Di spatches|FOREIGN AFFAIRSNATOLibyans celebrate after the death of Moammar Gadhafi. "Our Royal Canadian Air Force flew 10 percent of the total strike sorties againstGadhafi's forces," Mr. <strong>Baird</strong> says, "and our Royal Canadian Navy helped enforce the maritime blockade."40“You’ve got to work at that every day.You’ve got to focus on jobs and the economyevery single day.”If there is a pure-principle heart toCanada’s foreign policy, it is the government’s$5 million new “Office of ReligiousFreedom.” Mr. <strong>Baird</strong> met in October withsome 100 people from across the countryto discuss the new office, and will lobbycabinet and the Conservative caucus forthis foreign-affairs initiative.“It’s not <strong>freedom</strong> of religion,” he explains.“It’s <strong>freedom</strong> to practise yourreligion. That’s more expansive than justhaving a Bible in your own home.“I think it’s imperative that the officeoperates in the [foreign affairs] department.It needs to harness the resources ofour missions abroad, our people on theground. Whether it tracks with consularissues, whether it tracks with missionsaround the world, I think it’s really importantto be in the department.”He says he often raises the topic of <strong>freedom</strong>to practise one’s religion when he’sabroad.“I think it’s got to be more than a perfunctoryraising: You check a box ‘I raisedit.’ I think you hammer home how importantthe issue is to the government of Canada,to the people of Canada. Sometimesit’s more warmly received than others [butthat] doesn’t mean you shouldn’t raise it.”On the other hand, he doesn’t “hector”people: “You’ve got to try to be persuasive.At the same time, one person is notgoing to change a country. It takes consistent,coordinated effort.”He says Canada will join other countriesin this effort: Suzan <strong>John</strong>son Cook,U.S. ambassador for international religious<strong>freedom</strong>, “does a great job.” ItalianForeign Minister Franco Frattini “is reallypassionate about this. So we’re not aloneby any stretch.”Will he eventually try to have a religious<strong>freedom</strong> centre established rightat the UN? He smiles: “Let’s get the centreestablished [in Canada]. But we aresmoothing the way. The prime ministerprovided a lot of leadership during the G8Summit in Deauville, France in May 2011.There were two or three references to religious<strong>freedom</strong>.”As strongly as Mr. <strong>Baird</strong> feels on thisissue, he is clear that this is Prime MinisterHarper’s issue. Mr. Harper, besidesmentioning it in the Throne Speech, madeit “part of the election platform. It’s somethinghe believes strongly in,” says Mr.<strong>Baird</strong>, “and something our team and ourparty believe strongly in.”How close are his, Mr. Harper’s and theMr. <strong>Baird</strong> meets with U.S. Secretary of StateHillary Clinton in Washington last year.UN PHOTOcabinet’s views on foreign policy? Foreignpolicy is hammered out in cabinet and indiscussions, he says, and it’s not alwayssmooth agreement. “I think people wouldbe astounded. We have some really gooddebates, really good discussions aroundthe cabinet table. We don’t always agreeon everything.“It’s funny, obviously we’re a team,”he says. “The PM is leader of the team.On foreign policy, the PM and I do share alot — not everything — of the same views.Our views on Israel are remarkably similar.We have good debates, discussions.”And, he says, they’ve had lots of timeto work out their foreign affairs policy. “Itravelled to three G8s with him before Iwas foreign minister. Environment is aneconomic portfolio, a regulatory portfolioand, increasingly, a foreign affairs portfolio.“I’ve travelled extensively with him onforeign policy, on bilaterals with a widevariety of people. Also, as a member of Pand P [the cabinet committee on prioritiesand planning], you obviously considerevery issue, every file.”During cabinet talks, he says, “the PMwelcomes different perspectives. He’s avery good listener. At the same, he bringsvalues to the table — as we all do.”The debate can get very spirited, hesays, because everyone’s set of valuesand principles are complex. “Those whodisagree with [our views] say that they’renarrow ideologies and that they’re rigid.”He chuckles: “People on the left havevalues and principles. People on the righthave rigid ideologies.”His own “rigid ideology” is, he says: “Ibelieve in <strong>freedom</strong>.”WINTER 2012 | JAN-FEB-MAR
