harold a. katz memoir volume 1 - University of Illinois Springfield
harold a. katz memoir volume 1 - University of Illinois Springfield
harold a. katz memoir volume 1 - University of Illinois Springfield
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Q: Well now, you came to Chicago in 1942 or 1943 to stay, as it were - it turned out that<br />
you stayed. What was life in Chicago like for you at that time? Where did you live?<br />
A: I lived in a co-op in Chicago. This was another very interesting living experience. We<br />
had an old house, it must have had thirty rooms in it, in Hyde Park. It was run on a basis<br />
in which members had to be admitted into the co-op. In addition to paying some huge sum<br />
<strong>of</strong> money like twenty-five dollars a month for room and board, we would have to work in<br />
the co-op. Some cooked, some washed dishes, some cleaned up. There were at that time<br />
several housing co-ops in the general area <strong>of</strong> the <strong>University</strong> <strong>of</strong> Chicago. I lived in the Con-<br />
cord Co-op. It no longer is in existence. But again, it was a living experience for about<br />
a year, living cooperatively with a wide variety <strong>of</strong> students.<br />
Q: What type <strong>of</strong> work did you do?<br />
A: I washed dishes.<br />
Q: Oh, did you?<br />
A: Now and then I mowed the lawn. They didn't have enough courage to let me do the<br />
cooking, but sometimes I would bring my girl friend, Ethel Mae Lewison - now my wife<br />
- to the co-op and she would pitch in and help me with the dishes for about thirty people. I<br />
think that that was a tremendous inducement to marriage, seeing her in this role. In any<br />
event whether she wanted to or not, she did it. She was a good sport about it. We have<br />
been married for over forty years now, and I frequently help with the dishes. She is more<br />
than even!<br />
Q: Now were these mostly students at the <strong>University</strong> <strong>of</strong> Chicago?<br />
A: They were mostly students. One <strong>of</strong> the people there was Carl Christ. I remember Carl<br />
well because he worked in the metallurgy project. All we knew was that he was very secre-<br />
tive about what he did. We sort <strong>of</strong> learned that you just didn't ask him what he did. Later<br />
we discovered that he had been working on the Manhattan Project out <strong>of</strong> which came the<br />
first chain reaction that produced the atomic bomb.<br />
One time during this period I . . . was involved with some friends at the Democratic<br />
national convention being held in Chicago. We were supporting Mr. Henry Wallace for<br />
reelection to the vice-presidency. I knew people who were active in the labor movement and<br />
I sort <strong>of</strong> got into the inner circle <strong>of</strong> the labor movement at the convention. They wanted<br />
to do something dramatic in terms <strong>of</strong> staging a demonstration at the convention for Mr.<br />
Wallace. Somebody wanted to get balloons that would float over the stadium with big Wal-<br />
lace banners. But rubber was a product that was unattainable during that period. So I<br />
spoke to my friend, Carl Christ, and he said, "Well, you know, I wouldn't have any trouble<br />
in getting you a rubber balloon - whatever size you want, just name it." I remember the<br />
fun <strong>of</strong> having Carl smuggle us out a huge balloon that could hardly fit in an automobile,<br />
and Ethel Mae brought it to the convention in a cab, and we launched it in the Chicago<br />
stadium at a very critical time. It didn't get Mr. Wallace renominated, but it did make Time<br />
Magazine, including a picture <strong>of</strong> the balloon hanging over the stadium.<br />
Q: Let's see now, that convention would have been 1944, was it?<br />
A: Yes, that would have been the 1944 convention.<br />
Q: You evidently attended that convention then.<br />
A: Yes. I didn't attend as a delegate, and didn't go on the floor during sessions. But I sat<br />
up in the galleries. We had plenty <strong>of</strong> tickets. There was a rather celebrated episode in<br />
which Mr. Sidney Hillman arranged for labor people to get tickets to the gallery. Mayor