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JW: First, the public sector should<br />

increase its commitment and willingness<br />

to invest in R&D. Were it not<br />

for the investments by the federal<br />

government in the ARPANET [Adhttp://foundationcenter.org/pnd/newsmakers/<br />

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sector. In order for the meeting to<br />

be fruitful it had to be relatively<br />

small — we were at capacity with<br />

38 people in the room, and it turned<br />

out to be highly productive.<br />

I expect that the next set of<br />

meetings will focus on investing in<br />

social enterprises, which we define<br />

as enterprises that produce both<br />

financial and social returns. And<br />

after that — and this is the larger<br />

task — our hope is to take a look at<br />

specific solutions to key problems.<br />

For example, there are disparities in<br />

access to quality education in this<br />

country, and the solutions that have<br />

been proposed to address the problem<br />

include improving the<br />

quality of teaching, funding<br />

targeted interventions<br />

designed to improve high<br />

school graduation rates,<br />

and so on. What we hope<br />

to do is to put together<br />

a group of experts in the<br />

field to identify theories<br />

of change in that area;<br />

identify the key strategies that flow<br />

from those theories; consider the<br />

division of labor among the public,<br />

private, and philanthropic sectors;<br />

explore the possibilities for public<br />

and private partnerships; and come<br />

to a shared view of what the metrics<br />

are for success.<br />

PND: Obviously, one important<br />

thing the government can do in the<br />

realm of social innovation is to be<br />

a significant provider of funds. Are<br />

there other ways that the public<br />

sector can work with nonprofits<br />

and the philanthropic community<br />

to encourage and accelerate social<br />

innovation?<br />

vanced Research Projects Agency<br />

Network], for example, we would<br />

not have the Internet and all of the<br />

efficiencies we’ve gained, in both<br />

the private and not-for-profit sectors,<br />

as a result. There are core investments<br />

in R&D and infrastructure of<br />

all kinds that government can make<br />

that would be of significant value to<br />

the economy as a whole. And in most<br />

cases, what is good for the economy<br />

is good for the nonprofit sector.<br />

Secondly, the task of reviewing<br />

and eliminating, where appropriate,<br />

regulatory or other policy barriers to<br />

giving and innovation is an important<br />

agenda, and one very much worth<br />

pursuing. Some barriers are there for<br />

good reasons and others are not. In<br />

some ways, that kind of review has<br />

the potential to be even more significant<br />

than any social innovation fund.<br />

PND: Some of the challenges we’ve<br />

mentioned — poverty, access to<br />

health care, education reform,<br />

climate change — are huge and, in<br />

most cases, will require decades to<br />

ameliorate. Looking out a few years,<br />

do you see any short-term opportunities<br />

or low-hanging fruit for an Office<br />

of Social Innovation?<br />

JW: We did not discuss low-hanging<br />

fruit, but I think President Obama<br />

was very clear about his priorities in<br />

February in his address to the Joint<br />

Session of Congress. And, by virtue<br />

of setting an agenda, that helps<br />

nonprofits which are in a position to<br />

contribute to solving some of these<br />

problems. I would go so<br />

far as to say that the<br />

process is already under<br />

way in various sectors and<br />

sub-sectors and in various agencies<br />

and organizations.<br />

PND: Are you confident that something<br />

at the federal level will be<br />

created around the idea of social<br />

innovation?<br />

JW: I am confident that social<br />

innovation will occur outside of<br />

government and, in many cases, in<br />

partnership with government. But at<br />

the end of the day it’s up to others<br />

...I am confident that social innovation will<br />

occur outside of government and, in many<br />

cases, in partnership with government....<br />

to decide and shape the context<br />

within which those public-private<br />

partnerships take place. The Aspen<br />

Institute’s Program on <strong>Philanthropy</strong><br />

and Social Innovation will seek to<br />

encourage and enable it whenever<br />

we can, for Aspen’s most fundamental<br />

purpose is to advance the “good<br />

society.” Furthermore, this is central<br />

to the Global <strong>Philanthropy</strong> Forum’s<br />

agenda, which exists to inform,<br />

enable, and enhance the strategic<br />

nature of giving and social investing.<br />

We are part of a much larger community<br />

that shares this purpose,<br />

regardless of sector, discipline, or<br />

political point of view.<br />

PND: Well, thank you for speaking<br />

with us, Jane.<br />

JW: Thank you.<br />

—Mitch Nauffts<br />

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