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expensive dishes and wines without worrying aboul<br />

what it's costing me.<br />

The other great side of the job is that I can take a<br />

friend with me so it's a good way of catching up<br />

with old friends who I may not have seen for a<br />

while. And everyone loves a free meal in a posh<br />

restaurant so ! rarely have to eat on my own.<br />

The downside? Well, there are several. I often have<br />

to eat a lot when I'm not really hungry. To do my<br />

job properly, I have to try all the courses - you know<br />

starter, mai n course, dessert, and sometimes I don't<br />

feel like eating so much, but I have to do it. I also<br />

have a problem with my weight now - it's very easy<br />

to put on weight when you eat out several times a<br />

week. In fact, most restaurant critics have a weight<br />

problem. Another problem is that if I write a bad<br />

review of a meal! have, it's difficult for me to ever<br />

go to that restaurant again, because the owner of the<br />

restaurant will probably recognize me. Another<br />

disadvantage of the job is that because I do it so<br />

often, eating out has lost a lot of its attraction for<br />

me. When the weekend comes 1 prefer to eat at<br />

home rather than go out for a meal.<br />

5.16 Nearly all fore ign correspondents and war<br />

reporters that I've met are people who were looking<br />

for adventure. They're not the kind of people who<br />

would be happy with a nine-to-five job. They are<br />

people who got into the job precisely because it has<br />

very weird hours and involves going to difficult places.<br />

I mean to some extent the things which are difficult<br />

and potentially dangerous about the job are also the<br />

things that made you \V3nt to do the job in the first<br />

place and the reason why the job is so exciting.<br />

Something else I really like about the job is that I<br />

work as part of a team - you sit down and have<br />

dinner together at the end of the day and talk things<br />

through with other journalists and photographers<br />

and you're talking to people who have experienced<br />

the same things as you, and seen the same things as<br />

you. And that's very important in this kind of work.<br />

One of the problems of the job is seeing a lot of<br />

horrillc things and then going back home to<br />

normality. I remember a few years ago coming back<br />

from a war zone where I had been for a long time<br />

and I'd seen a lot of death and destruction and I<br />

went to a fr iend's wedding in London. It was a<br />

beautiful day, everyone was drinking champagne<br />

and talking about unimportant things, and I wanted<br />

to say, 'Why can't you see that there is something<br />

awful happening in the world?'<br />

Another major worry about my job these days is<br />

the risk of being killed. Journalists used to get killed<br />

by accident, but now there are more and more cases<br />

of journalists being killed simply because they are<br />

journalists, and they are also becoming the target of<br />

kidnappers. Two of my colleagues have been<br />

kidnapped recently and a very good friend of mine<br />

was killed last year.<br />

5.17 Interviewer Nicholas Kenyon was the<br />

director of a festival of concerts called the Proms<br />

for 12 years. How did the Proms start?<br />

Nicholas The promenade concerts started way back<br />

in 1895 when a brilliant impresario wanted to use<br />

a newly-built concert hall in London, the Queen's<br />

Hall, for a series of popular concerts that really<br />

brought dassical music to the widest possible<br />

audience. There were important dassical concerts<br />

during the year, but in the summer people tended<br />

to go away, society life finished and so he had the<br />

brilliant idea of taking away all the seats on the<br />

floor of the hall, where the expensive people<br />

usually sat and letting people come in and stand<br />

there and walk around and have a very informal<br />

experience of concert-going. The name 'Proms' is<br />

an abbreviation of'Promenade concerts' and it<br />

basically means that people are able to walk<br />

around and stand during the music<br />

Interviewer How long do the Proms last?<br />

Nicholas The Proms lasts fo r two months in the<br />

summer, from the middle of July to the middle of<br />

September and during that period there's one<br />

concert every day. Two concerts on many days.<br />

three concerts on some days. So it's a very very<br />

intense period of music-making and people buy<br />

season tickets in order to be able to attend all of<br />

the concerts, whether they do or not, very few<br />

people attend actually all of them, except me, and<br />

they come and they queue during the day in order<br />

to get the best places in the floor of the hall where<br />

they stand.<br />

Interviewer World-class musicians perform at the<br />

Proms for much lower fees than they would<br />

expect to receive. Why do you think that is?<br />

Nicholas I think the Proms has an absolutely<br />

unique atmosphere that's what orchestras and<br />

conductors and performers who come here say.<br />

And so people do want to come and perform.<br />

What you get at the Proms is a wonderful mixture<br />

of total informality and total concentration. So<br />

that although people don't dress up to come to<br />

the Proms, they behave how they want, they<br />

actuaUy absolutely listen to the music and that is a<br />

feature that so many conductors and orchestras<br />

really comment on - the level of concentration is<br />

absolutely amazing.<br />

5.18 Interviewer There must have been many<br />

truly memorable concerts during your time as<br />

director of the Proms - Could you tell us about<br />

one of them?<br />

Nicholas The death of Princess Diana was<br />

particularly difficult because of course she lived<br />

just across the road in Kensington Palace from<br />

where the Proms happened in the Royal Albert<br />

HaU. We changed some programmes to make<br />

them more appropriate. On the day of her funeral,<br />

we put in Faure's Requiem to tbe programme.<br />

Very oddly we had programmed two or three<br />

requiems in that last two weeks of the season and<br />

they fitted very very well. We then lost another<br />

major figure of the musical world, the conductor<br />

Sir Georg Solti who was to have conducted the<br />

Verdi Requiem on the last Friday of the season<br />

