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Lillian Scalzo Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield

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<strong>Lillian</strong> <strong>Scalzo</strong> 11<br />

Q: Oh they were! Wasn't that a private . . .<br />

A: No, it was not a private thing at all. But we gave the [<strong>Springfield</strong>]<br />

Art Association classrooms for them. And we had, actually, the first<br />

pottery classes that were in <strong>Springfield</strong>. We didn't have a kiln, though.<br />

I had a very good teacher from one <strong>of</strong> the public schools who had had<br />

potter with<br />

from Cranbrook but she couldn't teach pottery in<br />

the schools because they didn't have it here. But she was delighted to<br />

come out there, so we got the clay and we decided we'd find someplace in<br />

Chicago to Eire the things. And we had to drive to Chicago with the<br />

pottery and bring it back and forth. Then we found out that the <strong>Springfield</strong><br />

brickyard would fire them for us.<br />

Q: Oh, well that was a little more convenient.<br />

A: It was much better than going back and forth to Chicago. And after a<br />

time we got a very small kiln, and it ws so successful that we talked<br />

the school board into introducing pottery into the school.<br />

Q: Oh, well good. That was great. So most <strong>of</strong> your teachers that you<br />

recruited from town, were they teachers in the public schools?<br />

A: No, they weren't. Now, the one woman who taught etching was Mss<br />

Virginia Brown and she was caretaker at the Lincoln Home. But [she] had<br />

done small etchings for herself and had an etching press, which we needed.<br />

So she was delighted to teach out there. And then the one who taught<br />

lithography, Mr. Bum, said he would buy us a lithograph press and stones<br />

if we would get someone to teach lithography. So a young man that I had<br />

taught at <strong>Springfield</strong> Junior College had been to Chicago and had had a<br />

little bit <strong>of</strong> lithography. So I got him to teach.<br />

Q: So you recruited these people. They were more or less personal<br />

acquaintances.<br />

A: They were personal acquaintances and I always attended the classes<br />

because that way I learned also. (laughs)<br />

Q: Right. So you were a participant in these classes?<br />

A: Oh, yes, yes.<br />

Q: Okay. I think one <strong>of</strong> the articles talked about a class in art appreciation.<br />

Did you teach that at one time?<br />

A: Oh yes. No, I didn't teach it but I always gave it because I found<br />

out that if you talked to people and let them see art that they would<br />

change their opinions about art. See, I was trying to bring them up-to-date.<br />

But you can't bring people up-to-date unless they know something or see<br />

something. So I just gave those on my own.<br />

Q: Oh, 1 see. Did you talk about the history <strong>of</strong> art at all or was it<br />

just a matter <strong>of</strong> . . .

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