Cases from private practices - Papimi

Dr. Pappas: Dr. Tsilimigakis had similar experiences to Dr.Freeman's.
Mr. Hillman: Dr. Pappas, I think -
Dr. LaViolette: It would be nice with all these cases we've heard, if the data could be shared. For
example, the ulcer cases, the horse treatment, the lymphoedema of the leg, all these things. Is it possible
to be written up as case studies and be shared with PAP Electrodynamics
Mr. Chuck Wallach: Yes, anything that is sent into the LA office to that fax number, we will share
with all of the fax numbers that are on the list that's been faxed to each of you.
Mr. Hillman: Then in the interest of time and expense, I think we'll wrap it up now. And if anybody
has any further comments, please speak now, otherwise, thank you for participating.
Dr. Pappas: Gregg, if we have a few more minutes, I don't know why Dr Zambackos did not come
up, but he wanted to tell his experiences.
Dr. Pappas: I would like to thank Gregg Hillman, with his initiative and generosity we are able to
have this conference and I thank him very much for his contribution, which he's doing without any
particular profit, so to speak….. Thank you.
Mr. Hillman: If everyone wants to hold on we'll see if Dr. Zambackos is coming on.
Rene Ruf Do you have any experience with the doctor in Germany that had the machine,
and what he was using the machine to treat Wasn't there another doctor in Germany
Dr. Ruf: He first had the unit in a clinic especially adapted for cancer treatments and the unit was used
there for pain treatments but in a way that we were not very satisfied. We changed over to another doctor
who is probably closer to the way Dr. Zimmerman is working. And we just have spent one week in
treatments of various diseases in his viral clinic.
Operator: I have Dr. Zambackos on the line.
Mr. Hillman: We're doing the conference call right now with Dr. Pappas.
You wanted to report about your experiences with the machine
Dr. Zambackos: I have a short experience, for six months only. I can tell you about my experience
for this six months. I treated, for these six months, about 12 patients. Among the patients there were two
cancers, two fractures, and another who also had arthritis. I can tell you that my experience is very good
to excellent with the fractures. I would say good for cancer, from clinical experience only. I haven't
verified this with tests, but my clinical experience is very good with cancer. I can't say anymore, because
all of my experience is very short at the moment.
Mr. Hillman: What happened with your experience with the fractures
Dr. Zambackos: First of all, the pain went away immediately after 15 minutes.
There was no pain at all. Secondly the fracture healed in 15 days. And this, I verified with x-rays.
Mr. Hillman: What kind of fractures were these
Dr. Zambackos: One was a fracture of the ankle. The second one was a very different fracture, a
compound fracture of the wrist.
Mr. Hillman: Thank you. If there are no further questions we're going to stop this conference call
now. So thank you and hopefully we'll convene again one time. Bye.
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