and he had been a very good friend of Princess<br />

Diana and indeed had rung me up just after<br />

Diana's death to say that he wanted to dedicate<br />

this Verdi Requiem to her memory. As it turned<br />

out, he died just a week later and so another<br />

conductor, Colin Davies, took over that Verdi<br />

requiem and dedicated it to both of them and it<br />

was a fantastically charged atmosphere in the hall.<br />

I can't remember such an electric occasion as that.<br />

Interviewer I understand there was also another<br />

spooky coincidence in the programme at the time<br />

of Diana's death? Could you tell us about it?<br />

Ni.cholas A wonderful American composer called<br />

John Adams had written an absolutely wonderful<br />

piece which we were going to do on the last night<br />

of the Proms in 1997. Unfortunately, I mean it<br />

could have been called absolutely anything this<br />

piece, it's a whirling abstract piece of fanfare<br />

music. Unfortunately he had called it Short ride in<br />

a fast machine. And so it was perfectly obvious<br />

from the first moment that we had to take that<br />

piece out and change the programme.<br />

Interviewer Are there any embarrassing or amusing<br />

experiences you remember?<br />

Nicholas One of the things that was a real challenge<br />

to the Proms was the arrival of the mobile phone.<br />

because in the beginning people didn't know how<br />

to use them, when to switch them off and the<br />

Albert Hall is a very very big space and mobile<br />

phones would go off in concerts and it co uld be<br />

very embarrassing. Usually, because they were in<br />

the middle of the music, conductors just ignored<br />

them and people got embarrassed and switched<br />

them off. But there was one particular incident<br />

that was just so awful because Stravinsky's The<br />

Rite of Sprillg starts with a very very exposed quiet<br />

bassoon solo and Simon Rattle and the Berlin<br />

Philharmonic making one of their first<br />

appearances together at the Proms had just begun<br />

that piece when a mobile phone went off very<br />

loudly in the stalls and Simon Rattle stopped the<br />

bassoonist and turned round and glared at this<br />

person in the stalls and there was a round of<br />

applause and everything. So anyway, it restarted<br />

and the performance was a spectacular success<br />

and it was wonderful. But this was such an<br />

incident, that he had actually stopped it, that it<br />

became the subject of a lot of media attention and<br />

there were paragraphs in the papers and I had to<br />

go and be interviewed the next day at home for a<br />

Radio 4 programme about mobile phones going<br />

off in concerts, and in the middle of this in terview,<br />

my own phone went off and it's a wonderfully<br />

classic little bit of tape. My embarrassment at the<br />

same thing happening to me.<br />

5.20 Interviewer Have you ever been to a music<br />

festival?<br />

Anne Isle of Wight in the 70s.<br />

Interviewer What was it like?<br />

Anne There were just thousands and thousands of<br />

people just chilling out doing whatever you<br />

wanted to do. And it was just great fun - there<br />

was music, dancing, a great memory actually.<br />

Interviewer Have you ever been to a music festival?<br />

Jordan Yes, we have a rock festival back home in<br />

Ohio that we go to, a lot of my friends and I go to.<br />

Interviewer What's it like?<br />

Jordan I don't know what it's called but it's just like<br />

a whole buncb of alternative music, it's like two<br />

days long and you all go and it's just a fun timeall<br />

outside. There's a ton of people and they're all<br />

usually younger, from like college age usually, and<br />

they have a whole bunch of stages set up, and<br />

there's just ba rs in different places, and yOll can<br />

just go and hang out and listen to some music.<br />

Interviewer Have you ever been to a music festival?<br />

Mike Yes, I went to Glastonbury.<br />

Interviewer What was it like?<br />

Mike Incredibly muddy, but great fun, absolutely so<br />

much fun, I didn't get any sleep at all, it was, so<br />

much fun.<br />

Interviewer Have you ever been to a music festival?<br />

Ray Yes, not for many years. When I was much<br />

younger I went to Bath, Bath music blues festival,<br />

I've been to Reading music festival. I can't<br />

remember which other ones I've been to, but yes,<br />

in the 1970s and early 80s I went to quite a few.<br />

Interviewer What were they like?<br />

Ray From a 57-year-old's point of view? Well, at the<br />

time they were really exciting. I can remember a<br />

long journey down to Bath, sleeping in a field, I<br />

can remember expensive food, waiting up all<br />

night to the see the band that you wanted to see<br />

and then falling asleep. I can remember being<br />

taken back to sleep in somebody's tent then<br />

waking lip and realizing we were in the wrong<br />

tent, and had no idea whose tent we were in the<br />

next morning. I can remember feeling slightly sort<br />

of sick and hungry all the time I was there, but<br />

yeah, it was good, it was exciting.<br />

Interviewer Have you ever been to a music festiva l?<br />

Harley No. Oh, yeah, actually. The Big Chill? Yeah,<br />

we went to the Big Chill.<br />

Interviewer What was it like?<br />

Harley Yeah, it was really good. I went with my dad<br />

and my sister, we went in a camper van. So we<br />

camped and yeah, it was good.<br />

6.5<br />

I was giving a talk to about two hundred people<br />

in a large hotel room in Poland. About halfway<br />

through the talk, I realized that something was<br />

flying around the room. At first I just ignored it,<br />

as I thought it was probably a bird that had come<br />

in through the window, but after a while I noticed<br />

that the women in the audience were following its<br />

movements with their eyes and were not looking<br />

very happy. It was then that I realized that it was a<br />

large bat. The next moment I could see from the<br />

audience's eyes that it was directly above my head.<br />

I'm really frightened of bats, and I just panicked. I<br />

tried to carry on, but I couldn't concentrate and I<br />

kept forgetting what r was going to say. So r<br />

hurried through the last part of the talk and then<br />

as SOOI1 as I fmished, I rushed out of the room. It<br />

was awful, I'U never forget it!

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