<br />

ubwe nkuko yavuze ko abantu<br />

bagomba kuryama bagasinzira.<br />

Wasinzira ute abantu barimo<br />

gushwanyaguzwa na grenade,<br />

ubwoba buri hano bufite ishingiro.<br />

Dr. Hishamunda : Ariko rero<br />

Kagame ni umugabo wo kwizerwa<br />

uko yahumurije abanyarwanda<br />

none grenade zacecetse ndetse<br />

yavuze ko nta kudeta ishobora<br />

kuba mu Rwanda; Kagame<br />

yavuzeko atari Habyarimana kandi<br />

ko u Rwanda atari Niger.<br />

Prof. Bamenya: Yebaba weee !!!!<br />

eeee Dr., mbega ibintu biryoshye<br />

gusobanura! Ahuuu !!! Urakoze<br />

cyane wabonye ukuntu Kagame<br />

yarebaga n’amagambo yavuga<br />

kandi azi ko binyura kuri televiziyo<br />

y’igihugu? Guhunga kwa General<br />

Kayumba Nyamwasa byahise<br />

bigaragaza neza Kagame uwo ari<br />

we.<br />

Dr. Hishamunda: Mbere yo<br />

(Ikiganiro cya Dr Hishamunda na Prof Bamenya (Igice cya 5)<br />

Icyo numvise ni uko zahin<strong>du</strong>ye<br />

imiroshyo abasirikare bagafata<br />

ubutegetsi amakuru atari ay’u<br />

Rwanda sinjya nyitaho.<br />

kugaruka kuri Kagame ubwe no<br />

guhunga kwa General Kayumba<br />

Nyamwasa banza umbwire<br />

icyo wavanye mu magambo ya<br />

Kagame.<br />

Prof. Bamenya : Ibyo nakuyemo<br />

ni byinshi cyane ariko icy’ingenzi<br />

ni uko Kagame afite ubwoba<br />

buruta ubw’abanyarwanda bose<br />

bafite ubuteranyije. Ku bantu bafite<br />

n’akantu gato bazi ku bijyanye<br />

na “ Psychologie” amagambo<br />

Kagame yavuze ntabwo ateye<br />

ubwoba ahubwo yo ubwayo ni<br />

ubwoba. Reka nisobanure neza;<br />

kuba Kagame yaravuze ko atari<br />

Habyarimana kandi Kinani amaze<br />

imyaka hafi 16 apfuye, ntabwo<br />

byari mu rwego rwo kumwunamira<br />

uretse ko Gen. yunamiye mugenzi<br />

we nabyo ntacyo byaba bitwaye.<br />

Gusa kuvuga Habyarimana<br />

kandi atarigeze akorwa Kudeta<br />

bigaragaza ko Kagame yibutse<br />

ko babagereranyije nk’impanga,<br />

yibutse uburyo yapfuye abihujemo<br />

no guhunga kwa General Kayumba<br />

Nyamwasa nibyo byatumye<br />

Kagame areba kwa kundi uko<br />

yarebaga. Ntibizibagirana ku<br />

bamubonye kuri televiziyo.<br />

Dr. Hishamunda : Iby’ubwoba<br />

bwa Kagame sinabyumvaga ariko<br />

noneho ndabyumvise, koko uri<br />

mwarimu.<br />

Prof. Bamenya: Nari ngikomeza,<br />

kuvuga ko mu Rwanda hadashobora<br />

kuba kudeta, burya byatewe<br />

nuko Kagame yahise abona ko<br />

bishoboka noneho mu bwonko bwe<br />

hahita hishushanyamo “ NIGER”<br />

! Niyo mpamvu yahise avuga ko<br />

u Rwanda atari Niger! Ubundi se<br />

nyine u Rwanda ni Niger? Biriya<br />

Kagame yari abikuye he? Ubwoba<br />

buragatsindwa yashatse kubuhisha<br />

maze bumwibutsa kudeta yo<br />

muri Niger! Ese ubundi waba<br />

waramenye uko kudeta yo muri<br />

Niger yagenze n’intandaro yabyo<br />

ko ari byo byagufasha kubyumva<br />

neza.<br />

Dr. Hishamunda: Icyo numvise<br />

ni uko zahin<strong>du</strong>ye imiroshyo<br />

abasirikare bagafata ubutegetsi<br />

amakuru atari ay’u Rwanda sinjya<br />

nyitaho.<br />

Prof. Bamenya: Nyamara ukwiye<br />

kujya ukurikira iby’ahandi, none<br />

se amabombe yirirwa aripuka i<br />

“Bagdad” ataniye he na grenade za<br />

“ Nyabugogo” na “ Kimironko”<br />

Dr. Hishamunda: Ok Prof.<br />

ndabikwemereye kuva ubu nzajya<br />

nkurikirana n’ibibera ahandi ariko<br />

winyicisha amatsiko mbwira ibya<br />

kudeta yo muri Niger kuko nayo<br />

ishobora kuba iri mu byatumye<br />

Ese ubundi waba waramenye uko kudeta<br />

yo muri Niger yagenze n’intandaro yabyo<br />

ko ari byo byagufasha kubyumva neza.<br />

Kagame areba kwa kundi.<br />

Prof. Bamenya: Hari ku itariki 18<br />

Gashyantare 2010 mu gihe cya saa<br />

ine za mu gitondo ba ofisiye bake<br />

bo mu gihugu cya Niger bakoreye<br />

inama muri kimwe mu bigo bya<br />

gisirikare kibamo bya bibunda<br />

bya rutura bita ibifaru. Icyo kigo<br />

kiri mu murwa mukuru cyitwa “<br />

compagnie d’appui de Niamey”.<br />

Kuri uwo munsi saa tanu Perezida<br />

wa Niger “MAMADOU TANDJA”<br />

yafunguye inama y’abaminisitiri<br />

nta kibazo afite, bigeze saa saba<br />

ibintu biba bibaye ibindi urufayo<br />

rw’ibisasu binini bitangira<br />

kumvikana, ngayo amadirishya<br />

mu kirere, inzugi hasi, ibirahure<br />

bikwira imishwaro abaminisitiri<br />

bose nk’abasirikare bakubitira inda<br />

hasi icyarimwe, ubundi ngo cwe.<br />

Dr. Hishamunda : Nyamuneka<br />

ntugarukire aho biraryoshye ubwo<br />

Perezida byamugendekeye bite?<br />

Prof. Bamenya: Ubwo nyine<br />

byamaze kudogera Perezida yiruka<br />

amasigamana no mubiro bye ngo<br />

ba! Akubisemo urufunguzo ako<br />

kanya yahise atelefona umugaba<br />

w’ingabo General “ MOUMOUNI<br />

Boureima” ati nyamuneka<br />

nyamuneka gira vuba uhamagaze

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