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Meet Ronald Berenbeim - Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics

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<strong>Meet</strong> <strong>Ronald</strong> <strong>Berenbeim</strong> ...continued from page 19<br />

Sentencing Guidelines is that the job is to<br />

promote an ethical culture throughout the<br />

company. Business ethics programs have now<br />

reached a defining moment similar to that<br />

<strong>of</strong> the Total Quality initiatives <strong>of</strong> the early-<br />

<strong>and</strong> mid-1990s. Following that model, will<br />

functional operations such as sales, marketing,<br />

<strong>and</strong> Human Resources eventually have their<br />

own ethics programs Arguably, much <strong>of</strong> this<br />

has already occurred in Finance. It seems<br />

inevitable that it will happen in this way, <strong>and</strong><br />

if <strong>and</strong> when it does, we may be able to subject<br />

ethics programs to more traditional metrics<br />

for program success, such as return on investment,<br />

productivity, etc.<br />

JT: How has the ethics <strong>and</strong> compliance<br />

pr<strong>of</strong>ession itself changed over time<br />

RB: First we need to define what is meant<br />

by the ethics <strong>and</strong> compliance pr<strong>of</strong>ession. Of<br />

course there are practitioners–company ethics<br />

<strong>and</strong> compliance <strong>of</strong>ficers <strong>and</strong> the consultants<br />

that advise them <strong>and</strong> their companies.<br />

Academics <strong>and</strong> even journalists who have<br />

focused on business ethics issues are also<br />

part <strong>of</strong> what I would call the “pr<strong>of</strong>ession.”<br />

There are the various institutes <strong>and</strong> associations<br />

everywhere in the world devoted to the<br />

dissemination <strong>and</strong> exchange <strong>of</strong> information<br />

on business ethics. And finally, there are the<br />

global organizations like the United Nations,<br />

OECD [Organisation for Economic Cooperation<br />

<strong>and</strong> Development], World Bank,<br />

<strong>and</strong> non-governmental organizations such as<br />

Transparency International that have made<br />

significant contributions to addressing business<br />

ethics problems. I have had an opportunity<br />

to work with all <strong>of</strong> these people, <strong>and</strong><br />

perhaps the most important change I have<br />

seen in the last 20 years is that each <strong>of</strong> these<br />

pr<strong>of</strong>essional categories now knows about the<br />

others <strong>and</strong> has an active interest in what they<br />

are doing. In addition, there are now people<br />

like myself who move freely throughout what<br />

I would call the global business ethics community.<br />

To give you just one example <strong>of</strong> how this<br />

fellowship <strong>of</strong> interest works, several months<br />

ago, Lori Tansey Martens, President <strong>of</strong> the<br />

International Business <strong>Ethics</strong> Institute, sent an<br />

e-mail to her friends <strong>and</strong> colleagues (not exactly<br />

a small number <strong>of</strong> people) asking for comments<br />

on the question “Has compliance killed<br />

business ethics” The number <strong>of</strong> responses <strong>and</strong><br />

the variety <strong>of</strong> sources from which they came<br />

was frankly quite surprising, even to me.<br />

By the way, I do not believe that compliance<br />

has killed business ethics <strong>and</strong> that was, I<br />

think, a minority view. A surprising number<br />

<strong>of</strong> corporate practitioners said that it had.<br />

They remembered, as I did, the early days<br />

when they <strong>and</strong> others were shaping <strong>and</strong> defining<br />

this new field. In this regard, it is worth<br />

noting that perhaps the most important thing<br />

about ethics is that it consists in large measure<br />

<strong>of</strong> arguments without end, <strong>and</strong> as long as you<br />

have the level <strong>of</strong> concern <strong>and</strong> emotion about<br />

ethics that Lori’s invitation generated, it is<br />

hard to see how compliance has “killed” it.<br />

JT: Is there value for a chief compliance<br />

<strong>of</strong>ficer (CCO) to benchmark or otherwise<br />

compare his or her program to other organizations<br />

Are there benchmarks you recommend<br />

RB: I don’t favor benchmarking for ethics<br />

programs. <strong>Ethics</strong> programs should emanate<br />

from a company’s history, long-st<strong>and</strong>ing policies<br />

that have stood the test <strong>of</strong> time, <strong>and</strong> its<br />

on-going internal discussions <strong>of</strong> what kind <strong>of</strong><br />

company it wants to be. Once someone from<br />

a household-name company came up to me<br />

at a Conference Board <strong>Ethics</strong> Conference <strong>and</strong><br />

said “our board used your last study to benchmark<br />

our ethics program.” Who wouldn’t<br />

feel flattered by such a remark But I was also<br />

uncomfortable. As he continued, I realized<br />

why. “The board,” he said, “was concerned<br />

that, unlike a majority <strong>of</strong> the programs in<br />

your survey, ours was not established by a<br />

board resolution.” Of course, it wasn’t. The<br />

company had one <strong>of</strong> the oldest <strong>and</strong> most<br />

admired ethics programs in the United States.<br />

It was established by top management, as were<br />

most <strong>of</strong> the early initiatives, at a time when<br />

boards did not greatly concern themselves<br />

with such matters. By all means, read the<br />

benchmarking studies, but focus on what the<br />

participants have to say about what works<br />

<strong>and</strong> what doesn’t, not what percentage <strong>of</strong> the<br />

respondents do this or that.<br />

JT: From your research, what have you<br />

observed on how government actually applies<br />

the criteria for an “effective compliance program”<br />

from the Sentencing Guidelines, the<br />

DOJ memos, or the SEC Seabord Report in<br />

deciding whether to charge or give credit to a<br />

company that’s been prosecuted<br />

RB: I have observed very little, <strong>and</strong> it is<br />

for that reason that The Conference Board<br />

is launching its research group on <strong>Ethics</strong><br />

& <strong>Compliance</strong> Criteria in Government<br />

Enforcement Decisions.<br />

We are going to engage governmental<br />

enforcement authorities (federal, state, regulatory)<br />

in a dialogue with the Research Working<br />

Group member companies regarding the use<br />

<strong>of</strong> ethics <strong>and</strong> compliance criteria in enforcement<br />

decisions. In addition, we will assemble<br />

a database <strong>of</strong> cases, memor<strong>and</strong>a, <strong>and</strong> other<br />

pertinent documents. Our first meeting will<br />

be April 4-5 this year in Washington, DC. As<br />

<strong>of</strong> this writing, nine companies have joined<br />

<strong>and</strong> others have expressed serious interest. The<br />

group will operate for 12-15 months <strong>and</strong> will<br />

hold two additional live <strong>and</strong> three Webcast<br />

meetings, <strong>and</strong> companies are welcome to join<br />

us at any stage to help frame <strong>and</strong> direct the<br />

research.<br />

We are going to look at U.S. sentencing,<br />

charging, <strong>and</strong> federal agency enforcement<br />

decisions <strong>and</strong> engage in a similar process with<br />

respect to state efforts. We will also look at<br />

civil litigation <strong>and</strong> voluntary enforcement<br />

Continued on page 23<br />

April 2007<br />

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<strong>Society</strong> <strong>of</strong> <strong>Corporate</strong> <strong>Compliance</strong> <strong>and</strong> <strong>Ethics</strong> • (888) 277-4977 • www.corporatecompliance.org

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