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HISTORY: The earliest fully delineated charts traced back to 400 B.C. Two distinctions: (1) Omen-based astrology : Interpretation of celestial phenomena as omens of divine will. The readings were not geared for individual persons except possibly the king as the symbol of the kingdom. Omen-based astrology is stellar or universalized (Stonehenge, pyramids aligned to fixed stars, India etc). Usually the rising and setting of fixed stars were employed, indicating general omens for the people and the kingdom as a whole. Many cultures used it—it was not invented. (2) Horoscopic-based astrology: Here we see the presence of the horoskopos or hourmaker (eg., the Ascendant). The hour-maker was a point that define houses. The Ascendant is only one horoskopoi. The Babylonians invented planetary astrology. Until then, it was simply stellar astrology (eg., fixed stars). Usually horoscopic astrology is based on the rising degree of the ecliptic (Ascendant or Lagna). The oldest example of this is about 400 B.C. At this time, the two Zodiacs (Sidereal and Seasonal/tropical) were fairly close to coinciding with about an 8 degree difference, so statements about, say, Aries could apply to both the constellation and the sign. -Assyrians (730-650 B.C.). Babylon and Egypt conquered. -Second Babylonian Empire circa 612 B.C. (Egypt was independent again). -Persia conquered everybody circa 539 B.C. The Egyptians took Babylonian astrology and invented horoscopic astrology. For example, signs were used as houses, aspects used, rulerships. Our western astrology is not Egyptian or Hindu but Mesopotamian. The oldest star lists from the Mesopotamian era has references to Taurus, Orion, Leo, Capricorn and Sagittarius constellations. The 12 sign zodiac as we know it did not appear until the 6 th century B.C. during the period when Babylon was ruled by the culture-friendly Persians (who ruled the Egyptians as well). With this cultural interchange, it is believed Babylonian astronomy entered Egypt. The Hindus took a different path. Prior to Mesopotamian astrology, they did not use the 12 signs or houses. Instead they used 27 signs or Lunar Mansions (and still do). Each sign has a ruler. Each 9 lunar mansions section was a trine (3 x 9 = 27). Eventually the Babylonian/Persian ideas came to India (Persia conquered part of India too) and the 12-fold Zodiac became superimposed on the Indian system, and a synthesis occurred around 6 th century B.C. During the general cultural interchange, the irregular constellation-based framework was replaced by twelve 30 degree divisions of idealized constellations. The Egyptians were the first “modern” age wave of astrologers who ran with the Babylonian astronomy. Later the second major wave or Next Generation were the Hellenistic Greek-era astrologers (they wrote in Greek but many were not actually Greek. Ptolemy was probably an Egyptian Greek living in Egypt). Coptic is a dialect of Egyptian written with Greek characters done in the early Alexandrian and Post-Alexandrian era (late 4 th century B.C. after Alexander conquered the Persian Empire so that the Greek language became the standard). The Empire remained Greek-speaking for a long time, so during this period, the three streams of astrology (Hellenistic, Hindu, Mesopotamian/Persian) would’ve interchanged ideas. After Alexander, an Iranian tribe called the Parthians in 126 B.C reconquered the eastern part of the Persian Empire and cut off the Greek-speaking influences. The Parthians were hostile to Greek culture. Then in the early 3 rd century B.C. a central Persian people overthrew the Parthians and created 28
a 2 nd Persian Empire that cultivated astrology. The last of the Hellenistic Greek astrologers was around the 6 th or 7 th centuries A.D. Hundreds of years later we find the earliest Arabic-era astrologers. That astrology was neither Hellenistic nor Hindu, so it’s probably Persian-based. However, our Western astrology is essentially Arabic-based astrology (third major Stream or Generation). The difference between Eastern (Vedic) astrology and Western (Tropical) astrology is that Western astrology evolves as the ecliptic changes. The constellationbased and season-based astrology coincided around 200 A.D. Presently the ayanamsa or difference of degrees between the static Eastern Fixed system and the Western Movable one is about 23 degrees. The Eastern system made a synthesis with Mesopotamian astrology but then did not evolve. The ancient western astrology texts were virtually wiped out in the burning of the Alexandria Library. So, once again, Mesopotamian astrology appeared to come first into Egypt. Both Hindu and Greek astrology synthesized Egyptian ideas (eg. whole sign twelve fold division). The Greeks ran with the concepts and developed them further. The definite Hindu core (eg., Naksatras) are solely Hindu, but “western” ideas were incorporated during cultural Empire interchanges. The end of the general Hellenistic Greek era was about 500 A.D. In 1453 Constantinople is sacked by the Turks. After that much of the Greek material is translated into the Arabic language. The Greeks are no longer leaders and innovators of astrological traditions. Probably the greatest blow against Western traditional astrology was the advent of orthodox, secularized, pervasive Christianity. The esoteric teachings of ancient astrology were dispensed. Also, another blow to western traditional astrology was the final burning of the Library of Alexandria by the Moslems in the late 600’s or early 700’s (though they later regretted doing that!). So sympathetic an unorthodox Christians translated texts into Aramaic or old Syrian or Persian languages, and then the Arabs took these translations and translated them into Arabic. Ptolemy was translated directly from the Greek to the Arabic. In effect, the Arabs took over Greek traditions in astrology and added Persian techniques, etc (eg., the concept of ORBS to astrological aspects which did not exist in Greek traditions, signs applying and exact to degree). Divisions or houses survived but more attention was placed to DEGREES. Arabs also WEIGHTED or rated the dignities (not equal) so that the most important dignity now was considered the rulership (eg., Mars ruling Aries) followed by exaltation, followed by triplicity rulers, and then Terms, then Faces (decanates). So, in a sense, our western modern astrology is a trimmed down version of Arabic-era astrology. The concept of Goddesses (Greeks and Romans) was abandoned by the Arabs since Islam was a patriarchal system patterned after Mohammed (Islam is a rigorous monotheism). Catholics still has a loose montheism since they accepted the Virgin Mary, but then Reformation/Protestantism came and the importance of the Mary/Feminine principle was thrown out). ******************************************* SECT (whether a nativity is day/night or diurnal/nocturnal) is one of the most important issues from ancient/traditional western astrology which had been lost in modern astrology. The principle is that charts of people born during the day and charts of people born at night should be read differently. In day/diurnal charts, the Sun is above the horizon (somewhere within the 7 th thru the 12 th houses) while in night/nocturnal charts, the Sun is below the horizon (somewhere in the 1 st thru 6 th houses). The planets are then 29
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Bill Wrobel - Male Chart Aspect Set
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