Cases from private practices - Papimi

Mr. Hillman: Dr. Savaedra, did you have any experience with AIDS patients there, with the PAP
machine
Dr. Savaedra: No. We don't really treat AIDS patients here.
Mr. Hillman: Did Dr. Del Rio have experience
Dr. Del Rio: No. I don't think so. He's the manager of the clinic and the medical director here and we
treat mostly chronic illnesses and cancer, not AIDS.
Mr. Hillman: One thing I'd like to do right now that we have the doctors on the phone, is have
anybody speak up as to contra-indications for the machine. In other words, any bad experiences or
conditions that the machine should not be used for or safety concerns. Just anybody, let's say Dr.
Zimmerman, for example. Have you run across any contraindications
Dr. Zimmerman: No. I have nothing. No contraindications.
Mr. Hillman: Are there any other contraindications from any of the other doctors
Dr. Charles Wallach: I don't think anyone has mentioned the cardia pacemakers. I don't believe it's
been checked out.
Dr. Pappas: I think that is contraindicated for all pulsed frequency devices. Such devices are
contraindicated for any electronic implants.
Mr. Hillman: The next thing I'd like to cover is new diseases that the machine has been used for. In
other words, maybe I'd like to ask Dr. Zimmerman , have you used the machine for conditions other
than - what have you been using the machine for
Dr. Zimmerman: I'm a general doctor and so do not exclusively have cancer patients. We have had
two very good effects with burnings. One is a girl who had a burn on the front thorax() with hot water at
eighteen months of age. Now the girl is 11 years old. The burn scars were very hard and the skin color
was very red. We treated this girl for three months with microstream and so the skin became a little
softer. Then we started with the PAM IMI device. And after two treatments the girl said she could feel
her bones again, so soft was the tissue. And after the third treatment the sensation, the sensibility of the
skin, which has been gone for 10 years was all okay. This was a very interesting experience.
The second experience with burning was an acute facial burning with oil. It was a burn in
stage 2 with blisters. After two or three treatments, the blisters were gone and there was a new skin under
the blisters. The skin was dry, and there were no scars and also the brown pigmentation present in the
beginning was gone after eight treatments. It was very interesting.
And yesterday and today, this week, I had a patient, 40 years old, with a primary lymphoedema of the
right leg, with a very hard fibrosis. So I only had experience with this patient this week. After treatment,
the fibrosis of the lymphoedema was very soft. So you can see very good effects on the tissue.
Dr. Savaedra: I'd like to know where you placed the probe for the lymphoedema
Dr. Zimmerman: With the primary lymphoedema of the leg, I started with the thymus - six minutes,
six minutes to the lymph nodes ingrinal, and 12 minutes on the fibrosis near the knee.
Dr. Freeman: Although I'm not a veterinarian, we've had some interesting experiences with a disease
called piroplasmosis of horses, which is a protezoant from a VC carvali or a VC equi, either one of those,
that produces clinical symptoms of high temperatures, edema, and fluid in the abdomen and the legs of
the horses.
These horses we've been treating with it are going to be '96 competitors in the Olympics in
Georgia. They show positive tiders. We've been using it, giving them five minute treatments to the areas
which are most symptomatic, and we found that basically the tiders are clearing up and that the horses are
clinically well now. I must admit, we've been giving them some other homeopathic products along with
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