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INTERVIEW<br />

to shorten the work week in coming<br />

months. What are the merits<br />

and demerits of this job saving<br />

scheme?<br />

This is the best way forward. Layoffs<br />

do not always work in a companyís<br />

favor. It might seem easy to ask<br />

people to leave but even that has a<br />

short term cost in terms of financial<br />

outgo. Also, often in the process of<br />

layoffs, a certain number of the best<br />

performers tend to depart which is<br />

not desirable. Also, remember bad<br />

times are not going to last forever. So<br />

when the economy begins to pick-up,<br />

we will all need those who left. At<br />

that point to get back the trained<br />

manpower, who had been aligned<br />

with company goals and philosophy<br />

is difficult. <strong>The</strong>re is then a high cost<br />

that we would need to pay for hiring<br />

and training. Job saving schemes, like<br />

what we did at Apollo Tyres, is the<br />

best way forward, wherever possible.<br />

Two countries standout as having<br />

the most developed and systematic<br />

approach: Japan and Germany,<br />

which both provide government<br />

subsidies to companies<br />

who keep on workers even though<br />

thereís little or no work for them<br />

to do. Both have recently extended<br />

their schemes. What is your assessment<br />

of such a tacit support<br />

from government? Do you see<br />

merit in this approach or do you<br />

think this would end up doing<br />

more damage (in the long term)<br />

than the short-term good?<br />

Of course this is good. If governments<br />

can do this, it is favorable for the<br />

workforce. And we have to remember<br />

that both Japan and Germany have<br />

very high quality and efficient companies.<br />

<strong>The</strong>y have trained, high-value<br />

workforces. As long as such systems<br />

do not encourage the unfit and inefficient<br />

to become part of the systems ñ<br />

which both Japan and Germany do ñ<br />

then this is good. However, not all governments<br />

are able to do this. Nor is it<br />

desirable or feasible across the board.<br />

We all need to work with the constraints<br />

and the positives of our own<br />

situations.<br />

Should every other country emulate<br />

these two countriesí practices?<br />

In fact, OECD expects unemployment<br />

in Germany to rise<br />

from its current 8.6% to 11.5% by<br />

the end of 2010 ñ higher than<br />

many of its European neighbors.<br />

Japanís unemployment rate is expected<br />

to rise, although less dramatically,<br />

to above 5.5% next year<br />

from 4% in 2008.<br />

As I have mentioned above, each<br />

governmentís response will be shaped<br />

by two things. One, the crisis and its<br />

potential fallout. And two, governance<br />

policies and needs of the situation.<br />

Given the diverse countries across the<br />

world, there really cannot be a single<br />

formula which everyone can follow.<br />

OECDís chief economist, Klaus<br />

Schmidt-Hebbel argues forcefully<br />

that governments should do more<br />

to retrain workers and overhaul<br />

their labor-market policies to ensure<br />

that once recovery comes,<br />

new jobs are created in sufficient<br />

numbers to swiftly bring the jobless<br />

rate back down again.<br />

I agree. Actually all parties have a role<br />

to play in situations like this ñ the government,<br />

companies, unions, employees<br />

and even the financial or banking<br />

system. How effective the impact will<br />

eventually be is a direct fallout of coordinated<br />

action amongst all these diverse<br />

groups of people and systems,<br />

swiftness of action and proactive play.<br />

Even though it is one of the possible<br />

solutions, it is surely not an easy one to<br />

implement with success.<br />

<strong>The</strong>reís immense political pressure<br />

on authorities to do something<br />

to slow growing joblessness.<br />

For instance, when Jet Airways (in<br />

India) laid off 1900 employees, the<br />

Civil Aviation Minister, Mr. Praful<br />

Patel said that ìministry would<br />

certainly not be very happy with<br />

the approach of Jet Airways.î<br />

Similarly when the French oil<br />

company, Total announced the<br />

closure of two refineries and the<br />

consequent loss of 550 jobs, it attracted<br />

a furious public outcry including<br />

denunciations from two<br />

government ministers. In both the<br />

cases, the companies had to withdraw<br />

their decisions. Do you<br />

think it is right to force the companies<br />

to continue to save jobs even<br />

when they are bleeding from the<br />

downturn bruises?<br />

I agree with your argument, however<br />

in any nation jobs are a very sensitive<br />

issue and needs to be handled with a<br />

lot of sensitivity. I will not be right on<br />

my part to comment on either of these<br />

two cases since I am not familiar with<br />

exactly how they were handled internally,<br />

what was said, how it was undertaken,<br />

what the individual and<br />

community level communication<br />

was, were all the regulatory authorities<br />

and the unions taken into account,<br />

etc., ñ all these play a role. At the end<br />

of the day, two parties need to find<br />

ways to work towards a solution<br />

which minimises the pain across the<br />

board. We have seen across history<br />

that unilateral decisions favoring only<br />

a single party do not have a high shelf<br />

life.<br />

What do you think should be the<br />

greater and broader role of governments<br />

in such situations?<br />

Should they adopt job-preservation-schemes<br />

or should they concentrate<br />

more on job-creationschemes?<br />

As you have seen with the Indian government,<br />

our focus has always been<br />

on job creation. <strong>The</strong>se have come in<br />

many ways, rural schemes, incentives<br />

to industries to move to backward areas,<br />

state incentives to invest in a particular<br />

state of industry, softer loan<br />

agreement and others. For the longer<br />

term this is the way to go. However, at<br />

certain points in time there is merit in<br />

undertaking limited job preservation<br />

schemes also, for a certain period of<br />

time to enable job seekers to find new<br />

avenues. This need not mean that<br />

people get paid to do no work ñ that<br />

really never works since it ends up<br />

impact the longer term work culture<br />

and morale of people. What works is<br />

redeployment. Moving people from<br />

non or low productive areas to higher<br />

impact, high productive areas, sectors,<br />

regions.<br />

However, all said and done, I<br />

would reiterate that none of this is<br />

easy to implement, especially in a government<br />

context where the<br />

governmentís focus should be on good<br />

governance.<br />

SEPTEMBER 2009<br />

70<br />

EFFECTIVE EXECUTIVE

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