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Dr. Michael DiTolla: For those of our readers who haven’t had<br />

the opportunity to see your lecture on dental-practice fraud yet,<br />

can you tell me a little bit about your background and how you<br />

got involved in dental embezzlement investigation?<br />

David Harris: I’ve been investigating dental embezzlement<br />

for about 22 years. Before that I did various things. I was<br />

in the Army for a while; I did investigation for a bank. After<br />

retiring from working for the bank, I was sitting at home<br />

not doing a whole lot when I got a call from a friend of<br />

mine who happened to be a dentist. He said, “I think my<br />

front-desk person is stealing from me, and you’re the only<br />

guy who I can think of to turn to on this.” So I went to his<br />

office that night, we found the fraudulent employee and we<br />

got rid of her. I went back to watching TV and really didn’t<br />

give it another thought.<br />

It was a coincidence when about three weeks later I went to<br />

my own dentist for a hygiene appointment and saw through<br />

the glass of the office door the same person who we had<br />

terminated from the other office three weeks earlier! So I<br />

ran away quickly hoping that she didn’t see me, went to<br />

the nearest pay phone — this story pre-dates me having<br />

a cell phone in my pocket — and phoned the dentist. I<br />

got put through to him on some pretext and I said, “I’m<br />

not coming in for my appointment today, but when I tell<br />

you why you’ll probably forgive me.” I told him about the<br />

time bomb he had sitting at the front desk, and he asked<br />

me what he should do next. Halfway through my second<br />

sentence he hired me. Things have changed a lot since then<br />

in a whole bunch of ways. I was doing this on my own then,<br />

and now I have a decent-sized company that helps me with<br />

investigations, but the basics haven’t changed.<br />

MD: That’s an amazing story. In terms of dentistry, I guess it’s<br />

not that surprising in the sense that in most of our communities,<br />

and even nationally, dentistry is a very tight-knit group where<br />

you know and see a lot of the same people. Even in corporate<br />

dentistry, with the dental product manufacturers, you’ll see<br />

somebody leave one company and then a new CEO gets hired<br />

at another company. It seems like the same people are shifting<br />

slots and moving around. So I guess it’s not shocking that<br />

somebody who gets fired from one dental office job turns up at<br />

another dental office.<br />

DH: It’s what they know. In the case of this particular<br />

woman, it was lucrative because she was getting paid her<br />

official salary and then her, shall we say, “unofficial” salary.<br />

MD: It’s not like when she got fired from the first practice<br />

that there was a scarlet letter put on her forehead to identify<br />

her as an embezzler on any interview she might go on after<br />

that, right?<br />

DH: Thieves are pretty good at doctoring their résumés<br />

enough to hide their backgrounds. One of the most common<br />

lines is simply telling the new employer that they’re still<br />

working at the previous place and saying, “My old employer<br />

doesn’t know I’m leaving, so please don’t call him.”<br />

MD: That’s an interesting line. I get the feeling that we’re going<br />

to hear about some slightly ingenious — albeit evil — things<br />

like that today. I guess these people have figured out how best to<br />

cover their tracks.<br />

DH: Thieves are pretty clever. One of the most interesting<br />

parts of my job is witnessing the sheer creativity that some<br />

of these folks show. I will now have to disappoint your<br />

readers a little bit because our policy in an uncontrolled<br />

forum like this one is not to talk specifics. My recurrent<br />

nightmare is to turn thieves into better thieves. We do talk<br />

about specifics in closed seminars, but in this interview,<br />

I feel a little bit constrained. Some of the stuff we see is<br />

almost spectacular in its ingenuity. You can’t help thinking<br />

“<br />

The serial embezzlers ... cater to what I sometimes call the ‘wet-fingered fantasy’<br />

some dentists have. A fantasy where they get into their office every<br />

morning, do high-quality dentistry on a relatively small number<br />

of patients and then go home, without having to<br />

get dragged into the messiness of<br />

managing their practice.<br />

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