Cases from private practices - Papimi

ather high CD4 count, over 300, we have applied this device, in order to see what's going on in this
stage. All of these are in CDC stage A2.
So after we obtained a rather good profile in our first patients, we proceeded to carry out viral load
measurements. Results are not yet available, but will be available very shortly, and we are anxiously
waiting for these results. Because if the viral load measurements are compatible with the CD4 count
increases, then we'll go on to treat other patients in less advanced stages of the HIV disease. That's what
I'd like to quote briefly.
Mr. Hillman: Thank you very much Dr. Papadopoulos. Now, could Dr Nick Tsilimigakis and
Panos Pappas talk about the experiment at his private office with AIDS patients.
Dr. Pappas: Okay, Gregg, this is Pappas and Dr Tsilimigakis. I will be an interpreter for Nick.
Dr. Tsilimigakis: Hello, this is Nikos Tsilimigakis. Sorry, but I don’t hear you well
will be by Dr. Pappas.
Translation
Mr. Hillman: Dr. Pappas, why don't you go ahead and describe the protocol, the number of patients
he's treated, his new protocol and details. Go ahead.
Dr. Pappas: Okay, Nick has treated up to 7 cases with AIDS. Of course he has treated numerous other
cancer patients with similar successes.
Mr. Hillman: Can you tell us who Nick Tsilimigakis is.
Dr. Pappas: Nick Tsilimigakis is a private medical doctor who is practicing privately in Athens and
has had a long experience with public hospitals. Recently he has begun practicing on his own. He's been
receiving AIDS patients and cancer patients and mainly terminal ones, that have had no hope of being
cured in any other place. Now, as far as AIDS is concerned, he's using a double method.
The first method is one that resembles the Albert Einstein College method that was
announced in 1991 by Dr. Kaali and later was succeeded by Dr. Saxena. What is he doing He places
needles in particular places and applies pulsed currents. He's doing that for half an hour or so. Now, by
doing this, we don't know exactly what is happening in the blood stream. One assumption is that free
radicals are neutralized by electrolysis, but Nick has developed another diagnostic tool in which he
measures the electrical resistance of the human body between the two hands. And consistently he finds
that the resistance is over 20 kilo ohms, which is measured by applying current at 45 volts. For a normal
person he measures current of about 4 milliamperes at 45 volts.
Usually, AIDS patients find out that their current drops below, around 1 or 2 milliamperes.
Now, by doing this double treatment, the patient's conductivity is found to increase over a one month
period. In doing this treatment Nick also applies the PAP IMI device locally wherever there are
infections and over the lymph node system. And he has spectacular results which normally one would not
expect for low CD4 counts. We have noticed that when the CD4 counts are below 10 then the device has
no response, it does not increase the CD4 count. However, Nick has managed to increase counts that are
even below 10, and there's no question, that anyone that is over 100, their CD4 count will at least double
within two to three weeks or months. The local hospital physicians have been amazed. This is essentially
the protocol -he's treated twice a week for 20 minutes with the PAP IMI device, and just as frequently,
for about half an hour, with invasively pulsed currents, the same kind that
Dr. Saxena is very familiar with.
That's mainly the idea. He's next to me, and probably there are some questions which he will directly
answer if you like.
Mr. Hillman: Was there weight gain in the patients
Dr. Pappas: Yes. Nick said to me that almost as a rule, within one or two weeks, the gain is about 10
to 20 pounds for every AIDS patient. And the clinical picture also improves very, very significantly.
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