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18 1 A Yes, I would say experience rather than speculation. 2 Q 87 Thank you very much. 3 4 <strong>CHAIRMAN</strong>: Mr. Redmond? 5 6 MR. REDMOND: I have no questions, Chairman. 7 8 MS. DILLON: If I could be allowed, Sir, to say -- 9 10 THE WITNESS WAS RE-EXAMINED AS FOLLOWS BY MISS DILLON: 11 12 Q 88 As I understand it, Mr. McGlynn, Mr. Denis Mahony and Mr. Noel Fox's lands went 13 on public display between September 1991 and the 3rd December 1991 zoned 14 agriculture B and G? 15 A Yes. 16 Q 89 The first change that was proposed to the Fox and Mahony lands was on foot of a 17 motion prepared by the councillors and brought before a meeting of the 28th 18 April 1993? 19 A Yes. 20 Q 90 At that meeting, Mr. Fox's lands were deleted and it was proposed and agreed by 21 the council that Mr. Mahony's lands would be rezoned from agriculture to low 22 density residential? 23 A Yes. 24 Q 91 Once that was passed by the council, that needed change, isn't that right, on 25 the -- 26 A Correct, it was a material change. 27 Q 92 And then it goes on display, Mr. O'Mahony's lands, as an identifiable piece of 28 lands for the first time between the 1st July 1993 and the 4th August 1993? 29 A Yes, part of the second display. 30 Q 93 And it's on display as a change?
19 1 A Correct. 2 Q 94 So if we could have map, I think it's 363, I may not be correct, it may be 364. 3 4 JUDGE FAHERTY: I think it might be 369. 5 6 Q 95 MISS DILLON: Thank you, Judge, 369. So what goes on display so the public can 7 comment on it during the period the 1st July 1993 and the 4th August 1993 in so 8 far as a portion of map 8 is concerned is that map and change 4 is Mr. Mahony's 9 lands. 10 A That's correct. 11 Q 96 Following that public display, there's a second display, the purpose of which 12 was to confirm or reject the earlier proposed zoning? 13 A That's correct. 14 Q 97 And it is to that meeting that the manager reports what representations or 15 objections have been received in the course of that display? 16 A Yes. 17 Q 98 And is that why the words -- page 583 please -- and just looking, it is this, 18 is the record of the minutes of the meeting of the 29th September 1993, Mr. 19 McGlynn, the confirming meeting and the lands are Drumnigh, they are change 4 20 on the map in front of you and the reference to change 4 on the minute of the 21 meeting is to Mr. Mahony's lands and I want to draw your attention to the words 22 2,530 representations objecting to this change. 23 A Yes, that's correct, they would have been received during or arising from the 24 second display. 25 Q 99 Right. And then if one looks at the minute of the meeting that's referred to 26 there in the manager's report, the first thing the manager identifies that 27 these lands were zoned B in the 1983 Development Plan which was then the 28 agriculture designation, is that right? 29 A That's correct, yes. 30 Q 100The 1991 zoning that had been proposed by the manager was B also?
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