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whenever you were insured, all legal avenues available to<br />

you are taken in respect of defending those claims in<br />

a formal process; is that right?<br />

A. Yes, but we have had continuing discussions with<br />

Catholic Church Insurance in terms of particular matters.<br />

My understanding is that they are also re-examining, in the<br />

light of the discussions at the Royal Commission and, in<br />

particular, the case study dealing with the Ellis matter,<br />

and my understanding is that it is on a case-by-case basis<br />

that there is a consideration given to what defence is<br />

appropriate. As I said before, we have always taken the<br />

position that we wanted the matters settled, and settled<br />

quickly and justly, and so - yes.<br />

Q. When you say "settled justly", what do you mean?<br />

A. My understanding is that in the mediation processes,<br />

the settlements, the mediation processes, exactly the same<br />

criteria for determining damages would be used as if they<br />

were in a court of law.<br />

Q. With the exception of punitive damages?<br />

A. Yes, with the exception.<br />

Q. Why has a decision been made not to use, as you say,<br />

exactly the same criteria for determining damages, by not<br />

referring to punitive or exemplary damages?<br />

A. The determination was simply in terms of making the -<br />

handling the mediations in an appropriate way that was - in<br />

the way that we were used to dealing with claims that came<br />

against us.<br />

Q. By which I take it you mean that any loss of income<br />

would be compensated, if it was attributable --<br />

A. There is a calculation made of that, yes.<br />

Q. So your understanding is that the mediations are<br />

conducted in a way that common law claims are generally<br />

conducted?<br />

A. Yes.<br />

Q. However, the Towards Healing matters are conducted<br />

differently?<br />

A. Oh, very much so, because the nature of the process,<br />

if I could use that word for a Towards Healing process, is<br />

that the conversation, the dialogue, that is there is<br />

around the needs of the victim, so there is a dialogue<br />

around that - what would be a - what does the victim need<br />

.1/07/2014 (ACT36) ACT4022 J J CROWE (Ms Furness)<br />

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