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Refugees <strong>in</strong> <strong>Central</strong> <strong>and</strong> <strong>Eastern</strong> <strong>Europe</strong><br />

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like for refugees <strong>and</strong> they are usually right. On the other<br />

h<strong>and</strong>, NGOs too often face a lack of self-reflection of their<br />

own work, which is not always qualified; this does not help<br />

to improve the position <strong>and</strong> the image of NGOs. Ideally,<br />

from my po<strong>in</strong>t of view, the state should, <strong>in</strong> cooperation with<br />

NGOs, academic <strong>in</strong>stitutions, <strong>and</strong> other bodies, def<strong>in</strong>e the<br />

goals of <strong>in</strong>tegration policy, the measures for their fulfilment,<br />

<strong>and</strong> create correspond<strong>in</strong>g conditions, rules, <strong>and</strong> control<br />

mechanisms. The role of NGOs is clear: implement<strong>in</strong>g,<br />

consult<strong>in</strong>g, <strong>and</strong> propos<strong>in</strong>g new measures accord<strong>in</strong>g to their<br />

practice <strong>and</strong> so on. I would like to make one more po<strong>in</strong>t<br />

which I consider very important: NGOs should not be<br />

centralised <strong>and</strong> cover a whole spectrum of activities, but<br />

rather be specialised, function more or less regionally, <strong>and</strong><br />

network <strong>in</strong> order to keep their virtually only, but fundamental,<br />

advantage over the state: flexibility, proximity to the life of<br />

their clients, <strong>and</strong> deep knowledge of the environment.<br />

A.S.: With regard to <strong>in</strong>tegration policies towards<br />

migrants <strong>and</strong> recognised refugees <strong>in</strong> the Czech<br />

Republic, do you see some k<strong>in</strong>d of development over<br />

the last few years, <strong>and</strong> if yes, <strong>in</strong> what direction?<br />

V.G.: I have already mentioned the improved Concept of<br />

Integration of Foreigners, which is more concrete; for example<br />

it leaves out vague or even dangerous proclamations of<br />

“support<strong>in</strong>g the foreigners’ communities” <strong>and</strong> so on.<br />

Certa<strong>in</strong> positive development can be observed <strong>in</strong> communication<br />

between the state authorities <strong>and</strong> NGOs, the state's<br />

endowment policy as well as <strong>in</strong> other areas. The persist<strong>in</strong>g<br />

problems are: the position of recognised refugees on the<br />

labour market, their access to rental hous<strong>in</strong>g, the fact that<br />

they often live <strong>in</strong> poverty, <strong>and</strong> the weak socioeconomic<br />

status of long-term resid<strong>in</strong>g foreigners (third country<br />

nationals), which makes them look for illegal or parallel<br />

structures rather than use legal <strong>and</strong> transparent ways. This<br />

dim<strong>in</strong>ishes their potential desire to <strong>in</strong>tegrate, especially<br />

when they decide to stay for a longer time or forever.<br />

A.S.: Let me ask a very practical question now,<br />

can you describe how a successfully <strong>in</strong>tegrated<br />

migrant might look <strong>in</strong> the Czech context? Tak<strong>in</strong>g<br />

<strong>in</strong>to account the huge diversity of migrants, is it<br />

at all possible to come up with a set of features<br />

which would <strong>in</strong>dicate successful <strong>in</strong>tegration?<br />

V.G.: Undoubtedly yes, even though there can be, <strong>and</strong> are,<br />

ongo<strong>in</strong>g debates about what measure of each feature is<br />

sufficient. But as we speak about very idiosyncratic issues,<br />

it is necessary to simplify. My limited <strong>and</strong> very general<br />

def<strong>in</strong>ition would be that a successfully <strong>in</strong>tegrated person<br />

underst<strong>and</strong>s <strong>and</strong> accepts pr<strong>in</strong>ciples of the local system<br />

of values, <strong>and</strong> rules; st<strong>and</strong>s on his or her own feet as an<br />

<strong>in</strong>dependent, orig<strong>in</strong>al <strong>in</strong>dividual <strong>and</strong> is accepted as such<br />

by the receiv<strong>in</strong>g community (or the majority, if you want).<br />

The last po<strong>in</strong>t I want to stress: if we consider <strong>in</strong>tegration<br />

as a two-way process, then we must not forget about it.<br />

There are many examples (e.g. from the State Integration<br />

Programme) when it had not been considered whether the<br />

local community had at least some potential to receive<br />

a refugee as a fellow-citizen. This depends on many factors<br />

such as a function<strong>in</strong>g community life, job opportunities,<br />

<strong>and</strong> others.<br />

A.S.: Many of programs <strong>and</strong> activities of CIC are<br />

focused on support<strong>in</strong>g migrants' <strong>in</strong>tegration <strong>in</strong>to<br />

the Czech labour market, what are the key issues<br />

you deal with <strong>in</strong> this field? What are the most<br />

significant problems?<br />

V.G.: To be brief, there are seven most significant problems.<br />

On the part of migrants, these are 1) language barriers, 2)<br />

troubles with recognis<strong>in</strong>g their qualification <strong>and</strong> 3) often,<br />

a loss of work habits (especially after undergo<strong>in</strong>g the asylum<br />

procedure). On the other side it is: 4) discrim<strong>in</strong>ation, 5)<br />

lack of knowledge of foreigners' rights <strong>and</strong> duties, 6)<br />

adm<strong>in</strong>istrative objections, <strong>and</strong> last, but not least, 7) rampant<br />

habit of the Czech employers to employ foreigners only<br />

illegally without any <strong>in</strong>terest to hire them on the basis of<br />

a regular contract <strong>and</strong> to comply with their obligations as<br />

employers. But this is just a quickly picked out segment<br />

of various k<strong>in</strong>ds of problems...<br />

A.S.: And f<strong>in</strong>ally, the mission statement of the CIC<br />

reads: the key role of the Centre is <strong>in</strong> work<strong>in</strong>g<br />

towards easy <strong>and</strong> mutually reward<strong>in</strong>g relationships<br />

between people from foreign countries, com<strong>in</strong>g<br />

from different cultural backgrounds, <strong>and</strong> people<br />

liv<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> the Czech Republic. This <strong>and</strong> similar<br />

statements appear quite often <strong>in</strong> the language of<br />

Czech non-governmental organisations, could<br />

you specify what exactly you mean by the mutually<br />

reward<strong>in</strong>g relationship? How, <strong>in</strong> concrete terms,<br />

do you see migrants' contribution for Czech society?<br />

V.G.: It may surprise you, but I will not speak about demographic<br />

reasons, cultural enrichment <strong>and</strong> others, but <strong>in</strong> my<br />

op<strong>in</strong>ion somewhat debatable th<strong>in</strong>gs. I consider migration<br />

as a natural phenomenon. I mean, it is not only good or<br />

bad, it is simply natural <strong>and</strong> we must deal with it somehow.<br />

And <strong>in</strong> such terms, it is also a challenge for us: migrants'<br />

contributions will depend on the conditions we provide for<br />

them. The question is whether we know what we want <strong>and</strong><br />

what we need. Right now, it looks like we prefer migrants<br />

work<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> dirty, semi-legal or illegal conditions <strong>and</strong> structures<br />

(mostly ethnically based) rather than migrants work<strong>in</strong>g <strong>and</strong><br />

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