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Leland J. Kennedy Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield

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Q: No I don't think it was the first time. No, 1 think it was a change in the amount that<br />

they were to receive.<br />

A: The percentage you mean?<br />

Q: Yes I'm trying to think <strong>of</strong> the percentage it was.<br />

A: It might have been the first time the townships came under it maybe.<br />

Q: Well the first time that they were specifically allocated an amount. Otherwise the counties<br />

were supposed to take care <strong>of</strong> townships in some way as I understand it.<br />

A: Is that what it was? Yes.<br />

Q: As 1 understand it. So do you recall anything about that particular discussion on that<br />

distribution?<br />

A: (pause) Well I recall one thing that Madison County - <strong>of</strong> course this had nothing to<br />

do with the roads, but where they had - it seemed likc that wasn't agreed legislation, but<br />

one time in those years that Madison County needed some money. Now what it was for<br />

- whether it was for general revenue, or whether it was to keep the - at that time they<br />

had the tuberculosis sanitorium, they do have a tax on it yet, I believe. I was always against<br />

passing bond issues without referendum. I was that way on the city council and I'm still<br />

that way. I think you ought to have a referendum. If they're going to raise your taxes,<br />

you ought to get a chance - we had two or three measures on the ballot last Tuesday. And<br />

I voted no on all <strong>of</strong> them, but my wife voted no on one <strong>of</strong> them, and to on the other. So<br />

that's how much influence I've got.<br />

Q: Well. (chuckles)<br />

SESSION 7, TAPE 13, SIDE 2<br />

A: Oh, Tom Butler, he was a manufarturer's agent. And they got the press, the Telegraph,<br />

and Senator Monroe - he wasn't in the assembly at that time, he was out for a while -<br />

and they got the labor organizations and they gave the county the right to issue bonds without<br />

referendum and it wasn't a whole lot, and it was what they called agrcrd lcgislation,<br />

and the governor - I guess Stevenson was governor at that time - he signed it and thcy<br />

got their money, and there wasn't any increase in taxes. They paid it <strong>of</strong>f pretty quick I<br />

believe, if I recall correctly. Now that's been - that's been thirty years ago, l'm sure, in<br />

that area.<br />

Q: Sir, when you went up there did they still have the rolltop desks that had been there<br />

for many many years, or had they changed to the new-type desks when you arrived?<br />

A: Well they've changed to the new types. We might, have had a different type <strong>of</strong> desk. But<br />

they had the roll type. I know the first time I went to see the assembly, 1 remember seeing<br />

those. I've got my old desk. I bought it. Those desks have been changed several<br />

times. (pause) Let me see if I can . . .<br />

Q: They were changed <strong>of</strong> course in 1955, I know, after the election then because they had<br />

t.o put a bunch more in.<br />

A: Yes, that was after reapportionment. That's right. It went from 154, I guess, to<br />

177. But 1 believe there at one time, we had temporary desks when I first went up there. I<br />

think we had temporary desks if that - now I can he in error there, hut you mentioned

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