FOREIGN AFFAIRS|Di spatchesA JOhn <strong>Baird</strong> compendium“It’s always easier to shut up and go along with the crowd.”“From the Liberals under [Lester] Pearson to the Liberalsunder Jean Chretien, the Liberal Party has had a very distinctview of foreign policy. I think it was very different beforePearson. Prime Minister [Brian] Mulroney was not shy aboutdisagreeing with Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan onsanctions in South Africa. He was very aggressive in fighting forthat. And that’s the [country’s] tradition. [Prime Minister <strong>John</strong>]Diefenbaker did the same in the Commonwealth with apartheid,taking strong principled stands. I think there are more[Canadian] roots in that [kind of foreign policy].”“When we came to office and Stephen Harper was electedPrime Minister, Canada was [world-ranked at] No. 31 on peacekeeping.I think most Canadians thought that our soldiers inAfghanistan were on a peacekeeping mission. They were nevertold, they never understood, that this was not a peacekeepingmission, that the soldiers were not wearing the blue beret.“[In terms of raising the status of the military in Canada]Stephen Harper did a lot of it. Peter MacKay has done a lot of it.Rick Hillier has done a lot of it. Gordon O’Connor has done a lotof it. Walter Natynczyk has done a lot of it. You know, 20 yearsago, Canadian Armed Forces members sometimes didn’t wantto wear their uniforms in public; now when they go into TimHortons, two or three people try to buy them a cup of coffee.The amount of support for the Canadian Forces is significant.“And Canada’s history was not being ‘an honest broker’ onall sides [of an issue]. In the Second World War, we took a strongstand from Day 1. World War I, the same. The First Gulf War, thesame. We stand up for what we believe in and that’s the realhistory of the country.”“Our Royal Canadian Air Force flew 10 percent of the totalstrike sorties against Gadhafi’s forces, and our Royal CanadianNavy helped enforce the maritime blockade. Canada has paidheavily — both in dollar terms and in priceless human toll — tofulfill our UN obligation to support the lawful government ofAfghanistan.”The Keystone XL Pipeline“We were disappointed [with President Barack Obamapostponing his decision until 2013.] I think most observers of thetiming and the decision have come to certain conclusions whichI’ll leave for them [to express].“My approach to dealing with the Americans, with Hillary[Hillary Clinton, U.S. secretary of state] is that when all you talkabout is irritants, [laughs] you quickly become irritating. I wastold that [former Secretary of State] Condoleezza Rice oncedescribed the <strong>agenda</strong> of a meeting with a Canadian foreignminister as very similar to a condo committee board meeting.“So Hillary and I talk about issues that are multilateral,and then we discuss the two issues I’ve been pushing with myAmerican counterparts, which are Beyond the Border [facilitatingtrade] and the Keystone XL.“We’re making good progress on Beyond the Border, whichis very important to the Canadian economy. And we are obviouslyconcerned with the delay [emphasis on the word delay] inKeystone. They’re working hard on the rerouting of it aroundthe aquifer in Nebraska. But Canada can’t be held captive tospecial interests south of the border. We’ve got to diversify ourmarkets. That’s why the [proposed Gateway] pipeline to theWest Coast is so important.”Canada as ‘honest broker’“I want to be the first foreign minister in the world to recognizea newly independent Palestinian state when it negotiatespeace and security [directly] with Israel.“Did these people [who want Canada to be an “honestbroker” in the Middle East] say that Canada lost its status asan honest broker when we went to war early with Hitler’sGermany? We did that early in the Second World War. We didn’ttry to be an honest broker [with] Germany and [our Allies].“What does an honest broker mean? I mean, if you’re lookingat Hezbollah or Hamas, you don’t want to be an honestbroker if they’re international terrorist organizations.“The Palestinian Authority — we have, I think, a constructiverelationship with them. They obviously don’t share an opinionon a major file. Hamas is an international terrorist organizationand has launched thousands of rockets against civilian populationsin a fellow liberal democracy [Israel].”Foreign policy vs. domestic politics“A lot of foreign policy isn’t partisan.“I work very well with Dominic LeBlanc, the Liberal foreignaffairs critic. Paul Dewar [former NDP critic] is a great guy. I’mgetting to know Hélène Laverdière [NDP critic] and I’m off to agood start with her. We worked very well on the Libyan mission,consulting Parliament when I was House Leader for the firstround. And I had good negotiations and discussions with [thenLiberal critic] Bob Rae and Paul Dewar on the second round,and the third one was a fairly civil debate and discussion. Wetried to be more open. On the Libyan mission, we made officialsavailable to fully brief the opposition parties at every step theywanted it. So I think that was a good day for Parliament whenall parties supported it.”UN PHOTOdiplomat and international canada 41