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D. Lillicrap<br />

DI MICHELE: I am a little concerned about<br />

your last statement about the tissue damage<br />

and inflammation because <strong>no</strong> matter how much<br />

you modify a vec<strong>to</strong>r you still have <strong>to</strong> get this gene<br />

in somehow. I can’t imagine <strong>no</strong>t violating the<br />

body in some slight way <strong>to</strong> produce an inflamma<strong>to</strong>ry<br />

response in order <strong>to</strong> produce cellular<br />

uptake of this gene. I think the important question<br />

is really going <strong>to</strong> be how much tissue damage<br />

and inflammation is <strong>to</strong>o much and I wonder<br />

how we might go about understanding that better<br />

because I think it’s a crucial issue.<br />

LILLICRAP: I don’t think we really k<strong>no</strong>w but I<br />

think we are likely <strong>to</strong> find out during meetings<br />

such as this one where clinicians, immu<strong>no</strong>logists<br />

and others interested in gene delivery exchange<br />

ideas because I think that <strong>no</strong> one group can<br />

answer this complex question. The immu<strong>no</strong>logy<br />

of gene delivery is going <strong>to</strong> be very pertinent <strong>to</strong><br />

individuals in this room and as we follow the<br />

immune <strong>to</strong>lerance pro<strong>to</strong>cols along with evolving<br />

gene therapy I think that the immu<strong>no</strong>logists<br />

will be able <strong>to</strong> help both groups of individuals.<br />

Some of the new vec<strong>to</strong>rs as you are well aware<br />

do <strong>no</strong>t really produce much inflammation and<br />

so I think there is an advantage both in the fact<br />

that this virus doesn’t transduce APCs and<br />

appears <strong>to</strong> be minimally inflamma<strong>to</strong>ry after<br />

delivery. Thus, we’re beginning <strong>to</strong> find vec<strong>to</strong>r systems<br />

which will produce advantages. Who<br />

k<strong>no</strong>ws if <strong>no</strong>n-viral delivery, which should <strong>no</strong>t be<br />

discounted, may be an advantage sometime in<br />

the near future.<br />

DI MICHELE: I would just like <strong>to</strong> say that our<br />

immune <strong>to</strong>lerance studies, as limited as they are,<br />

can help us in identifying <strong>no</strong>t only inflamma<strong>to</strong>ry<br />

events but maybe again if people think about<br />

what we should be measuring in terms of inflamma<strong>to</strong>ry<br />

markers that might help us <strong>to</strong> further<br />

understand this process with respect <strong>to</strong> inhibi<strong>to</strong>r<br />

development.<br />

ALEDORT: Dr: Lillicrap, I think you have given<br />

some balance with regard <strong>to</strong> some of the<br />

issues that we as clinicians are going <strong>to</strong> have <strong>to</strong><br />

face in terms of recruiting people <strong>to</strong> studies. I<br />

think that we have <strong>to</strong> be really cautious in how<br />

therapeutically enthusiastic we should be at this<br />

point in entering people in<strong>to</strong> the study. I think<br />

the death of this young man which has <strong>no</strong>thing<br />

<strong>to</strong> do with hemophilia but which certainly has <strong>to</strong><br />

do with gene therapy is going <strong>to</strong> make recruitment<br />

in<strong>to</strong> studies very different <strong>to</strong> what it was a<br />

week ago. As clinicians we need <strong>to</strong> reconsider<br />

informed consent because it is really a huge<br />

responsibility. We can be very enthusiastic or we<br />

can give some perspective <strong>to</strong> our patients on this<br />

new modality.<br />

LILLICRAP: I agree that getting the balance<br />

here is critical. It’s a time of great opportunity<br />

but we must be careful.<br />

<strong>Haema<strong>to</strong>logica</strong> vol. <strong>85</strong>(<strong>supplement</strong> <strong>to</strong> n. <strong>10</strong>):Oc<strong>to</strong>ber <strong>2000</strong>

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