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listen to lots of conversations and<br />

collect a lot of information about<br />

how people perceive your organization<br />

and your issue. Social media is<br />

a wonderful research tool and a wonderful<br />

tool for connecting with others<br />

who care about your issue or cause.<br />

PND: You spent several years living<br />

and working in developing countries,<br />

including Cambodia and Madagascar.<br />

How did those experiences help<br />

shape your interest in nonprofits and<br />

nonprofit marketing?<br />

KA: Most of my time overseas was<br />

spent as a journalist. My job was to<br />

observe, translate, and communicate<br />

what was going on in the countries<br />

in which I lived and visited. It was<br />

incredibly compelling work. By simply<br />

shining a light on things that are<br />

happening around the world, you<br />

can do a lot to raise awareness and<br />

do some good. But for me, it wasn’t<br />

quite enough to be a witness. I saw<br />

an incredible amount of human need,<br />

and I really wanted to be involved in<br />

helping to find solutions to the poverty,<br />

the disease, and some of the<br />

other problems I saw all around me.<br />

I might add, is getting worse by the<br />

minute — organizations have to<br />

understand where their audiences<br />

are coming from and piggy-back on<br />

the things that are most likely to get<br />

their attention.<br />

Another common mistake nonprofits<br />

make is failing to have a clear, specific<br />

call to action — even something<br />

as simple as displaying a “Donate<br />

Now” button on their web sites or<br />

providing an opportunity for visitors<br />

to the site to sign a petition. We tend<br />

to do a lot of awareness-building in<br />

the nonprofit sector because we think<br />

that if we share information about our<br />

cause, people will automatically act on<br />

it. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that<br />

way, which leaves a huge number of<br />

campaigns struggling to get results.<br />

Once an organization has gotten an<br />

individual to take action, it is essential<br />

that it follows up on that relationship.<br />

One of the major reasons people stop<br />

KA: I see them asking for<br />

money more often and,<br />

unfortunately, not always<br />

in the right ways. Like<br />

everyone else, I’m worried about my<br />

401(k) and whether the stock market<br />

is going to turn around a year from<br />

now, so I’m really subjecting my own<br />

giving to scrutiny. And because practically<br />

every nonprofit on the planet<br />

needs money right now, organizations<br />

need to do a better job than ever<br />

at connecting with their audience,<br />

demonstrating their relevance, and<br />

explaining how they’re different from<br />

other nonprofits that are working on<br />

their issue. They have to be crystal<br />

clear about what they are accomplishing<br />

and why it is important to their<br />

audience. And they have to make it<br />

clear that they are good stewards of<br />

their donors’ money. That’s the kind<br />

of pitch I want to see from nonprofits<br />

in this kind of environment.<br />

…to get someone to buy something,<br />

you need to understand who they are…<br />

PND: What is the biggest mistake<br />

that nonprofits make in terms of<br />

marketing?<br />

KA: The most common mistake I see<br />

is failing to approach outreach, communications,<br />

and fundraising from the<br />

perspective of your target audience.<br />

I call the phenomenon “nonprofit<br />

narcissism.” Organizations want to<br />

talk about themselves — their needs,<br />

all the great work they do, and so<br />

on — but that’s not enough to get an<br />

individual to take action. One of the<br />

downsides of all these new technologies<br />

is that people have lots and lots<br />

of things competing for their attention.<br />

To have any hope of breaking<br />

through the message clutter — which,<br />

giving is because of how they are<br />

treated by the charity they have given<br />

to. If they feel they weren’t thanked<br />

properly, or they feel bombarded by<br />

requests for additional donations, or<br />

they never have a clear understanding<br />

of what their money accomplished,<br />

they will not continue to give.<br />

The other really common mistake<br />

that organizations make is to treat<br />

marketing as an afterthought. Really<br />

good marketing is integral to everything<br />

an organization is and does and<br />

is not something you can just tack<br />

onto the end of a planning session.<br />

PND: With the economy in recession,<br />

how are nonprofits changing the ways<br />

in which they market?<br />

But nonprofit organizations<br />

shouldn’t despair. Nonprofits are able<br />

to offer a better return on investment<br />

than almost anything else right now.<br />

They provide us with wonderful art<br />

and cultural offerings, they feed the<br />

hungry, they make our environment<br />

healthier. Most other things, in contrast,<br />

have a negative return right now<br />

— even T-bills. Nonprofits shouldn’t<br />

forget that. And while a lot of nonprofits<br />

have become risk-averse and<br />

gone back to the bread-and-butter<br />

ask, now is not the time to do that.<br />

Organizations need to stand out from<br />

the crowd right now. The organizations<br />

that can do that are the ones<br />

that will be around in five years.<br />

— Lauren Kelley<br />

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